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[FireFox]

[Nar123]

What I don't understand is the logical process of this post.

If you hold hands with your siblings or your parents or your friends, does it mean it's not romantic when you do it with your lover? Is Sakura's hug towards Naruto not romantic because Naruto's mother hugged him as well? And no, the forehead poke Itachi did towards Sasuke was not meant for "distancing" each other. It was an affectionate way to touch his little brother.

We could logically defeat SS without resorting to the same level of logical reasoning skills as NH/SS. Come on. We could do better than this.

Edit: And before anyone jumps at me calling a SS fan for disagreeing to a particular argument made by A-SS, I'm not. I'm only saying we can do better. We're undermining our own NS moments if we use this logic.

 

I don't agree, the poke in itself is not romantic, its a gesture to say "maybe later, not now". A hug or a kiss means affection, wether its between family, friends or lovers. 

 

The poke never meant affection, it means distance. 

 

this one however means affection, not distance

 

 

Edited by Nar123, 19 March 2015 - 01:06 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

So anyone see the new episode?

[ramenanmitsu]

 
I don't agree, the poke in itself is not romantic, its a gesture to say "maybe later, not now". A hug or a kiss means affection, wether its between family, friends or lovers. 
 
The poke never meant affection, it means distance. 
 
this one however means affection, not distance
 
 

Itachi doing the forehead poke towards Sasuke was an affectionate way of saying "see you later". Itachi attaching his forehead and poking, BOTH were affectionate actions he showed towards Sasuke.

But if you view things differently, or if it's a cultural difference we have there's nothing more we could argue about.

[RedFaction]

The real problem with Sasuke poking Sakura's forehead is that he had zero reason to do that. He knew nothing about her insecurities about her forehead and Sakura has no way of knowing what that forehead poke even means, so she's going to think in her head that Sasuke has really cared about her all this time which is completely untrue.

 

The only way SS could have happened is by Sasuke being completely OOC and by making Sakura turn back into her early part 1 self. There's no arguing aganist that.

Edited by RedFaction, 19 March 2015 - 01:23 PM.

[luffyq1]

How dare you doubt me!!

Whenever I read a love story I insert Sasuke and Sakura as the male and female lead, whenever I go to sleep I wear SS pyajamas, whenever I see pigeons mating I name them Sasuke and Sakura, and I filled my room with blue and pink so I can feel and see them 24/7

oh dear lord what have i done! please forgive my insolence fellow ss brother. 

 

i shall never doubt you again. 

[ramenanmitsu]

The real problem with Sasuke poking Sakura's forehead is that he had zero reason to do that. He knew nothing about her insecurities about her forehead and Sakura has no way of knowing what that forehead poke even means, so she's going to think in her head that Sasuke has really cared about her all this time which is completely untrue.
 
The only way SS could have happened is by Sasuke being completely OOC and by making Sakura turn back into her early part 1 self. There's no arguing aganist that.

Reason what is that? If you're gonna read Kishi's manga, you've got to flush down your rationality and logic down the toilet.

[Nar123]

Itachi doing the forehead poke towards Sasuke was an affectionate way of saying "see you later". Itachi attaching his forehead and poking, BOTH were affectionate actions he showed towards Sasuke.

But if you view things differently, or if it's a cultural difference we have there's nothing more we could argue about.

 

I don't think it was affectionate at all

 

How a gesture that it's about putting yourself in distance in relation to another person means affection ?

 

for Sakura it probably meant affection since she doesnt know what the hell that meant but "omg Sasky kwoon touched me!!ufhflgnjsgj"

 

but for Sasuke he probably was just telling her "not now, maybe later"  like Itachi did

 

We see the difference between the forehead poke and the forehead touch, while the forehead touch means affection and bringing the person closer, the poke means distance.

 

There is nothing more to it.

 

SS fans are just warping what the poke trully means to a romanticc gesture somehow, its like they don't have any information on what the poke means like Sakura who also probably misinterpreted.

Edited by Nar123, 19 March 2015 - 01:30 PM.

[Phantom_999]

I think that we can all agree on is that Duck-butt head doesn't deserve a woman as wonderful,kind and understanding as Haruno Sakura. Especially with how he turns her into an emotionally unstable and whimpering mess for 99% of that god-d***ed manga. It has nothing to do with whether not he was being romantic towards her, he just breaks her strong and independent self and turns her sobbing wreck when she's not being his devoted fan-girl. IT's disgusting, insulting and spits on what real relationships should be about. And more than that they had to Friggin destroy all character development and bonds to other important people in these character's lives just to make these f***ing bulls*** fairy tale pairings canon. "Shy insecure girl with ideal dream guy" and "dark brooding bad-boy to be tamed and healed by nice girl". SUCH PERFECTION of relationships, who gives a d*** about anyone else important to them. Give me a break!!!!!!                    

Edited by Phantom_999, 19 March 2015 - 01:44 PM.

[ramenanmitsu]

I don't think it was affectionate at all
 
How a gesture that it's about putting yourself in distance in relation to another person means affection ?
 
for Sakura it probably meant affection since she doesnt know what the hell that meant but "omg Sasky kwoon touched me!!ufhflgnjsgj"
 
but for Sasuke he probably was just telling her "not now, maybe later"  like Itachi did
 
We see the difference between the forehead poke and the forehead touch, while the forehead touch means affection and bringing the person closer, the poke means distance.
 
