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[kirabook]

Let's make it clear what a rebound really is folks.

A rebound is someone you randomly decide to get with simply because you just broke up with your previous person. JUST broke up. They only go with a rebound person to either make their ex jealous of their new guy and want to make it seem like they didn't need their ex at all and they have guys or girls just waiting to hook up with them.

Someone who goes into a rebound relationship is desperate and anxiety ridden. They aren't thinking straight and they're desperate for attention and love that they can't get from their ex anymore. You don't really care for the new person that much, you just want their attention.

Does Sakura seem like she's anxious and is trying to rush into a relationship with Naruto as soon as possible? When Sasuke left her in Konoha, did she run into Naruto's hospital room and declare her love for him in attempts to get into a relationship with him to feel the gaping 'love hole' in her chest?

No, because Naruto is not a rebound. First and foremost, Naruto is Sakura's closest male best friend. The whole Sasuke retrieval arc set that in stone. Naruto obviously still loves Sakura, but Naruto's promise and continued promise after his failure just further revealed Naruto would do anything for Sakura, and he probably officially because one of the closest people to her heart. -Though the tone is more friendly back then-

So, 3 years pass and guess what guys? Sakura still isn't all over Naruto, trying to get into a desperate relationship for no apparent reason. Know why that is? Because Naruto isn't the rebound guy. She still feels attached to her first love and probably sad about it, but no matter how much people deny it, they always carry the good memories of the person they loved with them for the rest of their life. Even if they did something horrible to them in the end, the good memories are still there to be remembered.

If someone takes the time to fall in love with someone before the relationship even starts, then that's not a rebound. That's falling in love with another person, not a rebound. It's way too late for it to be a rebound now.

So this "rebound" crap is typical NaruHina mess. If anything, Hinata would be the rebound girl if Naruto decided to suddenly love her as they want him to do oh so badly.

Added onto that, Sakura already chose Naruto over Sasuke. She chose to have him hate her forever after she killed Sasuke just to keep him safe. She chose Naruto's LIFE over Sasuke's. I think that says enough already.

Edited by kirabook, 30 May 2012 - 02:39 PM.

[tricksie]

Let's make it clear what a rebound really is folks.

A rebound is someone you randomly decide to get with simply because you just broke up with your previous person. JUST broke up. They only go with a rebound person to either make their ex jealous of their new guy and want to make it seem like they didn't need their ex at all and they have guys or girls just waiting to hook up with them.

Someone who goes into a rebound relationship is desperate and anxiety ridden. They aren't thinking straight and they're desperate for attention and love that they can't get from their ex anymore.

Does Sakura seem like she's anxious and is trying to rush into a relationship with Naruto as soon as possible? When Sasuke left her in Konoha, did she run into Naruto's hospital room and declare her love for him in attempts to get into a relationship with him to feel the gaping 'love hole' in her chest?

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So this "rebound" crap is typical NaruHina mess. If anything, Hinata would be the rebound girl if Naruto decided to suddenly love her as they want him to do oh so badly.

Added onto that, Sakura already chose Naruto over Sasuke. She chose to have him hate her forever after she killed Sasuke just to keep him safe. She chose Naruto's LIFE over Sasuke's. I think that says enough already.

lol - great point about the rebound! Especially the bolded!

And as for Hinata, she is outwardly going after Naruto. "I want to stand beside you and hold your hand...." There is no other way to interpret that. Well, Sakura is not that person. She is not outwardly gunning for Sasuke. Instead she is quietly, steadily supporting Naruto. But if you base that Sakura is still in love with Sasuke off of some still-hurt feelings about him, then you must think that Hinata as a secret shrine room to Naruto, where she dusts her wedding dress daily. She has made the most overt statements of love in the whole manga (well, next to Naruto's silly "go-on-a-date-with-me" requests on Sakura early on).

[Don-kun]

That rebound argument the OTP use is the biggest nonsense I ever ear. The rebound definition has been explained so many times but they refuse to drop it. Sakura and Sasuke never had a relationship, Sasuke never love Sakura so how in the world someone with be rebound of a girl that never had a relationship with any other guy.

[kidNinja]

lol - great point about the rebound! Especially the bolded!

