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Posted 11 November 2013 - 07:48 AM

 

I think that there's a bit of a difference between a comparison and an actual parallel.  One could argue that all of the non-Team 7 Konoha 11 (other than Tenten) have been compared to previous generations of their clan (or in the case of Lee, to his teacher), but the type of build-up and storytelling is very different when compared to the sort of actual parallelism used to tell Team 7's stories.  What do you mean that Shikamaru and Temari's relationship was "paralleled" with Shikamaru's parents?  When his father said that thing about tough women being tender with the men they love?  Or was there something else, because I don't know that that I'd consider that a parallel (so much as a general statement).  Though, I am curious as to where that relationship might be going.  I find it interesting that Kishimosto supposedly said he's not interested in writing a romance for Shikamaru, yet seems to often give Temari some sort of focus when Shikamaru is doing something praiseworthy.

 

Tell me when was Hinata compared to her father? because I don't remember when that comparison was made. Also with this logic then Naruto and Minato are not a legitimate parallel. Another thing you didn't mention anything about Shikamaru and Asuma, who share a similar relationship to the relationship that Naruto and Jiraiya had. In all of Shikaku's appearances it was shown that he and Shikamaru act similar, and during the Sasuke Retrieval arc Shikamaru did compare Temari with his mom, so I ask how is this any different then Minato comparing Sakura and Kushina, or is it only a parallel if a third party does the comparison?


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:06 AM

 

Tell me when was Hinata compared to her father? because I don't remember when that comparison was made. Also with this logic then Naruto and Minato are not a legitimate parallel. Another thing you didn't mention anything about Shikamaru and Asuma, who share a similar relationship to the relationship that Naruto and Jiraiya had. In all of Shikaku's appearances it was shown that he and Shikamaru act similar, and during the Sasuke Retrieval arc Shikamaru did compare Temari with his mom, so I ask how is this any different then Minato comparing Sakura and Kushina, or is it only a parallel if a third party does the comparison?

 

Like I said, I wasn't sure to what you were referring when  you said that his mother and Temari were "paralleled," that's why I asked for clarification (and thanks for giving it to me).  Still, noting a similarity is nothing near an actual parallel.  Manga context matters, yes Minato noted that Sakura and Kushina are similar, but what was the build up to that?  The author had Kushina --Naruto's mother-- appear essentially in order to tell Naruto of his parents' love story (and yes, there were other things involved, but their love story was very important) and then showed that Kushina had given Naruto some romantic guidance --asked him not to fall for a weird girl, to be with a girl like his mother-- that was done to indicate the direction of the romantic story and to some degree to set-up some tension (will Naruto end up with a weird girl?  Will Naruto end up with the girl like his mother?).  It laid groundwork for the future of the romantic story, it indicated that if a girl was to be equated with Kushina that would be extremely important for the hero's romantic story.  That's why I call that a parallel rather than a comparison, because of the work Kishi put in, because of the way the story had to be molded and maneuvered in order to get his point across.  Simply commenting on the similarities between characters is not equivalent to a parallel, IMO, if so then Naruto would parallel Kushina and while in your opinion that might be the case I do not think so.  They're similar, but they don't parallel each other.

 

I said it could be argued that the Konoha 11 have in some way been compared to previous generations --I might have been off with Hinata but I honestly don't care to look or argue for it-- but I'm not going to, because ultimately I don't care.  If you want to claim that Shikamaru was "paralleled" go ahead, but I stand by my statement that the comparisons involving Shikamaru don't have the type of build-up, detail, or story-wide effect as the Team 7 centered parallels.  I'm not denying that Shikamaru is an important character (in some  ways/in certain instances he's more important than Kakashi and Sakura), nor am I denying that he's more important than the rest of K11

 

About Asuma and Shikamaru's relationship, yes Shikamaru's experiences after Asuma's death was used to help Naruto cope with Jiraiya's death, but I don't think (and I might be wrong) that Asuma and Shikamaru's relationship was characterized like Jiraiya and Naruto's.  Naruto didn't have a family and as such Jiraiya became his family during their years together.  While Asuma was incredibly important to Shikamaru, that relationship wasn't paralleled with Jiraiya and Naruto's, rather Shikamaru used experiences he shared with Naruto to advise him, to help him out.  That laid the foundation for Shikamaru's future role as Naruto's adviser, but wasn't a parallel IMO (similarities were hinted throughout the story, until something was revealed/closed and it certainly shows that Shikamaru is an extremely important character (and he is, he had his own arc for goodness sake).  If anything, the trajectory of Asuma and Shikamaru's relationship is probably more similar to Minato and Kakashi's (I'd write more than that, but I'm lazy at the moment).

