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[TouKen4Life3g]

Someone should really slap before his ego gets the best of him.

Too late on that. But yeah, I want Naruto to beat the crap out of him. Lol.

[BlueStarSaber]

Too late on that. But yeah, I want Naruto to beat the crap out of him. Lol.

Can't both Naruto and Sakura do it?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Can't both Naruto and Sakura do it?

Sure, but I was more referring to Naruto vs. Sasuke when the time comes.

[BlueStarSaber]

Sure, but I was more referring to Naruto vs. Sasuke when the time comes.

I am also referring to that fight cause I want to see her take part of it somehow.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I am also referring to that fight cause I want to see her take part of it somehow.

I would hope for a pre-fight edition as in one time only moment before it becomes a single. Not on a same day but something like what happened to the original Sannin. Like say Sasuke does betray here, while everyone is at low state, it wouldn't hurt to have Naruto and Sakura to fight Sasuke for a short while before he leaves with a final message to Naruto. Well, something like that. I wouldn't mind that. But anyway, war is still going though drawing near end.

[BlueStarSaber]

I would hope for a pre-fight edition as in one time only moment before it becomes a single. Not on a same day but something like what happened to the original Sannin. Like say Sasuke does betray here, while everyone is at low state, it wouldn't hurt to have Naruto and Sakura to fight Sasuke for a short while before he leaves with a final message to Naruto. Well, something like that. I wouldn't mind that. But anyway, war is still going though drawing near end.

I see well ethier way a team 7 deadlock match will be fun to read/watch

[Shadow1275]

 

I really don't see that happening.  I have always seen Sasuke's "I'm going to restore my clan," as meaning redeem their honor, not have a bunch of babies (as some people look at it) and certainly not reviving them all. Would it even be possible to resurrect such a large group of people after so many years? But regardless whether it is possible or not, I am far from keen on the idea. I despise rinne tensei, almost as much as edo tensei, so the less it's used as a cheap cure-all, the better.

That may be true, but were the Uchiha truly dishonored? They were supposedly relegated to the police force, but then we have ninja like Itachi, Obito, and to a lesser extent bc of his dead clan Sasuke who all became ninja and even part of the Anbu Black Ops. To the younger kids and most Jonin the Uchiha were considered powerful ninja who possessed incredible strength with fire jutsu and their Sharingan. A lot like the Hyuga, in that respect. Only the elders really knew what was going on behind the scenes.

 

 

 

The way she nearly futiley sacrifices herself, leading to Naruto's near suicide?

The fact that she "loves" him, stalks him, sees the abuses he goes through but makes no effort to become his friend?

The fact that her "love" for Naruto is based on what she can get out of it and the fact that she has shown very little concern with regards to what she can give/do for Naruto?

 

I could go on and on and on, but essentially I don't get it based on that perspective at all.  She's not a horrible person, she's well-meaning, but the "positive" attributes of her "love" for Naruto are immensely over-estimated/over-exaggerated.

 

While there's truth to what you say, a lot of it is also based on opinion. To play devil's advocate...

 

-If Hinata had never sacrificed herself then Naruto would not have gone 8 tails and weakened Pain. He was clearly pinned down and could not move. Seeing Hinata get struck down caused him to lose control. Not bc of any romantic "Feelings" mind you, but bc he saw a friend cut down. Naruto transforms based on his emotions and he went 8 tails in reaction to Hinata getting cut down.

 

-Stalks yes and no. They tend to run into each other by accident or for a reason. For example when Naruto goes looking for replacement team members he runs into her because team Kurenai was meeting. Then of course when Naruto leaves to train with Jiraiya that was probably stalking., loves him... debatable, tries to become his friend= She has tried to be nice to him on several occasions such as giving him medicine and wishes him luck before he fights Neji. I think that's a fair effort to be friendly. Of course she never tries to get to know him but so doesn't Sakura. The problem with Naruto is he'll usually tell you what he likes, and his hopes and dreams before you get a chance to ask.