And as for Hinata, she is outwardly going after Naruto. "I want to stand beside you and hold your hand...." There is no other way to interpret that. Well, Sakura is not that person. She is not outwardly gunning for Sasuke. Instead she is quietly, steadily supporting Naruto. But if you base that Sakura is still in love with Sasuke off of some still-hurt feelings about him, then you must think that Hinata as a secret shrine room to Naruto, where she dusts her wedding dress daily. She has made the most overt statements of love in the whole manga (well, next to Naruto's silly "go-on-a-date-with-me" requests on Sakura early on).

All I know, is somebody is about to get heartbroken

[Nostradamus]

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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

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[Chew]

lol - great point about the rebound! Especially the bolded!

And as for Hinata, she is outwardly going after Naruto. "I want to stand beside you and hold your hand...." There is no other way to interpret that. Well, Sakura is not that person. She is not outwardly gunning for Sasuke. Instead she is quietly, steadily supporting Naruto. But if you base that Sakura is still in love with Sasuke off of some still-hurt feelings about him, then you must think that Hinata as a secret shrine room to Naruto, where she dusts her wedding dress daily. She has made the most overt statements of love in the whole manga (well, next to Naruto's silly "go-on-a-date-with-me" requests on Sakura early on).

BAHAHAHA Tricksie, that has me laughing so hard. A funny statement indeed.

I don't think Naruto's a rebound. Do others? Yea. Unfortunately, some people don't see the same N/S development that we do. Of course, we wear shipping goggles, and yes some of our opinions on things will be biased. But even if you ask neutral fans that don't really ship any pairings- they mostly say the same thing. They say that they see the development, and that it's pretty obvious that N/S will happen. Why? Because it's not only logical and developed- it's what the hero wants. Naruto loves Sakura. And many people forget that. Many people forget that Naruto's the main hero of the story- so shouldn't he, you know, get the girl in the end? After all, in Part II, the development has been really on Sakura's side. Part I I feel was about Naruto's feelings, and Sakura becoming mildly aware of them. Part II, I feel, is about her becoming aware of how strong those feelings are, not just on Naruto's end, but on her end as well. A lot of people claim Yamato's speech in 297 is inconclusive and therefore null when it comes to talking about Sakura's feelings. But why say something like "It's the strength of your feelings that count; I can tell just by looking at you that you-" and then have it cut off if it were only going to be platonic? Why build that tension without purpose? I don't think Kishi would do anything of the sort. Okay, I sort of went off on a tangent, and will now conclude this post.

Bottom Line: I don't think Kishi would have his main hero end up a rebound or alone

[Dalton.T.R]

All I know, is somebody is about to get heartbroken

Lawls! I'm just ready to see what nonsense the NH/SS fandoms throw at us. It'll be time for major LAWLS!

And I swear to God if someone tells me "No bashing" I'm gonna lose it! It's kind of a stupid rule to begine with. Haters gonna hate.

[Anguyen92]

Lawls! I'm just ready to see what nonsense the NH/SS fandoms throw at us. It'll be time for major LAWLS!

And I swear to God if someone tells me "No bashing" I'm gonna lose it! It's kind of a stupid rule to begine with. Haters gonna hate.

Its not much of a stupid rule as we can go ahead and put the opposition over with really burying them, and still bring out the fact that our side is still going to be ending up on top.

For example, I think that Nh probably have some merits to being a canon pairing if Kishi manage to have the heart and the commitment for making it a credible pairing, but he didn't and that's just too bad about it. It feels like its going to go NS, but then again since this is something out of our hands, so whatever happens is just to going to happen. We just got to be ready for when that time comes for when Kishi is ready to really solidify on the main canon pairing.

Edited by Anguyen92, 30 May 2012 - 05:01 PM.

[Dalton.T.R]

Its not much of a stupid rule as we can go ahead and put the opposition over with really burying them, and still bring out the fact that our side is still going to be ending up on top.

For example, I think that Nh probably have some merits to being a canon pairing if Kishi manage have the heart and the commitment for making it a credible pairing, but he didn't and that's just too bad about it. It feels like its going to go NS, but then again since this is something out of our hands, so whatever happens is just to going to happen. We just got to be ready for when that time comes for when Kishi is ready to really solidify on the main canon pairing.

Eh...the only development I see in NH is the confession and the chunin exams.

