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[T XD]

My goodness, four parallels. That's so much that it's hard to ignore.

One parallel, and it's enough for everyone. What about four parallels ?

[TouKen4Life3g]

One parallel, and it's enough for everyone. What about four parallels ?

Seriously...I was fine with Sannins, but then we got a glimpse of old Team 7, then Naruto's parents, then full fledge old Team 7, and now, this.

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[quote name='sushi.' date='Feb 17 2013, 04:50 PM' post='438946']
Well, we have been bombed with parallells from all sides. XD MinaKushi, ObiRin, even DanxTsunade. That's all, because Naruto hasn't really interacted with Sakura personally. Because they are in a war, they need their mind set on the battle.


I see, dang havent been here for a while and not much has changed.....I do remember when Naruto saved Sakura....from sasuke (which was badass btw). Can you elaborate on the parallels? I think the Minato Kusi is obviouse cause well they look like each other and Sakura acts like Narutos mom I believe, but can u elborate on the others?

[TouKen4Life3g]

I see, dang havent been here for a while and not much has changed.....I do remember when Naruto saved Sakura....from sasuke (which was badass btw). Can you elaborate on the parallels? I think the Minato Kusi is obviouse cause well they look like each other and Sakura acts like Narutos mom I believe, but can u elborate on the others?

I have to go, but I can say for Obito/Rin. Think as literally almost the same as what happened with Team 7. Rin loves Kakashi, Obito loves Rin, Kakashi is an a--hole, Obito is a big loser but never gives up, he wanted to be Hokage, Rin wished him the best and Obito got that Naruto's smile when Rin is happy, it hurts Obito to know Rin loves Kakashi, and Obito is a goofball. I would let others fill me in.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 17 February 2013 - 10:50 PM.

[sushi.]

Well, we have been bombed with parallells from all sides. XD MinaKushi, ObiRin, even DanxTsunade. That's all, because Naruto hasn't really interacted with Sakura personally. Because they are in a war, they need their mind set on the battle.


I see, dang havent been here for a while and not much has changed.....I do remember when Naruto saved Sakura....from sasuke (which was badass btw). Can you elaborate on the parallels? I think the Minato Kusi is obviouse cause well they look like each other and Sakura acts like Narutos mom I believe, but can u elborate on the others?

We have discussed ObiRin to death, so I'll start with Dan and Tsunade.

Naruto is the only one who has been directly compared to Dan, by the one who knows him the most(Tsunade herself.) This happened in part 1, when she and Naruto just met. I saw no similarities between him and Dan, except for the common dream they have to be Hokage. Then Tsunade and Dan meet again, and guess what - he kisses her on the forehead! XD It tells me that Naruto will do the same soon. It's not even too much to ask for, I'm hoping for a kiss on the lips, but I will only expect a forehead kiss.

ObiRin is simply put a twisted and failed version of NS. Obito didn't even get the chance to confess. D:

Edited by sushi., 17 February 2013 - 10:51 PM.

[六道仙人]

By the way, could you imagine what would be the union of an Uchiha and a Uzumaki (Sasuke + Karin)? They practically would have some childrens with the Rinnegan ... Given that the Uzumaki are related to the Senju.

[sushi.]

By the way, could you imagine what would be the union of an Uchiha and a Uzumaki (Sasuke + Karin)? They practically would have some childrens with the Rinnegan ... Given that the Uzumaki are related to the Senju.

The way I see it, the Rinnegan is something that appears once in a thousand years, you must be one in a million to achieve it - Unless you experiment one it. It shouldn't be that easy, but it beats me how a weakened Madara got access to it and gave it to Nagato. O_O This has to be explained, or else I will be disappointed.

Rinnegan doesn't run in the bloodline, it appears on certain someones that are Rikudo's descendants.

Edited by sushi., 17 February 2013 - 10:59 PM.

[六道仙人]

The way I see it, the Rinnegan is something that appears once in a thousand years, you must be one in a million to achieve it - Unless you experiment one it. It shouldn't be that easy, but it beats me how a weakened Madara got access to it and gave it to Nagato. O_O This has to be explained, or else I will be disappointed.

Rinnegan doesn't run in the bloodline, it appears on certain someones that are Rikudo's descendants.

That was just a rumour as that statement from kakashi about the sharingan's source, "They said that the Sharingan comes from the Byakugan"...

Madara obtained the rinnegan (when he was in his old age) only because he stolen Hashirama's DNA.

The eldest brother, the Uchiha, in fact had the rinnegan, the same eyes as his father's

Edited by 六道仙人, 17 February 2013 - 11:05 PM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I see, dang havent been here for a while and not much has changed.....I do remember when Naruto saved Sakura....from sasuke (which was badass btw). Can you elaborate on the parallels? I think the Minato Kusi is obviouse cause well they look like each other and Sakura acts like Narutos mom I believe, but can u elborate on the others?

I'll give you the cliffnotes:

ObiRin:

* Obito's team goes through the Chunin Exams. Obito loses. Rin tends to him and fixes him up, being a medical ninja. Obito points to the Hokage faces, saying he wants to be Hokage someday. Rin supports him for it.
* Kakashi has a round in the Chunin Exams. Rin has a crush on Kakashi, so she smiles affectionately at him. Obito watches beside her, staring at Rin in sadness. (SasuSaku hug scene parallel, especially Naruto's reaction)
* Obito works up the courage to ask Rin out, excited and grinning. He brings flowers with him, only to have Rin give a piece of paper to plan something special for Kakashi's promotion to Jonin. Obito can't believe that happened, though isn't bitter.
* Obito gets injuried and tries to play off that he's fine. Rin gets mad at this and scolds him for always trying to cover up his wounds, promising him sternly she's always watching him. Obito blushes.
*Obito's right side gets crushed in a rockfall, and he pleads to Kakashi to protect Rin for him while he's dead. Kakashi agrees to his dying wish, while Rin is torn up at Obito's sacrifice, crying hard. However, she still has a crush on Kakashi. Obito then laments while everything blacks out that he was never able to tell Rin how much he loved her or be closer to Kakashi. Kakashi then confirms this for Rin himself, saying "He genuinely cared for you ... no, loved you. You were everything in the world to him. I'm just scum who was willing to leave you to die for the mission." (Probably already remember this, but I refreshed your memory anyway)
* Obito surivives and works hard to get back to physical condition. His only wish is to return to Konoha and protect Rin with Kakashi.
* He almost gets there, only to come across Kakashi stab through Rin with a Chidori. Not because he turned bad, but because he had to. Something happened that he couldn't help.
*Obito is in shock, then goes in a mad rage and kills all the Mist ninja who were involved in this, out of control. Eventually, he says that "This is Hell" and cradles Rin's dead body, crying hard. He promises her he'll find a way to create a world where she's still alive.