 

-I'd say that she has shown great concern in terms of supporting him. You can't say that she doesn't care about who he loves bc she doesn't know that he loves Sakura. The other thing is that Kishi hasn't really shown her reacting at all. Now when she said that she would "Never let go of his hand" at the end, that could be interpreted as simply being friends, or even being able to support him in battle. Not too mention that it was also an editors note. My guess is based on the way her counterpart acted in RTN, she actually wouldn't act all jealous and possessive should Naruto and Sakura get together. Don't forget that RTN was made by Kishi himself. In fact, one might argue that she doesn't actually have romantic feelings for him because of that character.

 

Of course everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

Edited by Shadow1275, 31 October 2013 - 02:15 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I see well ethier way a team 7 deadlock match will be fun to read/watch

Indeed. Well, I just posted stuff on tumblr. I am debating on posting something...unsafe.

[Tokura Misaki]

Not bashing here, alright?

 

I always lurk on a NaruSaku/NarHin/SasSak debate thread on NF. Then I saw NarHin brought up a "splitting hairs-girl/friend" argument again. I just.........    

Edited by sakutonaru, 31 October 2013 - 02:32 AM.

[rocci]

Of course they need to downgrade naruto feeling, what make NS happen is naruto love sakura and yes not (yet) love naruto. And it doesn't help since they demand naruto say "I LOVE YOU, SAKURA".

Maybe naruto should kiss sakura.

[morgaine4]

While there's truth to what you say, a lot of it is also based on opinion. To play devil's advocate...

 

-If Hinata had never sacrificed herself then Naruto would not have gone 8 tails and weakened Pain. He was clearly pinned down and could not move. Seeing Hinata get struck down caused him to lose control. Not bc of any romantic "Feelings" mind you, but bc he saw a friend cut down. Naruto transforms based on his emotions and he went 8 tails in reaction to Hinata getting cut down.

 

-Stalks yes and no. They tend to run into each other by accident or for a reason. For example when Naruto goes looking for replacement team members he runs into her because team Kurenai was meeting. Then of course when Naruto leaves to train with Jiraiya that was probably stalking., loves him... debatable, tries to become his friend= She has tried to be nice to him on several occasions such as giving him medicine and wishes him luck before he fights Neji. I think that's a fair effort to be friendly. Of course she never tries to get to know him but so doesn't Sakura. The problem with Naruto is he'll usually tell you what he likes, and his hopes and dreams before you get a chance to ask.

 

-I'd say that she has shown great concern in terms of supporting him. You can't say that she doesn't care about who he loves bc she doesn't know that he loves Sakura. The other thing is that Kishi hasn't really shown her reacting at all. Now when she said that she would "Never let go of his hand" at the end, that could be interpreted as simply being friends, or even being able to support him in battle. Not too mention that it was also an editors note. My guess is based on the way her counterpart acted in RTN, she actually wouldn't act all jealous and possessive should Naruto and Sakura get together. Don't forget that RTN was made by Kishi himself. In fact, one might argue that she doesn't actually have romantic feelings for him because of that character.

 

Of course everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

 

Playing Devil's Advocate is fun (though I don't think NH and Hinata need people playing DA, the pairing and the character are so adored)!  =)  And I agree a lot of it is due to opinion, I'm extremely anti-NH (way more than I am pro-NS) and I'm not fond of Hinata (though I'm  not anti-Hinata either) so my perspective tends to be heavily anti-NH.

 

There were positive outcomes from her futile sacrifice, as you pointed out Naruto's transformation helped weaken TP, and it also resulted in Naruto meeting his father.  But she didn't know that that would happen, so she shouldn't receive credit for these outcomes --it's illogical to credit her.  I mean one could easily argue that Hinata's actions could have caused Naruto to further annihilate Konoha, and could have resulted in Naruto deciding to commit suicide.  Hinata should thank PnJ that Minato had sealed his chakra into Naruto, because if not for that Naruto would be dead (and I'm not saying she should be blamed for that, just that that is the counterargument to giving her "credit").  Rather, we should analyze what she should have known and how she acted.  I'm not entirely convinced that her goal was to save Naruto, because if it was it illustrates an extreme level of incompetence on her part, and extreme over estimation of her abilities.  Am I supposed to believe that Hinata actually thought that she could face Tendo Pain head on and alone and win?  Because I don't want to believe that, I don't want to believe that Hinata lacks self-awareness so much that she over-estimate her abilities to that degree.  So if she knew she had no chance, then why did she do what she did?  What was her goal?  I can't say for sure, but it seems to me that her goal was to confess, was to die having confessed, was for Naruto to die knowing that someone loves him to that extent.  (And, I'm not a biased hypocrite --at least not in this case-- I have the same reaction when Sakura fans try to credit her with Gaara's resurrection.  Sakura deserves all the credit in the world for her willingness to sacrifice herself for Chiyo, and in certain discussions it's appropriate to bring up the fact that her actions lead directly to Gaara's resurrection, but since she did not know what jutsu Chiyo had up her sleeve, she doesn't deserve credit for Gaara's ressurection --only Chiyo does.  Though, it would make sense for the Sand Siblings to credit Sakura.)

