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[Psychox]

I wonder if Sakura would kiss Naruto in front everyone and if all the villagers would smile at the display like they did with the hug? Though at the moment I think their first kiss will be at the bench.

Oh yeah...

[TouKen4Life3g]

Been a while here, but sadly I am being beaten in gaming by my gf (Pokemon x and y). Sigh. Ahem. So, I decided to take a small break. What's going on in here?

[rocci]

@ns4life
What you're lose to your girlfriend? Hmm, let me guess your girlfriend is a rpg player and you're fps guy. Oh this's your girlfriend right, not the "girl friend"

OT: I want and hope we can show a naruto>>>>sakura moment, and i agree with paptala since in part two almost all NS moment come from sakura

[DattebayoXShannaro]

Ahhh, I have to wait a while until I can get that game.

[BlueStarSaber]

Been a while here, but sadly I am being beaten in gaming by my gf (Pokemon x and y). Sigh. Ahem. So, I decided to take a small break. What's going on in here?

Ouch better luck next time, I need to get x and y but first I need a 3ds. Well for me I just asked whether or not Sakura would kiss Naruto in public, in front of the whole village like with the hug.

[TouKen4Life3g]

@ns4life
What you're lose to your girlfriend? Hmm, let me guess your girlfriend is a rpg player and you're fps guy. Oh this's your girlfriend right, not the "girl friend"

OT: I want and hope we can show a naruto>>>>sakura moment, and i agree with paptala since in part two almost all NS moment come from sakura

Well, she is just a closet gamer, to the point I'm like one of those guy in the couple that is being beaten in something that I'm good at or anything would make me feel discouraged. You know how Naruto was like "Yay, Sakura. She is awesome," but in his mind, he felt annoyed because he just got bested by Sakura. It's not an insult, rather being lost to your love. It's strange but it is a known feeling. No, it's not something you would break out with your love, just one of the funny feeling.

 

I see what you did there.

 

Well, we do get Naruto>Sakura moments in part 2, but it's less than Sakura>Naruto, but in the way, it's actually a very good thing. I can see more soon.
 

Ouch better luck next time, I need to get x and y but first I need a 3ds. Well for me I just asked whether or not Sakura would kiss Naruto in public, in front of the whole village like with the hug.

Well, I just need to be more dedicated. She passed me in two days while I have it for 4 days. She's better at multitasking than me. Sigh. Oh she got a bike now in the game? Note: it just happened literally right now.

 

I do think Sakura would show something affection action with Naruto in front of people, but kiss, hm, I don't know.

[Fairy Tail Fantard]

Been a while here, but sadly I am being beaten in gaming by my gf (Pokemon x and y). Sigh. Ahem. So, I decided to take a small break. What's going on in here?

I know the feeling...but mine uses her feminine wiles to distract me and then goes for the kill 

 

Halo, CoD, Star Wars Battlefront, Skyrim, racing, it doesn't matter what we play, she has a way of getting her way!

[Shadow1275]

A lot of good ideas going around but here's a couple interesting ones.

 

A. What if Obito or even Sasuke [If he achieves the Rinnegan] Sacrifices themselves to resurrect the Uchiha clan? I know Obito would most likely want to resurrect Rin, but Sasuke on the other hand. I doubt he would bring his brother back to life at the cost of his own life, only because that's what his brother fought for. But if Sasuke is really still Pro-Uchiha rebuild, and he still intends to re-build his clan, the fastest way would be to revive the dead Uchiha with the rinnegan. Maybe even do it as a final act of redemption bc Imo, he's still evil.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I know the feeling...but mine uses her feminine wiles to distract me and then goes for the kill 

 

Halo, CoD, Star Wars Battlefront, Skyrim, racing, it doesn't matter what we play, she has a way of getting her way!

I think I lose all humanity if that ever happens to me. Oh wait...it already has.

 

Ok, not really. But I am afraid....

 

Anyway, well, looking forward to the next chapter.

[redragon88]

I really just don't get why some people are so devoted to NH and SS. I really really really don't get it.

 

Sasuke don't have romantic emotions, and despite me saying that SasuKarin could happen that would probably just be implied by the end without going into much detail about it. But Sakura's romantic journey has been a big part of her character arc so it should be concluded in a very direct way, which is not something Sasuke could ever be fit to do.

 

I mean, do people really have some expectation of Sasuke suddenly becoming a prince charming and will come to swipe Sakura off her feet? Come on...

 

Then there's the whole development with Naruto and Sakura which serves to contradict SS completely, but I really don't need to elaborate on that.