In conclusion, ObiRin is the more blatant NaruSaku parallel, like JiraTsu. However, it's more of a "What if things so and so", much darker and tragic than NaruSaku would ever hope to be. That's basically ObiRin. It's the dark NaruSaku. I ship it ... There are a lot of plot spoilers that this non-canon couple is tied into and sorry if I spoiled too much. XD I didn't tell you everything.

I'm really at a loss to how DanTsu is a NaruSaku parallel, especially considering all I see in common is both Dan and Naruto want to be the Hokage. It leans more to MinaKushi (Which is a NS parallel, but it's a lot closer to it than DT).

Damnit, I spoiled too much!

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 17 February 2013 - 11:13 PM.

[sushi.]

That was just a rumour as that statement from kakashi about the sharingan's source, "They said that the Sharingan comes from the Byakugan"...

Madara obtained the rinnegan (when he was in his old age) only because he stolen Hashirama's DNA.

The eldest brother, the Uchiha, in fact had the rinnegan, the same eyes as his father's

I am not basing this thought of a rumour, I just think it would be OP if the Rinnegan runs in a bloodline. Sasuke's kids shouldn't be running around with those eyes.

Edited by sushi., 17 February 2013 - 11:10 PM.

[HauntedCake]

Ok i have been on the offical forum scouting around and i came across this post by an NH fan.

WARNING IT IS A HUGE POST!!!!!

NH pairing reference --Click here to view--

I’ve made posts about this before, but it’s been a long time and my reasons and evidence have grown, so I guess I’ll do another one. Warning: it’s long.

As a huge fan of NaruHina, I'll admit, I used to have my doubts that NaruHina could actually happen, due to the way that Hinata stuttered/blushed/fainted every time she talked to Naruto. No matter how much I wanted the pairing to happen, I knew that she was never going to get Naruto's attention if she kept doing that. I wasn't sure if she would be emotionally strong enough to handle the baggage that Naruto, as the Child of Prophecy, hero of the Leaf Village, and Nine-Tails' Jinchūriki, would inevitably have. However, ever since the Pain arc, I've been convinced that she does have what it takes to be with Naruto, and her chapters in the Fourth Shinobi World War arc have only cemented that belief.

So why NaruHina and not NaruSaku for me? After all, if Hinata has what it takes to be with Naruto, so does Sakura, right? Well, she doesn't have the number-one most important thing of all: love for Naruto. Now, some people could debate as to whether she's starting to have feelings for him or not, but it's been shown that she still loves Sasuke. (She does think about him, not Naruto, when the fodder ninja who gave her a love letter mentions the guy she loves.) Personal opinion? I don't think she should. I think her continued love for him is completely stupid, and even though I want Naruto to be with Hinata, I think Sakura should love Naruto instead of Sasuke by now after all Naruto's done for her and all Sasuke's done to her. But I just don't think Sakura is in love with Naruto. I think she does love him platonically—she’s known him for a long time, she clearly cares about him, and he's almost certainly her best friend—but in order for that love to go from friend love to romantic love, there has to be attraction there, and Sakura has shown no signs at all of romantic attraction or anything more than a friendly care and concern for Naruto. I can relate—I have a guy who's one of my best friends who has feelings for me that I don't return; I care about him a lot as a person and I love him as a close friend, but I'm not attracted to him, even though many people mistake my close-friend-feelings for him for romantic feelings.

Then, people say that Sakura may not love Naruto now, but that her feelings for him will change and that, by the end, he will still love her, and she will then love him back. Well, in that case, why couldn’t Naruto’s feelings be the ones that change, and that by the end, Hinata will still love him, and he will then love HER back? Well, some would assume that, because Sakura’s female, her feelings will be the ones that change in the end, while Naruto, as a male, will keep the same feelings the whole time. That stereotype is totally dumb because it’s wrong, like, half the time. I can promise that my feelings for my friend won’t change; I’m simply never going to see him in a romantic way, and in the end, his feelings will change and he will move on to someone else. People also assume that, because Naruto is the main character, his feelings will always stay the same. Classic example of a male main character whose feelings did change? Harry Potter. Harry had a girl who had feelings for him throughout the series since her introduction—Ginny Weasley—but he didn’t return those feelings for the first more-than-half of the series. In fact, three books showed Harry’s growing feelings for someone else—Cho Chang—versus only two books that showed Harry’s growing feelings for Ginny. And yet, whom did Harry end up with in the end? That’s right: Ginny, whom he initially did not have feelings for at all. Ginny, like Hinata, was an important character, but not the female lead; also, like Hinata, she was initially very shy, could barely talk around her crush, and blushed every time they were in the same room together, but later became much more confident, both in herself and when she was near the guy she loved. Again like Hinata, she had a crush on the male main character that later blossomed into love, and, though Ginny did date other guys, her feelings for Harry never wavered, just like Hinata’s feelings for Naruto have not wavered. The “Naruto’s the main character” argument is not a good one.

So why do I love NaruHina? Well, I could say that it’s for many of the “typical” reasons—she’s always loved him, she deserves him, he deserves her—and it would be true. But it’s about more than just that. It’s about the effect that they have on each other. Naruto’s effect on Hinata is more obvious; no one has affected Hinata like Naruto has. Moreover, Naruto has been a much greater impact on Hinata’s life than on Sakura’s. Sure, he made the promise to Sakura to bring Sasuke back, and sure, she greatly appreciated that. But Naruto wasn’t just doing that for her; as he’s said himself, he genuinely wants to bring Sasuke back to the village for more reasons than just that promise. And Naruto’s resolve and strength did inspire Sakura and increase her desire to become stronger, yes, but you could say the same for many other characters, including Kiba, Neji, Shikamaru, Lee, and many, many others. However, Hinata’s very personality was changed because of her inspiration from Naruto; he ultimately saved her from a very long, weak, pitiful existence. She even said that she used to always cry and give up before she met Naruto, but that his inspiration was the primary source of her strength and her will to get stronger. While Sakura had other people who impacted her more than Naruto did (like Ino and, through her desire to win his heart, Sasuke), Naruto was the center of Hinata’s motivation, the core to her strength, and this is reiterated by the fact that her ninja way is the same as his.