 

Sakura didn't make the effort to get to know him, she got to know him through her exposure to him, but let's not forget that Naruto and Sakura have been shown to hang out outside of work AND that Sakura isn't pursuing Naruto, Sakura isn't the person interested in Naruto --it's the other way around and we have seen Naruto's attempts to get to know her better/hang out with her.  My opposition is to the notion that Hinata, and Hinata's love, has benefited Naruto in some great way when it has not.  She was a bystander (someone who was aware of the bullying Naruto went through, but did absolutely nothing to help --she didn't even ask a bodyguard to help Naruto), yet she gets credit for recognizing that Naruto was being mistreated?  I understand not blaming her for befriending Naruto, she was young after all, but I can't agree with the tendency to give her credit that she does not deserve.  That's all that I'm saying.  And, since you brought up Sakura in comparison, even during her worst Sasuke-obsessed fangirl days she illustrated that she was willing to put Naruto and Naruto's dream first --willing to protect him.  We often talk about her willingness to withdraw from the Chuunin exam because she didn't want Naruto's dream crushed, but what I feel is often ignored is that she was willing to allow Sasuke to fail in order to protect Naruto's dream --and that was in part 1, before Sasuke defected, and before she knew about the darkness within Sasuke's soul.  So while Sakura didn't make an effort to get to know Naruto better, unlike Hinata Sakura was willing to postpone her promotion as well as Sasuke's promotion for Naruto's sake.

 

I don't think Hinata needs to care about who Naruto loves.  Personally I do think that Hinata's love is spiritual in nature and not romantic (IMO she loves his nindo), but Hinata is 16, Naruto isn't in a relationship --yeah Naruto showed incredible amounts of maturity because he does care about who Sakura loves and wants to put Sakura and her happiness above his own-- but that's an exception to the rule, at all ages, I'm not sure that Hinata should be expected to do the same at this time.

[Shadow1275]

 

Playing Devil's Advocate is fun (though I don't think NH and Hinata need people playing DA, the pairing and the character are so adored)!  =)  And I agree a lot of it is due to opinion, I'm extremely anti-NH (way more than I am pro-NS) and I'm not fond of Hinata (though I'm  not anti-Hinata either) so my perspective tends to be heavily anti-NH.

 

There were positive outcomes from her futile sacrifice, as you pointed out Naruto's transformation helped weaken TP, and it also resulted in Naruto meeting his father.  But she didn't know that that would happen, so she shouldn't receive credit for these outcomes --it's illogical to credit her.  I mean one could easily argue that Hinata's actions could have caused Naruto to further annihilate Konoha, and could have resulted in Naruto deciding to commit suicide.  Hinata should thank PnJ that Minato had sealed his chakra into Naruto, because if not for that Naruto would be dead (and I'm not saying she should be blamed for that, just that that is the counterargument to giving her "credit").  Rather, we should analyze what she should have known and how she acted.  I'm not entirely convinced that her goal was to save Naruto, because if it was it illustrates an extreme level of incompetence on her part, and extreme over estimation of her abilities.  Am I supposed to believe that Hinata actually thought that she could face Tendo Pain head on and alone and win?  Because I don't want to believe that, I don't want to believe that Hinata lacks self-awareness so much that she over-estimate her abilities to that degree.  So if she knew she had no chance, then why did she do what she did?  What was her goal?  I can't say for sure, but it seems to me that her goal was to confess, was to die having confessed, was for Naruto to die knowing that someone loves him to that extent.  (And, I'm not a biased hypocrite --at least not in this case-- I have the same reaction when Sakura fans try to credit her with Gaara's resurrection.  Sakura deserves all the credit in the world for her willingness to sacrifice herself for Chiyo, and in certain discussions it's appropriate to bring up the fact that her actions lead directly to Gaara's resurrection, but since she did not know what jutsu Chiyo had up her sleeve, she doesn't deserve credit for Gaara's ressurection --only Chiyo does.  Though, it would make sense for the Sand Siblings to credit Sakura.)

