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[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't think anyone one of us think that way. I don't know.

[Miiami]

Are people here trying to claim that Hinata and Orihime are basically the same character? Are you guys for real?

 

Maybe I should say that Ichigo is exactly that same character as Naruto. Come on guys, us thought you were better than that. The only thing that Orihime and Hinata have in common is that they love the main character, but how they act is way different.

 

Hinata is a shy and timid girl, and Orihime is a quirky lovable girl. Hinata only interacts with Naruto when her development is needed, but Orihime is actually part of Ichigo's core group of friends. Hinata only involves herself with Naruto when she needs growth, but we've actually seen Orihime interact with Ichigo in a very friendly and fun way. Not to mention that Hinata thinks most of the time about Naruto, but Orihime has all of her friends in her thoughts. Orihime has more depth to her than anything Hinata could aspire to be.

 

It's pretty close minded to just brush off Orihime as being like Hinata just based on their liking of the main character.

No one said that they're completely same, they just have things in common. If we had to compare development, it's pretty hard because Hinata has little screen time due her being support character.
 

[redragon88]

No one said that they're completely same, they just have things in common. If we had to compare development, it's pretty hard because Hinata has little screen time due her being support character.
 

 

Liking the main character is about the only thing they have in common. When it comes to personality they are very different.

[Isian]

 

Liking the main character is about the only thing they have in common. When it comes to personality they are very different.

 

I agree, Although they both deal with a few self esteem problems occasionally and they both seemly aquire confidence round naruto.

 

Sorry i cant seem to get this quote thing to co operate aha

[咲耶姫]

 

Liking the main character is about the only thing they have in common. When it comes to personality they are very different.

 

I agree, the forst time I saw Orihime, the only thing that reminded me of Hinata was the fact that Orihime liked Ichigo. But even there, their way of liking the main character is different. Orihime seems to "love" more then "like" because she actually know Ichigo, she likes his being, his qualities like his flaws along with his personnality. While Hinata is all about nindô, nindô, nindô, she only knows him as a ninja. Whereas Orihime knows Ichigo as a person and not only as a shinigami. 

 

And it's true that teir personnality are very different. Orihime is not shy, she's more outgoing and a little crazy. That's why I could like her character but all her "Kurosaki-kun" ar too irritating. 

[Isian]

Woah i read that wrong... Sorry guys aha

[Isian]

I withdraw my previous posts.

[Phantom_999]

Hey guys, I found the perfect song to play whenever we hear an NH argument that basically states, " I don't prefer Sakura"

 

 

Note that I say ONLY to those NH arguments that boil down to "I dislike Sakura so Naruto should get with Hinata"

 

Again not bashing here but whenever we come across NH/Hinata fans fans that do not acknowledge our pairing or Sakura in general at all,this tune just pops up in my head.  

Edited by Phantom_999, 04 November 2013 - 03:30 PM.

[Inferno180]

So chapter this week gonna be a suprise again on Tuesday or regular wendsday?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Wednesday.

[redragon88]

That moment when you read a comment saying that Naruto doesn't like Sakura that much and is fine with SS happening.

 

I hate you NF. (except for the fanclubs)

Edited by redragon88, 04 November 2013 - 05:18 PM.

[rocci]

@reddragon
Kishi intentionally hide naruto feeling for almost entirely part 2.
And what make nh become soo possible because of it.
Just Because naruto never say/thought he love sakura, doesn't mean he already over her. I mean look at jiraiya and obito.
But since parallel is strong, we should Deny it.

Oh just hurt sakura, and let see if naruto will act like obito or ignore her.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

@reddragon
Kishi intentionally hide naruto feeling for almost entirely part 2.
And what make nh become soo possible because of it.
Just Because naruto never say/thought he love sakura, doesn't mean he already over her. I mean look at jiraiya and obito.
But since parallel is strong, we should Deny it.

Oh just hurt sakura, and let see if naruto will act like obito or ignore her.

He didnt hide his feelings.
It was kinda obvious that he liked her hence the date requests and parts where he blush towards her and all, like feeding scene and etc...