 

And with NH, I get that she's a sweet girl and that some might find that appealing, but it baffles me how much people like to put her on a pedestal to the point that they just ignore everything that Naruto and Sakura have gone through. It's the perfect example of selective memory (they forget everything about Sakura and glorify everything of Hinata) and false memories (they transform Sakura into a despicable woman that would make Naruto suffer in exchange of getting Sasuke).

 

I find myself so tempted to write them back, but then I think to myself: Would I give my opinion of topics to someone that will not even care to listen? And the answer is no, and so I'll apply the same logic to the irrational fandom.

 

I think I lose all humanity if that ever happens to me. Oh wait...it already has.

 

Ok, not really. But I am afraid....

 

Anyway, well, looking forward to the next chapter.

 

Don't give in too much, girls love a good show of strength of character.

Edited by redragon88, 30 October 2013 - 11:42 PM.

[Shadow1275]

I really just don't get why some people are so devoted to NH and SS. I really really really don't get it.

 

Sasuke don't have romantic emotions, and despite me saying that SasuKarin could happen that would probably just be implied by the end without going into much detail about it. But Sakura's romantic journey has been a big part of her character arc so it should be concluded in a very direct way, which is not something Sasuke could ever be fit to do.

 

I mean, do people really have some expectation of Sasuke suddenly becoming a prince charming and will come to swipe Sakura off her feet? Come on...

 

Then there's the whole development with Naruto and Sakura which serves to contradict SS completely, but I really don't need to elaborate on that.

 

And with NH, I get that she's a sweet girl and that some might find that appealing, but it baffles me how much people like to put her on a pedestal to the point that they just ignore everything that Naruto and Sakura have gone through. It's the perfect example of selective memory (they forget everything about Sakura and glorify everything of Hinata) and false memories (they transform Sakura into a despicable woman that would make Naruto suffer in exchange of getting Sasuke).

 

I find myself so tempted to write them back, but then I think to myself: Would I give my opinion of topics to someone that will not even care to listen? And the answer is no, and so I'll apply the same logic to the irrational fandom.

 

 

Don't give in too much, girls love a good show of strength of character.

I get why they like NH in terms of how she treats and feels for Naruto, but not when they decide to ignore Naruto's feelings.

 

As for SS, the only real reason for that pairing is how they look. Everyone is entitled to support whichever pairing they like best, but when it comes to SasuSaku, there's really no serious reason to support it in my opinion. Unless of course ppl who aren't Narusaku shippers want to see Sakura taken out of the picture.

Edited by Shadow1275, 30 October 2013 - 11:46 PM.

[morgaine4]

I get why they like NH in terms of how she treats and feels for Naruto, but not when they decide to ignore Naruto's feelings.

 

As for SS, the only real reason for that pairing is how they look. Everyone is entitled to support whichever pairing they like best, but when it comes to SasuSaku, there's really no serious reason to support it in my opinion. Unless of course ppl who aren't Narusaku shippers want to see Sakura taken out of the picture.

 

The way she nearly futiley sacrifices herself, leading to Naruto's near suicide?

The fact that she "loves" him, stalks him, sees the abuses he goes through but makes no effort to become his friend?

The fact that her "love" for Naruto is based on what she can get out of it and the fact that she has shown very little concern with regards to what she can give/do for Naruto?

 

I could go on and on and on, but essentially I don't get it based on that perspective at all.  She's not a horrible person, she's well-meaning, but the "positive" attributes of her "love" for Naruto are immensely over-estimated/over-exaggerated.

[sushi.]

Speaking of NH, I just debated with some NH girl on another forum. I didn't really get a response, I'm hoping for more here.

 

The topic was basically when Naruto admitted his feelings to Sai, and said he couldn't confess to Sakura.

When she asked me to point out where openly Naruto admitted he loved Sakura

The moment I mentioned is the closest you get. It's obvious what he(yes Naruto HIMSELF) was going to say, I don't know why you're not satisfied. It only makes sense if he was about to say "I love her". You'll have to come up with a better counterargument than "that's your interpretation" to convince me, I mean tell me something I don't know. "Like" and "love" means the same in Japan too, so no matter how you twist it, Sai's question was about love and Naruto agreed. We won't get more confirmation than that until the end. It's the typical structure of a manga, the romance sub-plot gets resolved in the end. You'll get your answer then, if you need him to say the 3 words to believe it.

when she denied that Naruto ever said he loves Sakura because he didn't complete the sentence, and argued that NH was clearly the endgame

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough. He wasn't "going" to say anything. He said "How can I tell her..", and no further confirmation was necessary. Sai understood what he meant(and we readers should too), and went right up to Sakura with it. You can debate all day whether his feelings are positive or not, but my point is that it is love and not a crush. There is no such thing as giving up on feelings. Naruto is not holding on to them on purpose, they're there and if they fade it's also not on purpose.