 

Sakura didn't make the effort to get to know him, she got to know him through her exposure to him, but let's not forget that Naruto and Sakura have been shown to hang out outside of work AND that Sakura isn't pursuing Naruto, Sakura isn't the person interested in Naruto --it's the other way around and we have seen Naruto's attempts to get to know her better/hang out with her.  My opposition is to the notion that Hinata, and Hinata's love, has benefited Naruto in some great way when it has not.  She was a bystander (someone who was aware of the bullying Naruto went through, but did absolutely nothing to help --she didn't even ask a bodyguard to help Naruto), yet she gets credit for recognizing that Naruto was being mistreated?  I understand not blaming her for befriending Naruto, she was young after all, but I can't agree with the tendency to give her credit that she does not deserve.  That's all that I'm saying.  And, since you brought up Sakura in comparison, even during her worst Sasuke-obsessed fangirl days she illustrated that she was willing to put Naruto and Naruto's dream first --willing to protect him.  We often talk about her willingness to withdraw from the Chuunin exam because she didn't want Naruto's dream crushed, but what I feel is often ignored is that she was willing to allow Sasuke to fail in order to protect Naruto's dream --and that was in part 1, before Sasuke defected, and before she knew about the darkness within Sasuke's soul.  So while Sakura didn't make an effort to get to know Naruto better, unlike Hinata Sakura was willing to postpone her promotion as well as Sasuke's promotion for Naruto's sake.

 

I don't think Hinata needs to care about who Naruto loves.  Personally I do think that Hinata's love is spiritual in nature and not romantic (IMO she loves his nindo), but Hinata is 16, Naruto isn't in a relationship --yeah Naruto showed incredible amounts of maturity because he does care about who Sakura loves and wants to put Sakura and her happiness above his own-- but that's an exception to the rule, at all ages, I'm not sure that Hinata should be expected to do the same at this time.

You bring up a lot of good points, and trust me I don't usually play devil's advocate for NH. And I'll never do it for SS.

 

Does Hinata deserve credit for weakening Pain, for Naruto meeting his father, and for awakening the Ninetales.... that's a tough call. To be honest it's pretty clear that she wasn't thinking at all when she ran in, which she admitted when she said "I was being Selfish" It's an interesting line though, bc was she saying that she was doing it despite the fact that Naruto requested everyone to stay away. It's obvious that Sakura wanted to help him but she respects and trusts Naruto. Or is it bc Hinata who has feelings for Naruto, decided that she couldn't bare losing him and jumped into the fray bc she was afraid of the heartbreak. But I think it mainly states that she wasn't thinking about her abilities or Pain's power, just Naruto. As much as I wanted Sakura to be the one to jump in [and hopefully survive] It didn't happen. But going back to the credit thing, as much as I want deny Hinata credit for those mentioned things, I think that she does get credit for awakening 8 tails.

 

Though the problem with this speculation is we'll never know how things could have turned out. For example, let's say that Minato doesn't store his chakra to stop the seal. Konoha's doomed right? But what about Yamato and his sealing power? As powerful as the Kyubi is, he was able to seal it in its 4 tailed form and I believe, [though I'm a little shaky on the mastering the Kyubi arc] that Yamato was used as a back-up measure to hold back the Kyubi. Naruto had to release the seal in order to take on 9 tails.

 

Lol As for Sakura you won't find too much argument there, but are you sure that Sakura didn't know about Chiyo's jutsu?