Blame biased people on this who claims that Naruto is over Sakura with no basis but even with hard hints coming from Sakura towards Naruto they claim it's the otherwise, and double standards like saying Sakura will never stop loving Sasuek but yet Naruto will stop loving Sakura and etc...

Kishi only explained why Naruto didnt took a more serious approach on Sakura because he felt unworthy of her and didnt fullfilled the promise and that's all.

 

There's a name for it, fanboyism.

 

Sai's flashback he says that he confirms that he loves her.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 04 November 2013 - 05:37 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It's not like we have to know 24/7.

[Inferno180]

Honestly when it comes to the pairings wars, nothing is bad about debating it, but the thing I honestly find the worst is when people rather than try to prove or promote their pairing, they instead resort to twisting the meaning of some moments between others.

 

This can be on both ends, i'm sure there have been plenty of NS fans twisting the meaning of some NH moments. But the extent I mean is like this:

 

Yamato telling sakura the its not a matter of what you do for Naruto, its only her feelings that make a difference. Yet since he didn't finish his sentience to sakura before Naruto woke up, we know it would be "you really love him" but others tried to twist it as "you really have to have more confidence in yourself."

 

Seriously does that make sense? Yamato's entire prior statement was "Its doesn't matter that the things you do for naruto are big or small, its how strongly you feel about Naruto that counts." Yet we are supposed to suspect that Yamato's statement ending after this, that the unsaid statement is him talking about Sakura needing to believe in herself to do stuff for Naruto rather than her feelings? Does this seriously make any sense in the least?

 

Its the same with how people try to say: "Naruto didn't react to Sakura's hug cause he was getting over her." "Naruto knew Sakura was lying and got over her, he knew she was using him and decided to move on." "Naruto is just joking with Sakura to annoy her in front of his dad." Naruto is know so scared of sakura, he won't love her anymore because of that power."

 

This is my reaction to statements like that in this order  

 

Seriously, selective reader or pairing goggles, stuff like this makes so sense. Naruto was suprised at Sakura's hug because he knew she was angry but didn't expect the warm reaction after the hit. He was speechless cause Sakura never hugged him before. Naruto knew Sakura was lying because there was no point of her to travel so far for only telling him a fake confession, that she hid something, even then just for his wellbeing. Naruto's statement to Minato, though a joke its still something for the reader to keep an eye on, even then if he really considers Sakura his girlfriend or likes the idea of it, well he is still focused on her rather than Hinata. Finally the big smash scene he freaks out, its just comedy, simple comedy, the same reaction he had when he first saw this power of hers.

 

Why do people spend their time twisting stuff like this to the point it makes no sense? It doesn't add up with saying it this way.

 

I mean we have some twisting on our end with NH moments, but as we said "Naruto held her hand out of thanks and chakra transfer" compared to "out of love and choosing her over Sakura" well, ours at least holds some ground because yeah Naruto held her hand but the treatment was nothing special for her. Everyone got it. He thanked her but he still sees Sakura more apparently. Neji's sacrifice didn't even have some kind of love focus for NH as many thought at first, apparently it was just mostly out of his own choice to end the story of the hyuga, opposite of how neji thought he was stuck in life by destiny and hated Naruto and Hinata, to freely chosing to end his life to protect them. Thats all it was. As of now, presently from what we have seen, 615 is mainly HInata, Naruto hasn't given it a second thought, rather focusing on Neji as he should be. Hinata should be focusing on Neji more than loving naruto which, I still have to say, I was ultimately disgusted with Hinata just seemingly glossing over nejis death is like she is sad and angry at Naruto (slapping him) telling him why everyone is fighting, then Naruto stands up and its all mushy feelings in her head. Lee cried over Neji at least. And then people go saying Sakura let him die. Seriously, this is even worse then twisting NS moments, some genius tried to add some form of guilt or fault on Sakura because she could not heal him. I'm just going to say, there are limits to even the best people, not to mention Neji had an 2 or more huge wooden stakes in him, that had to punch a hole and rip apart his stomach, lungs, heart, and more. It was a freaking painful event Sakura could not heal, people need to get over this. She was too far away and Neji was too far injured. Nothing could be done. Even if Sakura made it in time, how quickly could she keep him up when his lungs, heart, and stomach were wide open along with blood just quickly out at everypoint in the injury, what did people expect? Sakura to remove the stake and use chakra to just stich him back together? No it doesn't work like that. Neji died faster than anyone could react, thats it.

