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#10941 PhenixElite

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:51 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Feb 20 2013, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah i guess so.. biggrin.gif

BTW: which anime episode has the part where Sakura dives off Sai's bird and smashes Naruto into the ground??

I dont know the chapter but its in the filler arc where they try to seal the sanbi.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:41 PM

Wow. Finally read the post from xxRomanceGirlxx and I got to say, I really wish you was in a podcast. You really know what to say and really hit it in a critical spot. Thank you. smile.gif

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:18 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Feb 19 2013, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just saying databook 3.
Its already clear that sakura has romantic feelings for naruto, no need to discuss that anymore.


This^ we already know she has feelings for Naruto her confession was honest. I really hope Kishi does redo her confession so he can finally shut the mouth of NH and SS fans and other fans who are still saying she was lying. dry.gif
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#10944 HauntedCake

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 20 2013, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This^ we already know she has feelings for Naruto her confession was honest. I really hope Kishi does redo her confession so he can finally shut the mouth of NH and SS fans and other fans who are still saying she was lying. dry.gif


What say's that her confession was true?? curious that's all

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:28 PM

Remember that new book that somebody posted somewhere here a few days ago??

Here's some new info:

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Why has NARUTO become so special globally?
Perhaps that it is a manga about ninjas is one reason, but the greatest secret to its global success is the “kizuna" (bond) which ties the characters, whether friend or foe.
As a compilation of selected famous scenes and lines together with the English translation, this is the go-to book to devour the appeal and fascinating world of NARUTO for fans, as well as new fans all around the world.
The content of the book surely meets the expectations of manga fans, but it also serves as a good source of reference for those interested of world culture theories.
“Chinomaki" includes a discussion about the “NARUTO" boom in France and across Europe by Mr. Frédéric Toutlemonde, Editor in chief of Euromanga, and the second half of the exclusive interview with Masashi Kishimoto.


Source comes from here: http://narutoworldbr...logspot.com.br/

Interesting. And since it delves deeper into the mythologies and cultures Naruto is based on, I'd definitely love to read it. It's one of my favorite things to read. Sooo..... anybody willing to order it?? unsure.gif

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:39 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Feb 20 2013, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Remember that new book that somebody posted somewhere here a few days ago??

Here's some new info:



Source comes from here: http://narutoworldbr...logspot.com.br/

Interesting. And since it delves deeper into the mythologies and cultures Naruto is based on, I'd definitely love to read it. It's one of my favorite things to read. Sooo..... anybody willing to order it?? unsure.gif

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:49 PM

QUOTE (neoshadow @ Feb 12 2013, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I totally agree but to be fair Itachi may be more popular but he was also a villain when he died and his death was the goal of the deuteragonist. after death he moved into a more gray area to make him more sympathetic but he really had to die again for development of Sasuke. Sakura may not be the most popular character in Japan but she is still near the top (tied with Sai for 12th I believe) and is the 2nd most popular female after Hinata in 10th so she does have a pretty sizeable fanbase, coupled with the fact that shes the heroine I could see fans being enraged at her possible death.

If this is true it really just seems like being dark and edgy for the sake of it, its pointless tragedy injected just for shock value. If it was handled something like Minato and Kushina tragic for a reason or even Shikaku it could work but this it sounds worse than Neji's.

Actually no, sakura is the most popular character, with a total poll of 11, 505 votes adding up with the latest poll, whilst hinata only had 9, thousand and something, thats nothing compared to the other top ten, she ain't even in the top ten!!

Also about the sakura death rumor, im not buying it.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:55 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Feb 20 2013, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually no, sakura is the most popular character, with a total poll of 11, 505 votes adding up with the latest poll, whilst hinata only had 9, thousand and something, thats nothing compared to the other top ten, she ain't even in the top ten!!

Also about the sakura death rumor, im not buying it.

Ofc is not going to happen the best way would be her dying for Naruto to understand Obito then he sacrifices himself and and revives her.
but no the kages are going to join the battle, and it's most probably that Hashirama is going to do something about the Juubi and undo the binding bringing back all the other bijuus they all turn against Madara and Obito, Hashimara makes Madara see that he's wrong and Obito realizes that "friendship is magic".
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#10949 HauntedCake

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:28 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Feb 20 2013, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also about the sakura death rumor, im not buying it.

