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[narusaku4ver]

I just want to say that Hinata has no reason to stop loving Naruto. There is no evidence in the manga to support the idea of Hinata getting over Naruto, and that she feels threatened by Naruto being in love with Sakura or their close relationship.

yep me too, but also the fact that Naruto does not have any reasons to move on from Sakura since he's sticking to this decision after Sasuke's redemption.
He also shows that he cant accept Sakura if he does not save Sasuke because he's struck with that mental image.

And also we go to the double standard if she have the same nindo as Naruto why would she give up on Naruto? if Naruto too does not give up on Sakura?
the only one who can i see giving up here is Sakura because her nindo is not about "not giving up".
She give up on Sasuke for Naruto's sake, also then she give up and let Naruto handle the situation, but after all this there are something bothering her looks like she wants ot be usefull to Naruto perhaps it's because the confession?

Edited by narusaku4ver, 16 February 2013 - 09:36 PM.

[Qia]

Well the thread of about the discussion of NaruHina being more likely got closed. It makes sense given that this thread is an appropriate place for that topic.

I want to further continue the discussion with the last topic:

http://www.narusaku....s...st&p=438637

I really agree with this, but I want to hear other people's opinions. To me it seems Hinata already understands that Naruto will never see her in a romantic way but that she'll do everything she can to be of help. Hence chapter 615.

I remember having a discussion on this with Poison, and came to the same conclusion basically xD: This is the basic summary

"What if Hinata’s hand holding wasn’t meant to be romantic in the first place? It’s just a thought. I keep thinking of the face Hinata made when Sakura hugged Naruto. Plus there was the whole “…” in her speech bubble, which makes me think something was running through her head at that point. We already saw that she was thankful he was alive before, so that can’t be it. And then everyone else at that moment won’t given a speech bubble, so what would be the special purpose of that? Maybe she saw something there?

She said (in 573) after the war she’ll stop chasing him, especially since she won’t have the time to chase him during the war. But then on the next page she says NEXT TIME I’LL BE HOLDING YOUR HAND AND WALKING WITH YOU, which doesn’t have to be in a romantic way if we were to stick with the previous page and the hug scene, especially after those “….” that was placed there again. It seems as if it was a hard decision for her to make, you know? I still think her feelings are still there. However, she’s willing to still protect him and have that friendship with him and walk with him. She’s still willing to die for him, same as Neji and Naruto’s other friends (and some will die as well to reinforce this)

But again…this is just speculation. I don’t expect everyone to agree with this . So please share what you think.

Just to add a Sasusaku’s shipper opinion to this possibility:

“This manga has used “the chase” in other situations, too. Sasuke and Naruto’s relationship has a similar theme. From chapter 485, Naruto says to Sasuke “And I kept chasing you, wanting to be just as strong, just as cool”. I remember Sakura also saying something like she has been watching Naruto and Sasuke’s backs, not being as good as them, but wanting to protect them and make them watch her back instead. It seems to relate to them all trying to become more talented and creating bonds with other people.”

Edited by Qia, 16 February 2013 - 09:49 PM.

[HauntedCake]

I respect your opinion but i'll also disagree you forgot that on 540, when Naruto saved Hinata, Naruto said that she was strong, and she was thinking i was "always chasing him" the chasing him is that she wanted to become stronger because she wanted to protect Naruto and she "failed" this whole chasing was totally off-panel and retarded, because if she was chasing Naruto why she didnt surpassed Neji and also why she didnt really got stronger?
Not she "hiding her feelings from him" because in case your forgot she said i love you on Pain's arc.

Good points there and i agree. However when it comes to the pain arc where she confessed that was more of a reckless confession due to Naruto being in danger, rather then her doing the same any other time in there normal day to day routines or whatever (this is another discussion entirely so i won't delve too deep).

Were she to go up to Naruto say she loves him and he is her insperation etc etc etc under normal circumstances (Not when he looks like hes going to die) then i could agree then that she wasn't hiding her feelings. I understand the point you are saying that she actually has confessed and brought her feeling to light, but as i said they were brought out only when Naruto looked like he was about to be killed.

In other words when i say she hides her feeling in the shadows, i generally mean that she didn't do it when there wasn't any danger(Danger that she will never of been able to tell him (if he had died or was captured). I hope you understand what i'm trying to say lol because i'm having a hard time trying to express what i feel in words.

[luffyq1]

So the question is: why on earth make Hinata say such a contradictory statement? It couldn't have been because Kishi thought is was a funny thing to do. Or maybe it was but I'll give him more credit then that.