 

I think that Shikamaru and Shikaku's similarities are more akin to Naruto and Kushina's --they have similar personalities, similar talents-- but Kishimoto did not set up a comparison between these parent-child relationships.  The relationship between Naruto and Minato was built up to the point that the reader finally found out that Naruto is the son of the 4th and to the point that Naruto found out that he is the son of the 4th.  Until then we knew that Naruto admired Minato, worshiped Minato as a hero (and indicated that he wanted to be like Minato, willing to sacrifice himself for the people), we saw that Jiraiya and Kakashi proudly and nostalgically comment upon their similarities/the fact that only Naruto could surpass the 4th, Kishimoto purposefully kept us from meeting the 4th (when Orochimaru resurrected the other two Hokage with Edo Tensei).  Those things (and perhaps many more details that I'm forgetting), those 'similarities' (and Naruto's desire to be similar to Minato) were included into the the manga for a purpose: so that we'd question the relationship between Naruto and the 4th, so that when Naruto's parentage is revealed it would make sense.  And of course, after the revelation and during Kushina's story the parallel is actually clarified.  We find out that like Naruto, Minato dreamed of becoming Hokage, we know that Minato wanted to change the Shinobi world but why is that a parallel to Naruto as opposed to a simple comparison to him?  Because ultimately Minato failed.  He died (by choice) early, he couldn't change the Shinobi World, he could save his wife, he couldn't raise a family with her.  So the similarities aren't just commented about, but set-up the question "will Naruto succeed in the areas in which Minato failed"?  It's that question, that tension that, those details, that level of build-up that differentiates similarities and simple comparisons from actual parallels to me (at least in this story).  It's the question of whether or not Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura succeed in the way that the characters (and relationships) molded after them succeeded, whether or not they'll succeed in the areas that the characters around them failed.  Will this generation bring a closure to stories/to tension that have/has been ongoing for many generations.

 

Anyway, I'm moving on.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:51 AM

An in depth analysis of the latest magazine cover

 

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Do u think it's delibrate or just that the tumblr author thinks too much?


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:24 AM

 

You mean a romance parallel? To me it was ObiRin most definitely during Kakashi Gaiden. My instinct told me that we were supposed to look at Obito's regret of not confessing to Rin as a tragedy that Naruto was supposed to overcome by telling Sakura how he feels. Then comes chapter 599 and, lo and behold, that little tidbit about Obito's feelings for Rin is revealed as the catalyst for the events of the manga.

 

The reason I don't mention JiraTsu first is that, to be honest, I didn't realize Jiraiya was seriously in love with Tsunade until he flat out said it was a regret of his that she always rejected him. I was aware that Jiraiya found her attractive, but since he was a pervert I just brushed off his behavior towards Tsunade as how he behaves with those other girls we saw him with.

Yep i think the same.

Obi/Rin was stated right off the bait when we saw how Team 7 and Kakashi's team were similar even on a love triangle.

Mina/Kushi when Kushina appeared out right for the first time on Jiraiya's flashback we could not tell if Minato/Kushina were Naru/Saku parallels until Naruto spoke with Kushina, and she showed off to be a Tsundere and when she said that Naruto should look for someome like his mother and for the irony of the destiny he fell in love with Sakura.

 

It's funny because Naruto passed his whole life talking about how he can change his destiny when everything on his life was destined to happen even his love for Sakura is somewhat destined to happen due to the previous parallels and his mother's words.

Obviously NS is meant to happen due to the development it had but it become the secondary reason because due to the parallels and how the previous ones happened, NS is due to happen because the primary reason is that by it happening he surpass Obito/Jiraiya and even Minato.(Minato could not protect his family so in a way it does surpass).


