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[Inferno180]

Well despite still loving Sasuke after the 2 attempts on her life, Sakura spoke in Naruto's defense in the reunion in the land of iron.

Haters are just going, go away Sakura, you can't fight with the big boys, go back in the corner, or she is just going to go to Sasuke. Its like those who are now saying Minato and Kushina are unimportant to the story, well apparently those who saved Naruto don't matter. I'm beginning to feel that some of the mentality of haters has become like that gag in monty python and the holy grail, the part with the black knight where the knight gets its arm cut off and says, "Tis nothing but a flesh wound." I'm pretty sure there is a difference between losing an arm and a simple flesh wound.

And then we get some big moment where she choses Naruto over Sasuke and these people are left alone for a half hour trying to process this stuff as it goes along. Seriously, its not that hard to figure out. Yet all we will get is more Sakura bashing, because its easier to bash than try and figure out why these things happened. I mean the responses in a few places, are just well disheartening.

I seriously think that the fanbases and their demands thing I wrote is basically what the majority of the fanbase does, a fair portion of our own included, but its just ridiculous when so much hate is generated for no purposes or reasons to attribute why, apparently ignorance and arrogance are diseases, only way to cure them is using rationality and common sense.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Having read this chapter couple of times now I feel safe in saying that Im pretty assured that what Ive thought might be happening with Sasuke and Naruto is happening.

Namely that Sasuke is switching places with Naruto as the ""popuylar guy"" this is born out by Narutos memory of Itachis words. about Hokage, and Sasukes desire.

Im more firmly in the camp that they are changing places now with Sasuke being the one whose rejected and the one who has to regain the trust of his peers, and Naruto being the one who is accepted by everyone.

And of course I am happy with the simple confirmation of what weve known all along. NaruSaku is end game and weve been treated to their long and slow and wonderful road to each other.

I dont think they switch places, Naruto wanted to be hokage but most important he wanted everyone's acknowledgement "Fusion of his father and mother wishes".
Sasuke just want to be hokage because he thinks he's capable to end the mess on konoha and doesnt care who will oppose him.(arrogancy)
Naruto knows that to be hokage you must be acknowledged and Sasuke despite being "Popular" wasnt acknowledged.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 23 May 2013 - 06:39 PM.

[Hak]

Priceless chapter!

How I read THE part:

Minato: Naruto am I right to be waiting grandkids?

Naruto: Yeah dad, they're just around the corner!

Sakura: God damn it Naruto! It's a work in progress in your part and you've got some serious road still before you mister!!!

or something else among the lines...

[CloudMountainJuror]

Lol at people who say that Naruto was joking about Sakura being his girlfriend.
When Naruto was answering Minato it's obvious that he was considering things carefully. "Uhhmmm... Uhhm?(isn't she?) Yes!". I believe he took her confession into account. And if he said she's his girlfriend then shouldn't this mean that he accepted her feelings?

Naruto has joked about that before. Plus, again, it would be a stupid, stupid move to have had them get together off-screen.

Plus, if this was really saying that she's his girlfriend now, and this is the confirmation NaruSaku gets, then I am sorely disappointed. After all the crap they've been through, the pairing needs more than a hazy comic relief scene (it being hazy because, again, Naruto has fibbed about this exact question in the past) to confirm it as being canon. If this is all it's supposed to get, then Kishimoto has stopped caring completely about the pairing and just wanted to get it over with.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 23 May 2013 - 07:10 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I just love Sakura didnt correct him. Minato is like "Awesome. Like father, like son."

[James S Cassidy]

Naruto has joked about that before. Plus, again, it would be a stupid, stupid move to have had them get together off-screen.

Not really.

Plus, if this was really saying that she's his girlfriend now, and this is the confirmation NaruSaku gets, then I am sorely disappointed. After all the crap they've been through, the pairing needs more than a hazy comic relief scene (it being hazy because, again, Naruto has fibbed about this exact question in the past) to confirm it as being canon. If this is all it's supposed to get, then Kishimoto has stopped caring completely about the pairing and just wanted to get it over with.

I doubt it, but just in case it is, it is still better than a NH ending with no development and needing more asspulls than Sasuke can afford.

