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[Gaara's hair]

Let's get this corrected:

Hatted isn't an SS fan or rather trying to tell you SS is the best. Instead, he thought that people in here are delusional so to speak (no offense if you do believe) to think NS ending was always planned and the Gaiden and movie will prove it by actually happening. So I can tell him that we are only fooling around. We all know it's done deed, so we're just here to mess around with the series because honestly, who hasn't already.

Thank you for clearing that up. It was haunting my dreams. I didn't know if Hatted was a ss fan or not.

 

I'm kidding Hatted! Don't worry

[James S Cassidy]

The biggest issue this manga probably has is it's lack of consistency. The story literally changes just to suit the next "fact" that needs to be pushed. Characters are changing their habits and their motives just to suit the situation at hand or "whatever pushes the story forward." Unfortunately this is not exactly a new concept to the Naruto story, but it has gotten far worse.

In the original manga, the story only did it when it needed to push it froward such as the random asspull in there. The war arc has them happen like every so often to once again push it hard forward, however they were spaced at least so the story stayed...relatively consistent in a certain aspect.

Now, however, the story is even changing the memories of the original manga every page just to suit the story and so many things are either being ignored or overlooked by even the writer himself. All these details that are just being solved in the most anti-climatic way.

This manga is leaving me with more questions than it can answer.

I can't find it individually, but I feel like Edd in this situation:

Go to about 3:35 to see my reaction basically.
https://youtu.be/4uGJoNlr5ys

 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 27 June 2015 - 06:07 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I read chapter 5. It just occur to me. Who the hell was Shin hiding from? He never met Sasuke with that cloth.

[Bail o' Lies]

 

You are considering the 900,000 copies sold in its finale volume? Don't even count that. just look at all the other light novels. kaka Hidden made like 66,000 in its first week and most of the light novels are like that. That tells you how much people that are left in the fandom. Sure, they probably read it every week with the SJ issue, but are these fans going to seriously purchase the mini manga series when its available? I don't thinks so, its just shipping-tards and causal fans. And the light novels tells you how much people are actually buying kishi's kitten poopie.

I really wish it was easier to track down the sales figure...Also i wished i would finally bookmark it when i get it. Found it again. I'll just tell everyone the numbers. By the end of the first half of the year The hiden series in total sold 451,359 Kakashi's sold 166,219 of that Shikamaru's was 116,194, Sakura's was 95,318 sold by the end of May. The fifth one has sold about 44,000 it's first week and 67,252 currently with the other finally being dropped off from the rankings. The site i found also keeps is confusing the novels volume number for the recent ones.

 

Kakashi's was really the one that hung in their for the longest and sold about 180,000 copies. The seem to sell around 100,000 copies and then drops off. It could be that they want the series in total to sell over a million so they added the other three.

[Bail o' Lies]

 

your Thoughts people ???

When has we seen Bolt mold chakra? Beyond that it just means it hold over from when the boy was originally suppose to be a NS kid and since kishi one has always been lazy and two doesn't give a kitten any more it stayed.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 27 June 2015 - 06:49 PM.

[Namikaze Clan]

When was it shown that Sakura's chakra color was green? Besides the healing jutsu?

[Narufan85]

So one of my favorite fanfic authors has decided to discontinue all their current Naruto projects citing a growing disillusionment with the manga post-Pein. The author, in particular, cited how Kishi seems to no longer have any respect for his work and that Gaiden is absolutely terrible. I thought this was pretty powerful, since, to my knowledge, the author doesn't have a big investment in the NH/NS/SS wars. In fact, most of the fics are well-written crack pairings.

 

Anyway, I read a few reviews to the statement and one left me thinking. The reviewer commented about how everything in Gaiden (and really, the war arc) revolves around the Sharingan and whatever weird mythology or history Kishi wants to create thanks to stupid crap the Uchiha can do. The reviewer references the good old days when the manga was about cherishing friendship, struggling to persevere when the odds were stacked against you, and trying to find good in an evil and violent world.