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:48 AM

An in depth analysis of the latest magazine cover

 

Team 7 http://generalcarawa...16295317/team-7

 

Do u think it's delibrate or just that the tumblr author thinks too much?

 

Have you guys noticed that ever since 631 came out there's been a disproportional amount of overanalyzing and looking for evidence in the most microscopic details to justify NH/SS?

 

I know we've been guilty of it as well with that Samurai cover in 616, but in all seriousness this isn't the DaVinci code. I don't think Kishi is leaving such little clues that you have to spend hours in order to find specific panels and then interpret them to your leisure.

 

Also, I'm annoyed at how certain fans forget that Naruto is the main character and thus the struggles revolve around him. They think it's about all about Sasuke and how Naruto goes after him to because of hi brotherly bond and how Sakura goes after him because of her romantic bond. They seriously think Sasuke is the center of everything with Naruto and Sakura being the attachments.

 

They really forget how Sakura specifically said right after the time-skip that she wants to protect both Naruto and Sasuke, and how she said that her dream is to see all of Team 7 laughing together again. Apparently it's all about Sakura's love for Sasuke, not for her love for Team 7. This is so stupid.

 

Not to mention that if someone is actually at the center with the other two being the attachments it's actually Naruto. He's at the center of the tale and the main aspect of his story is his relationship with Team 7, in one side his brotherly bond with Sasuke and on the other his romantic bond with Sakura. It's about how Sasuke and Sakura started out as the complete opposite bonds with Naruto and as the story progress those bonds develop with their ups and downs until they're finally realized.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:15 PM

It's funny because Naruto passed his whole life talking about how he can change his destiny when everything on his life was destined to happen even his love for Sakura is somewhat destined to happen due to the previous parallels and his mother's words.

Obviously NS is meant to happen due to the development it had but it become the secondary reason because due to the parallels and how the previous ones happened, NS is due to happen because the primary reason is that by it happening he surpass Obito/Jiraiya and even Minato.(Minato could not protect his family so in a way it does surpass).

 

Well to be fair he could of chose not to do the things he did in the series.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:26 PM

 

Have you guys noticed that ever since 631 came...

I agree with the whole post.

It's overanalyzing every single detail and for me that is just a mere coincidence, it doesnt explain nothing.

Just picked up random panels.

 

In fact if we look for Sasuke's growth, it was his desire of revenge that lead him to what he is currently now, for Sakura, we can point ou easily her desire to protect both Naruto/Sasuke, the promise at the hospital and her vow that she will become stronger then Naruto and Sasuke wont need to protect her.

 

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Now going back to the topic, obviously enforces the idea of a backstab i mean Obito was redeemed on based what Rin would think about what he's doing now, i mean Sasuke is guilty free on this matter with Itachi because Itachi told him that no matter what he do from now on he will always love him.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 06:18 PM

 

I think that there's a bit of a difference between a comparison and an actual parallel.  One could argue that all of the non-Team 7 Konoha 11 (other than Tenten) have been compared to previous generations of their clan (or in the case of Lee, to his teacher), but the type of build-up and storytelling is very different when compared to the sort of actual parallelism used to tell Team 7's stories.  What do you mean that Shikamaru and Temari's relationship was "paralleled" with Shikamaru's parents?  When his father said that thing about tough women being tender with the men they love?  Or was there something else, because I don't know that that I'd consider that a parallel (so much as a general statement).  Though, I am curious as to where that relationship might be going.  I find it interesting that Kishimosto supposedly said he's not interested in writing a romance for Shikamaru, yet seems to often give Temari some sort of focus when Shikamaru is doing something praiseworthy.

 

Exactly this. Sometimes I think people look too deeply to find parallels where there really aren't intended to be any, like trying to parallel Naruto and Kushina when that has never been Kishimoto's intention in showing their similarities, he is her son after all so it's only logical that he would take after her in some ways. Or saying that Neji and Hinata are paralleled to Minato and Kushina because of chapter 614 - Neji's sacrifice was compared to Naruto's parents', but I don't see it as a parallel. Comparisons and similarities are not parallels, for the reasons Morgaine4 stated.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 06:22 PM

Indeed. You let the character themselves say it, not guess it.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 06:47 PM

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 06:52 PM

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:37 PM

Do you guys think Sakura will confess again to Naruto?

