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[Sakura~]

Sakura is gaining a lot of popularity lately. I got over 500 notes of a picture of Sakura in one day. And I don't have that many followers. Interesting.

[abloublou]

 

I've indicated that don't think sasusaku has a chance of remotely being canon, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

 

 

 

I'm not well-educated enough to know anything about philosophy beyond the basics of Confucianism, sorry.

 

In all seriousness, I do think it seems like Hinata will have a big role in the movie. Perhaps not bigger than the main three, but still. Kishimoto could write a love triangle with Naruto in the middle if wanted to - it seems quite possible given the emphasis on love in the tagline.

If Hinata has a big role, it's better about showing her being a competent Hyuuga leader.

 

But well, we all know Kishi loves his unecessary romantic dramu ... Though it's hard for me to see her as a semi believable love rival to Sakura considering Naruto's one track mind. His ever considering Hinata an option sounds OOC.

Edited by abloublou, 14 October 2014 - 02:16 PM.

[Nefertieh]

The competition got narrowed down thats all.Also people keep forgetting that they also gave NS a tease in that promo and keep relying on this tweet which just says Naruto has a scarf,Hinata is looking sideways and the last is the first love.

 

I was criticising some people's over-analysis of Hinata here in an attempt to calm people down.

 

I just can't see the "absence" of sasusaku as a good thing when it seems as clear as day that it is not where the story is heading.

[Princess Iris]

Hey I just realised NH isn't simple


it is like complex mathematics


NH Romance can be denoted as



NH + i Romance
where i=√-1 which is imaginary





so....NH is real part ....while romance is imaginary ONLY

[Syn11]

I'm not well-educated enough to know anything about philosophy beyond the basics of Confucianism, sorry.

 

In all seriousness, I do think it seems like Hinata will have a big role in the movie. Perhaps not bigger than the main three, but still. Kishimoto could write a love triangle with Naruto in the middle if wanted to - it seems quite possible given the emphasis on love in the tagline.

I was talking about Spinoza's "Ethics, demonstrated in geometrical order". The book describes emotional patterns in a "mathematical" way. It's very enlightening.

 

I doubt that Hinata will play a larger role than Kakashi, Sai or Shikamaru. )

[FireFox]

Hey I just realised NH isn't simple


it is like complex mathematics


NH Romance can be denoted as



NH + i Romance
where i=√-1 which is imaginary





so....NH is real part ....while romance is imaginary ONLY

Math hurts my brain connecting that to the romance in here even more    I need a pill now  .

[Nefertieh]

If Hinata has a big role, it's better about showing her being a competent Hyuuga leader.

 

The thing is, the Hyuuga clan has never played a big role in the story, aside from Neji and Hinata's backstory. Hinata has absolutely no interest in being a leader, and it turns out her father isn't as terrible as we thought in the beginning anyway.

 

The Hyuuga clan isn't really a problem in the story at all, I doubt they could cram boring clan politics in a movie about the moon falling.

 

But well, we all know Kishi loves his unecessary romantic dramu ... Though it's hard for me to see her as a semi believable love rival to Sakura considering Naruto's one track mind. His even considering Hinata an option sounds OOC.

 

Love triangles are the main reason why I tend to avoid shoujo in general. You're always never happy with the endgame pairing because you're too busy feeling sorry for the rejected third wheel. I don't think Kishimoto will make a love triangle movie, but that tagline...

[Princess Iris]

Math hurts my brain connecting that to the romance in here even more    I need a pill now  .

neither i love math so much


but this part is what i like the most


here i is an imaginary number (since it doesn't exist)


so for ME, Romance for NH is imaginary

[abloublou]

 

The thing is, the Hyuuga clan has never played a big role in the story, aside from Neji and Hinata's backstory. Hinata has absolutely no interest in being a leader, and it turns out her father isn't as terrible as we thought in the beginning anyway.

 

The Hyuuga clan isn't really a problem in the story at all, I doubt they could cram boring clan politics in a movie about the moon falling.

 

 

Love triangles are the main reason why I tend to avoid shoujo in general. You're always never happy with the endgame pairing because you're too busy feeling sorry for the rejected third wheel. I don't think Kishimoto will make a love triangle movie, but that tagline...

I detest love triangle as well.

[Nefertieh]

I was talking about Spinoza's "Ethics, demonstrated in geometrical order". The book describes emotional patterns in a "mathematical" way. It's very enlightening.

 

I doubt that Hinata will play a larger role than Kakashi, Sai or Shikamaru. )

 

I'm glad to know we finally have a mathematical model for emotions.

 

Hm, Kakashi will probably be Hokage and have one or two important scenes, Sai is the Team-7-member-but-not-really, but Shikamaru will probably have a bigger role than the two.

