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Posted 01 November 2013 - 01:43 AM

 

I might be misremembering, but I don't think Yamato was contacted, I thought Yamato could tell that Naruto was transforming because of the seal he placed on the First's necklace?

 

I actually watched the Pain arc, the Hinata filler within the Pain arc really annoyed me.  I'm OK with fillers as a whole, but there was just too much Hinata during an arc/fight that was about Naruto finally showing the villagers what he's made of.

 

 

 

I agree with your entire post.  Honestly, I find Hinata's love for Naruto to be spiritual in nature rather than romantic or sexual.

 

 

 

Not at all, I think among the Western fandom there's a lot of misreading of the manga and a lot of misunderstanding of the characters and relationships.  Hinata isn't an offensive character (I don't like her), but that doesn't mean that she's inspirational --especially when compared to Sakura who doesn't come from a major/influential clan, doesn't have secret clan techniques or a KG etc etc etc-- and I think it's pretty clear that Hinata's development should involve her realization that she should love herself and love her own strength.  Nearly every time Hinata has acted because of her love for Naruto/Naruto's nindo there have been negative consequences (against Neji, when she was distracted while facing Tobi, when fighting Pain, when Neji died).  Really, what makes Hinata different from other characters is in that her "growth" doesn't revolve around loving Naruto more, but the necessary realization that she should trust herself, and her strengths a bit more.  Hinata's great flaw is that she refuses to evaluate herself, that's what she needs to do to grow.  Kishi didn't screw up, he depicts Hinata's willingness to go far for Naruto without coming up with tactics negatively, if anything some of us who  have screwed up for missing this pattern that Kishi has clearly given us.  Honestly, Hinata just isn't that important as a character.  SS/Sasuke is different because that relationship involves three main characters, it's team 7-centric, and Naruto has indicated that he would give up his chance with Sakura so that she's happy, but Kishi has shown us that Sasuke doesn't make Sakura happy (and he never actually did).  Even before 631, I felt that the writing was so obviously in favor of NS that it hurt (it hurt because so many people miss it completely, it hurt because I wasn't in favor of NS).  I think everything needs to be put in terms of the right context/perspective.

 

Anyway, why worry so much about the antis in the West?  As long as my reading in the manga is close to the way in which the majority of Japanese (and even Asian readers in general) read the manga, I'm happy.  =)  Though, I'm also happy if I watch cute doggie videos on YT!

 

They also gave hinata a movie quality like animation,flashbacks that never happen in the canon manga. Meanwhile the 6 tails vs pein fight had a cheap sloppy,flash, loony tunes like animation.  



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 06:15 AM

Man, I can't wait for the end of one pairing or maybe two in this arc, but I think one leads to the ticking time bomb anyway. The point is the excuse days are almost over. Once it is, if you ever recap, the whole bond developments for other will be different in many eyes. This applies to many, not just you know who. That said the time is almost over.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 08:51 AM

Lol.

 

Naruto's pro-Sakura, not Pro SasuSaku. He just wants her to be happy.

 

That's true, however you can't even come close in making people concede that he supports her happiness . When you point at Sai's flashback that Naruto still wants to confess to Sakura after the POAL has been fulfilled they say its outdated or begin to flip flop , lol. Double standards ftw... People really misinterpret the POAL and its purpose . -_-
 

 

 

They aired an episode where team 7 and hinata was younger from part 1 they made sakura bratty child and bully to naruto and meanwhile hinata is innocent angel whos brave enough to defend her love which im sorry, but it is pretty occ back then she wasn't brave or confident to speak to naruto and fainted half of the time and she never did anything other than watch from afar until the chinun exam and years later. :ermm:

Also why did they always have to bring the bad traits of the part one days of Naruto? Can the just accept the fact sakura is changing to a better person now and support kishi's work?. oh, but making fun of the character they hate is more easier i guess.   :down:

 

Anyway I also remember when the studio also aired an episode where naruto and he's friend had a bbq party and the anime team again poke fun of sakura and made sulk in a corner meanwhile hinata is strong confident women that talks to her friends and enjoys the party with naruto. And there was this one episode where they had tsunade out of all people drink alcohol with hinata.  :facepalm:  :facepalm:

 

At this point i despise the studio for being unprofessional with there biasness i know right they try to cover up there tracks of mishandling sakura, but to me the damage has been done to lose respect for that studio. -_- However the only remaining respect i have is the recent decent quality animation they gave with madara's first appearance and naruto juubi's transformation. 

