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#10901 sushi.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:45 PM

Sorry my bad on the video :'(

That's interesting usually it's NH that NS fans would prefer of the two, though I have to admit if Sauske Never tried to kill her it would look soooo much better, not great better better than it is now.

Didn't Neji asked why she did something so foolish?


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You know I bet when NS happens they wished that they just shipped for fun instead of going into a pairing war.

No need to apologize. The video didn't make me upset and I don't think you broke the rules by posting it. I just don't like sugar-coating my words.

 

About Neji's question, I think it's a keen contrast between that and 614. He didn't understand back then, why she would die for him. In 614, he blatantly says it oud loud ~ "She is willing to die for you, Naruto". I think he gave it some thought, whether it is intentional or not I don't know. Either way I really like the detail, thanks for the reminder. :thumbsup:


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:47 PM

Guys, this video is brilliant:

 

 

I have never laughed so hard in my life. Watch it.

:lmao:

 

 

The reactions on this video are perfectly adressed

 

Oh my god, this is just as good as the hitler reacts to the chapter 631 video.

 

 

omg its freaking perfect xD

 

 Aww stop it ya all  :chuckle:  That day was just so crazy... Kinda miss that :D

 

 

That video is made by freakysandra here on H&E. Personally I'm rooting for a pairing moment even more now, just so she can make a video about it. :lmao: She also made a hitler reaction to 631.

 

 Sooon  :hehehe:


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:01 PM

Oh, you're here. : )

 

Why is the video not on your channel? :headscratch: ##why so curious


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:09 PM

No need to apologize. The video didn't make me upset and I don't think you broke the rules by posting it. I just don't like sugar-coating my words.
 
About Neji's question, I think it's a keen contrast between that and 614. He didn't understand back then, why she would die for him. In 614, he blatantly says it oud loud ~ "She is willing to die for you, Naruto". I think he gave it some thought, whether it is intentional or not I don't know. Either way I really like the detail, thanks for the reminder. :thumbsup:


I see, thanks goodness I hoped I Didn't break any O:-) .

No problem I to feel that's what helped lead Neji to the ultimate sacrifice.

I will admit, the illusion that many fandoms created prevented me to see the picture and sometimes, have a hard time to accept what's there rather what's being overshadowed with a random interpretation. I won't let them get the best of me. So, now I can see an actual picture. While I do demand something from this manga, I don't get upset when it doesn't happen. To me, I feel that this latest chapter demonstrated people's thoughts on how they wanted it, rather see how it's being done. We can still judge if it's good or bad, but at times, people somehow missed the picture.


I wonder how many more times they will do this.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:17 PM

@ sushi Interesting question :-D
It's because my subscribers are mostly from Germany and don't understand English that good to understand the joke :-S They also rather wanted a new update on my story than a funny video x) So I guessed they would be mad at me
I did however uploaded the Hitler video because somebody asked if I could do so :-)

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:18 PM

Guys, this video is brilliant:

 

 

I have never laughed so hard in my life. Watch it.

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This is hilarious.  :chuckle:



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:02 AM

Would this video hold any truth?

I just died watching this!! LMAO somehow this is how I portray NH.



 


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:54 AM

I think the reason there's a preference towards wanting Hinata to be with Naruto is less about liking them together and more about not wanting Sakura to be with Naruto, therefore they have to settle for Hinata since she's the only other existing option for Naruto to have a romance.

 

And the reason for fans not wanting Sakura to be with Naruto, one word: Sasuke. I believe it's Sakura's continuous love for Sasuke that has turned people off from wanting her to be with Naruto. It's not about which girl has the better personality, it's about which girl is supposedly the most loyal towards Naruto in a romantic perspective.

 

It's not even about Sakura not being sure about how she feels about Naruto while Hinata is sure, it's because part of that unsureness comes from her feelings for another guy. I think they want Sakura's romantic uncertainty to be only about whether or not she loves Naruto, and not about whether or not she loves Naruto or Sasuke.

