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#11001 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 03:25 AM

The thing that pisses me off the most is all the development NS had and for what ?  I mean why go through all the trouble if you're never gonna make it canon. The multiple parallels, Yamato's unfinished sentence, Sakura blushing and saying "this is Naruto... What's this feeling ?" (in chapter 3), the hug after the pain fight, Naruto's answer to Minato's "are you Naruto's girlfriend ?", Having Minato actually confirm the Kushina-Sakura parallel, the CPR scene.

 

Also Kakashi commenting on Sakura's feelings for Sasuke: "And Sakura i reckon your feelings towards Sasuke have changed since that time. Even IF you still like him it's probably a different feeling."

 

This was like near the very end of the manga. Why did he have to put that in ? To throw us off ? He didn't need to. The lack of development between NH and SS was more then enough.

 

I feel cheated. Trolled. I'm pissed at Kishimoto.

 

And he can go shove that movie up his...

Saw the trailer and already know how it's gonna go. Random villain pops up. Massive NH interaction. then Naruto "realizes" that he always loved Hinata, asspulls flashback to make it seem like Naruto's "love for Hinata" actually has depth and wasn't just completely asspulled.

Everything has been altered at the final minute.



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 03:27 AM

Naruto did not kittening love Hinata!!! All his childhood flashbacks in the manga were either about the village or his rivalry with Sasuke. The only girl he showed interest in as a kid was Sakura not counting porn mags or random chicks.
If he loved Hinata so much as a child..why did he ignore her for 98% of the series? It's makes no freakin sense! Hinata is not the one that Sai knew Naruto loved.
Just..ugh... >.< Might as well make a romance of how Choji and Karui came together.

Edited by Aizen-Sama, 10 November 2014 - 03:28 AM.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 03:39 AM

Everything has been altered at the final minute.

Yeah seems like the only explanation that makes any sense but i'm left wondering, why ? Hope i get my answer someday.

 

 

But didn't people say Kishi has been working on the "Last" movie for like 2 years ?

I mean he couldn't have altered it at the last minute if that's true ?


Edited by narusakufan122, 10 November 2014 - 03:40 AM.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 03:45 AM

Yeah seems like the only explanation that makes any sense but i'm left wondering, why ? Hope i get my answer someday.

 

 

But didn't people say Kishi has been working on the "Last" movie for like 2 years ?

I mean he couldn't have altered it at the last minute if that's true ?

That's not truly clear. The movie could have been anything for 2 years. It seems like this year, it was made. Trust me when I say this: we were never misled.



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 03:57 AM

Naruto did not kittening love Hinata!!! All his childhood flashbacks in the manga were either about the village or his rivalry with Sasuke. The only girl he showed interest in as a kid was Sakura not counting porn mags or random chicks.
If he loved Hinata so much as a child..why did he ignore her for 98% of the series? It's makes no freakin sense! Hinata is not the one that Sai knew Naruto loved.
Just..ugh... >.< Might as well make a romance of how Choji and Karui came together.

 

Sai also knew Sakura's smile to Sasuke was fake, and showed distrust. Kishi contradicted both of their characters and their feelings in just two chapters and a movie -_-


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:01 AM

 

Sai also knew Sakura's smile to Sasuke was fake, and showed distrust. Kishi contradicted both of their characters and their feelings in just two chapters and a movie -_-

Did you see my post on the movie back at the chapter?



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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:09 AM

The only thing that makes sense to me is it was all done for part 3. Movie is for how nh happens and move onto the kids. It's a bridge to part 3.

You know they didn't want any of the 11 to be irrelevant. That is the only reason for ss, nh, and the whack pairings. It's all for money.

I think they only care about part 3 now.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:12 AM

The movie to end it all... Literally, the walls will come crashing down. Watching a full movie of OCC Naruto and Sakura... Should be fantastic *sarcasm. Only way I watch this is if I get to watch the real final movie Road To Ninja afterwards

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:12 AM

The only thing that makes sense to me is it was all done for part 3. Movie is for how nh happens and move onto the kids. It's a bridge to part 3.

You know they didn't want any of the 11 to be irrelevant. That is the only reason for ss, nh, and the whack pairings. It's all for money.

I think they only care about part 3 now.

That's the sad part. That's the impression they gave now to millions, true or false. It's a "You sold out" moment.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:17 AM

The only thing that makes sense to me is it was all done for part 3. Movie is for how nh happens and move onto the kids. It's a bridge to part 3.
You know they didn't want any of the 11 to be irrelevant. That is the only reason for ss, nh, and the whack pairings. It's all for money.
I think they only care about part 3 now.