 

I'll be honest, as obvious as the foreshadowing is for NS, I sometimes find myself worried about the execution for it. If Sakura were to talk about her feelings for Naruto once again how would it go? In her previous confession she already said all of the standard things we would've expected her to say:

 

- That Naruto has always stuck by her side

- That he always encouraged her

- That she finally realized who he really is

- That he went from a mischievous kid to a great man

- That she has witnessed his growth first hand

 

If she were to confess again I don't think it would be good to use any of those elements again since they're already associated with her still not loving Naruto completely.

 

On the other hand I understand that Naruto was meant to reject the confession because Sakura shouldn't love him just because he's better than Sasuke in paper, it should come from her heart regardless of what position either Naruto or Sasuke have. Otherwise, Sakura would be accused of liking Naruto only because he's a hero now (not that it has stopped some fans from doing so).

 

I guess an aspect Sakura didn't bring up is how Naruto is the one who brings her the most happiness, so that could be used if Sakura ever needs to talk about her feelings again. What I wonder is if that's enough to focus on. I suppose it could be done with the proper writing, but I still can't help think about how it would all go down.

 

And of course I think Sakura should make a realization about her feelings for Sasuke not being romantic anymore before she even tries to openly confess to Naruto once again. Or maybe she could do both simultaneously if, for example, she concludes that as a child she thought someone cool like Sasuke would be the perfect guy to bring her happiness since, in paper, he had all the qualities that one would assume would make for the greatest guy, but that as she has grown with Naruto she's realized that he's the one that gave her all those feelings of happiness.

 

Maybe she can admit that her feelings for Sasuke come from her childish fantasies about how she wanted him to be and that she kept at it since in her mind Sasuke was the perfect choice to become the guy she wanted. But that, without her wishing it, Naruto is who had become what she truly desired for.

 

If Sakura is ever to have a monologue about letting go of her feelings for Sasuke, and that occurs before Sasuke's final redemption, then it should be focused on how she felt about him during her childhood and on Part 1. How the Sasuke she wanted was a childish dream based on selfish desires, but that Naruto is who became her real dream. At least I hope it can all go something like that, it would certainly be better than Sakura not liking Sasuke just because he's evil.

 

Although during the Summit arc it was emphasized that Sakura wanted to kill Sasuke because she loves him enough not to want to see him become more evil, therefore it makes her love not only about her but also about Sasuke's wellbeing. That's another element that needs to be addressed as well.

 

So you can see how I sometimes feel worried about the whole situation being resolved properly.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:49 PM

Do you guys think Sakura will confess again to Naruto?

 

I'll be honest, as obvious as the foreshadowing is for NS, I sometimes find myself worried about the execution for it. If Sakura were to talk about her feelings for Naruto once again how would it go? In her previous confession she already said all of the standard things we would've expected her to say:

 

- That Naruto has always stuck by her side

- That he always encouraged her

- That she finally realized who he really is

- That he went from a mischievous kid to a great man

- That she has witnessed his growth first hand

 

If she were to confess again I don't think it would be good to use any of those elements again since they're already associated with her still not loving Naruto completely.

 

On the other hand I understand that Naruto was meant to reject the confession because Sakura shouldn't love him just because he's better than Sasuke in paper, it should come from her heart regardless of what position either Naruto or Sasuke have. Otherwise, Sakura would be accused of liking Naruto only because he's a hero now (not that it has stopped some fans from doing so).

 

I guess an aspect Sakura didn't bring up is how Naruto is the one who brings her the most happiness, so that could be used if Sakura ever needs to talk about her feelings again. What I wonder is if that's enough to focus on. I suppose it could be done with the proper writing, but I still can't help think about how it would all go down.

 

And of course I think Sakura should make a realization about her feelings for Sasuke not being romantic anymore before she even tries to openly confess to Naruto once again. Or maybe she could do both simultaneously if, for example, she concludes that as a child she thought someone cool like Sasuke would be the perfect guy to bring her happiness since, in paper, he had all the qualities that one would assume would make for the greatest guy, but that as she has grown with Naruto she's realized that he's the one that gave her all those feelings of happiness.