 

Or to go even further, maybe it's not about Sakura being caught between her feelings towards 2 guys, maybe it's because one of those guys is Sasuke. We all know how stupid a relationship between Sasuke and Sakura would be now considering how the story progressed, and I'm sure that plenty of other fans are aware of it too. But instead of them hoping that Sakura will finally get the development necessary to get over those wrong feelings, they instead choose to resent her for them. And since they resent Sakura for her feelings for Sasuke they would rather see Hinata paired with Naruto instead.

 

I still remember clearly how many NH fans jumped into the AU Hinata bandwagon during the anticipation of Road to Ninja, and as the story implied this AU Hinata was the complete opposite in personality from the original, so why did NH fans liked her so much since she was so different? Because she still liked Naruto, and only Naruto, very much despite her change.

 

That's how I feel part of the NH fans might feel like. It's not about personality, it's about romantic singularity.



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:03 AM

That is very well put, reddragon. :yes:

 

I think many fans have already given up on the possibility of Sakura loving Naruto. Neutrals especially, opened up to it in 450. Then her confession came and it is easier to label it as "fake" than to dive into it(the story is usually simple, but this one is actually a lot to dive into). 540 only knocked it down even further.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:14 AM

I think the reason there's a preference towards wanting Hinata to be with Naruto is less about liking them together and more about not wanting Sakura to be with Naruto, therefore they have to settle for Hinata since she's the only other existing option for Naruto to have a romance.

 

And the reason for fans not wanting Sakura to be with Naruto, one word: Sasuke. I believe it's Sakura's continuous love for Sasuke that has turned people off from wanting her to be with Naruto. It's not about which girl has the better personality, it's about which girl is supposedly the most loyal towards Naruto in a romantic perspective.

 

It's not even about Sakura not being sure about how she feels about Naruto while Hinata is sure, it's because part of that unsureness comes from her feelings for another guy. I think they want Sakura's romantic uncertainty to be only about whether or not she loves Naruto, and not about whether or not she loves Naruto or Sasuke.

 

Or to go even further, maybe it's not about Sakura being caught between her feelings towards 2 guys, maybe it's because one of those guys is Sasuke. We all know how stupid a relationship between Sasuke and Sakura would be now considering how the story progressed, and I'm sure that plenty of other fans are aware of it too. But instead of them hoping that Sakura will finally get the development necessary to get over those wrong feelings, they instead choose to resent her for them. And since they resent Sakura for her feelings for Sasuke they would rather see Hinata paired with Naruto instead.

 

I still remember clearly how many NH fans jumped into the AU Hinata bandwagon during the anticipation of Road to Ninja, and as the story implied this AU Hinata was the complete opposite in personality from the original, so why did NH fans liked her so much since she was so different? Because she still liked Naruto, and only Naruto, very much despite her change.

 

That's how I feel part of the NH fans might feel like. It's not about personality, it's about romantic singularity.

This is arguable.

 

To be fair, I remember seeing people actually disliking AU! Hinata being jealous of Sakura in NF. There were many bandwagons, that I lost count and just say, "Forget it", though I censored that quote. Haha. Anyway, it's hard to say what is the more preference to the fandom or how the pairing should be dealt with. Though in my opinion, I still believe it's more of a preference of Hinata and her alone. If she has this many fandom, then it's her, just her, and whoever she connects, she must get. I won't say you're wrong because honestly, you're not.

 

The thing is that this pairing aspect is one of those thing that you must tally up and see that it can truly works, rather just let the end do it. In many retrospects, people are used to friends already, no one in love though one falls for only short period of time,  and then love just happens because it did. I don't think people are not adjusted to literally start from scratch idea. I mean even when a new female character comes in the first episode/chapter, they become friend right away, only one would have to get used to the world (Fairy Tail, Bleach, etc.) Naruto is like literally baby steps, no shortcuts. Patience is the greatest weakness for all of us and boy, this really show.