And isn't that the truth? I sometimes wonder what happened to cause such a drastic shift in the tone of Naruto. It's really kinda sad. I have such affection for Part I.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

 

Love is pain. Pain is love.

 

You always hurt the one you love? XP

[Nostradamus]

So one of my favorite fanfic authors has decided to discontinue all their current Naruto projects citing a growing disillusionment with the manga post-Pein. The author, in particular, cited how Kishi seems to no longer have any respect for his work and that Gaiden is absolutely terrible. I thought this was pretty powerful, since, to my knowledge, the author doesn't have a big investment in the NH/NS/SS wars. In fact, most of the fics are well-written crack pairings.

 

Anyway, I read a few reviews to the statement and one left me thinking. The reviewer commented about how everything in Gaiden (and really, the war arc) revolves around the Sharingan and whatever weird mythology or history Kishi wants to create thanks to stupid crap the Uchiha can do. The reviewer references the good old days when the manga was about cherishing friendship, struggling to persevere when the odds were stacked against you, and trying to find good in an evil and violent world.

And isn't that the truth? I sometimes wonder what happened to cause such a drastic shift in the tone of Naruto. It's really kinda sad. I have such affection for Part I.

His original editor left that's what happened. The one who actually had good ideas and the balls to do what he wanted without being influenced by others.

Edited by Nostradamus, 27 June 2015 - 08:57 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

 

You always hurt the one you love? XP

 

I hope not.  Though I don't actually love anyone who isn't family.

[Gaara's hair]

 

I hope not.  Though I don't actually love anyone who isn't family.

Commander What about our twenty year friendship

[TheFirstEvil100]

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Commander What about our twenty year friendship

 

I suppose I can make an exception, just this once.

 

[Gaara's hair]

 

I suppose I can make an exception, just this once.

 

I'm special

[Catra]

someone say pain? cuz he's best villain

[tricksie]

So one of my favorite fanfic authors has decided to discontinue all their current Naruto projects citing a growing disillusionment with the manga post-Pein. The author, in particular, cited how Kishi seems to no longer have any respect for his work and that Gaiden is absolutely terrible. I thought this was pretty powerful, since, to my knowledge, the author doesn't have a big investment in the NH/NS/SS wars. In fact, most of the fics are well-written crack pairings.

 

Anyway, I read a few reviews to the statement and one left me thinking. The reviewer commented about how everything in Gaiden (and really, the war arc) revolves around the Sharingan and whatever weird mythology or history Kishi wants to create thanks to stupid crap the Uchiha can do. The reviewer references the good old days when the manga was about cherishing friendship, struggling to persevere when the odds were stacked against you, and trying to find good in an evil and violent world.

And isn't that the truth? I sometimes wonder what happened to cause such a drastic shift in the tone of Naruto. It's really kinda sad. I have such affection for Part I.

That's the worst thing you can do is drop your fic work just because Kishimoto screwed up his. Too bad that the author's chosen to go that route. 

 

Personally, I have no use for much of anything after the Pain arc. It's scattered, with confused motivations and end goals, where even the final villain(s) ended up a muddled mess. There are a few moments that are usable in some fic stories (Sakura's confession, Sasuke's attack on Danzo and Karin), but for the most part it's a mess.

 

Pre-Pain, the Akatsuki, the goal of getting the jinchurikis, Naruto and Sakura's relationship, Sasuke out of the village with an unknown motivation — all of that really holds together. 

 

As a writer, if it weren't for the per-Pain story, if we only had post-Pain and the war arc, I wouldn't be writing fics for Naruto. I probably wouldn't even be interested in it.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

That's the worst thing you can do is drop your fic work just because Kishimoto screwed up his. Too bad that the author's chosen to go that route. 

 

Personally, I have no use for much of anything after the Pain arc. It's scattered, with confused motivations and end goals, where even the final villain(s) ended up a muddled mess. There are a few moments that are usable in some fic stories (Sakura's confession, Sasuke's attack on Danzo and Karin), but for the most part it's a mess.