There is nothing more to it.
 
SS fans are just warping what the poke trully means to a romanticc gesture somehow, its like they don't have any information on what the poke means like Sakura who also probably misinterpreted.

So if a guy kisses his wife to say "not now, maybe later" it's not affectionate because it means distance?

I'm not saying the poke is romantic(although I believe it is implied to be romantic in context), I'm saying it's affectionate. Nothing more, nothing less. And as I said, there's no point in arguing with you. To me arguing if the forehead poke was affectionate or not is like arguing if a hug is affectionate or not. It's obvious to me and if it's not to you then all I can say is we come from different cultural backgrounds. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying we see things differently.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 19 March 2015 - 01:48 PM.

[Lady Lys]

the funny thing is that the poke thing has never been a romantic gesture.... until to the SS scene where it has been transformed into a romantic and kawai gesture. Because obviously of Kishi logic. Because of Banana.

'S always because Banana, Rico. ALWAYS.

 

 This manga should be renamed 'Banana, Princess Hyuuga-sama-desu-hime-moe, The Chronicles'. 

 

 

How dare you doubt me!!

Whenever I read a love story I insert Sasuke and Sakura as the male and female lead, whenever I go to sleep I wear SS pyajamas, whenever I see pigeons mating I name them Sasuke and Sakura, and I filled my room with blue and pink so I can feel and see them 24/7

 

I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING. I CAN'T STOP!!!!!     

 

Help, I'm suffocating!

[Nar123]

So if a guy kisses his wife to say "not now, maybe later" it's not affectionate because it means distance?

I'm not saying the poke is romantic, I'm saying it's affectionate. Nothing more, nothing less. And as I said, there's no point in arguing with you. To me arguing if the forehead poke was affectionate or not is like arguing if a hug is affectionate or not. It's obvious to me and if it's not to you then all I can say is we come from different cultural backgrounds. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying we see things differently.

 

I guess its agree to disagree then

 

but its one thing to kiss while saying "not now maybe later" and another thing to poke the person's forehead

 

I believe the difference is clear when we compare a true gesture of affection (forehead touch) meant to bring a person closer, with the forehead poke meant for distance

Edited by Nar123, 19 March 2015 - 01:49 PM.

[ramenanmitsu]

oh dear lord what have i done! please forgive my insolence fellow ss brother. 
 
i shall never doubt you again.

As punishment you'll help me write the new Bolt novel that NS4life wants to read so much!
Give me the most beautiful ideas you can think of!!

[TouKen4Life3g]

As punishment you'll help me write the new Bolt novel that NS4life wants to read so much!
Give me the most beautiful ideas you can think of!!

I rather read Bolt getting destroyed by a dude with glasses and in the end, Bolt is in the suitcase.

[AzureWaters]

 

I guess its agree to disagree then

 

but its one thing to kiss while saying "not now maybe later" and another thing to poke the person's forehead

 

I believe the difference is clear when we compare a true gesture of affection (forehead touch) meant to bring a person closer, with the forehead poke meant for distance

Think you're simplifying it a bit. Overall the forehead poke meant something special to Sasuke and something that he took as an affectionate gesture from his brother to him. He uses it on Sakura to also show affection because that's what he associates the feeling to.

i.e, Sasuke's socially awkward and takes cues from how his brother interacted with him as a child. That or he's that obsessed with Itachi. You pick.

[Khaleesi]

I guess its agree to disagree then

 

but its one thing to kiss while saying "not now maybe later" and another thing to poke the person's forehead

 

I believe the difference is clear when we compare a true gesture of affection (forehead touch) meant to bring a person closer, with the forehead poke meant for distance

Even if the poke itself was meant to be "distance" it was always in an affective way, so I don't really see your point?

Anyway, after that there is one more thing that you should keep in mind: Did Kishimoto intented it to be a romantic gesture for them both? Yes. Hence it is. (They got married, after all   )

Edited by theunburnt, 19 March 2015 - 02:05 PM.

[Khaleesi]

I rather read Bolt getting destroyed by a dude with glasses and in the end, Bolt is in the suitcase.

TG final, huh? You guys are easy to traumatize 

[ichigo500]

Are the SS fans trying to prove something with their "apron" thing....?  Ah, I forgot...we absolutely don't care about them ! 

[redrose3443]

Has this been posted yet?

 

 

I dislike this tumblr user, cause I think they're just saying things they know a certain fandom wants to hear.

 

I went to their page, after reading a few anti-ending post and saw a lot of pro-ending and pro-NH/SS post. I think this user just latches on to whatever is the current issue circulating on tumblr, like when people talked about the Hyuuga clan enslavement or how Kishi didn't invest anything into the canon couples and let SP run wild.

[TouKen4Life3g]

TG final, huh? You guys are easy to traumatize 

Hey, no one ask for Bolt, ok. I don't need him, you don't need him, no one does. The best you can do is tragedy with no epilogue or sequel.