 

Another funny thing is that have I not know Naruto is a "never give up" guy, I would actually think he moved on. But thanks to filler of hell (lol), I went back with a matured mind and realized that this couple is actually growing and Naruto didn't stop, rather doing something nice. Heck, even Futurama did it. If your love is sad because of her love is gone, what good would it do if you just step in. Make her happy. So naturally, I wasn't effected by Hinata's "glory" in terms of pairing. In part 2, right off the bat, I knew I wasn't wrong about the growth. That blush and all sets you up that things are matured but at the same time, so as relationships. I wasn't a shipper at this time, but still, if my neutral eyes see it, why can't anyone?



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:45 AM

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:50 AM

This is arguable.
 
To be fair, I remember seeing people actually disliking AU! Hinata being jealous of Sakura in NF. There were many bandwagons, that I lost count and just say, "Forget it", though I censored that quote. Haha. Anyway, it's hard to say what is the more preference to the fandom or how the pairing should be dealt with. Though in my opinion, I still believe it's more of a preference of Hinata and her alone. If she has this many fandom, then it's her, just her, and whoever she connects, she must get. I won't say you're wrong because honestly, you're not.
 
The thing is that this pairing aspect is one of those thing that you must tally up and see that it can truly works, rather just let the end do it. In many retrospects, people are used to friends already, no one in love though one falls for only short period of time,  and then love just happens because it did. I don't think people are not adjusted to literally start from scratch idea. I mean even when a new female character comes in the first episode/chapter, they become friend right away, only one would have to get used to the world (Fairy Tail, Bleach, etc.) Naruto is like literally baby steps, no shortcuts. Patience is the greatest weakness for all of us and boy, this really show.
 
Another funny thing is that have I not know Naruto is a "never give up" guy, I would actually think he moved on. But thanks to filler of hell (lol), I went back with a matured mind and realized that this couple is actually growing and Naruto didn't stop, rather doing something nice. Heck, even Futurama did it. If your love is sad because of her love is gone, what good would it do if you just step in. Make her happy. So naturally, I wasn't effected by Hinata's "glory" in terms of pairing. In part 2, right off the bat, I knew I wasn't wrong about the growth. That blush and all sets you up that things are matured but at the same time, so as relationships. I wasn't a shipper at this time, but still, if my neutral eyes see it, why can't anyone?


Shipping googles man sigh* every S or NH find a excuse to make their couple look better and to make themselves feel better with false hopes

But when they take out the shipping googles they realise what is acually written in the panel then they put them on again and everything is ok(sarcasm) xD

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 02:12 AM

http://sixfootdeep.t...n-like-an-empty

 

Just felt like I should share this art with you guys, it's incredible!! go show it and the artist some love!!

Guys, read the other comics too. It's been a while since I've laughed like that.

Shipping googles man sigh* every S or NH find a excuse to make their couple look better and to make themselves feel better with false hopes

But when they take out the shipping googles they realise what is acually written in the panel then they put them on again and everything is ok(sarcasm) xD

This is not exclusive to the NH fandom. It is unfair to put every S/NH fan(yes you did say every) under the same yardstick, and at the same time exlude the NS fans that do the same. I just felt the need to defend them here, because they can't do it themselves.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 02:22 AM

I predict the same reaction of the naruto fandom once the OR>NS parallel gets confirmed :-S

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 02:29 AM

Anyone here been a NH fan but changed to NS?



 


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 02:54 AM

That is very well put, reddragon. :yes:

 

I think many fans have already given up on the possibility of Sakura loving Naruto. Neutrals especially, opened up to it in 450. Then her confession came and it is easier to label it as "fake" than to dive into it(the story is usually simple, but this one is actually a lot to dive into). 540 only knocked it down even further.

 

From a neutral perspective one can look back at 540 and see that the purpose of lover-nin was to make Sakura aware that Sasuke is not the great guy that people would assume someone like her would truly love. And that can lead to Sakura thinking about the true nature of her feelings for Sasuke.