 

Maybe she can admit that her feelings for Sasuke come from her childish fantasies about how she wanted him to be and that she kept at it since in her mind Sasuke was the perfect choice to become the guy she wanted. But that, without her wishing it, Naruto is who had become what she truly desired for.

 

If Sakura is ever to have a monologue about letting go of her feelings for Sasuke, and that occurs before Sasuke's final redemption, then it should be focused on how she felt about him during her childhood and on Part 1. How the Sasuke she wanted was a childish dream based on selfish desires, but that Naruto is who became her real dream. At least I hope it can all go something like that, it would certainly be better than Sakura not liking Sasuke just because he's evil.

 

Although during the Summit arc it was emphasized that Sakura wanted to kill Sasuke because she loves him enough not to want to see him become more evil, therefore it makes her love not only about her but also about Sasuke's wellbeing. That's another element that needs to be addressed as well.

 

So you can see how I sometimes feel worried about the whole situation being resolved properly.

I believe the chance for her to confess to Naruto is higher than Naruto confessing to Sakura, males on this manga never started up a relationship on this manga and Sakura is the active factor of the romance subplot.

 

She just need to say that he's the most important person for her and she hasnt said that to Naruto, Naruto thinks that Sasuke is the most important person to her life due to the Poal and the scenes he witnessed he always think that Sakura can never give him the same affection she does to Sasuke, and when she does he's always surprised, like the hug, feeding etc...

 

What make her confession fake is that she didnt admitted the fact that she didnt wanted to lose Naruto or he die, that she prefers to lose Sasuke than Naruto, which was the one of the reasons why she made the confession anyway.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:54 PM

Rather than a confession from Sakura, I'd like to see action from her that Naruto actually sees that confirms to him that Sakura has fallen for him (I have this soft spot for a person who has been in love with someone, confidently realizing that that person has fallen for him/her...it's just really cute when someone who has been holding back one's feelings and who has been shy/unconfident about said feelings no longer has those barriers).  Plus, it would be really awesome if Chiyo's advice played out as well.  Rather, I want to see Naruto confess.  We had Lee confess, we had Hinata confess, we had Sakura confess twice, I think Naruto should get a chance to confess.  I guess he'll wait until after Sasuke undergoes his redemption, but it would be nice if he confessed before thinking he and Sasuke might actually die.

 

I believe the chance for her to confess to Naruto is higher than Naruto confessing to Sakura, males on this manga never started up a relationship on this manga and Sakura is the active factor of the romance subplot.

 

You're probably right, on the other hand Kishimoto has included that Naruto wants to confess when he feels worthy.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:28 PM

Rather than a confession from Sakura, I'd like to see action from her that Naruto actually sees that confirms to him that Sakura has fallen for him (I have this soft spot for a person who has been in love with someone, confidently realizing that that person has fallen for him/her...it's just really cute when someone who has been holding back one's feelings and who has been shy/unconfident about said feelings no longer has those barriers).  Plus, it would be really awesome if Chiyo's advice played out as well.  Rather, I want to see Naruto confess.  We had Lee confess, we had Hinata confess, we had Sakura confess twice, I think Naruto should get a chance to confess.  I guess he'll wait until after Sasuke undergoes his redemption, but it would be nice if he confessed before thinking he and Sasuke might actually die.

 

 

You're probably right, on the other hand Kishimoto has included that Naruto wants to confess when he feels worthy.

But he also included the fact that Naruto has a strong mindset that Sakura loves Sasuke only, and that she's only truly happy with him(SS panels with Sakura smilling).

Both of them nullify each other, either with Naruto saying that he will confess to Sakura but at the same time believing Sakura strongly loves Sasuke, you wont really make a confess when you firmly believe this love interest love another guy, Obito also had the same thing about confessing to Rin and we know that he dropped out on the last minute because of this.

 

And being honest i'm totally confused, o the part when Naruto said "more or less being his girlfriend" whe ni look back the last part was him saying that she loves Sasuke too much and the flashbacks on his head of SasuSaku.