It's not about Hinata stopping to love Naruto, it's about her coming to the conclusion that it's not something meant to be. But even then the only evidence would be her speech in 573 which even I'll admit could be wrong.

Of course is not hard to swallow the idea that she still wants Naruto to love her, that's easier to swallow than baby food. I'm just offering an idea to a possible scenario that I think could easily play out given Hinata's speech.

But there's really no struggle of her getting to that conclusion that it's best for her to move on just because it's not "something meant to be".

So the real question is (lol sorry): Why have an angsty story line for Naruto's love for Sakura that opens up room for him to move on? Like witnessing the SasuSaku hug, and finding out she loves Sasuke.

Why have an angsty story line for Sakura's love that opens up room for her to move on? Like being rejected, leaving the village, and almost killing her.

But where the hell is Hinata's angsty story line for her love for Naruto that opens up room for her to move on? It's not there because it doesn't exist.

Edited by luffyq1, 16 February 2013 - 09:39 PM.

[T XD]

I just want to say that Hinata has no reason to stop loving Naruto. There is no evidence in the manga to support the idea of Hinata getting over Naruto, and that she feels threatened by Naruto being in love with Sakura or their close relationship. There's really no conflict when it comes to her love for Naruto.

One thing, her saying that she'll stop chasing after him after the war is the key word here. she said it, or thought of it, literally. If it wouldn't be for that word than I would be saying the same thing that you're saying XD

I'm not expecting her to not think about him or show her love for him at all after the war, but the idea here os that she wants and willing to let him go.

Edited by T XD, 16 February 2013 - 09:45 PM.

[HauntedCake]

If you're under the impression that Hinata will most definitely start pushing her feelings onto Naruto then it's obvious you would come towards that conclusion and interpretation. But if you believe that Hinata might finally understand that Naruto doesn't see in a romantic manner then you would come to the conclusion I've proposed.

Opinion of those panels depends highly on what you think will be the action of the characters in the future. It's the same for chapter 615. Since many people are under the believe that Naruto will inevitably start loving Hinata (even if that came from out of nowhere) they conclude that Naruto holding Hinata's hand is basically his way of proposing marriage to her.

Although in the end we could both be wrong and her words had nothing to do with romance. It could be that when she said chasing it was from her desire to be like him, but that after the war she'll find her own path and not depend on Naruto. And since she won't use Naruto as a crutch she'll be able to hold his hand and be an equal to him.

Good point agreed

[narusaku4ver]

One thing, her saying that she'll stop chasing after him after the war is the key word here. she said it, or thought of it, literally. If it wouldn't be for that word than I would be saying the same thing that you're saying XD

I'm not expecting her to not think about him or show her love for him at all after the war, but the idea here os that she wants and willing to let him go.

she'll stop chasing after him after the war but next time i'll be there walking with you and holding your hand.
it's a bit complicated it also means that after the war she will stop chasing him but when the next time they meet "she will be there walking with him and holding his hand" having the same meaning as fighting alongside him.

or After the war i'll stop chasing you but next time we will be together walking and holding hands.

but any of those she says that she will stop loving him.

But there's really no struggle of her getting to that conclusion that it's best for her to move on just because it's not "something meant to be".

So the real question is (lol sorry): Why have an angsty story line for Naruto's love for Sakura that opens up room for him to move on? Like witnessing the SasuSaku hug, and finding out she loves Sasuke.

Why have an angsty story line for Sakura's love that opens up room for her to move on? Like being rejected, leaving the village, and almost killing her.

But where the hell is Hinata's angsty story line for her love for Naruto that opens up room for her to move on? It's not there because it doesn't exist.

+5 rep for you.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 16 February 2013 - 09:49 PM.

[redragon88]

@luffyq1

Well, let's put it this way. Since Hinata has no angst then she's the perfect candidate to not have her love returned. That's where the least heartbreak resides. The less depressing conclusion.

Naruto being rejected feels like it would offer the biggest heartbreak, while Sakura instead of rejection is finally able to properly move on to true love so there's no heartbreak from her part.

[luffyq1]

One thing, her saying that she'll stop chasing after him after the war is the key word here. If it wouldn't be for that word than I would be saying the same thing that you're saying XD

But that doesn't make any sense giving the fact that Kishi has devoted zero panel time that would lead her to stop chasing after him romantically. No sad expressions, thoughts, or anything that could suggest that she is jealous in the slightest. With Naruto you have all of that, and that goes for Sakura as well. It just doesn't make any sense why anyone would put much thought into the idea of Hinata getting over Naruto when her love hasn't gotten the tiniest negativity.

