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#10981 Phantom_999

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:18 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Feb 21 2013, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's the same as saying it would be disappointing if Naruto doesn't love Hinata after all she went through to show him how much she loves him. What would be disappointing if Sakura doesn't fall in love with Naruto is that the confession would turn out to be a 100% lie, other than that she's not bound to love him.


That's from an NH point of view. I will admit that it is true, and would care if I were an NH but I'm not. Besides The depth of Hinata's love is not necessarily significant compared to what Naruto shows for Sakura. Naruto has been spending all that time bottling up his own feelings and suffering in silence for Sakura, giving up his own happiness, and hiding his pain with a smile so that Sakura would get her wish. On the other hand Hinata is was confessing her love because she was doing what Naruto told her not to do. Interfere and nearly getting herself killed. Selfless but selfish at the same time. plus she admits she was thinking of herself. I would criticize Sakura if she did the same too. Plus what her love amounts to is no different than what Sakura had for Sasuke in part one; a boy she is attracted to on the surface. Naruto represents what Hinata wants to be but is not; confident. She sees what she wants to be, but does not understand Naruto's pain, nor does anything in the manga canon indicate otherwise. Compare and contrast to Sakura and you have your difference. Sakura knows Naruto and is is his closest friend and sees the real him; Hinata is a secret admirer that only knows him in appearance but at the same time does not truly know his character, so can profess she loves him but that is not true love.

Edited by Phantom_999, 22 February 2013 - 06:18 AM.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:19 PM

Well it's not like Sakura recapped her relationship with Naruto to understand her feelings. She was in pain that she believed that she hurt Naruto the most. Her main priority was to save Naruto at all cost. There's no time to think love. Her love for Sasuke was coming back and hurt her more because Sasuke is not what she was hoping for. Now, it's officially in negative light. The problem (not really) is that no one is talking to her about love. Lover nin was the closest you can get and bam, we saw her current status for Sasuke. If there was someone to talk to about love, she could have gotten a solution by now. Ino got her father to tell her what's truly important. Sakura has none. Only Naruto can help. After all, he is Naruto.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:08 PM

I just really...REALLY hope that the confession doesn't turn out to be a lie in the end. If she stays loving Sasuke and rejects Naruto, then that would be the point i lose all respect for Sakura not because of SS the paring but more the fact she never matured to see how evil and messed up Sasuke is.

She really does need some attention because we are getting nothing but Hinata moments atm. Hell, even Ino has had a little something.

Edited by HauntedCake, 21 February 2013 - 06:10 PM.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:12 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Feb 21 2013, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well it's not like Sakura recapped her relationship with Naruto to understand her feelings. She was in pain that she believed that she hurt Naruto the most. Her main priority was to save Naruto at all cost. There's no time to think love. Her love for Sasuke was coming back and hurt her more because Sasuke is not what she was hoping for. Now, it's officially in negative light. The problem (not really) is that no one is talking to her about love. Lover nin was the closest you can get and bam, we saw her current status for Sasuke. If there was someone to talk to about love, she could have gotten a solution by now. Ino got her father to tell her what's truly important. Sakura has none. Only Naruto can help. After all, he is Naruto.


Tsunade was probably also confused about her feelings for Jiraya , because of her suffering over her losses , just like Sakura is confused because of her still lingering feelings for Sasuke . It took Jiraya going on his last mission from which she knew he may not return , to make her realize that she loves him , and decide to be with him if he comes back . So if Sakura is with the Kages now , Tsunade could be someone to help Sakura with the bolded and make her realize what is truly important .

I believe Naruto's love for Sakura will never change and if he will not be with her in the end , no matter the reason , he would remain a loner like Jiraya . Even if he began to have some feelings for Hinata, he will never love her as much . And Naruto is the kind of person that would consider it unfair for Hinata to be with him while he can not give her all his love .

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:20 PM

QUOTE (narusakurama @ Feb 21 2013, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tsunade was probably also confused about her feelings for Jiraya , because of her suffering over her losses , just like Sakura is confused because of her still lingering feelings for Sasuke . It took Jiraya going on his last mission from which she knew he may not return , to make her realize that she loves him , and decide to be with him if he comes back . So if Sakura is with the Kages now , Tsunade could be someone to help Sakura with the bolded and make her realize what is truly important .

