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[trang95]

How Romantic

There are two scenes I'm especially looking forward to in the anime:

1) CPR- do I need to explain why?

2) Sasuke stabbing Sakura- I hope it will be shocking as hell and awfully graphic with lots and lots of blood to remind everyone why SasuSaku is awful.

Edited by trang95, 14 November 2014 - 04:11 AM.

[redrose3443]

@FrenchMyToast I just love your sig.

 

I think the SD series is the only thing I could go back and read/watch at this point.

[tricksie]

Just wondering...why did Minato say "I leave him to you" when he was talking to Sakura (about Naruto). Isn't that supposed to be a significant statement in Japanese culture? That whole interaction (and the 'she's my girlfriend' statement) was one of the things I took as a pretty big indicator of NS being the OTP. There is no way to twist it in favor of NH, it's pretty unequivocal in support of NS.

 

Anyway, another theory...maybe the movie was done by one group, and the manga was continued by Kishimoto, who knew it was giong to end NH but never cared to adjust the storyline. He just wrote what he wanted, continued with the NS/anti-SS vibe, then when it was time to end it, he just ended it. Wrote the last chapter and epilogue to be flattering to NH/SS and line up with the movie, and then it was peace out. 

 

It was like a tv show being suddenly canceled. Except that Kishimoto knew the movie was coming. So I'm wondering if Kishimoto just wrote whatever he wanted, then slapped on a NH/SS ending.

 

And when they wrote about staying tuned for a "shocking ending" in the manga, I thought it meant that Sasuke was going to be Hokage. Silly me, thinking it was going to be about the plot. Instead the "shocking ending" had everything to do with the romance.

[Aizen-Sama]

I think the "shocking ending" also had to do with Konoha turning into NYC along with the kitten pairings happening.
Wow...699-700 still reads like an AU after all these days.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Just wondering...why did Minato say "I leave him to you" when he was talking to Sakura (about Naruto). Isn't that supposed to be a significant statement in Japanese culture? That whole interaction (and the 'she's my girlfriend' statement) was one of the things I took as a pretty big indicator of NS being the OTP. There is no way to twist it in favor of NH, it's pretty unequivocal in support of NS.

 

Anyway, another theory...maybe the movie was done by one group, and the manga was continued by Kishimoto, who knew it was giong to end NH but never cared to adjust the storyline. He just wrote what he wanted, continued with the NS/anti-SS vibe, then when it was time to end it, he just ended it. Wrote the last chapter and epilogue to be flattering to NH/SS and line up with the movie, and then it was peace out. 

 

It was like a tv show being suddenly canceled. Except that Kishimoto knew the movie was coming. So I'm wondering if Kishimoto just wrote whatever he wanted, then slapped on a NH/SS ending.

 

And when they wrote about staying tuned for a "shocking ending" in the manga, I thought it meant that Sasuke was going to be Hokage. Silly me, thinking it was going to be about the plot. Instead the "shocking ending" had everything to do with the romance.

 

I think it's meant to be that Minato can tell Sakura loves Naruto in some way, and that he knew his son was in good hands with her, even if that just got IGNORED for some damn reason. As James S. Cassidy said in his Hinata's character n-blog, the reason why Hinata wouldn't work with Naruto is simply because she doesn't understand Naruto as well as others do.

[airongstring]

Maybe when kushina said "find a woman like me and not a weird one", kishi actually meant the opposite?

Because kushina also said "stay away from jiraiya" but in the end naruto became jiraiya's pupil and naruto said he was the coolest of the sannins?

 

maybe that's the underneath the underneath?

 

I don't even know anymore...

[Narufan85]

But even if Minato didn't intend for his comment to be taken in a romantic sense, do we have ANY indication that Sakura is taking care of Naruto, even as a dear friend? She doesn't thank him in 699, there's no interaction, there's no sign that they interact in 700 either.

[Atheck]

Just wondering...why did Minato say "I leave him to you" when he was talking to Sakura (about Naruto). Isn't that supposed to be a significant statement in Japanese culture? That whole interaction (and the 'she's my girlfriend' statement) was one of the things I took as a pretty big indicator of NS being the OTP. There is no way to twist it in favor of NH, it's pretty unequivocal in support of NS.

 

Well in retrospect, some fans may decide to construe the words as referring to the commitment and ability of ensuring that Naruto is at full strength for the battle ahead. Kishi has proven that he's willing to oppose the flow of expectation while leaving false breadcrumb trails for us to pander. Minato's words were just a cleverly disguised ploy intended to throw the readers off - to make us believe that there were romantic connotations underneath the words. Some will argue that this was the true method to Kishi's madness. 

