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Posted 10 November 2014 - 12:32 PM

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#11062 NS4Life

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 12:39 PM

I guess I have a hard time someone saying ss is just as normal as ns especially from a female.

It's like you think what ray rice did to his now wife is ok. He knocked her out in a elevator then dragged her away. Ray rice and sasuke are the same or sasuke is worse.

I don't believe nh was end game from the beginning. He would've developed it.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 12:41 PM

I guess I have a hard time someone saying ss is just as normal as ns especially from a female.

It's like you think what ray rice did to his now wife is ok. He knocked her out in a elevator then dragged her away. Ray rice and sasuke are the same or sasuke is worse.

I don't believe nh was end game from the beginning. He would've developed it.

Can we stop for a second. And actually think of Sakura as a heroine, who is trying to rescue the one she loves?


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 12:45 PM

Can we stop for a second. And actually think of Sakura as a heroine, who is trying to rescue the one she loves?

To what length, her death? I depise violence against women!

Her total character was to save sasuke and be his stay at home wife? Sorry, don't agree.

She went from crush to love even if sasuke killed her? Come on.

Where is the development for love?

Edited by NS4Life, 10 November 2014 - 12:47 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 12:53 PM

To what length, her death? I depise violence against women!

Her total character was to save sasuke and be his stay at home wife? Sorry, don't agree.

She went from crush to love even if sasuke killed her? Come on.

Where is the development for love?

:/ what if Sakura was a guy, and Sasuke was a girl? The "Sasuke" despised her bonds, but "Sakura" loved her enough to want her to come back to being her old self. Naruto isn't a story about Naruto becoming hokage. It's about Sasuke's redemption with the help of his best friend and the girl who loves him.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 01:13 PM

:/ what if Sakura was a guy, and Sasuke was a girl? The "Sasuke" despised her bonds, but "Sakura" loved her enough to want her to come back to being her old self. Naruto isn't a story about Naruto becoming hokage. It's about Sasuke's redemption with the help of his best friend and the girl who loves him.


Doesn't matter which gender it is. Sasuke tried to kill sakura 3 times and then stabbed her in the heart. There is nothing great about loving someone like that. That is how most abusive relationships are. The person thinks they can get that person back to how they were. Here is the real issue, sakura was never in a relationship with sasuke. She didn't save him in the end. What is worse is after he tried to kill naruto she wanted to go with sasuke.

In the end this is the worse ship I have ever seen!

His whole story is not about naruto becoming Hokage, it's about sasuke' salvation. We don't even get to enjoy naruto becoming hokage.

This whole story is about the uchiha salvation.

To me, they don't need to resolve NS. It died when sakura wanted to go with sasuke.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 01:15 PM

Doesn't matter which gender it is. Sasuke tried to kill sakura 3 times and then stabbed her in the heart. There is nothing great about loving someone like that. That is how most abusive relationships are. The person thinks they can get that person back to how they were. Here is the real issue, sakura was never in a relationship with sasuke. She didn't save him in the end. What is worse is after he tried to kill naruto she wanted to go with sasuke.

In the end this is the worse ship I have ever seen!

His whole story is not about naruto becoming Hokage, it's about sasuke' salvation. We don't even get to enjoy naruto becoming hokage.

This whole story is about the uchiha salvation.

To me, they don't need to resolve NS. It died when sakura wanted to go with sasuke.

Are you saying Naruto should've stopped trying to save Sasuke when he tried to kill Sakura?


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 01:22 PM

Are you saying Naruto should've stopped trying to save Sasuke when he tried to kill Sakura?

I think the whole saving sasuke was bs from the beginning. I think naruto should put down sasuke as in kill him. How many excuses can you give for sasuke' behavior?

If your friend tries to kill you and your love of your life, what do you do. I left friends from school due to their destructive behavior with alcohol.

Sasuke got everything in the end and never suffered any consequences at the end.

Edited by NS4Life, 10 November 2014 - 01:23 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 01:23 PM

Can we stop for a second. And actually think of Sakura as a heroine, who is trying to rescue the one she loves?

It would work if there was a reason for her to love him outside of the crush she had for him as a kid, even in the final scenes of 699 she appears to be a school girl with a crush.

 

Also there NEEDS to be more positive moments from Sasuke to Sakura. There is just not enough to justify all the negative things that happened.



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 01:25 PM

Why does sakura love sasuke? We know why naruto does. Why does sasuke love sakura now.

I find it funny how sakura can move like nothing never happened, but women never forget.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 01:28 PM

Why does sakura love sasuke? We know why naruto does. Why does sasuke love sakura now.

I find it funny how sakura can move like nothing never happened, but women never forget.

I don't think even Kishi can give a proper answer to those questions.

 

That's why all the "development" happened off screen. Heck Sasuke has only been shown to be away from Sakura even when he is "together" with her. Even in the movie he is still wandering isn't he?