 

And at this point, its like he died for practically nothing if even Hinata isn't bothered seemingly that much. Sorry thats just it. Neji's death may have been one of the worst parts in the series just to give HInata a sect of minimal development. If HInata's ending doesn't carry out Neji's legacy in someway with respect to her own character, HInata is really one of the most overrated characters ever and people should honesty be ashamed because of such minimal aspects to gain such worship at the cost of an actual greatly developed and important character.

[arian_rad]

Something I realized is that kishi has recently been tying up all the loose ends that he has had in the manga in the very early chapters. This could definitely lead to an important narusaku moment that we have all been waiting for. One was when Kurama and naruto became partners tying up the entire conversation between iruka and naruto in chapter one with Kurama not being the monster fox anymore. Now, we got the speech naruto gave to konohamaru in chapter 2 coming back in 653 with the whole "no shortcuts to hokage". Now what's next? I'm hoping tying up the loose end in chapter 3 is the next move kishi plans on doing.

[BlueStarSaber]

Honestly when it comes to the pairings wars, nothing is bad about debating it, but the thing I honestly find the worst is when people rather than try to prove or promote their pairing, they instead resort to twisting the meaning of some moments between others.
 
This can be on both ends, i'm sure there have been plenty of NS fans twisting the meaning of some NH moments. But the extent I mean is like this:
 
Yamato telling sakura the its not a matter of what you do for Naruto, its only her feelings that make a difference. Yet since he didn't finish his sentience to sakura before Naruto woke up, we know it would be "you really love him" but others tried to twist it as "you really have to have more confidence in yourself."
 
Seriously does that make sense? Yamato's entire prior statement was "Its doesn't matter that the things you do for naruto are big or small, its how strongly you feel about Naruto that counts." Yet we are supposed to suspect that Yamato's statement ending after this, that the unsaid statement is him talking about Sakura needing to believe in herself to do stuff for Naruto rather than her feelings? Does this seriously make any sense in the least?
 
Its the same with how people try to say: "Naruto didn't react to Sakura's hug cause he was getting over her." "Naruto knew Sakura was lying and got over her, he knew she was using him and decided to move on." "Naruto is just joking with Sakura to annoy her in front of his dad." Naruto is know so scared of sakura, he won't love her anymore because of that power."
 
This is my reaction to statements like that in this order  
 
Seriously, selective reader or pairing goggles, stuff like this makes so sense. Naruto was suprised at Sakura's hug because he knew she was angry but didn't expect the warm reaction after the hit. He was speechless cause Sakura never hugged him before. Naruto knew Sakura was lying because there was no point of her to travel so far for only telling him a fake confession, that she hid something, even then just for his wellbeing. Naruto's statement to Minato, though a joke its still something for the reader to keep an eye on, even then if he really considers Sakura his girlfriend or likes the idea of it, well he is still focused on her rather than Hinata. Finally the big smash scene he freaks out, its just comedy, simple comedy, the same reaction he had when he first saw this power of hers.
 
Why do people spend their time twisting stuff like this to the point it makes no sense? It doesn't add up with saying it this way.
 