Edited by luffyq1, 16 February 2013 - 09:51 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm starting to think NaruHina was never meant to be but a fanside shipping like something for the fans to come up with fan fiction. That's what I'm thinking and sticking to it. Kishi could have present it as a serious thing, honestly, he hasn't. Friendship yes, romance no.

[Qia]

But that doesn't make any sense giving the fact that Kishi has devoted zero panel time that would lead he to stop chasing after him romantically. No sad expressions, thoughts, or anything that could suggest that she is jealous in the slightest. With Naruto you have all of that, and that goes for Sakura's case as well. It just doesn't make any sense why anyone would put much thought into the idea of Hinata getting over Naruto when her love hasn't gotten the tiniest negativity.

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Would this count as anything to you? Her moving on from Naruto doesn't necessarily have to be for a negative reason, after all.

[HauntedCake]

I heard somewhere that apparently Sasuke is Kishi's favorite character. Will he just troll all of us and ship SS?

[T XD]

she'll stop chasing after him after the war but next time i'll be there walking with you and holding your hand.
it's a bit complicated it also means that after the war she will stop chasing him but when the next time they meet "she will be there walking with him and holding his hand" having the same meaning as fighting alongside him.

or After the war i'll stop chasing you but next time we will be together walking and holding hands.

but any of those she says that she will stop loving him.


+5 rep for you.

Umm...are you confirming my post or not ? cause, bolded, you meant what generally I was saying

I'm having a hard time guessing what you mean specifically by your post...

[narusaku4ver]

I heard somewhere that apparently Sasuke is Kishi's favorite character. Will he just troll all of us and ship SS?

Why he drawed he trying to kill Sakura then(two times)?
Being an antagonist
And the fact that he drawed the lover-nin scene just to make Sakura realize that he's not a great guy and he does not deserve her love.

Umm...are you confirming my post or not ? cause, bolded, you meant what generally I was saying

I'm having a hard time guessing what you mean specifically by your post...

Neither i just put the two interpretations for this scene, and both does not imply that she has gotten over

here

Would this count as anything to you? Her moving on from Naruto doesn't necessarily have to be for a negative reason, after all.

and 450 who posted for some reason she's the only one who have a "..." reaction maybe is a hint that she would be fine with NS, different than Naruto when he witnessed SS he give the same "..." but with a sad expression and then smile faking his true feelings.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 16 February 2013 - 09:59 PM.

[luffyq1]

@luffyq1

Well, let's put it this way. Since Hinata has no angst then she's the perfect candidate to not have her love returned. That's where the least heartbreak resides. The less depressing conclusion.

Naruto being rejected feels like it would offer the biggest heartbreak, while Sakura instead of rejection is finally able to properly move on to true love so there's no heartbreak from her part.

Really, dragon? xD

I'm under the impression that you think her love for Naruto is not as strong as Naruto's love for Sakura or Sakura's love for Sasuke. Love is love, bro. And a rejection is going to hurt all of them, no more or less.

Edited by luffyq1, 16 February 2013 - 09:58 PM.

[narusaku4ver]

Really, dragon? xD

I'm under the impression that you think her love for Naruto is not as strong as Naruto's love for Sakura or Sakura's love for Sasuke. Love is love, bro. And a rejection is going to hurt all of them, no more or less.

I also thought the same but Sakura's hug gives the impression that she would be fine.

Naruto also witness Sakura hugging Sasuke and give the same reaction but with a sad expression.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 16 February 2013 - 10:01 PM.

[redragon88]

Really, dragon? xD

I'm under the impression that you think her love for Naruto is not as strong as Naruto's love for Sakura or Sakura's love for Sasuke. Love is love, bro. And a rejection is going to hurt all of them, no more or less.

That's real life, bro.

Welcome to the wonderful world of fiction where criminal masterminds are just misunderstood individuals that love too much.

[narusaku4ver]

That\'s real life, bro.

Welcome to the wonderful world of fiction where criminal masterminds are just misunderstood individuals that love too much.

Hinata = Madara 3.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 16 February 2013 - 10:06 PM.

[redragon88]

Hinata = Madara 3.

I guess the 5th ninja war will be instigated by Hinata and whatever angsty Hyuuga of the next generation.

[FoolishYoungling]

Naruto was sad when Sakura hugged Sasuke.

Sakura was sad when she found out that Hinata loved Naruto.

Hinata was happy when Sakura hugged Naruto.

Is Kishi setting something up? I'd think so.