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#11141 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:05 PM

It was a special show about Naruto, usually it's a show about video game and those kinf of things, they already did a special show about the james Bond movies like here with Naruto. But it's in France.

So they invited some people who work on the Naruto manga edition in France and on the Naruto Shippuden DVD in France. But when you hear them talk like that you may think they don't even know what they are working on. 

 

@ Darkest: It was only 2 or 3 minutes in an entire show that was 30 minutes long and if a viewer hadn't even ask this question, they wouldn't have talked about it. 

 

But that's not really important since it's not in Japan, 

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:12 PM

 

I just watched a TV Show from last year and I can't help but feel upset.

 

There were some supposed professionals related to the Naruto (not Japanese) and I know that I shouldn’t take them seriously because they seem to not even know their own série. They said something like the rivalry of Naruto and Sasuke come from Sakura because they were both in love with her…. I mean like WTF? Even the SS fans who believe that Sasuke is in love with Sakura know that it’s not the origin of Naruto and Sasuke’s rivalry.

 

But what made me mad was that when viewers were asking questions, one asked if something would happen between Naruto and Hinata. And immediately, one of the professionals jump in and said “Oh yeah, you don’t know it yet but at the end of the manga, Naruto get Hinata and blablabla“ And then he add “No, I’m just kidding, I don’t know anything” And there is worse: another added after that “Well the moral would like that Naruto marry Hinata”… WTF??? Since when is the moral of a shonen for a hero to end up with a random character in love with him while he’s in love with the heroine who develop feelings for him since the beginning? And then the other said “Yeah, plus, now that Naruto isn’t clear on his feelings for Sakura anymore and that he’s upset with her (Iron Land)…” Implying that Hinata has her chances now that Sakura isn’t in the course anymore.

 

Really I wanted to go there and said the show to bring some real professionals. I was feeling like reading some of the crazy NH theories. Seriously, I wasn’t pleased by the Sasuke in love thing, but it’s nothing compared to being responsible of the Naruto diffusion in your country and not being able to know the source of Naruto and Sasuke’s rivalry which is one of the main points of the manga.

And I have to add that I’m not biased when I say that they are not real professionals, they didn’t do only pairings mistakes. But the others were less important.

 

Ah! I’m feeling better!

 

 

I would say those are 'professionals' not worth taking seriously. Claiming Naruto and Sasuke's rivalry started because they were both in love with Sakura is truly one of the most ridiculous things I've heard, and there's absolutely nothing in the manga that backs it up, I don't understand what would have led them to that conclusion. :headscratch: And why is it that whenever there is a interview of some sort, people always have to bring up Hinata? Her role may not be as insignificant as it used to be, but it's still minute on the grand scale.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:17 PM

I thought that in France there were most NS fans than NH fans, unlike here in italy.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:23 PM

I thought that in France there were most NS fans than NH fans, unlike here in italy.

 

 

I assure you that there is much more NH fan that NS fan, well at least on the web. NH and Hinata's popularity seems to be high everywhere. When you go on a french forums, there are like 10 NH fan for 2 or 3 NS fans and it's most of the time NH/SS fans.  


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:32 PM

 

 

I assure you that there is much more NH fan that NS fan, well at least on the web. NH and Hinata's popularity seems to be high everywhere. When you go on a french forums, there are like 10 NH fan for 2 or 3 NS fans and it's most of the time NH/SS fans.  

It's mostly goes to the western fanbase overall i guess.

At least we got Japan's popularity and the absurd amount of dounjins and hentai compared to NH.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:36 PM

 

 

I assure you that there is much more NH fan that NS fan, well at least on the web. NH and Hinata's popularity seems to be high everywhere. When you go on a french forums, there are like 10 NH fan for 2 or 3 NS fans and it's most of the time NH/SS fans.  

 

Not much surprised about this, meh... what's wroing with western fandom...? sigh...


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:48 PM

I think that there is a lot of people in West that believe Naruto will end up with Sakura it's just that they are not pairing fans, they are neutral fans that are not involoved in pairing war. They stay quiet. I already saw in neutral threads like Chapter 631, people making a little comment about Naruto certainly end up with Sakura among a LAP about the chapter, saying something like "And now it's official, Naruto will end up with Sakura" 

So what I try to say is that even if they are not as vocal as NH fan, NS exist in the West, we are not alone, they are not just "fan", they simply believe in an NS ending and don't care about pairings. 


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 05:22 PM

 

Not much surprised about this, meh... what's wroing with western fandom...? sigh...

Are you saying it is wrong to be a Hina/NH fan? Please no man, don't think like that.

 

I'm neither western, nor eastern lol. Don't know how to clasify me, according to the world map I'm in the middle. I must be a Stark then :shrug: Or I like to think that. XD


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 05:57 PM

 

Not much surprised about this, meh... what's wroing with western fandom...? sigh...

"Hinata fans".


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 06:16 PM

I think it's kind of funny that in Rtn why kishi didn't reserve sasuke and naruto role, instead he make naruto and sakura changing role. Why not make sakura a useful girl who come from a very famous clan.

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 06:20 PM

I think it's kind of funny that in Rtn why kishi didn't reserve sasuke and naruto role, instead he make naruto and sakura changing role. Why not make sakura a useful girl who come from a very famous clan.

