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[Sojobo]

There are two different options how to interpret hinatas words.
1.) she means that she will stop chasing him after the war, because shes already together with him.
2.) she means that she will stop chasing him after the war, because she knows that she will never get naruto to love her back.

Honestly i always thought that hinata ment the first one, but since 615 im not sure anymore since she already was able to stand by narutos side and was holding his hand and it all happend in the middle of the war not in the end and after the war. It was also made without romantic intentions (at least from narutos side), so im slowly starting to believe that hinata maybe ment the second one.

The second one is more logical to me, not because I'm a NS fan, but I don't see when or where Naruto became in love with her.
When I saw Naruto and Hinata holding hands, it was obvious to me how we should interpretate Hinata's panel about giving up and holding hands.
Now we know for sure that the holding hands part was meant to be on the battle field, and not after war (some NH fans was talking about going out with him lol). I reread it many times, and it is a full contradiction, cause Hinata confirmed that she's ll give up after war.

Hinata : I've always been chasing after you, EVEN NOW...
The even now means that she's doing it right now (means that she didn't stop already)
But ONCE THIS WAR ENDS (means after Obito battle), I'm going TO STOP ONCE AND FOR ALL.
I don't see how you can interpretate this otherwise, SHE'S GIVING UP ON HIM WHEN THIS WAR (a war where they have to protect Naruto) IS OVER. She said it herself.

Next time (was always meant to be on the battlefield), I'll be next to you, holding your hands, wait for me... (it already happened, and it wasn't meant to be romantic)
There was never meant to be some futur about NaruHina, Hinata destroy it herself in chapter 573.
So people can always think that the last chapters are meant to be developpement about Naruto and Hinata, but if you pay good attention on chapter 573, it's already over.

Edited by Sojobo, 18 February 2013 - 02:07 PM.

[sushi.]

But why did she said that shes going to stand next to him holding his hand and will be walking with him. For me that sounds more romantic then just changing the way she acts towards naruto. Its sounds like shes sure that she will be together with naruto after the war ends, but after 615 i think that she maybe ment something different like sojobo pointed out.

@sushi: sorry i relly didnt get the example
@chatte: well lets hope so

I meant to say that Hinata had to do something stimulating enough with Naruto before she is ready to let go of him forever, like holding hands which is kind of a big deal. Because she knows this is her last chance. It's like she thinking that she is not ready now, but after the war she will be. Their lives will be changed forever after this battle.

Edited by sushi., 18 February 2013 - 02:12 PM.

[Chatte]

Most likely Chatte will take of that when she gets on, rather than myself.

Already done...

[PhenixElite]

The second one is more logical to me, not because I'm a NS fan, but I don't see when or where Naruto became in love with her.
When I saw Naruto and Hinata holding hands, it was obvious to me how we should interpretate Hinata's panel about giving up and holding hands.
Now we know for sure that the holding hands part was meant to be on the battle field, and not after war (some NH fans was talking about going out with him lol). I reread it many times, and it is a full contradiction, cause Hinata confirmed that she's ll give up after war.

Hinata : I've always been chasing after you, EVEN NOW...
The even now means that she's doing it right now (means that she didn't stop already)
But ONCE THIS WAR ENDS (means after Obito battle), I'm going TO STOP ONCE AND FOR ALL.
I don't see how you can interpretate this otherwise, SHE'S GIVING UP ON HIM WHEN THIS WAR (a war where they have to protect Naruto) IS OVER. She said it herself.

Next time (was always meant to be on the battlefield), I'll be next to you, holding your hands, wait for me... (it already happened, and it wasn't meant to be romantic)
There was never meant to be some futur about NaruHina, Hinata destroy it herself in chapter 573.
So people can always think that the last chapters are meant to be developpement about Naruto and Hinata, but if you pay good attention on chapter 573, it's already over.

As said, before chapter 615 ive always seen hinatas words as her prediction to be together with him. Of course at that point she couldnt talk for naruto, thats also why a lot of people have seen that as a very selfish statement from hinata.

But well even back chapter 573 ive never felt threatened by what she said. Now its not even relevant anymore since all she predicted happend in the middle of the war without any romance in it. Thats why i felt relieved after 615, before that chapter ive always seen a chance that hinata will hold narutos hand in the end of the manga.
Now everything she wanted to acchieve happened during the battle and remember, the deciding developments for pairings happen in the end, so hinata is out of the picture for me now.

@sushi: yeah, thanks i already got it then when i read it the second time

[HauntedCake]

an important news here:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4087206815/
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4087206823/

Two special "books" will come out on 15 march. The books, named "The words that bonds" will be two: One named "The scroll of Earth" and other "the scroll of Heaven". There will also an interview from Kishimoto. Hope there will be some good things

Are they official? and will they be translated to english?

[六道仙人]

It's as they are translated in theri syntax...

"This book reveals the unique world view of NARUTO and its attractive characters through the many famous scenes and lines together with their English translation."

I think that there'll english translation only about lines and ballons of the manga.

[Chatte]

Well, as long as someone has the books and is willing to share the raws, I'll ask my friend to translate it.
And why do I have the feeling it's going to be with the characters that most impacted Naruto's life?
Cause look at it, we have the dark side and the light side, somehow.

And I think it's in the order of importance, somehow.
On the light side we have: Sakura, Kakashi, Shikamaru, Pein [not too light but helped him with his resolve big time, probably that's why it's drawn with the back at us], Minato.
On the dark side we have: Sasuke, Gaara, Obito, Itachi and Bee.
I know that on the dark-side we have characters like Bee who wouldn't kind of fit there, but may be connected with the dark side because he helped him in the resolve with his dark side at the waterfall of truth.
Dunno, that's how I see it.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It's as they are translated in theri syntax...