 

When hinata's 615 moment comes up i guarantee that its going to sugar coated as much as the anime's pein arc.   

This sums it up, you CANNOT make Hinata look better if you don't bring down Sakura, that's what makes me indifferent to the anime studio even more -_-..


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 09:59 AM

It's only a matter of time, if not this arc then the coming final conflict with Sasuke will be the thing that pretty much brings narusaku forward. Naruto if anything will confess to sakura at a future chapter. As for now, a sakura rin parallel is within the realm of being reached, I mean we have a sakura Kushina one, if this comes forward with more stuff, should naruto focus on speaking or asking about rin, chances are he would relate sakura into it. The time is still ripe for this.

In the immediate moments after this, if obito is just stopped, all they have to do is deal with Madara. No idea how long this will last but he still has his plan to put forward.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 12:41 PM

WOAH sakura actually winning a poll in NarutoBase. I'm IMPRESSED.

 

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 01:16 PM

WOAH sakura actually winning a poll in NarutoBase. I'm IMPRESSED.
 
http://narutobase.ne...t=451518&page=4  < no bashing.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 01:20 PM

WOAH sakura actually winning a poll in NarutoBase. I'm IMPRESSED.

 

http://narutobase.ne...t=451518&page=4  < no bashing.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:25 PM

WOAH sakura actually winning a poll in NarutoBase. I'm IMPRESSED.

 

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That's just shocking to me cause to me the only poll she would be winning is the most disliked and hated anime character in the series.  :pinch:

 

Anyway im kinda of happy to hear to news.  



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 03:09 PM

If I were to answer that poll, I will say first Sakura, then Ino, then Hinata, then TenTen.



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 04:18 PM

Doesn't Sakura rank high in Japanese polls?

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 04:33 PM

 

Everyone reads it all differently.  I couldn't see SS working out unless things were tweaked --if Sakura was able to act as herself, if Sasuke didn't put above all other things, if Sasuke's bond with Sakura went beyond team 7-- things would need to change, but small things.  I just couldn't see Naruto and Hinata working out in the long run unless there were drastic changes to one or both of the characters.  Naruto would have to quiet down (how would Hinata react if the attention Naruto got was also focused on her?) etc etc.  Not to mention, I just don't that as she is now Hinata could have a healthy relationship, she needs to learn to love herself first.

 

Yeah, I thought she did know Naruto had Kurama sealed into him but wasn't sure and was unwilling to find the chapter...thanks, but did she know how his transformation was triggered (as he was overcome by negative emotions)?  I think Hinata is an extremely incompetent ninja, but it's obvious that she didn't mean for Naruto to transform.  Her actions could have caused Naruto's suicide, and I do blame her when I get really annoyed with her (like whenever I think about her too much, ugh), but her intention wasn't malicious.  Blaming for her incompetence as a ninja, her selfishness, the fact that she was a bystander etc etc is all fine IMO, as long as she's not characterized as malicious.
 

 

 

Does Hinata care about him, or his nindo?

 

 

 

Well, she didn't really know what was going on, did she?  She was getting reports from the Hyuga who was next to her, but she couldn't see, she was far away and she wasn't near anyone to plan.  I'd like to think Sakura isn't an incompetent ninja who jumps in when she knows she'd be in over her head.  When it mattered, she fulfilled her role perfectly.  She stepped up as the Hokage's apprentice, tried to get survivors away from Naruto as he was undergoing his transformation, saved Hinata's life.  People praise Hinata for jumping in, but I don't think that her actions are supposed to be praiseworthy.  She did nothing special, every single Konoha ninja was ready and willing to die for Naruto, was ready and willing to sacrifice the village for Naruto.  The difference between what they did vs what Hinata did was that Hinata illustrated that she could not function properly as a ninja, that a genin like Konohamaru contributed more and was a better tactician than Hinata.  But that's forgotten, that's ignored, it's as if some believe Hinata's willingness to die for Naruto was special or that she actually did something positive.

 

I guess the best way I can sum it up is that I feel overall more opened-minded to NaruHina than SasuSaku, and I definitely agree that I have a very hard time seeing how a long term relationship between Naruto and Hinata would work, or how they would even be able to interact in normal, everyday situations. Hinata is not someone I feel is at all ready to be in a relationship with anyone, let alone someone like Naruto, so on that we see eye to eye.