Of course, most fans, regardless of which pairing they support, acknowledge Naruto’s effect on Hinata. But what many people do underestimate is the positive effect that Hinata has also had on Naruto. As far as Sakura goes: she has, of course, healed Naruto’s wounds and physically assisted him throughout the series, but really, what has she done for him emotionally? When has she been his emotional rock, who gave him confidence when he needed it and prevented him from giving in or falling into despair? I can only think of one occasion: when, after the first time they failed to bring Sasuke back in Part II, she told him not to cry, that crying wouldn’t bring Sasuke back, and that they’d succeed next time (while, btw, Sai and Yamato were also encouraging him). There may be more that I can’t think of right now; however, there aren’t many. However, Hinata has been there in some of Naruto’s greatest times of need. During the darkest time in his life (at the academy as a child), Hinata was the only one who did not make fun of him (while everyone else, including Sakura, did). True, she didn’t stand up for him, but no one did, and at least she didn’t make his life worse, unlike all of the other students. In Part I, during one of the few times that Naruto ever openly doubted himself, he was actually comfortable enough with Hinata to share doubts that he never even shared with his own team, and, despite her extreme nervousness around him, she was able to say enough to restore his confidence. In Part II, she’s only gotten better; in the Pain arc, she was the only one who came to his rescue, doing so just when Naruto was starting to doubt himself due to Pain’s words. Hinata’s confession and subsequent apparent death ultimately saved Naruto’s life; otherwise, Pain would have taken him away and he probably would have been killed. People say that Naruto would have reacted that same way if Pain had hurt any other of his friends, and you know what? I agree. I’m not trying to say that Naruto’s reaction proved that he loves her. But none of his other friends DID interfere—Hinata was the one who did. Why? Because, like I said, she’s there for him in his times of need. And it was here that she was finally able to talk to Naruto without blushing or stammering, and it was here that I became convinced that she has a real shot with Naruto. And now, at the current point in the story, I’m more convinced than ever. Naruto once again began to doubt himself when his friend was killed on the battlefield, and could have given in to Obito. However, Hinata, despite her own despair (since her cousin and friend died protecting her and Naruto), was able to pull herself together and, once again, tell Naruto exactly what he needed to hear to regain his confidence and restore his will to fight, again without stammering or blushing. Just like before, anyone else could have been the one to help him, but again, it was Hinata, because again, Hinata was there for him in his time of need. In fact, Naruto even noted in 615 that she has always been by his side. She also helped him in today’s chapter when his arm was in bad shape. It could have been anyone—it could have been a freaking medical ninja—but again, it was her.

Now, I know this does not a pairing make. Right now, neither pairing works, because Sakura has not been proven to love Naruto, and Naruto has not been proven to love Hinata. The love has to be mutual for the relationship to work, and whichever character does have a change of heart will dictate the pairing that actually does happen. But many fans complain that NaruHina fans aren’t logical, so I’m presenting my logical argument about why Naruto and Hinata would be a good match for each other and why their relationship would work.

Sorry for the insane length of my post. As I’ve said before, pairings are not up to us, and I’m cool with that; I just get exasperated when people try to say that NaruHina doesn’t make sense. As I’ve done my best to show here, it does.

Thoughts???

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh man, I can actually use "Objection!" right about now, but I'm going home and the train going underground kills the signal. I hope someone can do it.

[rocci]

Ok i have been on the offical forum scouting around and i came across this post by an NH fan.

WARNING IT IS A HUGE POST!!!!!

NH pairing reference --Click here to view--

I’ve made posts about this before, but it’s been a long time and my reasons and evidence have grown, so I guess I’ll do another one. Warning: it’s long.

As a huge fan of NaruHina, I'll admit, I used to have my doubts that NaruHina could actually happen, due to the way that Hinata stuttered/blushed/fainted every time she talked to Naruto. No matter how much I wanted the pairing to happen, I knew that she was never going to get Naruto's attention if she kept doing that. I wasn't sure if she would be emotionally strong enough to handle the baggage that Naruto, as the Child of Prophecy, hero of the Leaf Village, and Nine-Tails' Jinchūriki, would inevitably have. However, ever since the Pain arc, I've been convinced that she does have what it takes to be with Naruto, and her chapters in the Fourth Shinobi World War arc have only cemented that belief.

So why NaruHina and not NaruSaku for me? After all, if Hinata has what it takes to be with Naruto, so does Sakura, right? Well, she doesn't have the number-one most important thing of all: love for Naruto. Now, some people could debate as to whether she's starting to have feelings for him or not, but it's been shown that she still loves Sasuke. (She does think about him, not Naruto, when the fodder ninja who gave her a love letter mentions the guy she loves.) Personal opinion? I don't think she should. I think her continued love for him is completely stupid, and even though I want Naruto to be with Hinata, I think Sakura should love Naruto instead of Sasuke by now after all Naruto's done for her and all Sasuke's done to her. But I just don't think Sakura is in love with Naruto. I think she does love him platonically—she’s known him for a long time, she clearly cares about him, and he's almost certainly her best friend—but in order for that love to go from friend love to romantic love, there has to be attraction there, and Sakura has shown no signs at all of romantic attraction or anything more than a friendly care and concern for Naruto. I can relate—I have a guy who's one of my best friends who has feelings for me that I don't return; I care about him a lot as a person and I love him as a close friend, but I'm not attracted to him, even though many people mistake my close-friend-feelings for him for romantic feelings.

Then, people say that Sakura may not love Naruto now, but that her feelings for him will change and that, by the end, he will still love her, and she will then love him back. Well, in that case, why couldn’t Naruto’s feelings be the ones that change, and that by the end, Hinata will still love him, and he will then love HER back? Well, some would assume that, because Sakura’s female, her feelings will be the ones that change in the end, while Naruto, as a male, will keep the same feelings the whole time. That stereotype is totally dumb because it’s wrong, like, half the time. I can promise that my feelings for my friend won’t change; I’m simply never going to see him in a romantic way, and in the end, his feelings will change and he will move on to someone else. People also assume that, because Naruto is the main character, his feelings will always stay the same. Classic example of a male main character whose feelings did change? Harry Potter. Harry had a girl who had feelings for him throughout the series since her introduction—Ginny Weasley—but he didn’t return those feelings for the first more-than-half of the series. In fact, three books showed Harry’s growing feelings for someone else—Cho Chang—versus only two books that showed Harry’s growing feelings for Ginny. And yet, whom did Harry end up with in the end? That’s right: Ginny, whom he initially did not have feelings for at all. Ginny, like Hinata, was an important character, but not the female lead; also, like Hinata, she was initially very shy, could barely talk around her crush, and blushed every time they were in the same room together, but later became much more confident, both in herself and when she was near the guy she loved. Again like Hinata, she had a crush on the male main character that later blossomed into love, and, though Ginny did date other guys, her feelings for Harry never wavered, just like Hinata’s feelings for Naruto have not wavered. The “Naruto’s the main character” argument is not a good one.