 

http://www.mangapand...hapter-275.html

 

http://www.mangapand...hapter-278.html

 

http://www.mangapand...hapter-279.html

 

As for Gaara's Resurrection, though Chiyo was the one who performed the jutsu, the reason why she did it was bc of how Naruto and especially Sakura changed her. At first she was an old bitter woman who wanted no part of the world. She trusted no one and hated the Leaf ninja especially Tsunade. However, during the battle with Sasori Chiyo gave her life to save Sakura. Though she didn't have to bc Sakura wasn't dead, she then proceeded to give her life for Gaara, and to uphold the bright future that Sakura and Naruto had shown her. Compare her to the old witch she was before, where she specifically says "This is your problem not ours, you deal with it." And it's easy to see that she probably wouldn't have given her life or even cared about Gaara.

 

As for Sakura you're preaching to the choir when it comes to her and Naruto.   They have a close bond which in my opinion is much more then simply friends. In fact Naruto deciding to help get Sasuke back for Sakura despite his own feelings was one of the reasons I joined the ship. That and their part 2 interactions. Though I think that there will be a confrontation about it eventually. There's too much money involved in these shipping "wars" to let it pass.

Edited by Shadow1275, 31 October 2013 - 05:45 AM.

[rocci]

There's always the presence of (full) moon, whether there are tragedies involving uchiha.
From battle of Vote, to kakashi gaiden, rin dead, nine tail rampage, uchiha massacre, to now the war arc.

I think it's pretty consistent from kishi.

[morgaine4]

Shadow1275, lol I'm actually more anti-NH than anti-SS.  Haha, I'm weird.

 

I guess I don't feel that characters deserve credit for "positive accidents," just like I don't think characters should be bashed for negative accidents (unless there are very specific circumstances).  Think about it, Naruto nearly committed suicide because Hinata's actions and apparent death affected an emotionally weak Naruto and was the last straw that triggered his transformation, and even though he didn't commit suicide in the end, his lifespan was shortened (remember, the transformation weakens him, injures him, shortens his lifespan).

 

When I was reading that chapter, I'd hoped that Naruto would be saved by others, but I didn't want it to be any one person who jumped it.  I'd hoped that it would be a town effort (for many reasons) that would have been tactically the better choice and I wanted Naruto to see how far the villagers were willing to go for him.  (They were ALL willing to die and willing to risk their village for his sake, I wish he could have seen that then!).

 

Sakura's personality/actions can be credited with changing Chiyo so that she was willing to risk herself to resurrect Gaara, but Sakura can't be "credited" with for sacrificing herself for the sake of Gaara's resurrection because that wasn't her intent and she didn't know of Chiyo's jutsu before she stepped in front of Sasori's blade.  The fact that Chiyo had such a jutsu, a jutsu with which she could prevent Sakura's death and resurrect Gaara was a happy accident.  I guess, it depends on the basis of one's argument.

[Shadow1275]

Shadow1275, lol I'm actually more anti-NH than anti-SS.  Haha, I'm weird.

 

I guess I don't feel that characters deserve credit for "positive accidents," just like I don't think characters should be bashed for negative accidents (unless there are very specific circumstances).  Think about it, Naruto nearly committed suicide because Hinata's actions and apparent death affected an emotionally weak Naruto and was the last straw that triggered his transformation, and even though he didn't commit suicide in the end, his lifespan was shortened (remember, the transformation weakens him, injures him, shortens his lifespan).

 

When I was reading that chapter, I'd hoped that Naruto would be saved by others, but I didn't want it to be any one person who jumped it.  I'd hoped that it would be a town effort (for many reasons) that would have been tactically the better choice and I wanted Naruto to see how far the villagers were willing to go for him.  (They were ALL willing to die and willing to risk their village for his sake, I wish he could have seen that then!).

 

Sakura's personality/actions can be credited with changing Chiyo so that she was willing to risk herself to resurrect Gaara, but Sakura can't be "credited" with for sacrificing herself for the sake of Gaara's resurrection because that wasn't her intent and she didn't know of Chiyo's jutsu before she stepped in front of Sasori's blade.  The fact that Chiyo had such a jutsu, a jutsu with which she could prevent Sakura's death and resurrect Gaara was a happy accident.  I guess, it depends on the basis of one's argument.

Lol, that's not weird, that's just your opinion.