EDIT: But I guess it could have a chance. But everything is just going for Hinata. I just don't see NH happening because I have a very strong feeling she's about to die (won't bother me any) She's getting pretty full of herself, and she's getting cocky. If a character gets cocky they usually die.

Edited by Dalton (I stink at names), 30 May 2012 - 05:05 PM.

[Gravenimage]

Lawls! I'm just ready to see what nonsense the NH/SS fandoms throw at us. It'll be time for major LAWLS!

And I swear to God if someone tells me "No bashing" I'm gonna lose it! It's kind of a stupid rule to begine with. Haters gonna hate.

Rules are rules. You obey them and follow them otherwise you won't be in this forum for long. The last member who didn't follow them was kick out of this forum rather quickly and it was because he insulted a fellow member not for pairing bashing ( I won't say who is this person since most of you must know already).

[kidNinja]

Lawls! I'm just ready to see what nonsense the NH/SS fandoms throw at us. It'll be time for major LAWLS!

And I swear to God if someone tells me "No bashing" I'm gonna lose it! It's kind of a stupid rule to begine with. Haters gonna hate.

Here are some examples...

"Naruto and Sakura didn't really kiss! That was just Tobi's genjutsu!"

"NaruSaku only happened because Kishi's editors made him do it."

I can keep going with this....

[Don-kun]

I do not know him.

[Paptala]

this is why, there is only 50% of NS happening because Sakura is still clinging onto those feelings she harbors for Sasuke. Those feelings are a hindrance and it will derail any chance of her getting over Sasuke.
But it has been proven that Sakura has developed "unclear" affection over the course of the manga. Their are two sides to it: she either loves Naruto like a sibling or romantically.

Now the question is which one? There is only one evidence that points to Sakura reaction about women romantically has love issues with him. The evidence points to Sakura in a firm of antipathy towards Hinata's declaration of love for Naruto. However and sadly, Sakura still treats Naruto as second best. If she can't have Sasuke, Naruto is her rebound man.

That's not even close to what I was suggesting. There's no point in ignoring the manga, regardless of whether we like it. Sakura still had romantic feelings for Sasuke as of 540. However, you need to keep in mind several things:

1. The readers were just informed last arc that Sakura still has romantic feelings for Sasuke. Bearing that, there was absolutely no reason for Kishi to throw in that random reminder of Sakura's feelings in the middle of a war, when there is other war related plot going on at the same spot just to tell us what we already knew from last arc. Therefore, this is something different than just a simple reminder that Sakura loves Sasuke, looking at the scene in a literary sense.
2. The readers are shown something different from the summit arc - Sakura's mental image of Sasuke went from his 12 year old self who was apathetic but told her thank you, to a 16 year old malevolent Sasuke
; the scene was meant to show us that Sakura's last encounter with Sasuke did effect her view of him, and not in a positive way.
3. Thus far, Kishi has been consistent in that no character's feelings are going to change off panel - as we assumed was the case with Sakura and her feelings for Sasuke, and how many other fans assume Naruto's feelings have for Sakura.

The logical conclusion is that that panel was the first step in Sakura beginning to reanalyzing her feelings for Sasuke and getting over and unequivocally dropping whatever lingering romantic feelings she has for Sasuke. After that has been accomplished, Kishi can then clearly address the build up he has put in place for Sakura's feelings for Naruto.

Others have addressed this, but Naruto will not be, in any shape or form, her rebound. She was never in a relationship with Sasuke. She stopped treating Naruto "second best" a long time ago, even when her feelings for Sasuke were more prominent. In part two, Sakura has very clearly placed Naruto's priority over Sasuke's on multiple occasions (the summit being the most prominent example, as was her being willing to quit the chum in exams without regard to Sasuke in order to preserve Naruto's dream).

[Dalton.T.R]

Here are some examples...

"Naruto and Sakura didn't really kiss! That was just Tobi's genjutsu!"

"NaruSaku only happened because Kishi's editors made him do it."

I can keep going with this....

My reaction: LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[Anguyen92]

You know what would be really nice to happen later in the series? It would be really really nice if Naruto and Sakura was in a fight side-by-side of each other and only each other, because it feels like it worked out so well. I mean back in the beginning of part two, everybody that was there (Tsunade, Jiraya, Shizune I think?) for the Naruto/Sakura vs Kakashi fight acknowledged that they worked really well with each other. I just don't get why Kishi did not take more chances with that dynamic.

