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[Branden]

I stand by my words: whoever parallels Rin, gets the win.

 

Interesting, it's the first time I checked NF after the release of the chapter and one is going his/her way to deny Rin and Sakura. Shockingly, they only say, "Personality, difference yes, but that's not where the parallel lies at." Granted you got other comments like fans who don't care, but no, "She is more to Rin than Sakura." Eh, I guess I should be ok with this. No need to debate since it's pretty much "She is" vs. "She is but kitten that."

 

You know, by this point, it goes to show you that Minato sure knows how to play match card right. I guess his experience with Kushina made him know how to see who is with who or at least the best potential.

what would it take you to convince you that Sakura parallels Rin? I was convinced as soon as we learned Obito loved Rin. There's quite a bit in the flashbacks that shows us that Team Minato paralleled Team Kakashi.

[That Uchiha]

I stand by my words: whoever parallels Rin, gets the win.

 

Interesting, it's the first time I checked NF after the release of the chapter and one is going his/her way to deny Rin and Sakura. Shockingly, they only say, "Personality, difference yes, but that's not where the parallel lies at." Granted you got other comments like fans who don't care, but no, "She is more to Rin than Sakura." Eh, I guess I should be ok with this. No need to debate since it's pretty much "She is" vs. "She is but kitten that."

 

You know, by this point, it goes to show you that Minato sure knows how to play match card right. I guess his experience with Kushina made him know how to see who is with who or at least the best potential.

 

Who else could parallel Rin but Sakura? Do people actually believe it's someone else?

[rocci]

The better question is, do fandom(especially shiper) realize the important of parallel or let me use another word, similiarrity?

[morgaine4]

The parallels haven't been inserted into the story to indicate which pairing will "win" in the end, they're in the story to give us a hint regarding how Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura's stories will proceed.  That's it.  As I always say, the romantic story was never about who Naruto would end up with but how he would woo Sakura and when she would realize that she's fallen for the blond, knucklehead ninja.  Ever since chapter 3 that's been the story, ever since Naruto introduced Sakura as a very cute girl who he likes (and didn't Kishi intend to draw her as anything but cute back then?) that's been the story.  This story is about Naruto as he attains his dreams, as he attains admirers, as he attains friends, and as he finally attains a living family.  It's not about who or which pairing, but about when Sakura realizes her feelings and about how they get together (of course this is just the main romantic plot that I'm touching upon, obviously not the plot as a whole).  This is Naruto's story, not Sasuke's, not Sakura's, not Ino's, not Karin's, not Gaara's, and certainly not Hinata's (and I'm not saying this because Naruto is my favorite character, in fact he isn't my favorite).

Edited by morgaine4, 02 November 2013 - 09:35 AM.

[Branden]

The thing about parallels is that they provide no development to the pairing whatsoever. Take every single parallel we've had so far and re-imagine it as a pro-naruhina parallel.

 

Even if that were the case naruhina still wouldn't qualify for canon material because they lack development.

 

With narusaku you have two nakama who have saved eachothers lives and have been on epic adventures together and even spend quite a bit of time together outside of their job. They have seen eachother at their highest and lowest points. They have had disputes and they have helped each other. Naruto has admitted he loves Sakura and Sakura has confessed to Naruto. Naruto has always put Sakura's happiness above his own and in part 2 Sakura has been shown to do the same for Naruto. Even with no parallels at all this is still a very strong pairing that is definitely a candidate for canon. narusaku is so strong because not only does it have the development necessary but it also has a plethora of parallels that act as hints to tell the readers that it will be canon.

 

The problem with a lot of NH shippers is they assume that Naruto is just going to randomly fall in love with Hinata. She's a good person, of course, but think of how many times Naruto and Hinata have actually talked to eachother or hung out together. I'm not ignoring the development they do have though. Hinata has helped Naruto when he has doubted himself and Naruto has helped her when she lacked the physical strength to stand up to Neji. All I am saying is that there needs to me more development before NH can be considered a reasonable pairing.

[TouKen4Life3g]

what would it take you to convince you that Sakura parallels Rin? I was convinced as soon as we learned Obito loved Rin. There's quite a bit in the flashbacks that shows us that Team Minato paralleled Team Kakashi.

Oh not me. I'm convinced. I'm talking about people in general.

[FreakySandra1995]

I stand by my words: whoever parallels Rin, gets the win.

 

Interesting, it's the first time I checked NF after the release of the chapter and one is going his/her way to deny Rin and Sakura. Shockingly, they only say, "Personality, difference yes, but that's not where the parallel lies at." Granted you got other comments like fans who don't care, but no, "She is more to Rin than Sakura." Eh, I guess I should be ok with this. No need to debate since it's pretty much "She is" vs. "She is but kitten that."