 

Pre-Pain, the Akatsuki, the goal of getting the jinchurikis, Naruto and Sakura's relationship, Sasuke out of the village with an unknown motivation — all of that really holds together. 

 

As a writer, if it weren't for the per-Pain story, if we only had post-Pain and the war arc, I wouldn't be writing fics for Naruto. I probably wouldn't even be interested in it.

 

You're preaching to the choir, Tricks. It's why for my fanfic, I am gonna use that same attitude with my fanfic; using elements of Part 1, and early Shippudenw ithout too many changes as well as some stuff that was usable. I also plan to actually take some chances that Kishi didn't do, like trying to explore the ideas of the Uzumaki clan and such.

 

I also plan to take some of the elements from the war arc, yet I also plan to make some things clear as a whistle! :) I'm all set up on Tumblr with the prologue and first episode up at http://bryonyoungblood.tumblr.com/ as well as working on the second episode Focus on the characters in a GOOD way is my main goal, so I want to make sure I can do it right.

[Narufan85]

That's the worst thing you can do is drop your fic work just because Kishimoto screwed up his. Too bad that the author's chosen to go that route. 

 

Personally, I have no use for much of anything after the Pain arc. It's scattered, with confused motivations and end goals, where even the final villain(s) ended up a muddled mess. There are a few moments that are usable in some fic stories (Sakura's confession, Sasuke's attack on Danzo and Karin), but for the most part it's a mess.

 

Pre-Pain, the Akatsuki, the goal of getting the jinchurikis, Naruto and Sakura's relationship, Sasuke out of the village with an unknown motivation — all of that really holds together. 

 

As a writer, if it weren't for the per-Pain story, if we only had post-Pain and the war arc, I wouldn't be writing fics for Naruto. I probably wouldn't even be interested in it.

 

Yeah I was pretty bummed out as a reader. But I was a bit surprised, because s/he hasn't ever been overly concerned with sticking to canon. Most have been AU stuff that simply follows the general timeline.

 

I suppose I do understand feeling disillusioned thanks to the garbage that is Gaiden, though.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

Yeah I was pretty bummed out as a reader. But I was a bit surprised, because s/he hasn't ever been overly concerned with sticking to canon. Most have been AU stuff that simply follows the general timeline.

 

I suppose I do understand feeling disillusioned thanks to the garbage that is Gaiden, though.

 

Considering Gaiden is a POS story, I don't blame the writer either, but it still is a drag to give up. I was tempted to do it too, since I was just TIRED of the BS. Tired of being forced to accept the failures Kishi had given us, tired of NH and SS being asses about their "win", etc. But I just have begun to rework on my fanfic so that I can succeed on what I want to do; tell my vision of Naruto so that Kishi's vision, his selling out, will not hurt me.

[Nar123]

 

Yeah I was pretty bummed out as a reader. But I was a bit surprised, because s/he hasn't ever been overly concerned with sticking to canon. Most have been AU stuff that simply follows the general timeline.

 

I suppose I do understand feeling disillusioned thanks to the garbage that is Gaiden, though.

 

May I inquire who this author was? You can answer me by PM if you don't want to say it here for everyone to see

 

Also this post of yours

 

 

Anyway, I read a few reviews to the statement and one left me thinking. The reviewer commented about how everything in Gaiden (and really, the war arc) revolves around the Sharingan and whatever weird mythology or history Kishi wants to create thanks to stupid crap the Uchiha can do. The reviewer references the good old days when the manga was about cherishing friendship, struggling to persevere when the odds were stacked against you, and trying to find good in an evil and violent world.

And isn't that the truth? I sometimes wonder what happened to cause such a drastic shift in the tone of Naruto. It's really kinda sad. I have such affection for Part I.

 

 

Edited by Nar123, 28 June 2015 - 12:13 AM.