 

Sadly, thanks to shipping goggles, this moment is interpreted as Sakura being sad that Sasuke is in the darkness, which doesn't really make sense when you see the context of the scene. The reason Sakura thinks about Sasuke is to contradict what lover-nin said, that she does not love a great guy. Therefore the question that Sakura should follow with is "If Sasuke is not the great guy someone like me should love, then do I truly love him?", this is the logical next step.

 

If Sakura is meant to have a realization about her feelings for Sasuke then the scene with lover-nin could prefectly fit into that scenario, and that may very well be what Kishi planned all along. To make Sakura realize that while Sasuke has the potential, if redeemed, to become a good and cool guy, that he really never was the great and special guy that Sakura was meant to love with all her heart.

 

To be fair, I remember seeing people actually disliking AU! Hinata being jealous of Sakura in NF. There were many bandwagons, that I lost count and just say, "Forget it", though I censored that quote. Haha. Anyway, it's hard to say what is the more preference to the fandom or how the pairing should be dealt with. Though in my opinion, I still believe it's more of a preference of Hinata and her alone. If she has this many fandom, then it's her, just her, and whoever she connects, she must get. I won't say you're wrong because honestly, you're not.

 

I'm not saying all NH fans think in the way I explained, I'm just giving an example of how a potentially a considerable number of them might see things. Let's be honest, a good portion of the time when a certain NH fans is giving their opinion it ends up being less about what Hinata does and more about what Sakura doesn't do and how she is. Instead of talking about how great Hinata is from her own standing they talk about how much Sakura sucks compared to Hinata.

 

It feels like most of the time instead of trying to bring Hinata up they would rather bring Sakura down. They do it because Hinata isn't that big of a deal by herself, and they know it, therefore they have to bash Sakura in order to have some standing. And the only reason why I can imagine that they would insist on defending such a small character as Hinata is, despite it being hard, is because they conclude that at least she's a better option than Sakura, so Hinata will have to do.

 

About AU Hinata, so you say people disliked her because she was jealous of Sakura? That sounds to me like they're pissed off that AU Hinata sees Sakura as a threat which actually can further solidify how solid the NS relationship is. It seems to me they were less angry at AU Hinata's personality and more about her acknowledging the existing potential of NS.



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 04:24 AM

I think the reason there's a preference towards wanting Hinata to be with Naruto is less about liking them together and more about not wanting Sakura to be with Naruto, therefore they have to settle for Hinata since she's the only other existing option for Naruto to have a romance.

Ugh, YES! There are quite a bit of SasuSaku fans who "sideship" NaruHina clearly just to get Naruto out of the way. They insist that "It's NOT sideshipping!!" but come on... They can't seem to think of any reasons why NH will happen except that "Hinata's loved Naruto for so long, and Naruto has only been positive towards her so what would be the reason to have Hinata harbor those feelings??" There were some who didn't start "shipping" NH until Kiba's "Don't try to look strong in front of Hinata, Naruto!" comment, and/or 615. Eh, I should stop before I go on a rant haha.

 

That is very well put, reddragon. :yes:

 

I think many fans have already given up on the possibility of Sakura loving Naruto. Neutrals especially, opened up to it in 450. Then her confession came and it is easier to label it as "fake" than to dive into it(the story is usually simple, but this one is actually a lot to dive into). 540 only knocked it down even further.

Yeah, I've recently been reading some old threads [on NF] from 2008/2009, and there were quite a few neutrals (+ people who don't ship any of the Big Three, like SasuNaru fans) who pointed out Sakura's growing affection for Naruto. Of course, after Sakura's confession to Naruto and that whole thing, some of the neutrals were like, "Uh, she still loves Sasuke? Wow..." And that's pretty much that. But even so, the rest of them (and even including those neutrals/SN fans who sort of changed their mind that Sakura had growing feelings for Naruto) still see that Sakura has shown feelings for Naruto that could be non-platonic, and that NaruSaku >> SasuSaku (and NH too, but NH is not as bad as SS in most eyes), anyway.  :P


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 04:55 AM

I'm not saying all NH fans think in the way I explained, I'm just giving an example of how a potentially a considerable number of them might see things. Let's be honest, a good portion of the time when a certain NH fans is giving their opinion it ends up being less about what Hinata does and more about what Sakura doesn't do and how she is. Instead of talking about how great Hinata is from her own standing they talk about how much Sakura sucks compared to Hinata.