 

Bolded 1: No, I think she very likely didn't know how his transformation would be triggered, only the people closest to him know that. She acted in ignorance, thinking only of her own feelings, but not with ill intentions. 

 

Bolded 2: Like KnS said, I feel it's a little of both. She does have genuine affection for him, but it is based more on hero worship than romantic love, I don't believe that she ever expected Naruto to love her, or that she has any aspiration to 'win him over'. In the end, I think she just wants to be like him and feel acknowledged by him.

 

I agree 100% with the last paragraph, you said it better than I could.

 

 

Like many others, I cannot personally connect with Hinata or her issues.  As I've said a zillion times, I think she is a nice girl and means well, but I have difficulty feeling any true respect or admiration for her.  And I certainly don't see her as the right match for Naruto.  I can see no way that a relationship between them would be healthy or happy for either of them.  No, no, no.  No.

 

 

I can relate to Hinata's shyness, because it was something I also struggled with, and still slip into now and then, but also find it hard to really connect with her character on any other level. It is very difficult to truly sympathize with a character who is completely dependent on another. I can't say I feel much towards Hinata at all, mostly I would say I'm just indifferent.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 04:58 PM

What if Naruto decided to play along .What would Hinata do if Naruto actually played along and tried to kiss her ? Or even ask her lets make love ? Do you think Hinata would accept it ?

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 05:04 PM

What would Hinata do if Naruto actually played along and tried to kiss her ? Or even ask her lets make love ? Do you think Hinata would accept it ?

 

Well, for one I certainly don't think Naruto would ever "play along".



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 05:07 PM

That's true. No way Naruto is like that with any others. He's like a guy who can see other girls, but never get deep with them. You know, being a pervert, but never hit first base. That said if Naruto does that, well I think Hinata will faint before it goes further than that.



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 05:11 PM

That's true. No way Naruto is like that with any others. He's like a guy who can see other girls, but never get deep with them. You know, being a pervert, but never hit first base. That said if Naruto does that, well I think Hinata will faint before it goes further than that.

 

A NaruSaku fan once called Naruto an "innocent pervert", meaning he has a natural attraction to the opposite sex, but doesn't often realized he is acting in a way that is considered 'perverted', and I feel that is true. He comes across so innocent, especially when he goes on to Yagura about dying before he could kiss a girl. :excited:



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 05:49 PM

 

A NaruSaku fan once called Naruto an "innocent pervert", meaning he has a natural attraction to the opposite sex, but doesn't often realized he is acting in a way that is considered 'perverted', and I feel that is true. He comes across so innocent, especially when he goes on to Yagura about dying before he could kiss a girl. :excited:

That's a good way to put it. That scene was pretty funny because I didn't really expect him to react like that. I guess Naruto loves to see anyone with a love interest in their life. Actually, come to think of it, that does seem like him because what's odd about part 1 filler is that Naruto always catch a guy who loves the other filler character. For canon, he seems serious about it, whether he shows it in a comedy or a serious tone. No wonder he cried for Obito and Rin because it's like he had it good, but she died, which made him sad. Let's not forget that he asked Kushina about her love life. Yeah, he's serious about love.


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 07:22 PM

 
Well, for one I certainly don't think Naruto would ever "play along".


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 09:08 PM

Well things are possible for a Sakura/Rin parallel, even Naruto mentioning how if he lost Sakura he wouldn't commit to the stuff Obito did.

 

I understand how some NH fans relate Neji to the incident, but neji is just one friend of Naruto's the first close life friend he ever lost, not a love. Besides Naruto lost Jiraya first, he had experienced a loss before, but that also had development that made sense, tied into Shikamaru with his loss towards Asuma. But if we want to parallel Neji to anyone, its his own father. Neji's father died on his own will, just as Neji followed. Yes Rin died on her own will too but its not to the same extent of the other traits which still relate her towards Sakura. Main point of a parallel, aside from being established, there are certain traits in one character and another that are errly similar, hence why naruto is paralleled in aspects towards Minato and Kushina, but that Minato aspect is dominant as we've seen it so much more. In this case, out of all the similarities rin has around herself, she is easier to relate to Sakura than Neji despite the sacrifices she and Neji made. Rather how is Neji supposed to relate to Rin when there are more reasons relating towards Sakura, such as well Naruto loves Sakura and wants to protect her right? If Obito is supposed to be the opposite of Naruto, being the bad of everything Naruto could have done if he gave into despair, then we should guess that if Sakura had been harmed in some way, Naruto would have turned out the same right?