 

Though there are some things that I would like a little more clarification. It's true that his lifespan was shortened, though I don't even think Hinata knew about the 9 tailed fox inside of Naruto at that point. Even Sakura didn't find out about it until part 2 when Naruto told her.

 

Though why would Naruto want to commit suicide? I don't remember that ever being an issue with him. In fact according to his nindo that would be the last thing that he would ever do.

 

It would have been interesting to see Naruto saved by the villagers, but the moment afterwards where he is hailed as a hero is equally touching Imo.

 

Though Sakura didn't know the jutsu, that's not the point when it comes to what saved Gaara. The Jutsu resurrected him, but that Jutsu doesn't work unless two things happen.

 

1. Chiyo decides to care about Gaara and use it

 

2. Chiyo decides that it's worth giving her life over.

 

Even before Sakura risked her life for Chiyo, there was evidence that Chiyo was changing. For example right here when Sakura mentions that she is Chiyo's most hated rival's student and Chiyo actually smiles peacefully.

 

http://www.mangapand...hapter-253.html

 

But of course its Chiyo who makes the decision. Imo Sakura and Naruto have indirect responsibility but that's all perspective.

[morgaine4]

Lol, that's not weird, that's just your opinion.

 

Though there are some things that I would like a little more clarification. It's true that his lifespan was shortened, though I don't even think Hinata knew about the 9 tailed fox inside of Naruto at that point. Even Sakura didn't find out about it until part 2 when Naruto told her.

 

Though why would Naruto want to commit suicide? I don't remember that ever being an issue with him. In fact according to his nindo that would be the last thing that he would ever do.

 

Technically, didn't Sakura find out herself as she did her own investigations?  Silly, silly girl!

 

It's because I'm not sure of how much Hinata knew that I don't think she should be blamed for the potential negative results of her actions.  Like I said, I only bring them up specifically when I feel she's being credited undeservedly.

 

Remember, Naruto nearly broke his seal and released Kurama, that would have killed him!  What is that but near suicide?  Of course many might disagree with me, but personally I think that was near suicide.  (I think it was chapter 439?)

Edited by morgaine4, 31 October 2013 - 07:19 AM.

[咲耶姫]

You know, the reason why I so believe in NS, is because I don’t believe at all in NH and SS. And the reasons why I don’t believe in these couples are simple: lack of development. And when there is a development, it’s most of the time negative or discredits the pairing.

 

Look at NH:

                 1/The positives points in NH development are:

·         Hinata’s fight against Neji tells us why Naruto is her role model, her hero, the man she loves: he gives her strength and makes her want to change to be someone better.

·         The famous “I like people like you” is the first acknowledgment of Naruto towards Hinata as a friend, and here, Hinata encourages him for his future fight by saying he’s strong since he gives her strength for her own fight.

·         Naruto wanted to beat Neji to honor Hinata and all the supposed looser, he even asks immediately if Hinata saw the fight, and all that has nothing to do with love, it’s just about the loser’s pride.

·         Hinata’s confession freed her from this burden.

·         Naruto admits to the great toad in Myuboku that Hinata’s supposed death was what made him lose control in the Pain arc.  

·         Chapter 615: Naruto thanks Hinata (along with Neji) to be by his side to have saved him from given up.  

 

                 2/The negatives points in NH development are:

·         In the chuunin exam, Hinata offers Naruto to cheat; it shows that for someone who’s supposed to be in love, she has no faith in him, and she’ll prove this lack of faith all over the story.

·         During Naruto’s fight against Kiba, she has no faith in him, while Sakura and Kakashi keep smiling knowing what Naruto is strong enough. For someone who stalked him during all her childhood and who’s supposed to admire his determination, she easily lose faith and we can’t deny that she has the same little consideration that the others watchers have.

·         Hinata’s fight against Neji: She says that she has observed him all those years and that it gave her some strength, it also means that she watched him suffer without trying to help him, she just used his determination to improve herself, stated as it is, it seems quiet cruel from her.

·         And again, during Naruto’s fight with Neji, she doesn’t trust him by worrying endlessly.