It's not the destination...it's the journey. So don't stop believing.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 23 May 2013 - 07:13 PM.

[T XD]

Sakura is almost done with storing her chakra, so I think that she won't show her real power in the next chapter since it seems that she needs a bit more time. Maybe at the end of the next chapter or in 633.

Edited by T XD, 23 May 2013 - 07:16 PM.

[Chatte]

Naruto has joked about that before. Plus, again, it would be a stupid, stupid move to have had them get together off-screen.

Plus, if this was really saying that she's his girlfriend now, and this is the confirmation NaruSaku gets, then I am sorely disappointed. After all the crap they've been through, the pairing needs more than a hazy comic relief scene (it being hazy because, again, Naruto has fibbed about this exact question in the past) to confirm it as being canon. If this is all it's supposed to get, then Kishimoto has stopped caring completely about the pairing and just wanted to get it over with.

Oh come on, I didn't ever think I'd see you like this...
It was only an normal answer given the cultural environment, we just talked about it on the previous page.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Not really.



I doubt it, but just in case it is, it is still better than a NH ending with no development and needing more asspulls than Sasuke can afford.

It's not the destination...it's the journey. So don't stop believing.

I'll elaborate: it'd be a stupid move them getting together off-screen if this is supposed to be the confirmation we get of it. This is all under the assumption that many people seem to have, the one where the girlfriend comment was supposed to have been taken seriously by the readers. If this scene was meant to support NaruSaku with Minato's comparison and the girlfriend line wasn't supposed to be taken seriously, then it's good support for NaruSaku. On the other hand, if this scene was meant to say that NaruSaku is canon, then it's plain lazy. (bolding that just because it's the main thing I was trying to say)

Yes, if this is supposed to make NaruSaku canon, it would be a better ending than the NH one you mentioned. That being said, it still wouldn't make this ending very good.

Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the people who think this chapter was great support for NaruSaku. I only think that, though, under the assumption that the girlfriend line was a joke. I do hope that we're still on the journey to NaruSaku, that this indeed wasn't the destination.

Oh come on, I didn't ever think I'd see you like this...
It was only an normal answer given the cultural environment, we just talked about it on the previous page.

If you did already cover this on the previous page, I apologize. I kinda skimmed over quite a bit of posts when I woke up, so I may have missed what you're referring to.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 23 May 2013 - 07:25 PM.

[Zatheko]

Naruto has joked about that before. Plus, again, it would be a stupid, stupid move to have had them get together off-screen.

Plus, if this was really saying that she's his girlfriend now, and this is the confirmation NaruSaku gets, then I am sorely disappointed. After all the crap they've been through, the pairing needs more than a hazy comic relief scene (it being hazy because, again, Naruto has fibbed about this exact question in the past) to confirm it as being canon. If this is all it's supposed to get, then Kishimoto has stopped caring completely about the pairing and just wanted to get it over with.

You don't have to take it as proof that NS is canon, but you can take it as proof that Naruto's feelings are still with Sakura and that he has none for Hinata. If he was over Sakura and felt something for Hinata then he would not have said yes to that question in front of both of them.

That is why I can still think of it as canon because to me, If Naruto STILL loves Sakura this far in the game after all that has happened then he will always love her, and I doubt Kishi is going to make the hero of the story allow the person he loves to be with someone else (Sasuke).

[HauntedCake]

Naruto has joked about that before. Plus, again, it would be a stupid, stupid move to have had them get together off-screen.

Plus, if this was really saying that she's his girlfriend now, and this is the confirmation NaruSaku gets, then I am sorely disappointed. After all the crap they've been through, the pairing needs more than a hazy comic relief scene (it being hazy because, again, Naruto has fibbed about this exact question in the past) to confirm it as being canon. If this is all it's supposed to get, then Kishimoto has stopped caring completely about the pairing and just wanted to get it over with.

That a good question, was this chapter.... it???? is that all there will be for NS now? i hope it isn't.

[Akashi]

Naruto has joked about that before. Plus, again, it would be a stupid, stupid move to have had them get together off-screen.