I'm from the ones who believe that Sakura will have to show to Naruto that she loves him rather than confessing her love, the fact Sasuke is here might help it due to break this stupid Naruto mindset and because of that makes me confused about either he's being serious or just joking on the "more or less girlfriend", but either choices still say that he loves Sakura, i believe it was just a nice way to tell his father that she's the girl.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:25 AM

To be honest, it should be Naruto this time. It's us guys to do the confession. Why else in many media always show the guy pull the first move. Heck, the idea of marriage comes from us guys, not girls. I'm not that sure however, but in my experience, the guy usually does the move. I mean, I did it. Sure, I was scared if I was going to get friendzoned, but phew, I didn't. Case in point, Naruto is the only guy left to do the confession and while Sakura builds up her feelings, the anticipation just keeps growing.



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:34 AM

Honestly, I'm not worried about whether NS will be canon or not (cause it obviously will), but about the execution. It could be amazing and one of the most heartfelt/touching/whatever scenes in the manga, or kitten. I hope Kishi does it right, Naruto & Sakura - and the fans who've agonized over this pairing for years - deserve that much lol.

But he also included the fact that Naruto has a strong mindset that Sakura loves Sasuke only, and that she's only truly happy with him(SS panels with Sakura smilling).
Both of them nullify each other, either with Naruto saying that he will confess to Sakura but at the same time believing Sakura strongly loves Sasuke, you wont really make a confess when you firmly believe this love interest love another guy, Obito also had the same thing about confessing to Rin and we know that he dropped out on the last minute because of this.

Well Obito's biggest regret was not being able to tell Rin how he feels about her. I think eventually he would have told her, whether Rin felt the same way or not, cause he needs to get that off his chest, you know? If the situation arose, I think Naruto would do the same. Especially now that he's seen Obito's memories.

And... Naruto is the only one who hasn't given a confession. He's the main character, so he should get a chance to at least confess his feelings.
 

And being honest i'm totally confused, o the part when Naruto said "more or less being his girlfriend" whe ni look back the last part was him saying that she loves Sasuke too much and the flashbacks on his head of SasuSaku.
I'm from the ones who believe that Sakura will have to show to Naruto that she loves him rather than confessing her love, the fact Sasuke is here might help it due to break this stupid Naruto mindset and because of that makes me confused about either he's being serious or just joking on the "more or less girlfriend", but either choices still say that he loves Sakura, i believe it was just a nice way to tell his father that she's the girl.

Eh, I don't think he was joking... That would be a kitten move, to be honest. He heard Sakura's confession, and I think he may believe she feels something for him, too (whereas before, he thought there was no chance for him), but he's just not entirely sure where they stand right now. They're technically not boyfriend and girlfriend, but they're definitely more than friends.


Man, I wish I could get inside Kishi's head. See what he was thinking when he wrote scenes and find out how he intended them to be interpreted. If he comes out one day and clears up some things, that would make things so much easier.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:40 AM

Honestly, I'm not worried about whether NS will be canon or not (cause it obviously will), but about the execution. It could be amazing and one of the most heartfelt/touching/whatever scenes in the manga, or sh*tty. I hope Kishi does it right, Naruto & Sakura and the fans deserve that much lol.

Well Obito's biggest regret was not being able to tell Rin how he feels about her. I think eventually he would have told her, whether Rin felt the same way or not, cause he needs to get that off his chest, you know? If the situation arose, I think Naruto would do the same. Especially now that he's seen Obito's memories.

And... Naruto is the only one who hasn't given a confession. He's the main character, so he should get a chance to at least confess his feelings.
 Eh, I don't think he was joking... That would be a kitten move, to be honest. He heard Sakura's confession, and I think he may believe she feels something for him, too (whereas before, he thought there was no chance for him), but he's just not entirely sure where they stand right now. They're technically not boyfriend and girlfriend, but they're definitely more than friends.


Man, I wish I could get inside Kishi's head. See what he was thinking when he wrote scenes and find out how he intended them to be interpreted. If he comes out one day and clears up some things, that would make things so much easier.

Inst the same thing, he was about to confess to her and dropped it because he saw that she still loved Kakashi, unless if you're implying that he would just pull out a Hinata to just say "i love you" and dont demand an answer like Hinata did with Naruto.

Confessions are meant to be "make it or break it", i prefer Sakura confessing to Naruto and demanding an answer rather than make Naruto pull out a Hinata confess to Sakura then leave and friendzone himself.