 

You know, by this point, it goes to show you that Minato sure knows how to play match card right. I guess his experience with Kushina made him know how to see who is with who or at least the best potential.

 

Bolded: Well, for one I can't imagine anyone else than Sakura who can be paralled to Rin. Also, the same thing was said with Kushina. Whoever is paralled to her, get's the win. But when it happened, people still are questioning it and say it doesn't have any meaning for NaruSaku to be end game.
I personally think that this Kushina/Sakura parallel pretty much sealed the deal for us, because else it wouldn't make sense to even be shown. So an official Rin/Sakura parallel wouldn't make that much difference. 
 

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Bolded: Well, for one I can't imagine anyone else than Sakura who can be paralled to Rin. Also, the same thing was said with Kushina. Whoever is paralled to her, get's the win. But when it happened, people still are questioning it and say it doesn't have any meaning for NaruSaku to be end game.
I personally think that this Kushina/Sakura parallel pretty much sealed the deal for us, because else it wouldn't make sense to even be shown. So an official Rin/Sakura parallel wouldn't make that much difference. 
 

Yeah, but apparently, it's being debated now, so I guess they need this one to settle it. It will be overkill for us, but hey, what can you do if Kishi is making NS obvious.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

It was a hypothetical question .

 

I know a hypothetical question when I see one.

[BlueStarSaber]

Yeah, but apparently, it's being debated now, so I guess they need this one to settle it. It will be overkill for us, but hey, what can you do if Kishi is making NS obvious.

 

I swear every women who has a romantic interest of a fool Needs to be 100% told she is like Sakura to get the point in everyone heads!

[FreakySandra1995]

Yeah, but apparently, it's being debated now, so I guess they need this one to settle it. It will be overkill for us, but hey, what can you do if Kishi is making NS obvious.

Guees so, but even if they get the parallel (nearly impossible, but at this point Rin can even be compared to Iruka if Kishi feels like it) it would make NaruHina equal to us, but not end game. Giving Hinata a Parallel to Rin wouldn't make the Kushina/Sakura Parallel dissapear. And Kushina was the one who clearly said she wants Naruto's future girl to be like her as a death wish. All in all, at the end it won't come up which parallel had more meaning but who feels what for the other person.

[Question22]

I wonder if Sakura would kiss Naruto in front everyone and if all the villagers would smile at the display like they did with the hug? Though at the moment I think their first kiss will be at the bench.

The dream of every NS fan and a fear to SS/NH fans.

Edited by Question22, 02 November 2013 - 04:14 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Guees so, but even if they get the parallel (nearly impossible, but at this point Rin can even be compared to Iruka if Kishi feels like it) it would make NaruHina equal to us, but not end game. Giving Hinata a Parallel to Rin wouldn't make the Kushina/Sakura Parallel dissapear. And Kushina was the one who clearly said she wants Naruto's future girl to be like her as a death wish. All in all, at the end it won't come up which parallel had more meaning but who feels what for the other person.

But would make her relevant to the plot wont she?

Wont make her one of the most important people to Naruto wont she?

Almost makes her a main character.

Hypothetically speaking off.

 

I would say that a parallel to Hinata is impossible due to the fact she already had "died" on the pain arc and didnt make Naruto go that further when it comes to what Obito felt about Rin, he didnt even thought about giving up he just raged but still doesnt come close to what Obito was thinking when Rin died.

Pain arc already kills off the idea of Hinata = Rin, and the fact that by far Naruto vowed he would protect Sakura.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 02 November 2013 - 04:20 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Plus Naruto placed her on the friend list. When he was in Kyuubi, he was growing fear that all of his friends are dying, so Kyuubi almost got him. That said why not just said Hinata only. It sounds selfish but it's one way to place you at top.

[FreakySandra1995]

But would make her relevant to the plot wont she?

Wont make her one of the most important people to Naruto wont she?

Almost makes her a main character.

Hypothetically speaking off.

 

I would say that a parallel to Hinata is impossible due to the fact she already had "died" on the pain arc and didnt make Naruto go that further when it comes to what Obito felt about Rin, he didnt even thought about giving up or revenge.

Pain arc already kills off the idea of Hinata = Rin, and the fact that by far Naruto vowed he would protect Sakura.

 

Well, that's true.Dunno, wish I could explain it better but my vocabulary isn't so good for that. I just can't think of any way possible to let Kishimoto make a Rin/Hinata parallel at all without making it seems like something unreal.  Maybe that's why I'm not worried at all of such a thing. I tend more to think that a parallel in a romance way wouldn't even be adressed by Naruto and Obito, as it could make the person they are talking about a target. And I doubt that Naruto would risk that, even if he believes in a good Obito.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Plus Naruto placed her on the friend list. When he was in Kyuubi, he was growing fear that all of his friends are dying, so Kyuubi almost got him. That said why not just said Hinata only. It sounds selfish but it's one way to place you at top.