Plus, if this was really saying that she's his girlfriend now, and this is the confirmation NaruSaku gets, then I am sorely disappointed. After all the crap they've been through, the pairing needs more than a hazy comic relief scene (it being hazy because, again, Naruto has fibbed about this exact question in the past) to confirm it as being canon. If this is all it's supposed to get, then Kishimoto has stopped caring completely about the pairing and just wanted to get it over with.

Well like I said before, he's gone through some thinking when answering to Minato, it wasn't some quick "Yep... 100%". He had to analyze/remember his history with Sakura, hence "uhhm...... uhhhm?". If she confessed and he accepted her feelings (but they didn't have the chance to talk this through... etc.) then yeah, he can consider Sakura his girlfriend. It even can explain her shock: "so you accepted my feelings and I didn't even know???".

I'm sure that Kishi will give us a proper resolve a bit later. No worries.

Edited by Tauriel, 23 May 2013 - 07:26 PM.

[CloudMountainJuror]

You don't have to take it as proof that NS is canon, but you can take it as proof that Naruto's feelings are still with Sakura and that he has none for Hinata. If he was over Sakura and felt something for Hinata then he would not have said yes to that question in front of both of them.

That is why I can still think of it as canon because to me, If Naruto STILL loves Sakura this far in the game after all that has happened then he will always love her, and I doubt Kishi is going to make the hero of the story allow the person he loves to be with someone else (Sasuke).

Hm... I might be thinking of "canon" as different than others are. I'm thinking of NaruSaku being canon meaning that they're 100% together now, at this exact moment.

And yes, that is one thing I agree that the girlfriend comment did do. It did show that Naruto is still interested in Sakura.

Well like I said before, he's gone through some thinking when answering to Minato, it wasn't some quick "Yep... 100%". He had to analyze/remember his history with Sakura, hence "uhhm...... uhhhm?". If she confessed and he accepted her feelings (but they didn't have the chance to talk this through... etc.) then yeah, he can consider Sakura his girlfriend. It even can explain her shock: "so you accepted my feelings and I didn't even know???".

I'm sure that Kishi will give us a proper resolve a bit later. No worries.

That's what I'm hoping for. If there's more resolution for the pairing coming up, if there's more left to tell, then the pairing isn't 100% done yet, and this scene was utilized effectively by Kishimoto and didn't overshoot its bounds into naming NaruSaku canon. Or, well, canon in the sense that I'm thinking of (a.k.a. they're together at this exact moment, no question about it).

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 23 May 2013 - 07:35 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

I'll elaborate: it'd be a stupid move them getting together off-screen if this is supposed to be the confirmation we get of it. This is all under the assumption that many people seem to have, the one where the girlfriend comment was supposed to have been taken seriously by the readers. If this scene was meant to support NaruSaku with Minato's comparison and the girlfriend line wasn't supposed to be taken seriously, then it's good support for NaruSaku. On the other hand, if this scene was meant to say that NaruSaku is canon, then it's plain lazy. (bolding that just because it's the main thing I was trying to say)

Yes, if this is supposed to make NaruSaku canon, it would be a better ending than the NH one you mentioned. That being said, it still wouldn't make this ending very good.

Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the people who think this chapter was great support for NaruSaku. I only think that, though, under the assumption that the girlfriend line was a joke. I do hope that we're still on the journey to NaruSaku, that this indeed wasn't the destination.

No offense, but I think you're being a little pessimistic about this. I doubt "this is it." I have faith that this is just the beginning to the end because we still have the Naruto vs Sasuke fight and no doubt Sakura will play a role. You never know. We all joked this would happen, but never expected it actually would. (Some even denied it completely saying that it would be stupid.) Now look at it? I have no doubt there will be a huge romantic scene in the end and maybe even a point where it looks like Naruto died and Sakura goes running to him. It would follow indefinitely with 573 and truly show what she means.

I know people say this scene follows 573, but to really drive it in home, you have to put her in a situation where she has to make a hard choice and chooses Naruto above it. Like both me and Narusaku4life3g has sad, this is the road to how it becomes canon and that means even showing how much they truly care beyond measure.