Wait what??? who said that she might be dying? (i know it's only a rumor but im curious)

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Feb 20 2013, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wait what??? who said that she might be dying? (i know it's only a rumor but im curious)

It was an old rumor that has been shut down a while back. It's false, but sure got people going. laugh.gif

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:11 PM

So regarding my question, I don't like the fact that just because Naruto or maybe Sakura die then at least that means no NH or SS. BUT I will say that I do buy the fact that Naruto is a shonen for kids and hopefully it will have a good ending. Not to mention that all the parallels kind of show how everyone else failed, but Naruto and his gen will pull through.

AHHHHH I kinda wish Naruto was just a romantic anime/manga so i could get more Narusaku, but it kind of is, well its heavily connected at least with all the other characters and parallels. Also now that I think of it, I would say that every time Sakura hits Naruto its a Narusaku moment cause shes not hitting him to fight him/ or cause she hates him lol. Its like real life when girls playfully jab/hit you...not that thats happens a lot to me sad.gif

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:40 PM

QUOTE (bthug @ Feb 20 2013, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So regarding my question, I don't like the fact that just because Naruto or maybe Sakura die then at least that means no NH or SS. BUT I will say that I do buy the fact that Naruto is a shonen for kids and hopefully it will have a good ending. Not to mention that all the parallels kind of show how everyone else failed, but Naruto and his gen will pull through.

AHHHHH I kinda wish Naruto was just a romantic anime/manga so i could get more Narusaku, but it kind of is, well its heavily connected at least with all the other characters and parallels. Also now that I think of it, I would say that every time Sakura hits Naruto its a Narusaku moment cause shes not hitting him to fight him/ or cause she hates him lol. Its like real life when girls playfully jab/hit you...not that thats happens a lot to me sad.gif

Bolded: No, you don't. If Naruto was a shoujo, we'd be dealing with all sorts of roadblocks meant to make it seem like he and Sakura aren't going to be together. That's what happens in shoujo manga all of the time. The girl and/or guy has a crush, they struggle to tell each other how they feel, usually a love rival enters the scene and X amount of chapters later loses to the main hero/heroine, the hero and heroine end up getting together, there are anxious feelings at the start of their relationship but after a really long time they work through them, then more rivals show up and try to break up the couple, etc, etc... Typically, it's an absolute headache until the end of the series, when they finally get a happily ever after.

I much prefer Naruto just how it is. The romance is subtle, but it's just enough for me. I actually like that love isn't the only thing that the characters focus on. It adds so much more substance to the story. smile.gif

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:58 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Feb 20 2013, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What say's that her confession was true?? curious that's all


The truth of her confession lies in her words, and their context which if you read carefully through them are all true.

She loves him - truth, over a long period from chapter 3 onward she has shown steadily growing feelings for Naruto.

Hes always been there for her, always supported her - truth she acknowledges all the contributions naruto ahs made for her.

She says she cant continue to love someone whos a criminal - truth she has grown and changed beyond her shallow crush


Narutos presnece in her heart is greater - also truth its been shown in a clear progression of feelings for her.

where Sakura does not lie but attempts to deflect or obfuscate is in regards to her having let all feelings for sasuke go-- this is partly untrue and partly a deflection as she tries to hide the truth from naruto regarding the rookies decision about Sasuke.

This was the sum total of what she actually lied about and it was only a lie of obfuscation where she hid the truth from him in order to protect him.

the end result is that Sakura was truthful in her confession--Kishimoto sensei wrote --I thought i wrote a suprisingly determined and honest girl--confirming this.

She intended to ease his burden in several ways by no longer doing the minor things. Instead this time she would take the heavy burden, she would kill her heart and kill the one she loved, and bear Narutos hatred forever and the pain of losing lim and any chance he would ever love her.

This is why her confession was genuine and selfless, she intended to give up any chance of having Narutos love and if needed die knowing Naruto would hate her forever because she killed his best friend.
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#10954 Qia

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:10 PM

Okay...I could be really off with this but: Here and then here.

Okay...I could be realllly reaching here, but with the way the first page transitions into the second page...do you think Sakura was already told by Yamato what he was about to say and that Kishi just didn't show it? Because there isn't really any indication given that she'd turned away from Yamato, unless you want to consider the way the anime does it (although, it won't be the first time they added in something that wasn't shown in the manga). Like I said....I could be reaching with this, but I wanted to bring it up anyway. unsure.gif This would support the idea of her confession being genuine and simply done at the wrong time or for another reason other than what she actually does feel for Naruto. But...thoughts? sweatdrop.gif

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:17 PM

QUOTE (Qia @ Feb 20 2013, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay...I could be really off with this but: Here and then here.

