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#11041 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:47 PM

So here's a question? What's the most obvious parallel right off the bat?

No i think Obi/Rin was first(correcting my statement).

 

Because Kushina didnt had a clarified personality when she first showed up, she looked a bit shy however but that was reasonable since she was pregnant and was being introduced to Jiraiya.(so it was embarassment at first).

When she was shown on the second time, Kishi worked on her character and when she hit Naruto there and was used to say ~tebane~ it got clear that he was inspired by Sakura to make Naruto's mother.


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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:53 PM

So here's a question? What's the most obvious parallel right off the bat?

 

Right off the bat? Probably I would say the Sannin and MinaKushi parallels are the strongest and most obvious, but all in all Kishimoto is pretty transparent with his parallels.



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:05 PM

So here's a question? What's the most obvious parallel right off the bat?

The sannins, because they are parallel in not only the love aspects, but in so many ways.


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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:04 PM

http://animagamefan....two-extra-pages

apparently two extra pages were added to chapter 627 by Kishimoto during Sasuke's answer, not sure if this has been brought upon already but can anyone please translate them?



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:05 PM

http://animagamefan....two-extra-pages
apparently two extra pages were added to chapter 627 by Kishimoto during Sasuke's answer, not sure if this has been brought upon already but can anyone please translate them?

Yeah, funny how it's trending now. But really, I need to know this now. Who knows, the backstab is in pending.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:09 PM

Yeah, funny how it's trending now. But really, I need to know this now. Who knows, the backstab is in pending.

I have no idea but on the next chapters specially 632 he says that he will erase his past by killing Naruto.

Maybe it will enforce the idea he will backstab rather than lessen the idea i guess.


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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:10 PM

Yeah, funny how it's trending now. But really, I need to know this now. Who knows, the backstab is in pending.

 

I'm honestly interested, it's probably more thinking back on Itachi's words but who knows...



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:12 PM

I have no idea but on the next chapters specially 632 he says that he will erase his past by killing Naruto.
Maybe it will enforce the idea he will backstab rather than lessen the idea i guess.

Yeah, a lot of signs point towards that Sasuke is still even with somewhat good intention heading to darkness. So time is clicking.

 
I'm honestly interested, it's probably more thinking back on Itachi's words but who knows...

If it's more of Itachi's words, then you know he's doing it because of him rather than learning.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:32 PM

Yeah, a lot of signs point towards that Sasuke is still even with somewhat good intention heading to darkness. So time is clicking.

If it's more of Itachi's words, then you know he's doing it because of him rather than learning.

I always think that it increased Sasuke's hatred rather than reason with him i mean his thought were all centered on Itachi with any flashbacks of team 7 or the village.

 

To all portugues speakers srsly narutoproject scan is 1000% better than mangareader and mangastream srsly.

 

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:20 AM

http://animagamefan....two-extra-pages

apparently two extra pages were added to chapter 627 by Kishimoto during Sasuke's answer, not sure if this has been brought upon already but can anyone please translate them?

 

 He's thinking about Itachi's last words.


 
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:33 AM

 

 He's thinking about Itachi's last words.

Well the words better be epic because the page visually said nothing. :glare:


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:39 AM

 

 He's thinking about Itachi's last words.

So that's it. Yeah, he didn't convert right.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:40 AM

Well the words better be epic because the page visually said nothing. :glare:

Well, it's not like a loss, just more.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:03 AM

 

Shikamaru begs to differ.

 

The "parallel" between Shikamaru and Tobirama was completely different from the actual parallels in the manga.  We were shown that Shikamaru was essentially going to take Tobirama's job, there was no build-up, no little details that were placed throughout the story and slowly revealed, it wasn't put in place to show the direction in which the story would be going (the direction in which Shikaramu and Naruto's relationship would be going or how that would affect the manga).  I wouldn't call it a parallel so much as it was that Shikamaru was inheriting Tobirama's legacy, Tobirama's will --and while those things are often related, they aren't always.  Using Sakura as an example, Sakura has been paralleled to both Tsunade and Kushina, but she is Tsunade's heir and isn't Kushina's (Naruto is Kushina's heir, just as he is Minato's).


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:11 AM

 
 He's thinking about Itachi's last words.

Yeah, if anyone is interested, here are the extra pages: 
627 extra pages
It comes right after this spread. In the volume, all the text of Sasuke remembering Itachi's final speech is removed from that spread and is added on the two new pages.