In fact i firmly believe that Naruto wont confess because Sakura has to resolve her issues when it comes to her feelings, Naruto cant be just come out from nowhere and confess, the problem doesnt lie on Naruto's feelings but rather than Sakura, Sakura has to show to Naruto and the audience that she acknowledges what she feels for Naruto as love.

Because if Naruto just confess without Sakura resolving her problems she will accept it and we wont know if it's because she's acknowledges it as love or just want to return his feelings for Naruto's happiness.

 

There's either friends or boyfriend, there's the good friend category, unless you're implying that he resolved all the NS obstacles from his side like off-panel?, saying that they were like a couple, but believes that she loves Sasuke and is happy with Sasuke.

If he acknowledges that they are almost a couple why he would be jealous when Sasuke helped to  save Sakura is not him sure that she loves him like you're implying?

I'm sorry but if he's being deadly serious that would be a kitten move from Kishi by resolving the biggest problem of Naruto on NS off panel.

I didnt see any conclusion from Naruto's side on the summit rather than saying that Sakura loves Sasuke and that was the reason to prevent Naruto acknowledging that he's the most important person to Sakura.

 

The main character argument doesnt really helps, Dragon Quest is also like this, wasnt the main character who made the confession but rather the heroine who did it and asked for a chance to prove that she loves him.

Despite being the main character, Naruto is oblivious to romance and being honest so far the whole romance subplot only goes forward when Sakura comes into play i never see Naruto actually making a progress on the romance subplot by himself.

 

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I never see a guy starting a romance on the shounen's i've read like

Dragon Ball, Full Metal Alchemist, Dragon Quest...


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:42 AM

Honestly, I'm not worried about whether NS will be canon or not (cause it obviously will), but about the execution. It could be amazing and one of the most heartfelt/touching/whatever scenes in the manga, or sh*tty. I hope Kishi does it right, Naruto & Sakura and the fans who've agonized over this pairing for years deserve that much lol.

Well Obito's biggest regret was not being able to tell Rin how he feels about her. I think eventually he would have told her, whether Rin felt the same way or not, cause he needs to get that off his chest, you know? If the situation arose, I think Naruto would do the same. Especially now that he's seen Obito's memories.

And... Naruto is the only one who hasn't given a confession. He's the main character, so he should get a chance to at least confess his feelings.
 Eh, I don't think he was joking... That would be a kitten move, to be honest. He heard Sakura's confession, and I think he may believe she feels something for him, too (whereas before, he thought there was no chance for him), but he's just not entirely sure where they stand right now. They're technically not boyfriend and girlfriend, but they're definitely more than friends.


Man, I wish I could get inside Kishi's head. See what he was thinking when he wrote scenes and find out how he intended them to be interpreted. If he comes out one day and clears up some things, that would make things so much easier.


lol kitten move haha .
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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:42 AM

To be honest, it should be Naruto this time. It's us guys to do the confession. Why else in many media always show the guy pull the first move. Heck, the idea of marriage comes from us guys, not girls. I'm not that sure however, but in my experience, the guy usually does the move. I mean, I did it. Sure, I was scared if I was going to get friendzoned, but phew, I didn't. Case in point, Naruto is the only guy left to do the confession and while Sakura builds up her feelings, the anticipation just keeps growing.

 

Try not to forget that Naruto isn't real life. Whoever confesses first isn't gonna be because in normal situations this or that happens, it's going to be done according to how the story demands for it to happen.

 

That being said I do wish for Naruto to confess, I'm actually expecting him to in some shape or form, but I'm still trying to figure out how Sakura will fit in all of that. Is she just going to start fully loving Naruto just because he tells her how he feels? Is it that simple? Or is she going to reflect about what she feels for Naruto and Sasuke before coming to a final conclusion? Is that reflection going to happen before or after Naruto confesses?

 

Those are the questions that remain in my mind.

 

You know, I sometimes think that the resolution of Sakura's feelings is the biggest mystery the manga has to offer right now. Everything else seems like smooth sailing: defeating Obito, defeating Madara, Obito's redemption, Sasuke's confrontation and redemption. It feels like there's no doubt about those events going down, but when it comes to Sakura it still feels a little blurry as to what will be done with her.






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