 

It feels like most of the time instead of trying to bring Hinata up they would rather bring Sakura down. They do it because Hinata isn't that big of a deal by herself, and they know it, therefore they have to bash Sakura in order to have some standing. And the only reason why I can imagine that they would insist on defending such a small character as Hinata is, despite it being hard, is because they conclude that at least she's a better option than Sakura, so Hinata will have to do.

 

About AU Hinata, so you say people disliked her because she was jealous of Sakura? That sounds to me like they're pissed off that AU Hinata sees Sakura as a threat which actually can further solidify how solid the NS relationship is. It seems to me they were less angry at AU Hinata's personality and more about her acknowledging the existing potential of NS.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Don't worry. The problem is that many wants Naruto to be a one time quitter and that token would be used on love. Selfish and random if you ask me. Unfortunately, Naruto will always be like that, so this is something that many having a hard time to accept it. You know what's the problem in general: accepting. Look, when it comes to reviewing, you can point out the good and bad, BUT, you can't say "because it didn't go your way." That's not your story, it's his. You can still decide what's good and what's bad on how it's handled, but not because it's not your take. It's like movie adaptation. You can't really expect the exact same content, but you can only hope the changes make sense.

 

That all said Naruto is not the guy to play the lesson of "wrong love," that's Sakura's job now. Kishi only present one person to do one lesson and when doing the same (such as revenge), one must be different from another (Itachi and Pain). Sakura is doing the finding the real love card and no one should have that. You could argue, "What about Hinata?" Well, she can play, "Time to be independent from this point forward" card. The result is not the same as Sakura. See? But again, sadly, people wants Naruto to be a quitter. Well....Too Bad.

 

Ugh, YES! There are quite a bit of SasuSaku fans who "sideship" NaruHina clearly just to get Naruto out of the way. They insist that "It's NOT sideshipping!!" but come on... They can't seem to think of any reasons why NH will happen except that "Hinata's loved Naruto for so long, and Naruto has only been positive towards her so what would be the reason to have Hinata harbor those feelings??" There were some who didn't start "shipping" NH until Kiba's "Don't try to look strong in front of Hinata, Naruto!" comment, and/or 615. Eh, I should stop before I go on a rant haha.

 

Yeah, I've recently been reading some old threads [on NF] from 2008/2009, and there were quite a few neutrals (+ people who don't ship any of the Big Three, like SasuNaru fans) who pointed out Sakura's growing affection for Naruto. Of course, after Sakura's confession to Naruto and that whole thing, some of the neutrals were like, "Uh, she still loves Sasuke? Wow..." And that's pretty much that. But even so, the rest of them (and even including those neutrals/SN fans who sort of changed their mind that Sakura had growing feelings for Naruto) still see that Sakura has shown feelings for Naruto that could be non-platonic, and that NaruSaku >> SasuSaku (and NH too, but NH is not as bad as SS in most eyes), anyway.  :P

You know, what made me believe that Kishi is clearly not done with love triangle is ironically chapter 540. Think about it. Kishi made the Kage Summit Arc the way it is. Many of them left with a cliffhanger note, mainly Naruto vs. Sasuke and Naruto's intention, which is reserved for Sakura to communicate with Naruto before the storm. That moment won't get addressed until these two finally fight and certainly we won't get it in this current arc. That said that left Sakura in wait mode, which no one has because they don't even know. Naruto claimed that he will tell them AFTER it's over. So there you have it, an NS moment on hold.