Edited by Anguyen92, 30 May 2012 - 08:48 PM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

One would think that someone who constantly puts you down, ignores you, slaps apples out of your hands after trying to feed them, ignore your love confession, almost run a sword through you, attempts to shoot lightning through your back and tries to cut your throat will be enough reason for you to stop loving them.


Nonetheless, it seems that Sakura's choice of Naruto over a redeemed Sasuke would be the only way it could go without making it look like Sakura chose Naruto because of an absent Sasuke.

I don't know which character your first character was suffering to in your first paragraph. But I do agree with the one bellow. The way Kishi is progressing the manga. NS will be portray more like Jiraiya and Tsunade than Minato and Kushina. Although, her problem is that she is trapped between the two boys she loves. She has mental demons that needs to be disposed. If she wants to follow her fantasies (Sasuke), she needs to apologize to Naruto for using his feelings, even though, it was for good reason and till him to find love some place else, because her heart belongs to Sasuke. Or, she follows what's in front of her (Naruto). All she has to do is wake up and smell the coffee. Sasuke is all just an illusion of her fantasies, and naruto is not. The sooner she realizes this, the better, and i hate Kishi for using Hinata's (going to hold Naruto's hand after the war) character to add a little steam of drama.

I have to disagree on the whole rebound thing, it annoys me when people say that Naruto is Sakura's" silver medal" because there's no such thing as a silver medal. If that's the case then I guess people are forbidden to move on from your first love and fall in love again with someone else who will be even be better than your first. Where does it say that people can't fall in love again? That they have continued loving their first love? Or are they destine to think of a relationship that's impossible or out of reach even fixing because both we're completely different people and it wasn't going to work. Sakura has already chosen who she loves, who she wants to protect from Sasuke none the less. I still highly believe she move on from Sasuke but we're assuming that she might still held feelings for him, and the only evidence we have is her thinking of of an evil Sasuke with flames on the background from a panel (that's enough proof ). I will think differently if the image was of a smiling twelve year old Sasuke but that's not the case. Sakura hasn't said anything of still loving Sasuke, she said in 470 that she doesn't love him anymore, however not caring for him is a different story. She hasn't stop caring for him as a friend, and former teammate as the boy who used to be her crush. She is conflicted because of her bond to him just like Naruto and it's not easy to severe those bonds, even Sasuke himself is having problems with that.

But I will believe her words from 459 as the ultimate truth to her character. She doesn't want to make another mistake, then she said she doesn't love Sasuke anymore, but she lied in saying that she didn't care for him anymore (loving-caring). And then her words to Naruto from 469 how she feels for him (reminding again she doesn't want to make another mistake). Followed by Kishi's words that he thought he was making an honest girl surprisingly stubborn. I highly believe she doesn't love Sasuke anymore because through her actions we see who is the person most important to her. Can Kishi make it anymore obvious who Sakura truly loves? In this upcoming movie he might give the most obvious hint (even after all the hints and parallels he has given in his manga).

All good, but first of all, but I never said anything about being forbidden to fall in love again. And the problem that I noticed some people, here, are having is that they neglect to believe Sakura still harbors romantic feelings for Sasuke. Wrong already. Just like in the previous thread, someone was skeptical about Sakura being romantically in love with Naruto from chapter 3 and up People are having too many high hopes that NS will happen in the end. Look at this arc in the manga. Why does Sasuke and Itachi looked like they were in Part 2 of the manga, when they went hunting for a wild boar? Why did Kishi decided to reveal Kabuto's past now, when it could have been done somewhere in Part 1? The answer is that Kishi has an uncanny, liking to cram and twist in last minute developments. And if he's going to decide the pairings to be NH and SS in the end, is going to cram in another bogus off screen panel explaining something occur between them after the Pain Invasion Arc that was omitted from the manga and anime. Something like that, because that is whom he is. Sometimes, I wondered, what goes on within that thick skull of his.