So why do I love NaruHina? Well, I could say that it’s for many of the “typical” reasons—she’s always loved him, she deserves him, he deserves her—and it would be true. But it’s about more than just that. It’s about the effect that they have on each other. Naruto’s effect on Hinata is more obvious; no one has affected Hinata like Naruto has. Moreover, Naruto has been a much greater impact on Hinata’s life than on Sakura’s. Sure, he made the promise to Sakura to bring Sasuke back, and sure, she greatly appreciated that. But Naruto wasn’t just doing that for her; as he’s said himself, he genuinely wants to bring Sasuke back to the village for more reasons than just that promise. And Naruto’s resolve and strength did inspire Sakura and increase her desire to become stronger, yes, but you could say the same for many other characters, including Kiba, Neji, Shikamaru, Lee, and many, many others. However, Hinata’s very personality was changed because of her inspiration from Naruto; he ultimately saved her from a very long, weak, pitiful existence. She even said that she used to always cry and give up before she met Naruto, but that his inspiration was the primary source of her strength and her will to get stronger. While Sakura had other people who impacted her more than Naruto did (like Ino and, through her desire to win his heart, Sasuke), Naruto was the center of Hinata’s motivation, the core to her strength, and this is reiterated by the fact that her ninja way is the same as his.

Of course, most fans, regardless of which pairing they support, acknowledge Naruto’s effect on Hinata. But what many people do underestimate is the positive effect that Hinata has also had on Naruto. As far as Sakura goes: she has, of course, healed Naruto’s wounds and physically assisted him throughout the series, but really, what has she done for him emotionally? When has she been his emotional rock, who gave him confidence when he needed it and prevented him from giving in or falling into despair? I can only think of one occasion: when, after the first time they failed to bring Sasuke back in Part II, she told him not to cry, that crying wouldn’t bring Sasuke back, and that they’d succeed next time (while, btw, Sai and Yamato were also encouraging him). There may be more that I can’t think of right now; however, there aren’t many. However, Hinata has been there in some of Naruto’s greatest times of need. During the darkest time in his life (at the academy as a child), Hinata was the only one who did not make fun of him (while everyone else, including Sakura, did). True, she didn’t stand up for him, but no one did, and at least she didn’t make his life worse, unlike all of the other students. In Part I, during one of the few times that Naruto ever openly doubted himself, he was actually comfortable enough with Hinata to share doubts that he never even shared with his own team, and, despite her extreme nervousness around him, she was able to say enough to restore his confidence. In Part II, she’s only gotten better; in the Pain arc, she was the only one who came to his rescue, doing so just when Naruto was starting to doubt himself due to Pain’s words. Hinata’s confession and subsequent apparent death ultimately saved Naruto’s life; otherwise, Pain would have taken him away and he probably would have been killed. People say that Naruto would have reacted that same way if Pain had hurt any other of his friends, and you know what? I agree. I’m not trying to say that Naruto’s reaction proved that he loves her. But none of his other friends DID interfere—Hinata was the one who did. Why? Because, like I said, she’s there for him in his times of need. And it was here that she was finally able to talk to Naruto without blushing or stammering, and it was here that I became convinced that she has a real shot with Naruto. And now, at the current point in the story, I’m more convinced than ever. Naruto once again began to doubt himself when his friend was killed on the battlefield, and could have given in to Obito. However, Hinata, despite her own despair (since her cousin and friend died protecting her and Naruto), was able to pull herself together and, once again, tell Naruto exactly what he needed to hear to regain his confidence and restore his will to fight, again without stammering or blushing. Just like before, anyone else could have been the one to help him, but again, it was Hinata, because again, Hinata was there for him in his time of need. In fact, Naruto even noted in 615 that she has always been by his side. She also helped him in today’s chapter when his arm was in bad shape. It could have been anyone—it could have been a freaking medical ninja—but again, it was her.

Now, I know this does not a pairing make. Right now, neither pairing works, because Sakura has not been proven to love Naruto, and Naruto has not been proven to love Hinata. The love has to be mutual for the relationship to work, and whichever character does have a change of heart will dictate the pairing that actually does happen. But many fans complain that NaruHina fans aren’t logical, so I’m presenting my logical argument about why Naruto and Hinata would be a good match for each other and why their relationship would work.

Sorry for the insane length of my post. As I’ve said before, pairings are not up to us, and I’m cool with that; I just get exasperated when people try to say that NaruHina doesn’t make sense. As I’ve done my best to show here, it does.

Thoughts???

oh not bad for a logical fan

- naruto is not harry, sasuke is. naruto basically ron, the only thing that similiar with harry is status of main character and ]
the prophesi thing. oh the prophesi thing basically a rip off from neo of the matrix.
- she didn't make fun of him, so did the other child. the children only neglect him because the parent said so.
- naruto is main character. main character is a big thing in shonen jump.
- yes hinata has positive effect, but for me naruto love to sakura is the count.
- NH is at the mercy of naruto. if he didn't change his feeling then nh is dead for good.

[Kimmy]

I've never really understood how the NH fans are so sure that their pairing will be canon tbh.

All throughout the series/manga, Naruto has proven time and time again that he'll never give up no matter what obstacles come his way. It's the theme of this whole manga and Kishi has made a point to emphasize it that it's basically ingrained in our heads. So just going by Naruto's primary character trait, do they really think he'll give up on Sakura just like that? Especially now that Sakura is regretting her feelings for Sasuke because of what kind of guy he's become?

About comparing NH to the Harry Potter pairings, it just doesn't work. Know why? Because ever since the very beginning, we've seen Naruto have a "crush" on Sakura which later turns into selfless devotion on Naruto's part. Since the very beginning, we've seen the main character having feelings for another character (which is a heroine btw) and I really don't see any signs of Naruto's feelings just fading away because some girl confessed her undying love to him. In Harry's case, he didn't have romantic feelings for Hermione like Naruto does for Sakura. Hence why HarryxHermione didn't work and made way to HarryxGinny. So it's useless to say that Harry=Naruto , Hermione= Sakura and Ginny= Hinata.

Some fans need to remember something, and that's Naruto changes people. Not the other way around.

Edited by Kimmy, 18 February 2013 - 12:05 AM.

[T XD]

Again with the HP

Naruto is a manga. Whereas, Harry Potter is a novel. There's a big difference here in the ways it represent the story, and how it's done.

Edited by T XD, 18 February 2013 - 12:11 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I understand that the fan is being reasonable about Naruto's feelings can change, but it's been established that he's not the guy to change at all, hence role model that Kishi has interpreted. Is it realistic that Naruto doesn't change feelings? It vary, but Kishi has made him "Never give up" guy, so at times, I want to tell people who keep hoping for him to change, best to quit now. What makes you think he would change when he was about to get killed by his own best friend, Sasuke. If he changed his mind there, then so will I.

My main problem is that why should we root for Naruto to change his mind? That's nonsense and the manga, especially Shounen, is all about support the hero to succeed at what he wishes. How the heck we are rooting for someone who is not relevent to the story, nor that the fact Kishi couldn't care less. His main priority is to make many impossible tasks for Naruto and overcome it. In fact, did we ever have any indication that his love life has been a disaster? No, we never got one. What we got is that Naruto feels that he doesn't deserve her. Not because she hurt his feelings or broke his heart intentionally, no, it's all on him alone. There's no "Well Naruto, you're a great guy. And that, you must have a great girlfriend", only to see him feeling pain for loving her. His main problem is himself not knowing that Sakura is really ok with Naruto not keeping his promise, but even so, he's going to do it. Besides, he has his own reason too. Bottom line, NaruSaku relationship is no danger at all. I am saying it with straight face. NaruHina is not danger but it's not going anywhere because of Naruto. SasuSaku is in danger because Sakura, only person to hold this feelings, is slowly changing in terms of love. I can go on, but yeah, you get the point.