 

Anyway, back to what I was saying before. The reason why I said 540 got me thinking differently is because you have to connect the dots. First of all, if you want to use the interview, Kishi claimed, "Naruto is close..." which made me wonder why did he even say it. Second, Sakura thinking Sasuke almost felt nothing new; however, going back to the old chapters, it's strange but the true is that this is the very first time that her love was questioned. To make matter worse, 635 made it a connection without even bringing it up. The sad part is that this is actually the first time in a long while that they are reunited yet she doesn't like it. That's a bad sign. 540 was about her trying to think Sasuke is a great guy, which she couldn't do it. 635 is about herself seeing Sasuke as a person, which she also fails. This is a setup for that climax of her feelings and so, it's on hold.

 

The one thing that really screwed the idea of NS being dead is Kishi's ongoing teases. The problem again is the fact we are so deep yet we are still getting them like it's all good. No, that's unacceptable if NS is not meant to be, let alone if others are. The movie should have them not talking about date at all, hell I'll go far to say not even having a dilemma with each other. Now, in manga, there shouldn't be 631. It could very well just say, "Thank you for healing him" and that's it. Shut up, Minato. But no, Kishi wrote to it and destroy the fandom zillion folds. Here's an idea: do it for HINATA. That all said it's impossible to think otherwise anymore because now it's fully established that NS will only continue to rise and possibly end up together in the end, while NH is demeaning (not me, Kish) to a friendship level and SS is on verge of ending.

 

The worst for them is Sasuke is not a team player in pairing war. Hell, he is continuing to show that he's the worst man in there, stopping one man from killing Naruto just so he can do it. There's not one moment that he has a good quality. He helps just to end the war. Orochimaru said it best, not interested, but since the world itself is in danger, why not. After the war, it's all up for grabs. There hasn't been a sign of him being nice or anything, only furthering the idea that he is shady and just the fact he got mad at Naruto is not a good sign. This is war, focus on that only.

 

Bottom line...do I need to explain more...



#10919 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 09:27 AM

That is very well put, reddragon. :yes:

 

I think many fans have already given up on the possibility of Sakura loving Naruto. Neutrals especially, opened up to it in 450. Then her confession came and it is easier to label it as "fake" than to dive into it(the story is usually simple, but this one is actually a lot to dive into). 540 only knocked it down even further.

@Reddragon.

 

I dont think so, i was neutral until the bridal save.

Unless if they were biased i would not expect Sakura to move on without confronting Sasuke with her very eyes.

That's either selective reading and extreme bias rather than someome being neutral.

The summit gives the idea that Sakura knows Naruto is a better option and on which she knows very well, it's not her problem that she still has lingering feelings on him and that was obvious since on the summit she didnt confronted him.
540 and the summit makes the conclusion of it, she still has feelings for Sasuke but not as strong as they were before, because she put Naruto's wellbeing above her feelings for this guy particularly, her confessing wasnt needed, she could've had gone straight up to kill Sasuke and this would remain unaffected but kishi made the fake confesson which is fake obviously to show where she stands currently, i was neutral during that moment and i can tell you she did lie, however the fact that she chose to return Naruto's feelings for his sake in conflict to her feelings for Sasuke is very telling.

 

What i dislike is people calling themselves neutrals and jumping the gun like this, i bet on NH moments they go to look for the context for NS they just look at the moment and try to label, it "fake confession" and then skip the moment without seeing the context, that's bias and selective reading, 540 no matter if still shows that she loves Sasuke it's not on a good way, it's on a different level of what had gone so far, the guy didnt said that if Sasuke was a great guy in terms of a hero and etc... but on terms of being nice, and it's shown a cold Sasuke.

It starts a process on which she start moving on by questioning her feelings for him.

 

In fact most of the neutrals i've met on which they are many already dropped the series.


Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 08 November 2013 - 11:14 AM.

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 11:29 AM

For most of the fandom out there, "Naruhina" and "Hinata" have the same meaning.

Edited by LadyGT, 08 November 2013 - 11:29 AM.

 
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