Don't worry so much, okay? I know we have a habit to play on possibilities, but we should have at least a little faith that things may go the way we expect it to go. This chapter is proof that Kishi is not above doing it, even though I still think he is a huge tease at times to the point of frustration.

[Akashi]

Hm... I might be thinking of "canon" as different than others are. I'm thinking of NaruSaku being canon meaning that they're 100% together now, at this exact moment.

And yes, that is one thing I agree that the girlfriend comment did do. It did show that Naruto is still interested in Sakura.


That's what I'm hoping for. If there's more resolution for the pairing coming up, if there's more left to tell, then the pairing isn't 100% done yet, and this scene was utilized effectively by Kishimoto and didn't overshoot its bounds into naming NaruSaku canon. Or, well, canon in the sense that I'm thinking of (a.k.a. they're together at this exact moment, no question about it).

For me NS is like 99% now. It will be 100% when it's written/drawn black on white that NS happened/they're together/kissed/etc.. We still need to deal with SS, but I don't think it's much of a threat.

And yes, I agree with James. If Kishi pulled something similar to RtN this chapter then why the hell not pull an Uniqlo OVA?

Edited by Tauriel, 23 May 2013 - 07:42 PM.

[CloudMountainJuror]

No offense, but I think you're being a little pessimistic about this. I doubt "this is it." I have faith that this is just the beginning to the end because we still have the Naruto vs Sasuke fight and no doubt Sakura will play a role. You never know. We all joked this would happen, but never expected it actually would. (Some even denied it completely saying that it would be stupid.) Now look at it? I have no doubt there will be a huge romantic scene in the end and maybe even a point where it looks like Naruto died and Sakura goes running to him. It would follow indefinitely with 573 and truly show what she means.

I know people say this scene follows 573, but to really drive it in home, you have to put her in a situation where she has to make a hard choice and chooses Naruto above it. Like both me and Narusaku4life3g has sad, this is the road to how it becomes canon and that means even showing how much they truly care beyond measure.

Don't worry so much, okay? I know we have a habit to play on possibilities, but we should have at least a little faith that things may go the way we expect it to go. This chapter is proof that Kishi is not above doing it, even though I still think he is a huge tease at times to the point of frustration.

I think I messed up at expressing what I was trying to say with the last few posts I made. I'm not as pessimistic about this scene as I might have sounded. What I was saying about the scene was only from me saying "ok, so if the girlfriend comment was supposed to be taken seriously, then this is how I feel about that". That isn't what I hope the scene was, though, because to think that it was would be really damaging to the pairing. I do thonk that this is still the journey to the end, that NaruSaku isn't canon yet. I was just trying to say how interpreting this scene as canon-izing NaruSaku would not be good for the story or the pairing.

EDIT: I keep coming back to edit this post to try and express what I mean to say, so that's why it keeps on changing. It's kinda hard to explain for some reason.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 23 May 2013 - 08:10 PM.

[六道仙人]

I know that I said to stop to talk about them but....

I heard that Sakura rejected him in front of Minato....

[Zatheko]

I know that I said to stop to talk about them but....

I heard that Sakura rejected him in front of Minato....

No she didn't, she acted like a classic tsundere does when they are flustered, by hitting him in the head.

She never actually denied the "girlfriend" comment.

[Akashi]

I know that I said to stop to talk about them but....

I heard that Sakura rejected him in front of Minato....

Then why did Minato told her to take care of his son?
I feel sorry for those ppl.

[Otaru]

Naruto's reaction isn't too puzzling because of that (even if it is disappointing), but Sakura... Sakura is more level-headed (or she should be, considering the past). And no questioning from her at all, when in the past she was willing to kill Sasuke for the things he did... Sakura's reaction is much more puzzling for me than Naruto's.

I think their last encounter was set especially for this moment we have now.
Sasuke was so evil and crazy.
Even so Naruto still believe in him.
Back then, Sakura decided to HAVE FAITH in both of them.
I think this was the setting of the actual acceptance of Sasuke right now.

I think Sakura, back then, totally change her mind ONLY because of Naruto and what he said.
He gave her confidence again in team 7.