For the very same reason why Sasuke is not from a normal family and a lose, not everything is meant to be the opposite i mean Lee is a cross dresser.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 07:31 PM

Now that Hinata can't be a parallel to Kushina because she already is with Sakura , Hinatards are saying that she is a parallel with Minato using those pictures 

 

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Wait,when did the author made a comparison between Minato and Hinata? O_O I must've missed it :D! Oh, and um this game doesn't work really well when simple reader interference is playing, just because Sakura= Kushina Naruto=Kushina=Minato cause of heredity doesn't mean that Hinata=Minato  by default due the elimination game and she is nothing like Kushina so she has to be like Minato T_T.

Oh, and um fillers don't count , even if they did Naruto still loves Sakura , 235. Case closed .
 

 

Are you saying it is wrong to be a Hina/NH fan? Please no man, don't think like that.

 

I'm neither western, nor eastern lol. Don't know how to clasify me, according to the world map I'm in the middle. I must be a Stark then :shrug: Or I like to think that. XD

 


The golden middle , welcome to the club :3.


 


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 08:24 PM

 

Not much surprised about this, meh... what's wroing with western fandom...? sigh...

 

In times like this is good to remember that NH fans are actually considered odd in Japan, at least last time I heard.

 

You know who are good professionals of Naruto? Those guys the wrote the Kizuna books. They put 3 moments between Naruto and Sakura in the love section and only one between Sasuke and Sakura, and with Hinata's confession they placed it under encouragement, as it was always meant to be.

 

I'll never understand how people take a girl liking a boy because she looks up to him as actual development towards them becoming a couple. It just hasn't, doesn't and will never fit with how the story is told.

 

People focus so much on Hinata's evolution as a character that they don't notice that as a pair Naruto and Hinata have remained the same. Hinata breaking out of her shyness sometimes and Naruto appreciating her efforts does not equal their relationship being different. They're still just casual friends as Naruto is with the rest of the rookies.

 

On the other hand, you can see the relationship between Naruto and Sakura evolving. They go from Naruto pulling up tricks to make Sakura like him and Sakura not standing Naruto's presence, to both of them wanting to protect each other's happiness at the cost of their own feelings. You see how they would rather suffer than to see the other in pain, you see how they think dearly about each other.

 

With Naruto and Hinata, it's still all the same. Hinata becomes more confident thanks to her admiration of Naruto, and loves him for giving her that opportunity. And with Naruto, he simply acknowledges her efforts and goes back to business.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 09:43 PM

since when did sakura show herself to be a bad cook?  :wot: saw it in as one of the anti ns reason :argh:  did anyone cook anything in the series lol. maybe its from fillers?


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 09:49 PM

since when did sakura show herself to be a bad cook?  :wot: saw it in as one of the anti ns reason :argh:  did anyone cook anything in the series lol. maybe its from fillers?

Yeah i dont see why this argument is even relevant but i do remember that Sakura do suck at housewife works but yet it's something that can be learn offscreen, i mean for someome like Sakura who can master the Yin Seal, cooking must be easy.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 09:50 PM

since when did sakura show herself to be a bad cook?  :wot: saw it in as one of the anti ns reason :argh:  did anyone cook anything in the series lol. maybe its from fillers?

Yup, Fillers.. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻. But seriously though , so what if Sakura can't cook ? Does this mean that she will not learn in the future? No.

My father and mother didn't knew how to put a pan on the cooking stove when they  married not to mention they didn't know how to turn it on , but after a few burned meals and a new stove , the meals are now enjoyable . So i don't see anything wrong with the inability of cooking... Its just another sorry excuse to bring down Sakura if you ask me...


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:10 PM

lol knew it. sigh pie.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:38 PM

I found this on deviantArt and I really wanted to share it:  http://narutoxsakura...-Rant-339209162.  Tell me what you guys think. 



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:54 PM

I found this on deviantArt and I really wanted to share it:  http://narutoxsakura...-Rant-339209162.  Tell me what you guys think. 

 

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 12:21 AM

since when did sakura show herself to be a bad cook?  :wot: saw it in as one of the anti ns reason :argh:  did anyone cook anything in the series lol. maybe its from fillers?

 

The only time we've seen Sakura or Hinata make meals are on fillers so there goes that argument.

 

But how about we use the fillers just for fun this time since Sakura isn't even depicted as a bad cook in them. A bad cook is someone that prepares food that could be hazardous for the health of the one who eats it. Sakura's food is the complete opposite of that.

 

The comedy of Sakura's cooking in the fillers (mainly the soldier pills) is that she tends to focus more on the nutritious side of the preparation instead of the taste itself. What Sakura prepares actually has very healthy properties (which comes from applying her medical knowledge to the food), but as we all know what's most healthy tends to not be the most delicious.

 

Medicine sometimes taste horrible, does that mean that medicine is bad for you? Of course not, it helps your body be more healthy. So next time some idiot wants to accuse Sakura of being a bad cook just ask them if medicine is bad for their body (then again there are some stupid people who would probably say that it is just for the sake of justifying themselves, they are a pretty pathetic bunch).






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