Edited by Atheck, 14 November 2014 - 04:49 AM.

[trang95]

Maybe when kushina said "find a woman like me and not a weird one", kishi actually meant the opposite?
Because kushina also said "stay away from jiraiya" but in the end naruto became jiraiya's pupil and naruto said he was the coolest of the sannins?
 
maybe that's the underneath the underneath?
 
I don't even know anymore...

Kishi's message: Never listen to your mom and do the opposite of what she told you while she was being impaled by kurama's nail. - Thanks for the message Kishi.

[Aizen-Sama]

 
I think it's meant to be that Minato can tell Sakura loves Naruto in some way, and that he knew his son was in good hands with her, even if that just got IGNORED for some damn reason. As James S. Cassidy said in his Hinata's character n-blog, the reason why Hinata wouldn't work with Naruto is simply because she doesn't understand Naruto as well as others do.

Hinata only understands Naruto's pain of being a loser and a drop out. She doesn't know anything about the drama he faces in his life concerning Sasuke Jiraiya the Kyuubi his mother and father etc.
He's never even told Hinata about this but Sakura already knows about the Kyuubi and even met Naruto's dead father.
The greatest thing Sakura has is that she's the only person who can relate to Naruto over the pain of losing Sasuke. She has more connections to him is on his team and can overall understand him better.

[Advaith]

An NS fan i know tried his best to like NH after the last chapter but came back saying that no matter how he tried he can never do that coz he ships NS and most importantly he said he could never like a kitten pairing like NH.

 

I couldn't stop laughing for some time after hearing that.

[trang95]

An NS fan i know tried his best to like NH after the last chapter but came back saying that no matter how he tried he can never do that coz he ships NS and most importantly he said he could never like a sh*tty pairing like NH.
 
I couldn't stop laughing for some time after hearing that.

whom are you talking whom?

Edited by trang95, 14 November 2014 - 04:56 AM.

[Advaith]

about whom are you talking?

A guy from mangafox

[airongstring]

"Persistence doesn't pay off if one party isn't interested in the other."

 

Maybe this applies to Naruto and Sakura? so maybe he noticed Hinata? ugh....especially now that Sasuke "likes" Sakura now..

[Narufan85]

Do people not realize the different between real abuse Sakura suffered at the hands of Sasuke and the fact that the "abuse" Naruto suffers from Sakura is a common trope?

[Rabbit]

But what about Sakura's development? There are more tears that Sakura shed for Naruto than Sasuke. She is even willing to kill Sasuke for Naruto. She even lashed out on Sasuke when he insulted Naruto. Has Kishi forgotten all of it? 

[Ether]

But what about Sakura's development? There are more tears that Sakura shed for Naruto than Sasuke. She is even willing to kill Sasuke for Naruto. She even lashed out on Sasuke when he insulted Naruto. Has Kishi forgotten all of it? 

He didn't forget, he just thought he was writing some beautiful story about forgiveness and kitten (which is why everyone forgives so easily in this manga).

 

BTW, she wasn't going kill Sasuke for Naruto, she was going to kill Sasuke for Sasuke ("because she loves him", remember? Basically everything she ever did in this manga was for Sasuke's sake, save for the CPR scene and that one time in the Chunin exams).

[Rabbit]

He didn't forget, he just thought he was writing some beautiful story about forgiveness and kitten (which is why everyone forgives so easily in this manga).

 

BTW, she wasn't going kill Sasuke for Naruto, she was going to kill Sasuke for Sasuke ("because she loves him", remember? Basically everything she ever did in this manga was for Sasuke's sake, save for the CPR scene and that one time in the Chunin exams).

 

Wasn't she going to kill Sasuke to release Naruto from the POAL?

[LuckyChi7]

one of my subscribers on Youtube told me that chapters 699 and 700 could have a massive change for the final volume since it's suppose to come out in February. He went out to further explain how the japanese fan base are backlashing at how these last two chapters were handled I don't wanna raise hope for anyone by saying this, but is that possible?

 

I don't really think it's likely for that to happen cause I don't think any of the previous volumes had any major change to them. If they did could someone clarify me on that?

Edited by LuckyChi7, 14 November 2014 - 05:31 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Face it, it was all towards NS. Anime knows it, DB knows it, critics know it, the world know it. But I guess that's too predictable because manga is made unpredictable. It's like reading Vince Russo...