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#10801 Atheck

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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:35 AM

Ok, I'll ask the person later; however, I cannot guarantee that he will know the stats. He's simply telling me what he witnesses over there, which I still think tells me a lot more than a few stupid tweets translated by google.
From what I've gathered so far, many people are definitely unhappy and shocked about it. He said that many Japanese people are still very insular in their beliefs; these asspulled pairing did not sit well with them. Besides couples, we all know that Japanese people view mangas very differently than people in the western world since they are able to understand the cultural influences in Naruto. 
I'm just gonna quote what the person said: "People Are just talking about how stupid and down to kitten it all just went. The story total deviated from it's core roots and foundation. Relegated naruto to a background character towards the last few chapters of his own story. This is the first time I have ever read an manga ending where the main character is just eye candy and a fixture in his own manga."[/size]
Apparently, some mangakas are going to redraw the ending- of course, not canonwise, but that tells you that even mangakas hated the ending.[/size]


Thank you for the assistance with this. The statistics are important for reasons already mentioned. Hopefully the Japanese fanbase does what it can to ensure that their voices aren't left unheard. The betrayal and confusion felt needs to be realised by Kishi, the editors, Pierrot, and whoever else collaborated with them to create the filth in those chapters.

Is there any chance that we'll see Kishi go down this route some time later on by creating his originally intended ending?

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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:37 AM

Jop ein grund mehr warum ich noch hier bin, die hoffnung das er zugibt was für einen mist er gemacht hat. Dieser manga hat auch bei mir viel zu viel einfluss gehabt... 

Seitdem der deutsche Sender in Jahre 2006 Naruto gezeigt hat, bin ich ein Naruto fan. Teil Eins war der Hammer und ist ohne Zweifel besser als Teil 2. Ich moechte nicht ACHT JAHRE MEINES LEBENS damit verschwendent haben, so ein Ende zu akzeptieren. Ich weiss, dass Kishi NaruSaku fuers Ende geplant hatte, aber etwas muss seine Meinung geaendert haben.

Ich war frueher ein SasuSaku Vernaht gewesen, aber im Laufe der Zeit hat mich NaruSaku ueberzeugt. Kishi hat die Beziehung zwischen den Beiden auf wundervoller und ueberzeugender Weise praesentiert; Kapitel 663 ist der perfekte Beweis. Aber nein, auf einmal kommt Kapitel 693 mit diesem bescheuerten Liebesgestaendnis und Kapitel 699 und 700 sind ein Mittelfinger fuer jeden Naruto Fan, dem es mehr geht als nur Romanze. 


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:42 AM

Is there any chance that we'll see Kishi go down this route some time later on by creating his originally intended ending?

Doubt it.

At most we'll probably get a confession that he originally intended Naruto and Sakura to be together, if it was solely his decision he might elaborate on why he changed it but he probably won't place any of the blame elsewhere if he was pressured into it. At most it will be something along the lines of "I can't write romance so I left it up to others to decide it" or something of the sort.



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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:43 AM

Ok, I'll ask the person later; however, I cannot guarantee that he will know the stats. He's simply telling me what he witnesses over there, which I still think tells me a lot more than a few stupid tweets translated by google.
From what I've gathered so far, many people are definitely unhappy and shocked about it. He said that many Japanese people are still very insular in their beliefs; these asspulled pairing did not sit well with them. Besides couples, we all know that Japanese people view mangas very differently than people in the western world since they are able to understand the cultural influences in Naruto. 
I'm just gonna quote what the person said: "People Are just talking about how stupid and down to kitten it all just went. The story total deviated from it's core roots and foundation. Relegated naruto to a background character towards the last few chapters of his own story. This is the first time I have ever read an manga ending where the main character is just eye candy and a fixture in his own manga."
Apparently, some mangakas are going to redraw the ending- of course, not canonwise, but that tells you that even mangakas hated the ending.