Plus that later on 613 she tried to die once again to protect Naruto, until Neji came in and did that, and told Naruto that she was doing that because he was important to her and that all of his friends aswell are capable of doing the same.
It greatly downplayed her feats when it comes to sacrificing for Naruto.

 

 

 

Well, that's true.Dunno, wish I could explain it better but my vocabulary isn't so good for that. I just can't think of any way possible to let Kishimoto make a Rin/Hinata parallel at all without making it seems like something unreal.  Maybe that's why I'm not worried at all of such a thing. I tend more to think that a parallel in a romance way wouldn't even be adressed by Naruto and Obito, as it could make the person they are talking about a target. And I doubt that Naruto would risk that, even if he believes in a good Obito.

 

Just to finish up It only could happen at least a minor chance if Naruto developed feelings for her which would make her special or have a different reaction than Pain's arc indictating his feelings developed, but after seeing Naruto calling Sakura his girlfriend and he feelings jealous on 632~.

It's unlikely.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 02 November 2013 - 04:35 PM.

[Question22]

But would make her relevant to the plot wont she?
Wont make her one of the most important people to Naruto wont she?
Almost makes her a main character.
Hypothetically speaking off.
 
I would say that a parallel to Hinata is impossible due to the fact she already had "died" on the pain arc and didnt make Naruto go that further when it comes to what Obito felt about Rin, he didnt even thought about giving up he just raged but still doesnt come close to what Obito was thinking when Rin died.
Pain arc already kills off the idea of Hinata = Rin, and the fact that by far Naruto vowed he would protect Sakura.

The whole idea of the pain arc was to make naruto turn kyuubi kishi would of wanted sai to turn and jump in and save naruto then its narusai at its finest :-P but kishi puts hina instead for development and i think the same happened in 615 it was for hina to accomplish her goal to stand by naruto's side and be aknowledged and then her development probaaly ends here.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

The whole idea of the pain arc was to make naruto turn kyuubi kishi would of wanted sai to turn and jump in and save naruto then its narusai at its finest :-P but kishi puts hina instead for development and i think the same happened in 615 it was for hina to accomplish her goal to stand by naruto's side and be aknowledged and then her development probaaly ends here.

 

I don't believe Hinata's development is over. She still hasn't really changed and is still lacking in confidence, not to mention Kishi had her flash back to 615 and show Naruto squeezing her hand, which I don't think was originally included in 615, and she has expressed once again her desire to stand beside him, so I definitely am not ready to call her character complete. We'll be seeing more of her, perhaps even more 'moments' with Naruto, I just hope people don't freak out again when it happens.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't know. I feel like her character is always meant that way, regardless if people finds it annoying or not. 615 follow up was 633. Now, she's being placed in friends list. If there's more, good for her, but after this arc, it will be irrelevant from that point forward. Unless Naruto message to Obito before he converts is, "Besides, I got two when one fails, so suck on that!"

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I don't know. I feel like her character is always meant that way, regardless if people finds it annoying or not. 615 follow up was 633. Now, she's being placed in friends list. If there's more, good for her, but after this arc, it will be irrelevant from that point forward. Unless Naruto message to Obito before he converts is, "Besides, I got two when one fails, so suck on that!"

 

 

I don't believe Hinata's development is over. She still hasn't really changed and is still lacking in confidence, not to mention Kishi had her flash back to 615 and show Naruto squeezing her hand, which I don't think was originally included in 615, and she has expressed once again her desire to stand beside him, so I definitely am not ready to call her character complete. We'll be seeing more of her, perhaps even more 'moments' with Naruto, I just hope people don't freak out again when it happens. 

 

I think the same, that her development hasnt ended, but it's something that she will have to realize by herself, Naruto loving Sakura it's already a sign for her to wake up, i mean on this arc she would had to worry about her clan and her friends but what we've seen so far is Hinata thinking about Naruto 24/7.

All the things she did was related to Naruto in a way i mean when Lee was crying over Neji's death she didnt give a speech to him or said something, she could not express anything against Sasuke when he came back but Shino who barely talks on the manga, voiced up against him.

I would say that Hinata lacks a purpose and an objective on her life, if her character is meant to be finished she has to get this.

Otherwise she will continue just running around with her infatuation on Naruto.

 

After this she's once again fighting alongside Naruto so it can makes an even, but still i sort off believe it's not her definitive objective because it's provisory, it screams like insecurity plus infatuation.

Sakura's desire to be strong because she didnt wanted to be protected by Naruto and Sasuke all the times and she got other objective which is to help Naruto on the Sasuke's matter after it she will get up with nothing and will have to face what she wants to her life.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 02 November 2013 - 05:19 PM.