I mean we have some twisting on our end with NH moments, but as we said "Naruto held her hand out of thanks and chakra transfer" compared to "out of love and choosing her over Sakura" well, ours at least holds some ground because yeah Naruto held her hand but the treatment was nothing special for her. Everyone got it. He thanked her but he still sees Sakura more apparently. Neji's sacrifice didn't even have some kind of love focus for NH as many thought at first, apparently it was just mostly out of his own choice to end the story of the hyuga, opposite of how neji thought he was stuck in life by destiny and hated Naruto and Hinata, to freely chosing to end his life to protect them. Thats all it was. As of now, presently from what we have seen, 615 is mainly HInata, Naruto hasn't given it a second thought, rather focusing on Neji as he should be. Hinata should be focusing on Neji more than loving naruto which, I still have to say, I was ultimately disgusted with Hinata just seemingly glossing over nejis death is like she is sad and angry at Naruto (slapping him) telling him why everyone is fighting, then Naruto stands up and its all mushy feelings in her head. Lee cried over Neji at least. And then people go saying Sakura let him die. Seriously, this is even worse then twisting NS moments, some genius tried to add some form of guilt or fault on Sakura because she could not heal him. I'm just going to say, there are limits to even the best people, not to mention Neji had an 2 or more huge wooden stakes in him, that had to punch a hole and rip apart his stomach, lungs, heart, and more. It was a freaking painful event Sakura could not heal, people need to get over this. She was too far away and Neji was too far injured. Nothing could be done. Even if Sakura made it in time, how quickly could she keep him up when his lungs, heart, and stomach were wide open along with blood just quickly out at everypoint in the injury, what did people expect? Sakura to remove the stake and use chakra to just stich him back together? No it doesn't work like that. Neji died faster than anyone could react, thats it.
 
And at this point, its like he died for practically nothing if even Hinata isn't bothered seemingly that much. Sorry thats just it. Neji's death may have been one of the worst parts in the series just to give HInata a sect of minimal development. If HInata's ending doesn't carry out Neji's legacy in someway with respect to her own character, HInata is really one of the most overrated characters ever and people should honesty be ashamed because of such minimal aspects to gain such worship at the cost of an actual greatly developed and important character.

I thought Neji's death was pretty good, true I wished for about more of him but I liked that it was unexpected. I say the bad part of it is how Hinata keeps thinking about Naruto's hand in the aftermath of it.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

I thought Neji's death was pretty good, true I wished for about more of him but I liked that it was unexpected. I say the bad part of it is how Hinata keeps thinking about Naruto's hand in the aftermath of it.

 

I feel Neji's death was just pointless and poorly handled and he and Naruto were really not that close. I kinda would have liked for Kishi to use perhaps Iruka instead. Where is that guy anyway?

[Inferno180]

I thought Neji's death was pretty good, true I wished for about more of him but I liked that it was unexpected. I say the bad part of it is how Hinata keeps thinking about Naruto's hand in the aftermath of it.

 

And this just goes further at this point with which girl is more centric to their crush? Sakura or Hinata? Sakura's at least changed, she knows Naruto's ordeals, tries to help him, and she fully supports his dream and now she is untrusting of sasuke, so why do people suscept her to magically stay in love with him? For Sasuke to just return those feelings out of nowhere? For years people have said Sakura is always Sasuke kun this and that, apparently not anymore since even with the guy she "loves" present on the battlefield, look how much she has focused on naruto. Hinata on the other hand, all Naruto kun this and that, not even focusing on Neji's death. I seriously thought for a time, when people raged at Sakura and called her a you know what, I honestly felt disgusted with Hinata just thinking of Naruto's hand like Neji's death was nothing. Its almost like Neji didn't matter. The death ended the hyuga story but seriously its naruto focusing on the death, not Hinata. After that even with recent events like Shikamaru being healed, we still see her going I want to be by his side. At this point, what remains for Hinata thats even possible for needed merit and growth aside from the ending development she has with her own clan and father? Yes there is going to be some ending development with Naruto, but to the extent of love, I just cannot see it when Naruto's merits as the hero and Sakura's own ordeal between what Naruto has done and what Sasuke has become is a major plot point not just on her but the story and future of team 7 which is highly tied into the main plot focusing on team 7, namely Naruto and Sasuke.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Something I realized is that kishi has recently been tying up all the loose ends that he has had in the manga in the very early chapters. This could definitely lead to an important narusaku moment that we have all been waiting for. One was when Kurama and naruto became partners tying up the entire conversation between iruka and naruto in chapter one with Kurama not being the monster fox anymore. Now, we got the speech naruto gave to konohamaru in chapter 2 coming back in 653 with the whole "no shortcuts to hokage". Now what's next? I'm hoping tying up the loose end in chapter 3 is the next move kishi plans on doing.

Bingo.

It's coming, you guys. There's nothing to fear but fear itself.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 04 November 2013 - 07:36 PM.