[rocci]

I've never really understood how the NH fans are so sure that their pairing will be canon tbh.

All throughout the series/manga, Naruto has proven time and time again that he'll never give up no matter what obstacles come his way. It's the theme of this whole manga and Kishi has made a point to emphasize it that it's basically ingrained in our heads. So just going by Naruto's primary character trait, do they really think he'll give up on Sakura just like that? Especially now that Sakura is regretting her feelings for Sasuke because of what kind of guy he's become?

About comparing NH to the Harry Potter pairings, it just doesn't work. Know why? Because ever since the very beginning, we've seen Naruto have a "crush" on Sakura which later turns into selfless devotion on Naruto's part. Since the very beginning, we've seen the main character having feelings for another character (which is a heroine btw) and I really don't see any signs of Naruto's feelings just fading away because some girl confessed her undying love to him. In Harry's case, he didn't have romantic feelings for Hermione like Naruto does for Sakura. Hence why HarryxHermione didn't work and made way to HarryxGinny. So it's useless to say that Harry=Naruto , Hermione= Sakura and Ginny= Hinata.

Some fans need to remember something, and that's Naruto changes people. Not the other way around.

i think naruto =/= harry, sasuke is likely more ressemble harry(with malfoy ego, and cedric face), sasuke mark by snake(orochimaru put heaven curse seal) harry mark by snake(voldemort), the story centered around sasuke and his uchiha business while harry center around harry. while naruto more like ron, both is the joker of this series, the only different is naruto is main chara while ron is secondary main chara.

btw just like u say, is not fair to compare harry potter for naruto

[tricksie]

Hey guys, please watch the posting of comments from other sites. Tends to fan the flames of pairing wars. Instead, pick out the points that are worth debating, then put them in your own words. That way the responses are geared toward a person or a specific topic, and not about NH bashing. thanks!

[Slextrem]

My biggest problems with that post are:

1) The Naruto = Harry Potter comparison. As other users have stated, the characters in Naruto are not in the same situation as the characters in Harry Potter. The love in Harry Potter developed later on in the series. There was never an ongoing love triangle sub-plot, where Harry was in love with Hermione from the start but eventually fell for Ginny. There was that other broad, Cho(?), that Harry liked that ended up having a think with Cedric, (I think - it's been a while ) but that isn't comparable to what Naruto feels for Sakura. He's loved her for years. Harry liked Cho for, what, one book/movie?

2) Whoever posted this says that Sakura has never shown romantic feelings towards Naruto, but I disagree. This person may have interpreted the NaruSaku moments initiated by Sakura as platonic, but that doesn't mean their interpretation is correct. There have been many, many moments where Sakura shows that her feelings for Naruto could be changing. The first one that comes to mind is when Sakura sees Naruto post-time skip. She blushes and flirts with him. Then there's the NaruSaku hug, which of course, fans have automatically decided was a platonic moment but I disagree with that completely. I guess these moments can be interpreted differently by everyone, but it's indisputable that Sakura has given us many reasons to believe that she's falling in love with Naruto. (Complaint of the Day: Why are NaruSaku moments always "up for interpretation", but NH and SS moments are always 100% love-love intended? )

3) This person is comparing Sakura and Naruto's situation to her personal life. I can't stand it when people do this. It's fiction. You're not Sakura. Your friend isn't Naruto. There are a crap-load of different real life experiences that people can compare to the manga, but just because one fan experiences something in their life, it doesn't mean that's definitely what's going on in the series.

When 615 was released, one guy's argument about Naruto's feelings for Hinata was, "As a man, I can tell that Naruto loves Hinata. He doesn't have to actually say that he loves her because that's not a man's style. Men show their feelings through their actions. We're subtle like that. That's how I am when I want to date a chick. You're a girl, you wouldn't understand." While that may be how it works for some people in the real world, that's not how fiction works in the fictional world. Nothing is solid until it's on paper.

Anyway, I stopped reading after I came across these three issues in their argument. Maybe they had something better to add, but the first half of the comment was very opinionated.

Edited by Slextrem, 18 February 2013 - 01:48 AM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I’ve made posts about this before, but it’s been a long time and my reasons and evidence have grown, so I guess I’ll do another one. Warning: it’s long.

As a huge fan of NaruHina, I'll admit, I used to have my doubts that NaruHina could actually happen, due to the way that Hinata stuttered/blushed/fainted every time she talked to Naruto. No matter how much I wanted the pairing to happen, I knew that she was never going to get Naruto's attention if she kept doing that. I wasn't sure if she would be emotionally strong enough to handle the baggage that Naruto, as the Child of Prophecy, hero of the Leaf Village, and Nine-Tails' Jinchūriki, would inevitably have. However, ever since the Pain arc, I've been convinced that she does have what it takes to be with Naruto, and her chapters in the Fourth Shinobi World War arc have only cemented that belief.

So why NaruHina and not NaruSaku for me? After all, if Hinata has what it takes to be with Naruto, so does Sakura, right? Well, she doesn't have the number-one most important thing of all: love for Naruto. Now, some people could debate as to whether she's starting to have feelings for him or not, but it's been shown that she still loves Sasuke. (She does think about him, not Naruto, when the fodder ninja who gave her a love letter mentions the guy she loves.) Personal opinion? I don't think she should. I think her continued love for him is completely stupid, and even though I want Naruto to be with Hinata, I think Sakura should love Naruto instead of Sasuke by now after all Naruto's done for her and all Sasuke's done to her. But I just don't think Sakura is in love with Naruto. I think she does love him platonically—she’s known him for a long time, she clearly cares about him, and he's almost certainly her best friend—but in order for that love to go from friend love to romantic love, there has to be attraction there, and Sakura has shown no signs at all of romantic attraction or anything more than a friendly care and concern for Naruto. I can relate—I have a guy who's one of my best friends who has feelings for me that I don't return; I care about him a lot as a person and I love him as a close friend, but I'm not attracted to him, even though many people mistake my close-friend-feelings for him for romantic feelings.

