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QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Jan 27 2013, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I understand, trust me, I understand the frustration surrounding Sakura's character, but posting those frustrations here only spread even more discontent and frustration. That causes even more frustration on those who're generally chill with anything that goes on in the manga (like those 'be patient' types that post 'be patient,' I'd do it too, but that'd cause more frustration). Really, if you'd seen me when Harry Potter Book 6 came out, I was the same. But, we all gotta remember it's' not the end of the world and that it's all... Fictional. No amount of complaining will change how Kishi dictates his plot, so it's useless to complain about it. I learned all of that from my days of being in the HP fandom.
If you're all frustrated about it, go write a 'fix-fic,' preferably using the idea I mentioned in the 615 thread (shameless plug-in
) or go do something else like play a game, breathe in and out, punch a punching bag, etc. Don't cry about how Kishi betrayed you because nothing went the way you expected it (Yes, I remember someone posting that they did exactly that in the 615 thread. Sorry about calling that person out, but it made me roll my eyes in disbelief). Sorry about the belligerent tone, but that's how I see it.
Remember, Keep Calm and Remember it's all Fictional.
As if this word hasn't popped up enough in this post: FRUSTRATION!
If you're all frustrated about it, go write a 'fix-fic,' preferably using the idea I mentioned in the 615 thread (shameless plug-in
) or go do something else like play a game, breathe in and out, punch a punching bag, etc. Don't cry about how Kishi betrayed you because nothing went the way you expected it (Yes, I remember someone posting that they did exactly that in the 615 thread. Sorry about calling that person out, but it made me roll my eyes in disbelief). Sorry about the belligerent tone, but that's how I see it.Remember, Keep Calm and Remember it's all Fictional.
As if this word hasn't popped up enough in this post: FRUSTRATION!
QUOTE (KnS @ Jan 27 2013, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've already explained my view on how this could make sense, and I'm sorry but I'm not willing to go over it again.
Likewise, I've already explained my view on how this could make sense, and I'm not willing to go over it again.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but I do not share it. I find it disappointing that theories and speculations cannot be discussed on this board without being labeled "pathetic excuses."
But I was speculating on possible development for Sakura. That's the point. If Tsunade were to die, and Sakura were to be involved in that resolution, it would be nothing but development for Sakura.
And while I certainly don't mean any disrespect to you or Redragon88, I don't agree that Sakura standing up for Naruto's dream is the best we can hope for her character. She's already done that, time and again -- so much so that it seems cliché at this point. We already know she supports Naruto's dream, and that if the circumstances call for it she would publicly support and defend him and his dreams to the death. We already know all that.
Nevertheless, I agree it's highly possible it could happen just as Redragon88 said. But I personally don't want that to be the sum total of Sakura's development -- being Naruto's greatest cheerleader. I would prefer to see her have something of her own as well, something befitting the third member of Team 7. Naruto reminded Sasuke that Sakura was an equal member of the team, so why shouldn't she have development that is separate from them just as they have had development that is separate from her?
As for the bolded, the part about the chances for Sakura development seeming small, I don't agree. But then I do not share the hypercritical attitude and negativity that seems to be so pervasive these days. For whatever reason, I'm still able to enjoy the story as it written, and don't have set expectations that compel me to prejudge Kishimoto as a failure if he doesn't meet them on a chapter-by-chapter basis. I guess I'm lucky.
I don't think Sakura needs to dwarf Hinata's speech in 615, especially not by forcing her to compete by giving a "bigger and better" speech. As far as I'm concerned, Sakura already dwarfs Hinata in every possible way, and I do not view Sakura's development through the prism of how she compares to Hinata. "Sakura is not Hinata."
Sakura may very well give a heartfelt, supportive speech about Naruto, but if that's all she does -- if that's all she's expected to be capable of doing to positively contribute to the complex events of the story -- I think that's just as patronizing and limiting to her character as what so many are accusing Kishimoto of doing to her. Just my opinion.
Yes. If fans find themselves consumed by a relentlessly unfavorable opinion, then it seems logical to either stop reading the story or take a refreshing break from it. I know misery loves company, but other than some initial relief from venting it's not very productive. But that's just my opinion too.
Likewise, I've already explained my view on how this could make sense, and I'm not willing to go over it again.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but I do not share it. I find it disappointing that theories and speculations cannot be discussed on this board without being labeled "pathetic excuses."
But I was speculating on possible development for Sakura. That's the point. If Tsunade were to die, and Sakura were to be involved in that resolution, it would be nothing but development for Sakura.
And while I certainly don't mean any disrespect to you or Redragon88, I don't agree that Sakura standing up for Naruto's dream is the best we can hope for her character. She's already done that, time and again -- so much so that it seems cliché at this point. We already know she supports Naruto's dream, and that if the circumstances call for it she would publicly support and defend him and his dreams to the death. We already know all that.
Nevertheless, I agree it's highly possible it could happen just as Redragon88 said. But I personally don't want that to be the sum total of Sakura's development -- being Naruto's greatest cheerleader. I would prefer to see her have something of her own as well, something befitting the third member of Team 7. Naruto reminded Sasuke that Sakura was an equal member of the team, so why shouldn't she have development that is separate from them just as they have had development that is separate from her?
As for the bolded, the part about the chances for Sakura development seeming small, I don't agree. But then I do not share the hypercritical attitude and negativity that seems to be so pervasive these days. For whatever reason, I'm still able to enjoy the story as it written, and don't have set expectations that compel me to prejudge Kishimoto as a failure if he doesn't meet them on a chapter-by-chapter basis. I guess I'm lucky.
I don't think Sakura needs to dwarf Hinata's speech in 615, especially not by forcing her to compete by giving a "bigger and better" speech. As far as I'm concerned, Sakura already dwarfs Hinata in every possible way, and I do not view Sakura's development through the prism of how she compares to Hinata. "Sakura is not Hinata."
Sakura may very well give a heartfelt, supportive speech about Naruto, but if that's all she does -- if that's all she's expected to be capable of doing to positively contribute to the complex events of the story -- I think that's just as patronizing and limiting to her character as what so many are accusing Kishimoto of doing to her. Just my opinion.
Yes. If fans find themselves consumed by a relentlessly unfavorable opinion, then it seems logical to either stop reading the story or take a refreshing break from it. I know misery loves company, but other than some initial relief from venting it's not very productive. But that's just my opinion too.
Amen to both of these post.
So far it seems that when thing aren't going the way some always wanted we get to see some peoples true colors.
There is something we need to understand, not because NaruSaku have the biggest development it most or it will happen, or Sakura most have the development we Sakura fans want her to have, Kishi is not obligated or forced to do anything for a character or the fans, if there is a point where we don't understand him anymore or our patience reach to his maximum limit, the most we can do is stop reading his Manga nothing else. Complaining will not change the direction of the Manga, plus not everyone wants to complain or see a need to do so.
For now the only thing we can do is have patience and hope that something good might happen with the characters we support.