 

Neji isn't like Rin despite acts of sacrifice. While the sacrifices can be seen as similar in some cases, the potential of a parallel is much more apporpiate to see Sakura and Rin rather than Neji and Rin. Its just like when people tried to compare Hinata towards either Minato or Kushina, until an established parallel is made then everything else is speculatory. Sakura = Kushina as the only girl compared to her right now, Sakura is the only girl like Kushina, that parallel was established by Minato no less yet there was plenty of screen evidence to support who Kushina was more like.

 

A Sakura/Rin parallel is likely, but at this point some fans are hoping for a sudden 450 surprise but from NH this time. I'm just going to say, while it can occur, whats the point? I mean Hinata had her moment in the pain arc, Sakura's moment in 450 was a first time event, like after all that chaos, this was the first time Sakura was truely compassionate to Naruto on her own choice, she was thankful for him saving the village. I still feel Sakura's hug is a more significant scene than Hinata's confession for these reasons:

 

1. Look at Hinata before the pain event, chunin exams and her short appearances in the sasuke and sai arc and tagging along with her team and team 7 in the itachi pursuit arc. What did Hinata do on her own with until that time? Not much, her only major arc until the ten tails revival was the chunin exams and that was rather well, her intro arc. After neji was pummeled, she really had no significance in part 1 after that.

 

2. Hinata hasn't been used as much, she had no real development in part 2 until the pain arc, literally its like this, chunin exam she is introduced, finals she just gets motivation after seeing naruto beat neji. Part 2 starts, she is reintroduced but faints, she tags along with the itachi hunt team but has no real development. In all respect, the itachi pursuit was focused on Sasuke and Itachi obviously, Naruto and the rest took a backseat to hunt, only causing more anguish if anything upon Naruto and Sakura for failing to save Sasuke again.

 

3. So we reach Pain, guess what? she confesses, at this point, how much had Hinata actually changed? Its like this was a big part of her character and its already been spoken to her idol. We still haven't had enough time with Hinata at this point, literally with just one arc of moderate development and nothing else, now she is suddenly important? Thats the deal there, the confession wasn't unmerited just, may have come at the wrong time, if kishi had used her more and given her more scenes, even just in downtime it wouldn't have been as offputting, I mean the biggest offense, this confession happened and just practically vanished with only a short memory of Naruto's clone when he meets her again during the war. Thats the only notion of continuing this so far at presant.

 

So why the hug then?

 

Look at Sakura, easy enough. She hated Naruto, wanted nothing to do with him. Became friends, and after the big fight and damage event, she hugs him. Why? It was a sign of how much she had changed. It was something that occurred for the first time that could never have 3 years ago when they were 12-13. Sakura hugging Naruto in one way was not only thanks but to show how far she had come with him, how far their friendship had become. Naruto was shocked, he didn't expect Sakura to do that. People can try to downplay it all they want and try to make issues about how he doesn't react, no its simple. Naruto was shocked that Sakura did that because he never expected her to act that openly to him. It was a major stride between them and it was the first time, in chp 450 we saw the girl who once hated and dispised Naruto, now embracing him for his efforts and thanking him.

 

Many people still have the ideal of Hinata Hinata as the main character or part of the main cast, they think she is the heroine. Others think that for some reason Kishi is messing with the fanbase or that fan size for Hinata makes a difference.

 