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:44 AM

Ok, I'll ask the person later; however, I cannot guarantee that he will know the stats. He's simply telling me what he witnesses over there, which I still think tells me a lot more than a few stupid tweets translated by google.

From what I've gathered so far, many people are definitely unhappy and shocked about it. He said that many Japanese people are still very insular in their beliefs; these asspulled pairing did not sit well with them. Besides couples, we all know that Japanese people view mangas very differently than people in the western world since they are able to understand the cultural influences in Naruto. 

I'm just gonna quote what the person said: "People Are just talking about how stupid and down to kitten it all just went. The story total deviated from it's core roots and foundation. Relegated naruto to a background character towards the last few chapters of his own story. This is the first time I have ever read an manga ending where the main character is just eye candy and a fixture in his own manga."

Apparently, some mangakas are going to redraw the ending- of course, not canonwise, but that tells you that even mangakas hated the ending.

Excuse me but I'll have you know that I work very hard to provide those tweets. Sometimes there are so many complaining about the ending that its hard to choose. :P

 

Mangakas are going to re-write the ending??? Has Kishi commented on that at all? 


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:44 AM

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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:46 AM

Doubt it.

At most we'll probably get a confession that he originally intended Naruto and Sakura to be together, if it was solely his decision he might elaborate on why he changed it but he probably won't place any of the blame elsewhere if he was pressured into it. At most it will be something along the lines of "I can't write romance so I left it up to others to decide it" or something of the sort.

You have no idea how disappointed I was when I read that one interview in which he admitted that he was too embarassed to include romance. He let two girls confessed their love to their guys, starting one of the greatest shipping wars in the history of manga. Wtf did he even mention something like this in the first place?!


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:48 AM

Excuse me but I'll have you know that I work very hard to provide those tweets. Sometimes there are so many complaining about the ending that its hard to choose. :P

 

Mangakas are going to re-write the ending??? Has Kishi commented on that at all? 

Ok, I apologize that I called them "stupid". I take that back. I know it takes time to translate them. It's just very hard to understand what the tweets exactly mean.

I don't think Kishi will comment on it at all... The manga was officially released just a few days ago.


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:50 AM

Thank you for the assistance with this. The statistics are important for reasons already mentioned. Hopefully the Japanese fanbase does what it can to ensure that their voices aren't left unheard. The betrayal and confusion felt needs to be realised by Kishi, the editors, Pierrot, and whoever else collaborated with them to create the filth in those chapters.

Is there any chance that we'll see Kishi go down this route some time later on by creating his originally intended ending?

I seriously doubt that.

Until I die, I will hope for a J.K.Rowling miracle, in which Kishi admits that NaruSaku was the initial couple he had in mind and that the ending was just catastrophic.


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:52 AM

Seitdem der deutsche Sender in Jahre 2006 Naruto gezeigt hat, bin ich ein Naruto fan. Teil Eins war der Hammer und ist ohne Zweifel besser als Teil 2. Ich moechte nicht ACHT JAHRE MEINES LEBENS damit verschwendent haben, so ein Ende zu akzeptieren. Ich weiss, dass Kishi NaruSaku fuers Ende geplant hatte, aber etwas muss seine Meinung geaendert haben.

Ich war frueher ein SasuSaku Vernaht gewesen, aber im Laufe der Zeit hat mich NaruSaku ueberzeugt. Kishi hat die Beziehung zwischen den Beiden auf wundervoller und ueberzeugender Weise praesentiert; Kapitel 663 ist der perfekte Beweis. Aber nein, auf einmal kommt Kapitel 693 mit diesem bescheuerten Liebesgestaendnis und Kapitel 699 und 700 sind ein Mittelfinger fuer jeden Naruto Fan, dem es mehr geht als nur Romanze. 

Jo ich hab auch begonnen mit dem anime auf rtl 2 nachdem dragonball gt geendet hat. Ich habs damals eig nur wegen der action geschaut und war damals überhaupt kein"pairing" fan, bis ich älter geworden bin.