That's not even close to what I was suggesting. There's no point in ignoring the manga, regardless of whether we like it. Sakura still had romantic feelings for Sasuke as of 540. However, you need to keep in mind several things:

1. The readers were just informed last arc that Sakura still has romantic feelings for Sasuke. Bearing that, there was absolutely no reason for Kishi to throw in that random reminder of Sakura's feelings in the middle of a war, when there is other war related plot going on at the same spot just to tell us what we already knew from last arc. Therefore, this is something different than just a simple reminder that Sakura loves Sasuke, looking at the scene in a literary sense.
2. The readers are shown something different from the summit arc - Sakura's mental image of Sasuke went from his 12 year old self who was apathetic but told her thank you, to a 16 year old malevolent Sasuke
; the scene was meant to show us that Sakura's last encounter with Sasuke did effect her view of him, and not in a positive way.
3. Thus far, Kishi has been consistent in that no character's feelings are going to change off panel - as we assumed was the case with Sakura and her feelings for Sasuke, and how many other fans assume Naruto's feelings have for Sakura.

The logical conclusion is that that panel was the first step in Sakura beginning to reanalyzing her feelings for Sasuke and getting over and unequivocally dropping whatever lingering romantic feelings she has for Sasuke. After that has been accomplished, Kishi can then clearly address the build up he has put in place for Sakura's feelings for Naruto.

Others have addressed this, but Naruto will not be, in any shape or form, her rebound. She was never in a relationship with Sasuke. She stopped treating Naruto "second best" a long time ago, even when her feelings for Sasuke were more prominent. In part two, Sakura has very clearly placed Naruto's priority over Sasuke's on multiple occasions (the summit being the most prominent example, as was her being willing to quit the chum in exams without regard to Sasuke in order to preserve Naruto's dream).

Woo woo wooo!I never said she does not have any romantic feelings for Sasuke. You've mistaken for somebody else. As for Naruto being Sakura's second best, the manga is heading in that direction. Don't get me wrong. It took Tsunade to realize she had something for Jiraiya after she was in a relationship with Dan. What's stopping Kishi for doing the same with Sakura's character?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Woo woo wooo!I never said she does not have any romantic feelings for Sasuke. You've mistaken for somebody else. As for Naruto being Sakura's second best, the manga is heading in that direction. Don't get me wrong. It took Tsunade to realize she had something for Jiraiya after she was in a relationship with Dan. What's stopping Kishi for doing the same with Sakura's character?

But Dan was dead, tsunade only recognized her feelings after 50 years or more....
i dont want kishi to do the same with sakura

if sasuke get redeemed i want her to choose naruto, because sasuke did nothing to deserve sakura's love and devotion...

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

But Dan was dead, tsunade only recognized her feelings after 50 years or more....
i dont want kishi to do the same with sakura

if sasuke get redeemed i want her to choose naruto, because sasuke did nothing to deserve sakura's love and devotion...

I'm sure every soul, including myself want that to happen.

But even if she follows in Tsunade's foot steps (being called a Tsunade clone). It comes down to Sasuke's decision, and tell you what. There's a good chance a redeem Sasuke will reject Sakura nicely in the end. There a chance he might give Karin a shot, because he was shock that Karin is an Uzumaki. Marrying an Uzumaki will benefit the Uchiha Clan, and it legally ties the knot of Naruto being related to him. That's what I hopping for, and it ain't going to be easy, because she is out to kill him.

[Don-kun]

I'm sure every soul, including myself want that to happen.

But even if she follows in Tsunade's foot steps (being called a Tsunade clone). It comes down to Sasuke's decision, and tell you what. There's a good chance a redeem Sasuke will reject Sakura nicely in the end. There a chance he might give Karin a shot, because he was shock that Karin is an Uzumaki. Marrying an Uzumaki will benefit the Uchiha Clan, and it legally ties the knot of Naruto being related to him. That's what I hopping for, and it ain't going to be easy, because she is out to kill him.

Can you elaborate that part about Sakura being a Tsunade clone could lead to SS in what way lol? Dan loved Tsunade as far I know, he never hurt her feelings or even try to kill Tsunade, can you enlighten me plz. Is there something I'm missing here?

You also say something about flashback, that I really cannot agree with, maybe NH flashback would work, but SS hell no Sasuke try to kill Sakura without any hesitation 3 times he treated her like trash, you will never do that to someone you truly love.
Sakura only needs to tell Naruto that she truly miss him, she doesn't want to see him get hurt he kills her inside, he means a lot to her, hugging then kiss him and NS is resolve. Can you Honestly do that with NH or SS.

Also the bolded part are things we already know about Sakura>>>Naruto.