 

I can't imagine what the shikaino and shikatema fans would say if shikahina became an item. XD

[FireFox]

neither i love math so much


but this part is what i like the most


here i is an imaginary number (since it doesn't exist)


so for ME, Romance for NH is imaginary

Yeah I got that part , at least for me NH was always about comrades like 615 which NH tends to romanticize the hell of it , in fact NH is just an obsessed idolization  on Hinata's part  nothing more its false/ imaginary romance like you put it in with that equation Lol . 

[Swagkura]

I don't even think there's a actual love triangle in this series. NaruSakuHina has Naruto loving Sakura, Sakura growing feelings for Naruto, and Hinata having feelings for Naruto who has no interest in her. NaruSakuSasu has Naruto who still loves Sakura, Sakura who was in love with Sasuke, and Sasuke who could give less of a kitten for Sakura. A normal love triangle would have Naruto & Sasuke both having feelings for Sakura, or have Naruto have feelings for both Sakura and Hinata. Since this isn't the case at all, that means NaruSaku's the only two-sided relationship in the manga out of the big 3, so I really don't see anything to worry about in terms of who will become canon before the movie.

[Silent Storm]

You guys.......

 

I understand. I get it. All the negativity is coming from 693 where Sakura (seemingly) trampled on Naruto's feelings and confessed to Sasuke again in front of him, right? This is all after coming from a battle that was heavily Anti-SasuSaku and Pro-NaruSaku. None of this would be happening had Kishimoto not had Sakura "confess", right?

 

Well regardless of what happened, I am sorry but I cannot accept NaruHina / SasuSaku as a possibility at this late stage because the buildup up to both these pairing CANNOT compare to NaruSaku.

 

Naruto as a character has always had never giving up as part of his nindo. To suggest NaruHina is a possibility would also be suggesting that Kishimoto should betray Naruto's character and have him break his own rules on never giving up. We have had NO REASON to believe Naruto stopped lovng Sakura romantically. Hinata confessing to him means NOTHING when it wasn't even followed up. Excuses such as "well he didn't have time" are stupid because Kishimoto SPECIFICALLY DREW Sakura's hug and both of them spending time together while the village was rebuilt.

 

People overestimate the bond Naruto and Hinata share simply because Hinata LOVES Naruto. Don't try and pretend there is a deep romantic bond between them when Kishimoto didn't bother to develop and strengthen the bond they share past anything romantic. Hinata confessing was part of her development more than it was a NaruHina moment, because the moment had no response to it. Handholding, no response from Naruto's side. This is a fact people like to conveniently ignore. Kishimoto could have easily shifted the manga towards a NaruHina ending by having her by Naruto's side when Minato appeared. Instead he choce Sakura and had Minato make the comparison which ties back to Kushina's story and her final words. He could have easily had Hinata arrive with Naruto to where Minato was for the Kurama transfer and COULD HAVE EASILY MADE HER PERFORM THE CPR. Kishimoto may be many things, but one thing he isn't is inconsistent with characters. Sasuke despite his many flip-flopping goals is still the same Sasuke as part 1. Naruto is still the same Naruto from part 1. Sakura as a character always been about change and she was introduced in chapter 3 as Naruto's love interest. The very same chapter we find out why he even likes her.

 

693 has shaken people's faith in Kishimoto after Sakura screamed her apparent love towards Sasuke and are now buying insane theories like Sasuke suddently discovering he has feelings for Sakura once Naruto brings him back. Now people are expecting Kishimoto to flat out kitten on Naruto's character and have him give up. when Naruto is supposed to represent surpassing his predecessors (Obito and Jiraiya especially when it comes to the hokage and getting the love of his life).

 

Analyse the manga as a whole and pay attention to the interactions and bonds between characters, as well as the commentary from 3rd parties. Now take that and observe the bond between Naruto / Hinata and Sasuke / Sakura.

 

Naruto and Hinata are friends with Hinata having feelings for Naruto. Naruto's initial impression was she was dark and weird but after finding out more about her, her determination is an aspect of her character she likes, which then brings up the "people like you I like". There was no romantic hinting from Naruto at all in this scene...it was him stating he likes people LIKE her who are determined. Hinata loves Naruto, there is no denying that, but Naruto doesn't love Hinata nor has there been any indication from his side that he will stop loving Sakura and suddenly move to Hinata.

 

This all ties back to Kushina's final wishes to Naruto. She specifically tells Naruto not to pick the weird girl / first girl that comes HIS way but to instead seek out a girl more like her. Naruto's initial impression is Hinata is weird. Kushina's character is similar to Sakura in terms of personality and history with insecurity. Minato later makes the comparison. So what pairing is more likely to happen? Again, making excuses for Minato not meeting Hinata is stupid because Kishimoto drew those scenes to make the comparison.