And even then it's a stupid way if they thought that... Naruto could have easily had a kid with Sakura, Sasuke with Karin, and Hinata with with either Kiba or some random Hyuga member. It wouldn't have hurt the future at all, in fact then the characters could have been properly portrayed in character

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:21 AM

Naruto did not kittening love Hinata!!! All his childhood flashbacks in the manga were either about the village or his rivalry with Sasuke. The only girl he showed interest in as a kid was Sakura not counting porn mags or random chicks.
If he loved Hinata so much as a child..why did he ignore her for 98% of the series? It's makes no freakin sense! Hinata is not the one that Sai knew Naruto loved.
Just..ugh... >.< Might as well make a romance of how Choji and Karui came together.

 

 

On top of that they showed the damn scarf in a flashback scene which makes no kittening sense whatsoever. If it was suppose to be this important, then why wasn't this brought into the manga?

 

I'm bringing a logical statement here, think about it this scarf was never mentioned or shown in the manga what so ever. Which is why I believe that this whole scarf situation came up for this movie only. I mean let's make this simple maybe in part 1 Hinata could've went back home opened her closet found a box, and looked at a scarf then sighed and put it away. That would've made this whole scarf situation more reasonable. 


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:23 AM

That's the sad part. That's the impression they gave now to millions, true or false. It's a "You sold out" moment.


I thought there was only to be one pairing at the end? Now everyone is paired.

I don't think SJ wanted to lose one of their big 3. They are milking this.

I thought naruto was supposed to follow the jiraiya's book?

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:25 AM

I thought there was only to be one pairing at the end? Now everyone is paired.

I don't think SJ wanted to lose one of their big 3. They are milking this.

I thought naruto was supposed to follow the jiraiya's book?

It was. But once again, something happened and the ending is not what you was expecting because things changed, for the worst in this case. The ending don't feel like an end. It feels like an intro, not what you want to do. Lastly, the moral was never addressed.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:26 AM

I thought there was only to be one pairing at the end? Now everyone is paired.

I don't think SJ wanted to lose one of their big 3. They are milking this.

I thought naruto was supposed to follow the jiraiya's book?

That's what I always said: he didn't say "one pairing" but "at least one pairing" which changes the all deal. 

 

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Main title of the picture: "Establishment/task of all the loves, in The Last it is dedicated to this way of ninja."

 

 

A better translation but a little far away from the original text: "The Last is dedicated to the way of ninja by taking care of all the loves."

 

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The Last is not the end, it's an introduction to a new way/road.

 

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Naruto is a textbook for life!

 

During 15 yars, we all grew up together!


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:29 AM

And even then it's a stupid way if they thought that... Naruto could have easily had a kid with Sakura, Sasuke with Karin, and Hinata with with either Kiba or some random Hyuga member. It wouldn't have hurt the future at all, in fact then the characters could have been properly portrayed in character


I think they wanted it to be mostly k11. I agree. Karin would keep sasuke in line and same with sakura with naruto. Naruto and sasuke could get together to complain about their wives.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:34 AM

SS should've never happened.

I think his pair was NS.

Most likely, but something happened.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:36 AM

That's what I always said: he didn't say "one pairing" but "at least one pairing" which changes the all deal. 
 
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At least one. He had in mind one pairing. I think it was ns.

Who do you think that pairing was?

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:43 AM

At least one. He had in mind one pairing. I think it was ns.

Who do you think that pairing was?

Well obviously NH since it's the hero's love story. I also thought it was NS and maybe some extra like ShikaTema or SK. But now I think he meant NH, especially with the "me too" when he was asked "I hope Hinata has her chances" just after that. 

Now I know some of you could reply "but if he meant to make NH canon why no develop it?" but I won't go further on the matter, I don't want to create a conflict, if someone want to ask me why my opinion has change, that person can PM me, but I won't do a rant as to why NH/SS is as normal as NS to me, because I'll be accused of having jumped ship which is false. 


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:53 AM

Kishi said he knew how Naruto would end years ago.  So NH was probably always his plan unfortunately.

 

Wait with that new poster... it says The Last = 699.5... is this a chapter?


NARUTO X SAKURA


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:56 AM

Kishi said he knew how Naruto would end years ago.  So NH was probably always his plan unfortunately.

 

Wait with that new poster... it says The Last = 699.5... is this a chapter?

It means that the movie equals to the chapter 699,5, meaning that the story of The Last is placed between 699 and 700. That's to say if The Last was a chapter and not a movie it would be 699,5. LOL Was I clear (I think I wasn't)?


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