"This book reveals the unique world view of NARUTO and its attractive characters through the many famous scenes and lines together with their English translation."

I think that there'll english translation only about lines and ballons of the manga.

I cannot help to think it's a world building book, i think kishi already made the ending long time ago and this Keiji Taira probably is going to continue Naruto's work but something like 1000 years ahead on the future with other characters and another story in other words another story but on the same universe.

Or it might be a book with "scroll of earth" means all the scenes on Naruto's standpoint and "scroll of heaven" from Sakura's.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 18 February 2013 - 02:51 PM.

[rocci]

I cannot help to think it's a world building book, i think kishi already made the ending long time ago and this Keiji Taira probably is going to continue Naruto's work but something like 1000 years ahead on the future with other characters and another story in other words another story but on the same universe.

Or it might be a book with "scroll of earth" means all the scenes on Naruto's standpoint and "scroll of heaven" from Sakura's.

bold : really!? wow that would be awesome

but i don't want to put my hope high. btw who geneourus enough to buy it for this forum

[AzureWaters]

I don't see where I'm wrong ?
She said that she'll be next to him at THE BATTLEFIELD, HOLDING HIS HANDS, and she did.
But the giving up thing is AFTER WAR, and war isn't finished yet.

No she does not. Her exact line is " I've always, always been chasing after you... even now. But once this war ends, I will stop once and for all. Next time I'll be next to you, holding your hand, walking with you. Wait for me."

The giving up part was Hinata saying that she would give up chasing Naruto, because after the war she'll be beside him and holding his hand. Her words weren't meant to show her actually giving up on Naruto, but enforcing that she wouldn't have to chase after him anymore -because Naruto would reciprocate-, at least on some level.

I think her words had romantic undertones, as there's not much else way to take her 'I've always been chasing you", really.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

the two books together costs $15.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 18 February 2013 - 03:01 PM.

[sushi.]

Is this written by Kishi?

[narulsaku]

wait wait what actually are these books?

Edited by narulsaku, 18 February 2013 - 03:17 PM.

[六道仙人]

Is this written by Kishi?

no. There's only a his interview inside. Those books wll talk bout the bonds of the characters (Kizuna). A critic will analize each scene.

The one manga critic will be

ITO Go [Manga Critic / Associate Professor, Tokyo Polytechnic University]

He's pretty famous in homeland

Edited by 六道仙人, 18 February 2013 - 03:34 PM.

[T XD]

The two books will be written in Japanese, so till they're translated, they're going to take like a few months or so.

I like the titles of the two books XD. Makes you wonder why the author has make them named after Kishi's naming for Naruto and Sakura.

Edited by T XD, 18 February 2013 - 03:40 PM.

[Tsubaki]

One thing about Hinata's confession: If it was so amazing in the manga as people try to make it be, the anime team wouldn't have completely changed her confession in the anime.

[Codus N]

no. There's only a his interview inside. Those books wll talk bout the bonds of the characters (Kizuna). A critic will analize each scene.

The one manga critic will be



He's pretty famous in homeland

Now, this is what I wanna see. A renowned (Japanese) manga critic reviewing the character relationships and how it ties and affects the storytelling?? I'm sold. Will be very interesting to see him touch on Naruto's relationship with Sakura. And if it's true that it's going to have English translation in it, I will so beg on the floor for someone to post it. In the most non-biased way, of course.

And actually, I think the critic will focus on the characters on the covers. If this is going to analyze the relationships and bonds in the manga, then it would no doubt specifically highlight Naruto's bonds. The characters on the covers are people who have forged bonds with Naruto that were highly focused on in the manga. We have Pain, Minato, Sasuke, and Tobi (antagonistic bond). Even Shikamaru is in. And yet..... why is a certain character left out?? obvious much??

Edited by Codus N, 18 February 2013 - 04:05 PM.

[narusakurama]

One thing about Hinata's confession: If it was so amazing in the manga as people try to make it be, the anime team wouldn't have completely changed her confession in the anime.

Makes you wonder what they'll do with 615 in the anime ... probably going to be the same as with the confession and add their own biased stuff

[Canadian_DJ]

Here we go again, i also have been told that more people should have died on the pain arc with no ressurrection, have been told that Team Taka was going to be disposed but an editor stopped him, all this by a friend that have a friend that work directly with Kishimoto.
Despite all of this i dont trust this source, he even told me that kishi didnt made 573 because he had an injury on his hand and he was unable to draw.

More that kishi is pissed off because he cant draw the story as he intended to want and so more...
For me is just an excuse to make the fans hear what they want to hear.

Lol I agree, oh but, not to mention he cut his hand while opening a can of tuna.....uhu you heard me right a can of TUNA......'

And actually masashi did say that sakura was honest with a suprising determination, and he said that sakura loved sasuke and naruto is close!!

Nuff' said.

[TouKen4Life3g]

hmm for me the good poster is inferno, narusaku4life, and darkest.

Aw, stop. I have gone bright red. But really, good poster can come from many places, it's the matter of time when one poster decides to put their heart to it.

an important news here:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4087206815/
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4087206823/

Two special "books" will come out on 15 march. The books, named "The words that bonds" will be two: One named "The scroll of Earth" and other "the scroll of Heaven". There will also an interview from Kishimoto. Hope there will be some good things

Oh, that's pretty interesting. You see, people. I told you. Hinata is a very important character to the story. She's on the front cover on either side. That's how much Kishi cares.

*Looks at both*

Um, sorry. False alarm.