Ich hab seit teil 2 auch die ganze zeit geglaubt, das NS 100% das ende ist, dadurch das wir feste beweise hatten, aber naja kishi hat halt die macht alles zu tun egal wie schlecht und lächerlich es rüber kommt.


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:53 AM

I seriously doubt that.

Until I die, I will hope for a J.K.Rowling miracle, in which Kishi admits that NaruSaku was the initial couple he had in mind and that the ending was just catastrophic.

Do you hang out in chatte's theory thread?


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:54 AM

You have no idea how disappointed I was when I read that one interview in which he admitted that he was too embarassed to include romance. He let two girls confessed their love to their guys, starting one of the greatest shipping wars in the history of manga. Wtf did he even mention something like this in the first place?!

The can't write romance part? Yeah that's been in interviews before. The leaving it up to others? No that's just me guessing based some info about The Last that romance being the main theme of the movie was the suggestion of SP. I don't know if the info was true or not, somebody else might be able to answer for me? Considering all of NH's development is being pushed into that movie I wouldn't be surprised though.



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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:54 AM

Ok, I apologize that I called them "stupid". I take that back. I know it takes time to translate them. It's just very hard to understand what the tweets exactly mean.

I don't think Kishi will comment on it at all... The manga was officially released just a few days ago.

That's one hell of an insult though, if other Mangakas need to draw a proper ending for you.


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:57 AM

Jo ich hab auch begonnen mit dem anime auf rtl 2 nachdem dragonball gt geendet hat. Ich habs damals eig nur wegen der action geschaut und war damals überhaupt kein"pairing" fan, bis ich älter geworden bin.

Ich hab seit teil 2 auch die ganze zeit geglaubt, das NS 100% das ende ist, dadurch das wir feste beweise hatten, aber naja kishi hat halt die macht alles zu tun egal wie schlecht und lächerlich es rüber kommt.

Dieses Ende hat mir gezeigt, dass ich mit Mangas einfach vorsichtiger sein muss in der Zukunft. Haette ich nicht solche hohe Erwartungen vom Ende gehabt, wuerde ich mich noch so verletzt und wuetend fuehlen. 


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 12:59 AM

The can't write romance part? Yeah that's been in interviews before. The leaving it up to others? No that's just me guessing based some info about The Last that romance being the main theme of the movie was the suggestion of SP. I don't know if the info was true or not, somebody else might be able to answer for me? Considering all of NH's development is being pushed into that movie I wouldn't be surprised though.

Slextrem told us this info. I cannot guarantee the validity of her post, but if it really is true: Kishi sold out. Period.


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 01:02 AM

Do you hang out in chatte's theory thread?

Yeah I do; it's fun to discuss with others any alternatives ^^

Don't take me wrong: I'm being very careful with the movie and not putting up my hopes to high about it, but neither do I mind helping Chatte and the others out nor do I think what you guys are doing is pointless.


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 01:03 AM

Slextrem told us this info. I cannot guarantee the validity of her post, but if it really is true: Kishi sold out. Period.

 

It's true. It wasn't his idea. It was a staff.

 



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Posted 14 November 2014 - 01:04 AM

Dieses Ende hat mir gezeigt, dass ich mit Mangas einfach vorsichtiger sein muss in der Zukunft. Haette ich nicht solche hohe Erwartungen vom Ende gehabt, wuerde ich mich noch so verletzt und wuetend fuehlen. 

Ich werde generell keine mangas mehr lesen oder animes schauen. Das hat mir gereicht...


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Posted 14 November 2014 - 01:06 AM

Oh, I see how it is. I leave and it gets serious in here.



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Posted 14 November 2014 - 01:07 AM

Don't laugh at that, I'm telling you, that's not normal. If I worked for 15 hours, I would have time to sleep only, considering that a day has 24, you know :wot:


Well, I get about as much sleep as a couple that just had a child, so you're better off than me :chuckle:

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