Again these are wrong, all accounts. There is a difference for characters, in position and role and focus. A position is like the critical spots a story needs, a protagonist, antagonist, both have secondary protraginoists aka main characters. A role however is something like hero, villian, heroine, villianess, anti-hero, anti-villian (yes these exist, as an anti-hero lacks all the qualities of other heroes, anti-villians exist to do evil stuff but less severe or they hold some neutral self interest, sometimes sparing others if they are not worth a kill or blow etc). Not all roles are given in every story, I mean look at Dragon Ball, Bulma was by all acounts a secondary protagonist and the heroine. By DBZ she was only a secondary protagonist until the frieza saga ended. So by all acounts, Dragonball had a heroine but DBZ didn't. Obviously under these, the major, minor, and reoccurring characters exist. In Naruto, simple examples of Major include Shikamaru, Gaara, and Tsunade. Minor include team 8, various Akaskui members, and tenten. Reoccuring are guys like the ramen man, Iruka, and 3rd hokage. The focus however is the point of the story at which we are seeing, the current setting. The mains, majors, minors, and reoccuring all have their positions, but at times the focus shifts towards one or some characters despite their role. I mean like this: Hidan and Kakuzu were minor villians, only had one arc, yet the arc focused on them even though main villians like Orochimaru, Kabuto, and Itachi (at the time) were still of more importance. This is exactly the ordeal for team 10 and shikamaru in the hidan and kakazu arc, the focus was mostly on them with team 7 including Naruto going on a different lesser focus (training in this case).

 

As for the other reasons of kishi trolling the fanbase, no this is a dumb reason, he doesn't go out of his way to make the story seem like an emtional rollercoster of who dates who like in romance series, he doesn't. The emotional rollercoster Kishi puts out is based on constant aspects of friends and loss in a world where they must fight. NOT WHO DATES WHO. Seriously, 631 wasn't made to screw NH fans over, it was made because kishi wanted to say regardless of any ending, NS or not, Sakura has some similatires to Kushina, thats all. Not inducing love aspects as many think. Likewise, fanbase size makes no difference either. Anyone who seriously still believes this needs to stop reading and realize, theres a difference between fanbase appiriation and fanservice. Kishi isn't going all fanservice, otherwise if NH was making an impact then why would he do 631 as Sakura to Kushina when he could have easily just surprised everyone with Hinata to Kushina? Seriously, fanbase size matters not. Otherwise, 631 as it was written proves that fanbase size doesn't matter since it caused such an uproar for fans and Kishi did this along with Sasuke's recent choice to aid the allaince (until later).

 

But as far as anything goes, if NH was shown as much as NS, if Hinata had more of the focus despite being a minor character, if Kishi developed more with Naruto and Hinata at anypoint in the gap between 469 to 631 to the point it made Naruto see her more than Sakura, then yeah NH would have been better. But seriously, what does NH have left aside from simply resolving the confession? Sakura has her feelings towards both Naruto and Sasuke. Sakura has focused on Naruto practically 90% this arc, bypassing Sasuke and saying she doesn't trust him. NS has Sasuke as a factor and the final fight can be a major resolution one for NS. NH has nothing even connected to Sasuke. The fact that Hinata and Sasuke never even talked together once, thats a big gap right there. If Hinata isn't even important around the main plot like Sakura is, thats a big disadvantage right there. This exists, Hinata without Sasuke ever interacting equals what is her real importance? Nejis gone, if not for Naruto Hinata would be reduced to what Tenten has been, a simple unimportant background character whos just there for the sake of being there. At this point Hinata is basically that spare romance token character, but with so much invested development in Sakura and what remaining acceptable development to finish Hinata, to just slap Naruto with her and send Sakura to Sasuke... what on earth would that accomplish? Its just a big waste. Hinata can suprise us again, but with this battle about over, with what Naruto is talking about, its so likely Sakura can be brought up in how he loves her or she can again suprise Naruto for accomplishing the fight. But seriously, people hoping for a neji revival, that would completely negate the importance of 615, it would just be more BS and just really undue what Hinata just did.

 

If Neji comes back then NH fans would need to acknowledge this:

1. They cannot blame Sakura for his death, he would be fine

2. Neji coming back by rinne tensei would absoluitely cancel out the importance of Hinata's speech of giving up lives when one can come back just because of your efforts, wheres the perpose of sacrifice neji did then?

3. Hinata would go back even further, just cause she mastered 64 palms, what about her forced growth in the war to help naruto? With neji now she is back to being focused on both naruto and neji but doesn't have a direct focus on naruto anymore does she?

4. 631 was untouched yet still in effect, sakura being compared to kushina had no impact on nejis actions anyway shape or form. This big factor is still in play regardless if neji is stuck dead or if he came back.

 

But neji isn't coming back, NH fans need a choice, reduce hinata's character development or go forward with neji's death for more in the future. Either way 631 is untouched and still the biggest hint of what lies ahead.