·         First meeting in part 2: Hinata doesn’t know what to talk about and it stresses her. What would a romantic relationship between them look like? It’s one of the reasons why I hate this pairing, they don’t belong together. Except their nindô and the looser treatment, they have nothing in common. What a relationship needs is common points, in the character and in tastes, while keeping some different traits. That’s the problem; those 2 have only different traits.

·         The Sasuke track was the perfect moment to develop their relationship, but absolutely nothing happened, and worse, we see that she doesn’t know anything about Naruto’s strength, she immediately worries when Naruto is injured, while Sakura perfectly know Naruto needs more to be defeated.

·         The confession: It was a selfish act that almost killed Naruto and almost resurrected Kyuubi. Again, she didn’t trust Naruto who said he didn’t want anyone to interfere. She did it just so she can confess her love to him before dying.

·         In chapter 540: She only thinks about Naruto, not even Bee. To her, this war only serves to protect Naruto; she doesn’t care about the real issues of this war. She protects him just because she “loves” him, not to avoid the Shinobi World’s destruction.

·         Chapter 573: She only cares about herself. While Sakura think about Naruto’s well being, all that matters for Hinata is to be by Naruto’s side. She doesn’t care about all the burdens he cares on his shoulders.

·         In 615, she just reminds him about his nindô, and it’s logic because the only thing they have in common is their nindô and a strong bond with Neji who just died. And while her cousin just died in front of her, to protect her… The only thing she thinks is “Naruto-kun’s hand is so big, so strong… Makes me feel safe”

·         And until then, she doesn’t stop to say “I want to be by Naruto-kun’s side” but Shikamaru already confirms it has a comradeship meaning.

 

And I would also add that in NH, it’s just all about Hinata, about what she wants. And I would go as far as saying she doesn’t have a real bond with Naruto’s character, just with one aspect of his character, his nindô.

 

What I mean is she’s not bonds to the main plot, I know she’s a side character so it’s logical, but if she was meant to be Naruto’s future wife, she should be implied in his Hokage dream, in the Sasuke conflict, and in the troubles Kyuubi caused him. But she has nothing to do with it. Never has she think about his Hokage desire, on the contrary, when Kiba states he also want to be Hokage, she says “Everyone want to be Hokage” like ‘Great so many people want to be Hokage!’, she was never worry about Sasuke departure and she never really tried to help except the Sasuke track. And never has she felt guilty about what Kyuubi caused him.

 

Whereas, Sakura want to help him to be Hokage since the chuunin exam, she’s directly bond to Sasuke, she even promised Naruto that they would bring Sasuke back together. And when they were in the forest with Chiyo, she sadly thought about his Jinchuriki status, she even wanted to know how to extract a demon from his Jinchuriki, so Naruto would be alright.   

 

There is really nothing romantic between them, Hinata is a friend like all the other rookies. 

Edited by 咲耶姫, 31 October 2013 - 08:40 AM.

[Superman333]

@darkrerst . No I dont think it was out of immaturity. He was shocked . The girl he loves actually hugged him . It was more like "oh my God is this actually happening ?"

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I wonder if Sakura would kiss Naruto in front everyone and if all the villagers would smile at the display like they did with the hug? Though at the moment I think their first kiss will be at the bench.

More like it but on a bench

 

 

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@darkrerst . No I dont think it was out of immaturity. He was shocked . The girl he loves actually hugged him . It was more like "oh my God is this actually happening ?"

 

I was refering about Sakura, the way she's defensive when it comes to her feelings on Naruto is like Naruto has something she doesnt like on him which is perhaps his immaturity or stupidity.

I mean when he playing the mature guy on the begining she was literally going to jump on him.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 31 October 2013 - 10:53 AM.

[Psychox]

I was refering about Sakura, the way she's defensive when it comes to her feelings on Naruto is like Naruto has something she doesnt like on him which is perhaps his immaturity or stupidity.

I mean when he playing the mature guy on the begining she was literally going to jump on him.

Hm... could be.. I mean Kushina always though that Minato was girl(y)  ,so she considered him very weak and untalented. Also she didn't understand men in general just like our Sakura :3. So , maybe there is some truth to your words , but after all she has seen in Naruto after the reunion in part 2 between them ,she does show different behaviour .