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 01:33 PM

I don't think even Kishi can give a proper answer to those questions.
 
That's why all the "development" happened off screen. Heck Sasuke has only been shown to be away from Sakura even when he is "together" with her. Even in the movie he is still wandering isn't he?

That is the thing, you would think her being around naruto would change her. She was depressed and naruto gave her hope. Naruto filled all the holes that sasuke didn't fill. Every time sasuke brought down naruto lifted her up. It's like helped sakura though life, so she can right back to sasuke.

This movie will give excuses for all relationships. This why I will not watch it.

You're right. Even in 700. I couldn't look at sakura if I was sasuke. I would always feel guilty for the things I had done.

Edited by NS4Life, 10 November 2014 - 01:35 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 01:42 PM

PLS no defending Sakura!
She knew Naruto loves her...
She knew how much her feelings for Sasuke hurt Naruto...

...and in the end she still just wants go with Sasuke leaving Naruto alone in the village. Nothing anybody says can justify her actions in this last chapter.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 01:55 PM

PLS no defending Sakura!
She knew Naruto loves her...
She knew how much her feelings for Sasuke hurt Naruto...

...and in the end she still just wants go with Sasuke leaving Naruto alone in the village. Nothing anybody says can justify her actions in this last chapter.

Tbf I can't justify anything that happened in the last chapters. All the characters, their words and actions- its all messed up.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 02:12 PM

PLS no defending Sakura!
She knew Naruto loves her...
She knew how much her feelings for Sasuke hurt Naruto...

...and in the end she still just wants go with Sasuke leaving Naruto alone in the village. Nothing anybody says can justify her actions in this last chapter.

?????

What if we blame Kishimoto? Because that's what people are doing. And is not Sakura's obligation to return Naruto's feelings. That's kitten. 


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 02:30 PM

Still holding onto the faint hope that as part of the plot, Hinata gets imprisoned and stuck in a dream and all the NaruHina we've been seeing is has "what might have been" stuff.  And that "NARUTO and HINATA" is her confessing and him saying no.  :twitch:


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 02:47 PM

Still holding onto the faint hope that as part of the plot, Hinata gets imprisoned and stuck in a dream and all the NaruHina we've been seeing is has "what might have been" stuff.  And that "NARUTO and HINATA" is her confessing and him saying no.  :twitch:

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 03:05 PM

?????

What if we blame Kishimoto? Because that's what people are doing. And is not Sakura's obligation to return Naruto's feelings. That's bullsh**. 

XD what are you even talking about XDDD

Of course Kishi is to blame, but you surely know that hes the one writting Sakura so if we blame Sakura, we blame Kishi. But the way Kishi drew Sakura, her character got wrecked the most.

Sakuras obligation? I dont care about her obligation this is a manga. I want the ending that the story is showing me to build up, but if you see no problem the way Sakuras character was portrayed... well yeah.

 

You surely know the only way for Sakura to keep her development was getting with Naruto


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 03:11 PM

XD what are you even talking about XDDD

Of course Kishi is to blame, but you surely know that hes the one writting Sakura so if we blame Sakura, we blame Kishi. But the way Kishi drew Sakura, her character got wrecked the most.

Sakuras obligation? I dont care about her obligation this is a manga. I want the ending that the story is showing me to build up, but if you see no problem the way Sakuras character was portrayed... well yeah.

 

You surely know the only way for Sakura to keep her development was getting with Naruto

I do have a problem how she was portrayed. Because it implies that if you wait enough the abuser will change, after several murder attemps. But not about Naruto. I know that the manga is practically about Narusaku--after Narusasu, lmao-- but she doesn't need to return his feelings, even after all they both have pass through. You can't obligate a person to fall in love with another. The only true thing here is that, from a writing perspective, it will be bad writing. Not because of all he drew for them, but for all he didn't draw for the rest.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 03:17 PM

I do have a problem how she was portrayed. Because it implies that if you wait enough the abuser will change, after several murder attemps. But not about Naruto. I know that the manga is practically about Narusaku--after Narusasu, lmao-- but she doesn't need to return his feelings, even after all they both have pass through. You can't obligate a person to fall in love with another. The only true thing here is that, from a writing perspective, it will be bad writing. Not because of all he drew for them, but for all he didn't draw for the rest.

Yeah You can't obligate a person to fall in love with another, but the manga is showing that they will so they should end up toghether. Sakura is a romance based character, so it was clear that she would either end up with Naruto or Sasuke in the end. Well during part 2 it was clear she wouldnt end up with Sasuke, So it should be obvious that she was going to be with Naruto since it was the onyl way to keep her development.

That DIDNT happen.... kitten writing

 

The way Sakura was portrayed in the last chapter, was horrible she lost all developmetn and made her look like a hearthless kitten to Naruto.


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