I believe Naruto's love for Sakura will never change and if he will not be with her in the end , no matter the reason , he would remain a loner like Jiraya . Even if he began to have some feelings for Hinata, he will never love her as much . And Naruto is the kind of person that would consider it unfair for Hinata to be with him while he can not give her all his love .

That's right. If Naruto ever won't be with Sakura ( though that won't happen tongue.gif ), he'll remain single. He won't love anybody else, at least a real love.

Edited by T XD, 21 February 2013 - 06:25 PM.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:28 PM

QUOTE (narusakurama @ Feb 22 2013, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tsunade was probably also confused about her feelings for Jiraya , because of her suffering over her losses , just like Sakura is confused because of her still lingering feelings for Sasuke . It took Jiraya going on his last mission from which she knew he may not return , to make her realize that she loves him , and decide to be with him if he comes back . So if Sakura is with the Kages now , Tsunade could be someone to help Sakura with the bolded and make her realize what is truly important .

I believe Naruto's love for Sakura will never change and if he will not be with her in the end , no matter the reason , he would remain a loner like Jiraya . Even if he began to have some feelings for Hinata, he will never love her as much . And Naruto is the kind of person that would consider it unfair for Hinata to be with him while he can not give her all his love .


I agree it would be good for sakura development if she reserved summon(with assumption she has summon contract) to get tsunade last word.

All boy's unrequited love have the same situation when the girl realize something(love) but it's too late.
In this case obito and jiraiya. When obito smash by rock and kakashi rejection, rin look at the starry sky(it's reminence scene for me). Just like tsunade when jiraiya dead. I hope sakura don't need to be in the same situation

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE (rocci @ Feb 21 2013, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree it would be good for sakura development if she reserved summon(with assumption she has summon contract) to get tsunade last word.

All boy's unrequited love have the same situation when the girl realize something(love) but it's too late.
In this case obito and jiraiya. When obito smash by rock and kakashi rejection, rin look at the starry sky(it's reminence scene for me). Just like tsunade when jiraiya dead. I hope sakura don't need to be in the same situation

Would be weird if she knew how to summon the slugs while she didnt summoned a single on on this arc and on the entire series i prefer after Tsunade's death Katsuy takes her to train on the "forest of the humid bones" the downside is that kishi will continue delaying an interaction between Naruto and Sakura.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:22 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Feb 21 2013, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just really...REALLY hope that the confession doesn't turn out to be a lie in the end. If she stays loving Sasuke and rejects Naruto, then that would be the point i lose all respect for Sakura not because of SS the paring but more the fact she never matured to see how evil and messed up Sasuke is.

She really does need some attention because we are getting nothing but Hinata moments atm. Hell, even Ino has had a little something.


I think Sakura understands how f**cked up Sasuke is, pardon my French. She clearly saw it when she met him at Kage Summit, and recognizing his dissent lead her to break down crying. It is possible to still have feelings for someone despite knowing their nature, and its probably the case for Sakura.

It was a lousy confession. Whether she's confused over her feelings or not I'm of the opinion that 469 was BS. I wouldn't be disappointed to know that it was an entire lie; its still possible for her to reconsider her feelings after all. Just in that moment I doubt she was in love with Naruto , or at least she didn't have romantic feelings that were deep enough to label love, which is the reason her announcement came off the way it did - not genuine.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:32 PM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Feb 21 2013, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Sakura understands how f**cked up Sasuke is, pardon my French. She clearly saw it when she met him at Kage Summit, and recognizing his dissent lead her to break down crying. It is possible to still have feelings for someone despite knowing their nature, and its probably the case for Sakura.

It was a lousy confession. Whether she's confused over her feelings or not I'm of the opinion that 469 was BS. I wouldn't be disappointed to know that it was an entire lie; its still possible for her to reconsider her feelings after all. Just in that moment I doubt she was in love with Naruto , or at least she didn't have romantic feelings that were deep enough to label love, which is the reason her announcement came off the way it did - not genuine.