 

Sasuke and Sakura's relationship is at best precious comrades (Part 1) and doesn't extend further. Point me to specific manga panels where Sasuke has ever thought about romance and Sakura as an individual. The entire ship is riddled with indifference, murder attempts and violent genjutsu. If after all this people still say SasuSaku still has an equal chance of happening then I don't know what to tell them. There is nothing positive about SasuSaku and it has been non-existent throughout part 2.

 

I don't get you guys. Look at the manga and see how the relationships have developed, all the moments that have happened. Sakura's has been shown twice to not understand what people are saying when they talk about her feelings and actions towards Naruto. Remember when Sai said she was very tender to Naruto and she was confused? Remember when Obito said when Naruto stumbles, you want to help him and she was confused? Remember Yamato's conveniently interrupted words. We all know what he as going to say, Kishimoto knows as well, but he interrupted it. It there wasn't any romantic undertones there would be no reason to cut it out, right?

 

Honestly I expect better from you guys. SasuSaku just received the beating of it's life these past few chapters. Sasuke, the biggest Anti-SasuSaku fan in the manga killed the pairing for them yet they've never been more hopeful their pairing would be endgame. NaruHina just had their pairing confirmed only within an illusion, with Neji and Hanabi also present. Everyone knows that dream is never gonna happen simply because Neji is there, and Kishimoto wouldn't confirm the endgame pairing like that. Despite all that, NaruHina's faith has never been higher.

 

Meanwhile, NaruSaku has the entirety of part 2 on their side, parallels and foreshadowing and unanswered questions and a confession still due. Sakura's confusion needs to be answered, as does her feelings towards Naruto. My theory is when she wakes up she'll consider the reality of Naruto being killed by Sakura and after nearly losing him before, she won't want to have that happen again.

 

Yeah Kishimoto messed up royally with 693 with his choice of words but don't try and pretend NaruHina / SasuSaku are even on the same level as NaruSaku at this late.

 

Sasuke is Naruto's rival and stands in his way on most of his goals. Naruto has managed to take everything Sasuke had from him except for the title of Hokage and Sakura's affection. It's pretty much guaranteed Naruto will win the battle for Hokage but will fail at gaining Sakura's love, despite all the hints in the manga suggesting that? Terrible

 

tldr; Chill the kitten out. NaruHina would mean betraying Naruto's character, while a SasuSaku ending ould make no sense no matter how much you spin it after what Sasuke did in 693. It's either NaruSaku or nothing if Kishimoto remains consistent. It was always going to be kitten but I don't know what anyone was expecting from a Shonen series. This isn't Shojo.

Edited by Silent Storm, 14 October 2014 - 01:38 PM.

[Gojira]

After that twitter, Naruto's quote ("I got something I absolutely must tell ya... wait for me") and Hinata's waiting position in these posters, I'm not gonna lie... I'm worried!! of course  that there's a possibility that all these things are just teasing and not related at all, but still... there are a possibility of it being a hint for NH in the movie.
 
   I think that after Sakura confessed again in these last chapters we should accept that  NH has a chance to happen from now on.. as much crazy and nonsense as  it sounds .. it does have a chance IMO.

She didnt confess....

[Gojira]

what's with all the panic?

New people are panicking cuz 693

Everyone else is just mildly irritated with Kishi's dumbass writing

[rocci]

@swagkura
That's why it's called one side love triangle. And kishi only recognize the naruto sakura sasuke one side love triangle. Not Hinata naru saku.
Maybe kishi will make hina naru saku happen in the movie or not, we don't know.

What I anticipate is naruto confession.

[Princess Iris]

Yeah I got that part , at least for me NH was always about comrades like 615 which NH tends to romanticize the hell of it , in fact NH is just an obsessed idolization  on Hinata's part  nothing more its false/ imaginary romance like you put it in with that equation Lol . 

plus it is fact that Romance is IT dream of Hinata

[Princess Iris]

Yeah I got that part , at least for me NH was always about comrades like 615 which NH tends to romanticize the hell of it , in fact NH is just an obsessed idolization  on Hinata's part  nothing more its false/ imaginary romance like you put it in with that equation Lol . 

plus it is fact that Romance is IT dream of Hinata

[abloublou]

plus it is fact that Romance is IT dream of Hinata

It's a way to give her closure on her feeling for Naruto. Just like Ino's IT sunk SasuIno and SaiIno, and Kiba's, KibaxHokageood.

[Princess Iris]

It's a way to give her closure on her feeling for Naruto. Just like Ino's IT sunk SasuIno and SaiIno, and Kiba's, KibaxHokageood.

well.
..if IT dreams are impossible illusions, then


the fate of NH is here