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no sakura and ino love sasuke at first was just hero worship. hinata really does care about naruto she feels sorry for all the pain he had deal with in his life but always a happy and strong so other people will not worry about him. she wants naruto to be truly happy. and hinata thinks naruto is cute and funny and strong and brave. she would do anything for naruto even die to save him. if think hinata just hero worship you must not really look at hinata and naruto characters much. i study Philosophy and psychology so know what people are feeling and what is not there mind. i read deep in to most anime characters i can tell what make them the way thay are. hinata feeling for naruto are not hero worship it love for someone that is your soulmate. i been watching anime along time i read the
Except....she only possessed a cursory knowledge of it. I've seen plenty of arguments extolling Hinata's uniqueness, but she really isn't that unique. Not one shred of evidence she knew anything more than anyone else. She took what she saw and thought differently, but there is no evidence she knew anymore than anyone else. IMO, a true, deep love, generally requires a comparable understanding of the person otherwise you fall in love with a vision of the person whether or not it's fact and if that's the case, can it be true love? For much of Part 1, this could be said of Sakura, that she did not love Sasuke, but what she believed him to be. Something that occurred, in part, because she didn't know Sasuke at the time.
And here's the issue: Either one, you accept that Hinata doesn't know Naruto that well and thus, does not possess the true love you imply or two she does him very well and did nothing to help him. It doesn't speak well of Hinata to say that she knew him well, knew of his pain and how deep it ran and couldn't reach out to him. It means she saw someone in suffering and did nothing. Perhaps she didn't hit him like Sakura, but is not just as bad that she saw someone in suffering and did nothing to help. Inaction can be just as bad as action. Shyness isn't a carte blanche excuse that makes such a thing justified.
I don't think Kikittenmoto had that in mind. I think that what's been said of Hinata is more likely and that she didn't know him that well, she didn't know about the depth of his lonelines, and that really what she saw she admired, but really didn't see that much deeper than anyone else. There really isn't any evidence she did and, thus, it would stand to reason her love isn't as true as you say it is.
On the philosophical and psychological reference, I'm trying to understand the relevance. The implication is that it somehow makes you more qualified to make this kind of analysis. There is so much I could say in response, but I will simply bite my tongue and only say that as others have said this is literature. Simply looking at the characters as if they were real without any context and mention of Kishimoto's intent, thoughts, philosophies, and purpose, isn't going to work or sell many people.
I wouldn't even call what Sakura and Ino possessed hero worship, it was a crush and nothing more. Hinata feelings are a closer example of herowhorship, she wanted to be like him and saw him as someone to look up to. Can't recall when Sakura or Ino thought that of Sasuke.
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Hinata's feelings are no different than how Sakura feels. Sakura use to see Sasuke as just the coolest guy in school. But now it's true love (even though it's one-sided) and she loves Sasuke and possibly Naruto and both admire them. Why can Sakura can feel the same way but Hinata can't?
Prove it.
After being on the same team with him Sakura possess a deeper understanding of who his is and what makes him the way his is. I think the person that possesses the deepest understanding is Sasuke is probably Naruto, but that's beside the point. As I said, there is no evidence that she knows any more than anyone else. That right there is one reason why they might not. I'm not saying Hinata can't, but before I accept she does, you must prove it and I simply don't think you have.
And as been said, you're making an assumption about Sakura's feelings.
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I agree. But maybe Sasuke's not romantically interested in Sakura, or any other girl for that matter, is because first he has to defeat Itachi? I don't think he rejected or accepted her. (refering to the goodbye scene)
for the time being she has to not blame herself for Sasuke's leaving and not regret anything that has happened so far. But as we've seen post-Time Skip, her feelings for Sasuke haven't faded.
Why wouldn't Kishimoto take time out for Naruto to find time to love Hinata if she confesses to him?
Sakura's romantic interests may stray from Sasuke, but they haven't.
btw, I find it interesting that Naruto's crush on Sakura wasn't mentioned at all in his databook.
Sakura essentially offered him a choice when she confessed. She confessed her feelings and he still left. Looks like rejection to me. He chose his revenge over her feelings. It's not like the choice was mutually exclusive or anything. Moreover, there is no evidence he's doing this for her, nor is there evidence his intention is to kill Itachi then return. In other words, there isn't anything that suggests that he's just putting it off until he can kill Itachi. Hell, if anything what has happened so far suggests he has no attention of ever coming back to Konoha. That he trying to completely sever those bonds suggests as such otherwise such an act would make no sense at all. He spared Sakura a glance and that it's. No longing or anything.
I'm not sure how else to read it other than rejection of her offer.
You haven't proven her feelings are the same. Site evidence, at this point, you're simply stating it.
The Databook also called Hinata's feelings herowhorship and you've argued the contrary. You don't get to site the favorable sections and ignore the unfavorable ones. I find it interesting the databook is constantly cited as gospel even though the current one is two years old (and thus doesn't account for current development) and is cited as selectively as it is.
Finally, why would he take that time out for him to return his feelings? And, at this point he hasn't. To turn one of your questions back around: Why must Naruto be the one to change, why can't Sakura?
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