Although if Sakura consciously knew that she didn't love Naruto that would make her defense of the confession look rather... kittenish.

At the very least I think she convinced herself that she was in love with Naruto despite still feeling unsure about it.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:36 PM

You whats funny, if you just sit back and read the manga/watch the show you will realize that all signs point towards Narusaku. I mean for starters NAruto loves Sakura, there is not getting around that. Then Naruto is the main character, he spends most of time with Sakura, Naruto is the man and is supposed to persevere and get what he deserves. Then there's all the moments in play sight. Like the Hug or even the fact that other notice and comment on it like Yamato, Kakashi, Lee, and Sai. Also all the parallels like jeez Idk Naruto's mother hair PINK! Lol. Also the way Minato saved Kushina (they're married obv) is the same way Naruto saved Sakura, you just dont do something like that for Sh*ts. All the other parallels are failed versions so of course the story we see should be the closest thing to perfect.

Also just wondering, but you know when Sakura thinks of Naruto at night in her room, was that filler?

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE (bthug @ Feb 21 2013, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also just wondering, but you know when Sakura thinks of Naruto at night in her room, was that filler?

Yes. In the manga she was thinking of Team 7 but not Naruto in particular like in the anime.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:58 PM

QUOTE (bthug @ Feb 21 2013, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also just wondering, but you know when Sakura thinks of Naruto at night in her room, was that filler?


That does show in the manga , but it's just shows Sakura looking at the team7 picture and a tear on her face ... no mention of who or what she is thinking . Then Naruto sees the shooting star .

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:01 PM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Feb 21 2013, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes. In the manga she was thinking of Team 7 but not Naruto in particular like in the anime.

Pretty much she missed Team 7 old days and Naruto watches the shooting star. Bonus from anime is Naruto carried all Sakura's notes with him at all time.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:04 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Feb 22 2013, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretty much she missed Team 7 old days and Naruto watches the shooting star. Bonus from anime is Naruto carried all Sakura's notes with him at all time.


Yeah but the anime added Sakura thinking of Yamato's comment I think, so that made it more NS than just Team 7 as it was in the manga.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:10 PM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Feb 21 2013, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah but the anime added Sakura thinking of Yamato's comment I think, so that made it more NS than just Team 7 as it was in the manga.

Oh yeah, that's right. It's like a battle of confusion in her feelings. It was...shocking for anime to do that, let alone how much they changed Naruto's training with Sakura supporting her all the way, not that I'm complaining. My favorite anime scene is when Naruto trained hard during the rain and Sakura watches him without worrying about herself getting sick. Yeah, anime sure got me thinking when I saw those moments.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:46 PM

Yea that whole training montage really got me going for Narusaku. Its a shame its seems like it was mostly in the anime. Sakura watching him in the rain, bringing him food, writing him notes, thinking/supporting him, thinking of him in the room...Naruto eating her food no matter how bad, carrying her notes, and the shooting star.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:23 AM

QUOTE (bthug @ Feb 21 2013, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea that whole training montage really got me going for Narusaku. Its a shame its seems like it was mostly in the anime. Sakura watching him in the rain, bringing him food, writing him notes, thinking/supporting him, thinking of him in the room...Naruto eating her food no matter how bad, carrying her notes, and the shooting star.

The shooting star is canon. Just not the rest. It does makes you wonder why anime did that.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 22 February 2013 - 12:23 AM.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:54 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Feb 21 2013, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The shooting star is canon. Just not the rest. It does makes you wonder why anime did that.


Either they know something we don't.......
Or are a bunch bias idiots.
Either answer wouldn't really surprise me.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:56 AM

I wonder if when they do something like that, if they have to get like clearance from Kishi

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:58 AM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Feb 21 2013, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Either they know something we don't.......
Or are a bunch bias idiots.
Either answer wouldn't really surprise me.

Lol that's true. Oh well, good for us.

That's a good question. I remember the interview said that they're making sure the anime is connected to the manga or something like that. Either way, the fact they supported NS heavily is a nice thing. Yeah, we get Hinata being over character, but whatever, she's like create-a-character character.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 22 February 2013 - 01:00 AM.





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