 

NS has been constant, it has that most important element, development and screentime. Its been there, its gone through so much. 631 is just a small hint building on top of kushinas foreshadow. Its a small bonus. NH meantime remains unaddressed and long untouched. I cannot say I will be suprised if didn't take much to resolve it. Seriusly anytime now there can be a Naruto thinking how he feels about sakura. If his feelings havn't changed at this point. If this is the final battle before sasuke, this was Hinata's last fight. So how can Hinata, having no importance around Sasuke, having to compare with all of Sakura's development and growth and time with Naruto, having little change in herself, having to deal with the 631 and 635 events, manage to gain some sort of importance over all this in a fight she has no correlation with at all? She can't. Its becoming harder and harder to make Nh believable at this point and if this was the last battle with her, well if there is even a moment Naruto shows thinking how he wants team 7 or loving Sakura, if he hasn't changed at this point. Its just impossible for NH to become canon at that time. Its just very very hard for it right now.

 

As said many times. NS has all the development, screentime, and pacing to stand as a well developed story relationship from shaky starts to a great fully developed ending one. Development is what counts and the dynamics between them are just that, believable. All the parts for it are laid out, kishi can write it virtually anyway now. He did some with 631. The parallels are just a bonus yet they still hint where kishi can be heading.



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:50 PM

 

 

But as far as anything goes, if NH was shown as much as NS, if Hinata had more of the focus despite being a minor character, if Kishi developed more with Naruto and Hinata at anypoint in the gap between 469 to 631 to the point it made Naruto see her more than Sakura, then yeah NH would have been better. But seriously, what does NH have left aside from simply resolving the confession? Sakura has her feelings towards both Naruto and Sasuke. Sakura has focused on Naruto practically 90% this arc, bypassing Sasuke and saying she doesn't trust him. NS has Sasuke as a factor and the final fight can be a major resolution one for NS. NH has nothing even connected to Sasuke. The fact that Hinata and Sasuke never even talked together once, thats a big gap right there. If Hinata isn't even important around the main plot like Sakura is, thats a big disadvantage right there. This exists, Hinata without Sasuke ever interacting equals what is her real importance? Nejis gone, if not for Naruto Hinata would be reduced to what Tenten has been, a simple unimportant background character whos just there for the sake of being there. At this point Hinata is basically that spare romance token character, but with so much invested development in Sakura and what remaining acceptable development to finish Hinata, to just slap Naruto with her and send Sakura to Sasuke... what on earth would that accomplish? Its just a big waste. Hinata can suprise us again, but with this battle about over, with what Naruto is talking about, its so likely Sakura can be brought up in how he loves her or she can again suprise Naruto for accomplishing the fight. But seriously, people hoping for a neji revival, that would completely negate the importance of 615, it would just be more BS and just really undue what Hinata just did

I'll just ask them why "Sakura doesnt trusting Sasuke is viewed as something really important or impactfull.
I mean the guy tried to kill her and she knows Sasuke very well probably even more than Naruto in certain aspects i mean she knew he would leave the village for power while Naruto believed the other thing.
Naruto also looks like he's not aware of Sasuke's hidden motives, while Sakura is.

I mean at least she shows maturity when dealing with it instead of Ino but still doesnt show much things about where her feelings lie now.

About this specific part of the post, i would say that SS never give any positive development for Sakura.

She already explaiend that her desire to be strong was connected ot the fact she didnt wanted to be protected by them all the times, and her desire to help Naruto on the hospital moment, that's speaks of it.

Now about NH i can only point out that at least  Hinata get positive vibes from it instead of sadness, desilusion and betrayal on SS.

Hinata lacks atittude and self confidence this says why she doesnt match up with Naruto, she's someome who doesnt voice up her opinion but mostly keeps it for himself. 

Even when her friends stated the desire to be at his side when he becomes kage, she could not voice it too.

Naruto doesnt have chemistry with those type of girls.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 06:10 AM

I stand by my words: whoever parallels Rin, gets the win.

 

Interesting, it's the first time I checked NF after the release of the chapter and one is going his/her way to deny Rin and Sakura. Shockingly, they only say, "Personality, difference yes, but that's not where the parallel lies at." Granted you got other comments like fans who don't care, but no, "She is more to Rin than Sakura." Eh, I guess I should be ok with this. No need to debate since it's pretty much "She is" vs. "She is but kitten that."

 

You know, by this point, it goes to show you that Minato sure knows how to play match card right. I guess his experience with Kushina made him know how to see who is with who or at least the best potential.






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