I just realised how weird Sasuke's face looks in that spread, actually. He looks like an ogre, lmao.

 
The "parallel" between Shikamaru and Tobirama was completely different from the other actual parallels in the manga.  We were shown that Shikamaru was essentially going to take Tobirama's job, there was no build-up, no little details that were placed throughout the story and slowly revealed.  I wouldn't call it a parallel so much as it was that Shikamaru was inheriting Tobirama's legacy --and while those things are often related, they aren't always.  Using Sakura as an example, Sakura has been paralleled to both Tsunade and Kushina, but she is Tsunade's heir and not Kushina's.

Exactly.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:14 AM

Oh ok. Bottom line, he's still a prick.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:30 AM

So here's a question? What's the most obvious parallel right off the bat?

 

You mean a romance parallel? To me it was ObiRin most definitely during Kakashi Gaiden. My instinct told me that we were supposed to look at Obito's regret of not confessing to Rin as a tragedy that Naruto was supposed to overcome by telling Sakura how he feels. Then comes chapter 599 and, lo and behold, that little tidbit about Obito's feelings for Rin is revealed as the catalyst for the events of the manga.

 

The reason I don't mention JiraTsu first is that, to be honest, I didn't realize Jiraiya was seriously in love with Tsunade until he flat out said it was a regret of his that she always rejected him. I was aware that Jiraiya found her attractive, but since he was a pervert I just brushed off his behavior towards Tsunade as how he behaves with those other girls we saw him with.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:48 AM

 

The "parallel" between Shikamaru and Tobirama was completely different from the actual parallels in the manga.  We were shown that Shikamaru was essentially going to take Tobirama's job, there was no build-up, no little details that were placed throughout the story and slowly revealed, it wasn't put in place to show the direction in which the story would be going (the direction in which Shikaramu and Naruto's relationship would be going or how that would affect the manga).  I wouldn't call it a parallel so much as it was that Shikamaru was inheriting Tobirama's legacy, Tobirama's will --and while those things are often related, they aren't always.  Using Sakura as an example, Sakura has been paralleled to both Tsunade and Kushina, but she is Tsunade's heir and isn't Kushina's (Naruto is Kushina's heir, just as he is Minato's).

 

Shikamaru has also been paralleled with his father and Asuma. and there is also his parents relationship paralleled to his relationship with Temari.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 04:41 AM

 

Shikamaru has also been paralleled with his father and Asuma. and there is also his parents relationship paralleled to his relationship with Temari.

 

I think that there's a bit of a difference between a comparison and an actual parallel.  One could argue that all of the non-Team 7 Konoha 11 (other than Tenten) have been compared to previous generations of their clan (or in the case of Lee, to his teacher), but the type of build-up and storytelling is very different when compared to the sort of actual parallelism used to tell Team 7's stories.  What do you mean that Shikamaru and Temari's relationship was "paralleled" with Shikamaru's parents?  When his father said that thing about tough women being tender with the men they love?  Or was there something else, because I don't know that that I'd consider that a parallel (so much as a general statement).  Though, I am curious as to where that relationship might be going.  I find it interesting that Kishimosto supposedly said he's not interested in writing a romance for Shikamaru, yet seems to often give Temari some sort of focus when Shikamaru is doing something praiseworthy.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 07:24 AM

 

You mean a romance parallel? To me it was ObiRin most definitely during Kakashi Gaiden. My instinct told me that we were supposed to look at Obito's regret of not confessing to Rin as a tragedy that Naruto was supposed to overcome by telling Sakura how he feels. Then comes chapter 599 and, lo and behold, that little tidbit about Obito's feelings for Rin is revealed as the catalyst for the events of the manga.

 

The reason I don't mention JiraTsu first is that, to be honest, I didn't realize Jiraiya was seriously in love with Tsunade until he flat out said it was a regret of his that she always rejected him. I was aware that Jiraiya found her attractive, but since he was a pervert I just brushed off his behavior towards Tsunade as how he behaves with those other girls we saw him with.

Well in general parallel, but this is good.

 

That is true about Jiraiya because I was in the same impression too, though I would admit back in part 1, I would have like them to be together somewhere in the story, but behold, I wasn't far fetched on the idea. It didn't happen, but the possibility was there, not a crack one. It goes to show you that a man can mess around a lot, but there's always one that is irreplaceable.






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