Then, people say that Sakura may not love Naruto now, but that her feelings for him will change and that, by the end, he will still love her, and she will then love him back. Well, in that case, why couldn’t Naruto’s feelings be the ones that change, and that by the end, Hinata will still love him, and he will then love HER back? Well, some would assume that, because Sakura’s female, her feelings will be the ones that change in the end, while Naruto, as a male, will keep the same feelings the whole time. That stereotype is totally dumb because it’s wrong, like, half the time. I can promise that my feelings for my friend won’t change; I’m simply never going to see him in a romantic way, and in the end, his feelings will change and he will move on to someone else. People also assume that, because Naruto is the main character, his feelings will always stay the same. Classic example of a male main character whose feelings did change? Harry Potter. Harry had a girl who had feelings for him throughout the series since her introduction—Ginny Weasley—but he didn’t return those feelings for the first more-than-half of the series. In fact, three books showed Harry’s growing feelings for someone else—Cho Chang—versus only two books that showed Harry’s growing feelings for Ginny. And yet, whom did Harry end up with in the end? That’s right: Ginny, whom he initially did not have feelings for at all. Ginny, like Hinata, was an important character, but not the female lead; also, like Hinata, she was initially very shy, could barely talk around her crush, and blushed every time they were in the same room together, but later became much more confident, both in herself and when she was near the guy she loved. Again like Hinata, she had a crush on the male main character that later blossomed into love, and, though Ginny did date other guys, her feelings for Harry never wavered, just like Hinata’s feelings for Naruto have not wavered. The “Naruto’s the main character” argument is not a good one.

So why do I love NaruHina? Well, I could say that it’s for many of the “typical” reasons—she’s always loved him, she deserves him, he deserves her—and it would be true. But it’s about more than just that. It’s about the effect that they have on each other. Naruto’s effect on Hinata is more obvious; no one has affected Hinata like Naruto has. Moreover, Naruto has been a much greater impact on Hinata’s life than on Sakura’s. Sure, he made the promise to Sakura to bring Sasuke back, and sure, she greatly appreciated that. But Naruto wasn’t just doing that for her; as he’s said himself, he genuinely wants to bring Sasuke back to the village for more reasons than just that promise. And Naruto’s resolve and strength did inspire Sakura and increase her desire to become stronger, yes, but you could say the same for many other characters, including Kiba, Neji, Shikamaru, Lee, and many, many others. However, Hinata’s very personality was changed because of her inspiration from Naruto; he ultimately saved her from a very long, weak, pitiful existence. She even said that she used to always cry and give up before she met Naruto, but that his inspiration was the primary source of her strength and her will to get stronger. While Sakura had other people who impacted her more than Naruto did (like Ino and, through her desire to win his heart, Sasuke), Naruto was the center of Hinata’s motivation, the core to her strength, and this is reiterated by the fact that her ninja way is the same as his.

Of course, most fans, regardless of which pairing they support, acknowledge Naruto’s effect on Hinata. But what many people do underestimate is the positive effect that Hinata has also had on Naruto. As far as Sakura goes: she has, of course, healed Naruto’s wounds and physically assisted him throughout the series, but really, what has she done for him emotionally? When has she been his emotional rock, who gave him confidence when he needed it and prevented him from giving in or falling into despair? I can only think of one occasion: when, after the first time they failed to bring Sasuke back in Part II, she told him not to cry, that crying wouldn’t bring Sasuke back, and that they’d succeed next time (while, btw, Sai and Yamato were also encouraging him). There may be more that I can’t think of right now; however, there aren’t many. However, Hinata has been there in some of Naruto’s greatest times of need. During the darkest time in his life (at the academy as a child), Hinata was the only one who did not make fun of him (while everyone else, including Sakura, did). True, she didn’t stand up for him, but no one did, and at least she didn’t make his life worse, unlike all of the other students.In Part I, during one of the few times that Naruto ever openly doubted himself, he was actually comfortable enough with Hinata to share doubts that he never even shared with his own team, and, despite her extreme nervousness around him, she was able to say enough to restore his confidence. In Part II, she’s only gotten better; in the Pain arc, she was the only one who came to his rescue, doing so just when Naruto was starting to doubt himself due to Pain’s words. Hinata’s confession and subsequent apparent death ultimately saved Naruto’s life; otherwise, Pain would have taken him away and he probably would have been killed. People say that Naruto would have reacted that same way if Pain had hurt any other of his friends, and you know what? I agree. I’m not trying to say that Naruto’s reaction proved that he loves her. But none of his other friends DID interfere—Hinata was the one who did. Why? Because, like I said, she’s there for him in his times of need. And it was here that she was finally able to talk to Naruto without blushing or stammering, and it was here that I became convinced that she has a real shot with Naruto. And now, at the current point in the story, I’m more convinced than ever. Naruto once again began to doubt himself when his friend was killed on the battlefield, and could have given in to Obito. However, Hinata, despite her own despair (since her cousin and friend died protecting her and Naruto), was able to pull herself together and, once again, tell Naruto exactly what he needed to hear to regain his confidence and restore his will to fight, again without stammering or blushing. Just like before, anyone else could have been the one to help him, but again, it was Hinata, because again, Hinata was there for him in his time of need. In fact, Naruto even noted in 615 that she has always been by his side. She also helped him in today’s chapter when his arm was in bad shape. It could have been anyone—it could have been a freaking medical ninja—but again, it was her.

Now, I know this does not a pairing make. Right now, neither pairing works, because Sakura has not been proven to love Naruto, and Naruto has not been proven to love Hinata. The love has to be mutual for the relationship to work, and whichever character does have a change of heart will dictate the pairing that actually does happen. But many fans complain that NaruHina fans aren’t logical, so I’m presenting my logical argument about why Naruto and Hinata would be a good match for each other and why their relationship would work.

Sorry for the insane length of my post. As I’ve said before, pairings are not up to us, and I’m cool with that; I just get exasperated when people try to say that NaruHina doesn’t make sense. As I’ve done my best to show here, it does.

Lucky me. I have time to kill:

Bolded #1: Lol, 540 is literally the only chapter that are keeping NaruHina's hope up, it seems like. There is 615, but 540 is like their lifeline. I strongly disagree with that, there is no way Sakura sees Naruto as just a friend with so many hints dictating otherwise, those close contact hugs, how oversensitive she is to his feelings and safety, and how ridiculously angry and indignant Sakura was when Naruto called her a liar, defending her so-called "fake love". It just doesn't add up, especially how she thinks of him before Sasuke a lot now and wants to relieve him of his burdens. Yamato's unfinished sentence was also very overt and as far as I'm concerned, that was biggest hint ever that Sakura was falling in love with Naruto. It's too obvious, NaruSaku itself is too obvious IMO. It still surprises me how many people think differently.

Honestly, if it wasn't for the 3rd Databook heavily implying she was developing romantic feelings for him, maybe I could take this a little more seriously. However, I just can't really. Sakura has new feelings for Naruto and she doesn't know exactly if it's romantic love or something else entirely. What's the point of the confusion unless Kishi's trying to tell us something? Sakura's still in that confusion stage, of course she wouldn't think of Naruto as someone she's in love with. It'd just be out of place, that's also why her confession didn't come off as sincere in some areas.