Okay...I could be realllly reaching here, but with the way the first page transitions into the second page...do you think Sakura was already told by Yamato what he was about to say and that Kishi just didn't show it? Because there isn't really any indication given that she'd turned away from Yamato, unless you want to consider the way the anime does it (although, it won't be the first time they added in something that wasn't shown in the manga). Like I said....I could be reaching with this, but I wanted to bring it up anyway. unsure.gif This would support the idea of her confession being genuine and simply done at the wrong time or for another reason other than what she actually does feel for Naruto. But...thoughts? sweatdrop.gif

I don't think so because then Kishi has to show us this scene again, to assure us that it happened that way.

Because of the speechbubbles "!", I think they were interrupted. I like the suspense here. But I don't get why this would support her confession? It already looked like from her reaction that she finally realized something.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:17 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Feb 20 2013, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The truth of her confession lies in her words, and their context which if you read carefully through them are all true.

She loves him - truth, over a long period from chapter 3 onward she has shown steadily growing feelings for Naruto.

Hes always been there for her, always supported her - truth she acknowledges all the contributions naruto ahs made for her.

She says she cant continue to love someone whos a criminal - truth she has grown and changed beyond her shallow crush


Narutos presnece in her heart is greater - also truth its been shown in a clear progression of feelings for her.

where Sakura does not lie but attempts to deflect or obfuscate is in regards to her having let all feelings for sasuke go-- this is partly untrue and partly a deflection as she tries to hide the truth from naruto regarding the rookies decision about Sasuke.

This was the sum total of what she actually lied about and it was only a lie of obfuscation where she hid the truth from him in order to protect him.

the end result is that Sakura was truthful in her confession--Kishimoto sensei wrote --I thought i wrote a suprisingly determined and honest girl--confirming this.

She intended to ease his burden in several ways by no longer doing the minor things. Instead this time she would take the heavy burden, she would kill her heart and kill the one she loved, and bear Narutos hatred forever and the pain of losing lim and any chance he would ever love her.

This is why her confession was genuine and selfless, she intended to give up any chance of having Narutos love and if needed die knowing Naruto would hate her forever because she killed his best friend.


This^ Hunted Cake@ I hope you're satisfied with catsi's response.

Edited by Gravenimage, 20 February 2013 - 10:17 PM.

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#10957 HauntedCake

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:20 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 20 2013, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This^ Hunted Cake@ I hope you're satisfied with catsi's response.


Aye, that i am biggrin.gif cool.gif

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Feb 20 2013, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think so because then Kishi has to show us this scene again, to assure us that it happened that way.

Because of the speechbubbles "!", I think they were interrupted. I like the suspense here. But I don't get why this would support her confession? It already looked like from her reaction that she finally realized something.


Which he might do if they talk about her confession again? Which is most likely...if Naruto confesses and all. She might mention when she realized it through Yamato's words. And then we would be given the deliberately skipped scene.

I noticed those, but I was also focusing on the way they were drawn as well. It could be that she'd turned away when they were interrupted, but it's just weird that this wasn't exactly shown. I thought it would support it more if she knows what Yamato was saying vs her not knowing, because then she wouldn't have been lying to herself at all. She would have had a lot of time to think over her feelings since then, too. Some people (not a lot of people here) believe that she wasn't telling the complete truth after all. But yea...most likely I'm wrong.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:52 PM

QUOTE (Qia @ Feb 20 2013, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Which he might do if they talk about her confession again? Which is most likely...if Naruto confesses and all. She might mention when she realized it through Yamato's words. And then we would be given the deliberately skipped scene.

I noticed those, but I was also focusing on the way they were drawn as well. It could be that she'd turned away when they were interrupted, but it's just weird that this wasn't exactly shown. I thought it would support it more if she knows what Yamato was saying vs her not knowing, because then she wouldn't have been lying to herself at all. She would have had a lot of time to think over her feelings since then, too. Some people (not a lot of people here) believe that she wasn't telling the complete truth after all. But yea...most likely I'm wrong.


Not telling the complete truth about what?

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Feb 20 2013, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not telling the complete truth about what?


About her feelings for Naruto. Some people believe that she still doesn't know how she feels, really. And that the confession was a lie. I'm not saying they're wrong for thinking so by the way, or that it's bad that she still doesn't know. But I just wanted to bring up this possibility of her already hearing all of Yamato's words to her. happy.gif

Edited by Qia, 20 February 2013 - 10:56 PM.

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