I don't understand why just because she was confirmed to love Sasuke (which we already knew), this automatically means she truly isn't in love with Naruto too. You can develop feelings for two people, that seems to be the case here. And Sakura's already not proud of what she feels, expressing a desire to move on. The Kage Summit is the obvious example and so was her reaction to "He must be a really great guy if you love him".

Bolded #2: Romantic attraction has already been confirmed, even though it's not as obvious as her attraction to Sasuke. Too many instances already confirm it: When Naruto returned, Sakura asked him how she looked and was blushing, repeating a lot he had grown. Obviously checking him out. Feeding scene and the way Sakura looked at him ... not attraction? Pfft. Two hug as well implied romantic attraction. First hug was holding his face and really, really close to him. That showed attraction and when she hugged him again, she was blushing while she was saying she why she loved him. It's not overt (except that one reunion scene lol), but it's not non-exsistent.

If you compare NaruHina, it doesn't even have this. Naruto has never blushed or commented positively on her appearance, there isn't even proof he finds her attractive. Not like NaruSaku. Romantic attraction what now?

Bolded #3: I'm in love with NaruHina double standards, they're so hilarious. Why shouldn't Sakura's feelings be the one to change and she loves Naruto back when she hates liking a criminal and wants to be over him? Naruto doesn't show a desire to get over Sakura, let alone having a nearly good reason that would make him consider it seriously. Sakura loving Sasuke? Hasn't stopped him.

Bolded #4: Umm ... what up with the Harry Potter comparision? Naruto is a shonen manga, not a British novel. Kishimoto isn't J.K Rowling, he has a different story. While I'm not denying he may follow the same route, I can't see it as likely when Naruto has loved Sakura all the way from the Kage Summit, which was a week ago. With the series almost over, if NaruHina happened, it'd be just as much bad writing and forceness like HarryGin. Do you really want NaruHina like that? Are you "satisfied"?

Bolded #5: God, I hate this deserving argument. So, so much. Naruto and Hinata both deserve love from someone, but that doesn't mean their love is "deserved". Love is love, if you love someone it's not supposed to be deserved. All that matters is if you truly love someone. Naruto has always loved Sakura and he has shown unwavering devotion towards her, but that doesn't mean he has to be with her. Sakura's feelings count too, you know. If she really somehow doesn't love him, then it's not her fault. Same goes for Naruto.

Honestly, I don't think Naruto would apreciate very much of you and other people saying Hinata "deserves him" more than Sakura does. Actually, I don't think he'd like this deserving argument at all. He's a person, not an object. This is almost insulting to him and a undercurrent of insult to Sakura. Neither I like.

Bolded #6: I dunno about that. Naruto has talk no jutsued Nagato, Neji, Gaara, Tsunade, and even put a dent in Sasuke's thick skull, if only temporarily. He affects everyone and while it's true Hinata revolves around his entire being, that's why she's a weak character. She can't really stand on her own two feet unless it involves Naruto. She's so heavily dependent on him, it's actually both embarrassing and a disguised insult to her hidden potential.

Bolded #7: Of course, but this doesn't remove the fact that that moment in his life was terribly painful and heartbreaking for him. Do not try and downplay Naruto's pain and sacrifice there, I hate that blatant disregard for him. Making that promise hurt him a lot, you could see it in his eyes. His forced grin and how his arm was shaking when he did the thumbs up (Something overlooked, but it emphasised the pain of that moment) made that even more clear. That promise was entirely connected to how he felt about Sakura, you practically shot yourself in the foot by bring this up. Naruto was being unbelievably self-sacrificing and thinking about Sakura's happiness, despite how much it hurt. No matter who it is directed at, that type of devotion deserves to be acknowledged and sympathized with.

I'm very big on this moment and I love Naruto's character so much, seeing others brush off what he went through bothers me a lot. So what if it's Sakura? You should be feeling Naruto's pain and sacrifice right there, not denying it, downplaying it, or going absolutely rage mode.

Bolded #8: More of Hinata's unreal dependency? How can you find her neediness "cute" when all it does is prove how single-minded and underdeveloped she is as a character? Answer me this: Is there more important things in the world then Naruto? In Hinata's perspective, no. She abandons her heiress role responsibility to chase after a guy's affections when he probably doesn't even like that way IMO. Sorry, I don't find that great. Hinata's changes is touching, but like I said he's reverted evil villains to the light side with only words before. That's actually a bigger impact than changing Hinata. It's Naruto's talent, nothing to single anyone out over.

You wanna know something unbelievable? That's exactly why I love Sakura so much. She has so many more layers and depth to her character than Hinata, she's not entirely dependent on one thing to grow up as a character. Honestly, even Part 1 Sakura never has been like that. Like you said, it was rivalry and a desire for acknowledgement that spurred it on, even if the heart of it (Sasuke) was misguided. She always wanted to be her own person, she didn't want to be shadowed by Ino or wilting away as a nobody. Sakura wanted respect, she wanted to prove herself to others, especially Ino. Hinata does not have this rivalry, Sakura does. She always had this drive, even when she was younger and became much more outspoken about it. It was about Sasuke heavily in Part 1, something that makes me facepalm, but it was never just him. Sakura wanted to prove something to herself and everyone. Ironically, she's just like Naruto in that aspect. Sure, hers was more heavily romantic-centered, but their desire to be acknowledged was still the same. Hinata only wanted one person to acknowledge her, Sakura and Naruto did not.

And I will say this: How can you so easily ignore all the changes that Naruto created in Sakura? Yeah, it wasn't just Naruto, exactly what I like about her. But if you really pay attention to Part 2 Sakura, she was bound to always be of use to Naruto, saying "We'll be together ... we'll do this together, I promised him". She sets herself to do as much as she can for Naruto, no matter the cost. Naruto changed her. Through her relationship with him, I daresay she became more sympathetic and selfless, a lot more compassionate. He's part of the reason why she's so much more determined to be useful and never let him do anything alone. Sakura isn't as heavily affected by him as Hinata, she has her own goals. She's her own person. But still ... Sakura's main drive is to protect Naruto and be there for him. Protecting Sasuke and bringing him home is another example, but the confession proved that she'd rather think of Naruto and how to protect him, both physically and emotionally. Sasuke came second, she no longer sees that as important or more so than Naruto. If you compare this to Part 1 Sakura, it's a real shock.

Bolded #9: What ... I can't even. LMAO. That's hilarious. xD Hinata has been there for Naruto about three times or so, one of which ended in disaster and more complications. (Her confession) Deserves to be acknowledged for sure and considered, but you're being unbelievably ignorant if you actually believe Sakura is never there for Naruto emotionally. One of the reasons I ship NS is because she's there for him much more than Hinata is, I wouldn't ship it if I saw differently. It's not even about giving him confidence, it's about just supporting him and being there for him. When she found out the Akatsuki was trying to take the Jinchuriki out, she immediately asked Chiyo how to remove it so he wouldn't have to suffer the constant threat (Even Naruto was surprised at that one lol) and then when she found out he would die from it, Sakura was horrified and immediately cried hard for him. Tenchi Bridge scene is a ridiculous moment of importance and "being there for him" moment. She saw the promise and the how hard he pushed himself, to the point of self-destruction. Sakura could not stand by and watch this, not when she knew some part of her was to blame. She didn't want to lose him because of Sasuke, that's what her true feelings showed. It was a foreshadowing of the Kage Summit which was entirely centered around that. The amazing thing is that she said that she would rescue Sasuke, she'd take the burden. And then as soon as the Unfinished sentence hit, Sakura asked if she could learn Yamato's jutsu so she could stabilize him next time. She was willing to do anything for him and it was already way early in Part 2. Then lamented on never doing enough for him, only small and stupid things IHO. She also lied about Naruto hurting her arm to him and beared absolutely no grudge at all to him, even though he nearly killed her. If that's not love, then I don't know what is.

Sakura's confession was so massive, I can't believe I even have to explain it. She was willing to give up on Sasuke and get ride of the promise for Naruto's sake. She was worried about his recklessness and "road to self-destruction" again, she even screamed in his face he should think about himself for once instead of others. The guy she's supposed to love, Sasuke, paled in comparision to her. Naruto was her main concern, she knew how much Sasuke being eliminated would hurt him. Sakura didn't want that, even if she had to "lie" about how she truly felt. If Sasuke was so important to her as some claim, she would've put everyone to sleep with her sleeping poision and kill him on the spot because "she loves him". However, only Naruto mattered to her. Even more recently, she promised herself that her and Naruto would be together, she refuses to let him do anything alone anymore. Sakura's main wish right now is to be there for Naruto and stop him from hurting himself, as it has been for a long time.

Hinata there for Naruto? Sakura beats her far too much in that category. What were Naruto's internal struggles? Bearing the burden of being a Jinchuriki. Sakura: 1. Hinata: 0 (She knows but she doesn't do anything). Feeling like everyone deserves more happiness and benefits than he does. Sakura: 2. Hinata: 0. Sasuke constantly causes him internal heartbreak and strain, but he still is driven to save him, even at the point of self-destruction. Sakura: 3. Hinata: 0. Naruto does everything on his own, he never lets anyone in. Sakura: 4. Hinata: 0. Those are his inner conflicts, all of them Sakura knows by heart while Hinata either remains ignorant or doesn't do anything. Sakura has acted on all of these conflicts for him in her own way, actively. She understands him. Hinata only knows the surface, not his flaws and what truly affects him. Not like Sakura does.

Bolded 10#: You just shot yourself in the foot while bringing up the "She never hated him and saw his loneliness" argument. Hinata saw this, but she did absolutely nothing for him. You said it yourself, yet you try and excuse it. I understand Hinata's excuse, she was shy. It's understandable, but it doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Naruto was suffering, he was trying to deal with his loneliness but to him, no one cared. Hinata cared but she didn't care enough to try and be his friend. Instead, she used his efforts and pain as a motivation to better herself and become a better person. Using that as a motivation and then not help him? That's so unbelievably selfish, I can't even begin to cover it in words. Whether she didn't know he was suffering or she did, it puts her in a bad light either way. If she knew, she was too shy to know him, being selfish and if she didn't, then it just proves Hinata really didn't understand Naruto at all. It's negative towards NaruHina, not positive.

So? Sakura hated him in the beginning and she was mean towards him yet is still one of Naruto's most important people (T7, Iruka, Jiraiya, his parents). The difference between her and Hinata is that Sakura was first girl to openly acknowledge and support him, Hinata was still being silent. Consequently, Naruto appreciated and recognized Sakura's show of encouragement more than Hinata's. It's her own fault she's not one of his important bonds. And what I find interesting is that, unlike the rest, Sakura never hated Naruto because of her parents. She hated him because he was annoying.

I bet you anything it was easier for Naruto to open up to Hinata because he wasn't that close to her, not enough to really care how she'd react. He knew she was nice and I guess he just felt like venting, it wasn't much of a concern. With Sakura and his other close friends, Naruto is notorious for hiding his true feelings from others because he doesn't want them to worry. So, in this case, Naruto not saying how he really feels shows how close he is, at least considering T7. It's not like Naruto ever really looked back on it anyway, so I don't see the big deal.

Bolded #11: This is sugar-coated in such biasness, it's unbelievable. Hinata was there for two reasons: 1). She had no faith in him at all, she automatically guessed he'd lose before even knowing what was happening (Did Sakura show this? No, I think not. She believed in him more than Hinata). 2). Hinata has the Byakugan, she could see he was in danger. (Do you honestly think Sakura would of just stood there if she knew? Of course not, she just wasn't filled in). She tried to protect him, so it kinda was "in a time of need".

However, it wasn't very much supporting him emotionally. It was mostly about Hinata. She said she was selfish, which she was. Confessing her love to him and going on a suicide attempt, knowing she would probably die. Hinata had to know that by saying she loved him, Naruto would have increased guilt, fury, and pain. She had to know this, it's just common sense. Yet she did it anyway, cue 6-tails. Her confession was not supporting him emotionally, it was a trainwreck of disaster and wreaked even more havoc on his mind. So really, Hinata only has two supporting moments. Two. They're cute and all but it's not to the extent of Sakura.

Also ... have you maybe wondered all those moments might be for Hinata development and growth, not NaruHina becoming canon? No, of course not! It's taboo.

Bolded #12: If you looked more deeply in the text, Naruto was referring to reminding him of not giving up for his friend's memories. Not "You always supported me when no one else did! I love that about you!" That's a bit of a biased point of view, especially considering multiple people have been there for Naruto, not just Hinata. I also will remind you he also thanked Neji.

Bolded #13: It's because it doesn't, plain and simple. Hinata knows nothing about what Naruto actually goes through as a person, she's ignorant and doesn't help him with the 4 main conflicts that denfine him. Her panel time with him is small, yet she claims to be so deeply in love with him. Hinata barely knows him, she knows and loves only the surface. While Naruto has continuously friendzoned her so much throughout the series, it's actually laughable IMO. Not even her confession changed his feelings, he was still in love with Sakura and does not shoot down a possibility of being with her. He still wants that, Sakura's confession showed that.

Then you're going to always be frustrated because us NaruSaku fans are always going to be saying how much NaruHina doesn't make sense. It just doesn't, it's development is too small. If we're wrong and NaruHina does happen, it'll be bad writing. No questions asked, that's just what it'll be if you compare it to NaruSaku.

Wow, I disagreed with so much in this post. O.O Nevertheless, I like this NaruHina fan. The person isn't coming off as arrogant and realizes they might be wrong. I like those type of NHers, it's a real breath of fresh air compared to the more aggressive ones.