Endgame, you say? I also agree that it's clear, but obviously you think it's in favour of NH. Show me a panel, a moment where Naruto showcases love for Hinata that surpasses what he told Sai about Sakura. But there is nothing. This is the closest blunt answer we have from Naruto's side. It's from his own mouth and we should take it seriously, because his heart is steady, and he knows himself best. The rest is mere interpretation, by your logic it's OK to deny to deny Naruto's own words and at the same time assume that he is in love with Hinata. Because I can throw it back at you, he has never ever said he loves her.

And you just admitted what you think Naruto meant - "How can I tell Sakura that I have a crush on her?". That's exactly how you defined his feelings. It doesn't fit with the context, the proportion of the scene, it's way too serious(you even said so yourself) to label it as a crush. A crush is by definition a playful and shortlived infatuation, tell me how Naruto's behaviour towards Sakura resembles this.

The point of my post now isn't exactly to debate against the NH fan behind her back, because I only summed up her arguments so you would understand the context. I'm sorry if it's still unclear, but I don't want to go against the rules and at the same time I don't want my writing to be in vain.

 

I also want to bring up the handholding that is held so dear by that pairing. It just came to me last night, that Kishi has done it before. Taken seemingly romantic gestures/interactions out of the norm and friendzoned them. Naruto asked Sakura on dates and while NS fans celebrated that, it was friendly. Same with ObiRin in the latest chapter, she held Obito's hand, but I don't think it was romantic. Why view 615 romantically when at the same time friendzoning Sakura's hug and the feeding scene?

 

Not to mention Naruto's stiff face. I can tell he was moved by Hinata's speech, but nothing indicates he that romantic thoughts/feelings popped up in his head. It was just a confident smile furrowed eyebrows, his thoughts made sense here "Lets go, Hinata!". I've seen responses to the anti NH arguments too, "They weren't blushing, or any thinking about romance". The counterargument was to look at the context, but that's the thing really.. The context doesn't allow the moment to be romantic. The chapter was about rising up again, in unity(like I've said) after a fallen comrade. Camaraderie is shared by the entire alliance, but romance is limited between two people even if it's just the undertone. You might ask why didn't everybody hold Naruto's hand at the same time, but I think only Hinata knew Neji well enough to re-explain his words. The rookies was also far away and wasn't even aware of Neji's death until the following chapter. Furthermore, the solemn and dark tension/mood in the chapter makes the camaraderie more fit.

Edited by sushi., 31 October 2013 - 12:10 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Don't give in too much, girls love a good show of strength of character.

I know. I'm only kidding. But thank you.

I'll be honest but I'm done debating with NH/SS. Well, much more with NH, because believe it or not, but this chapter told me that I got nothing to worry anymore. Nothing. Now, I'm just done.

[Superman333]

Maybe it has to do with Naruto's immaturity personality?
I mean when he was being mature just for fun she was already going to fall into his arms on the begining of the shippuuden.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

A lot of good ideas going around but here's a couple interesting ones.

 

A. What if Obito or even Sasuke [If he achieves the Rinnegan] Sacrifices themselves to resurrect the Uchiha clan? I know Obito would most likely want to resurrect Rin, but Sasuke on the other hand. I doubt he would bring his brother back to life at the cost of his own life, only because that's what his brother fought for. But if Sasuke is really still Pro-Uchiha rebuild, and he still intends to re-build his clan, the fastest way would be to revive the dead Uchiha with the rinnegan. Maybe even do it as a final act of redemption bc Imo, he's still evil.

 

I really don't see that happening.  I have always seen Sasuke's "I'm going to restore my clan," as meaning redeem their honor, not have a bunch of babies (as some people look at it) and certainly not reviving them all. Would it even be possible to resurrect such a large group of people after so many years? But regardless whether it is possible or not, I am far from keen on the idea. I despise rinne tensei, almost as much as edo tensei, so the less it's used as a cheap cure-all, the better.

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's what I think too. It's about restoring honor. I mean that's how he put it by saying killing Konoha to avenge Itachi. It's changed but pretty much he made it clear that it's about honor and pride, alas saiyans.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

That's what I think too. It's about restoring honor. I mean that's how he put it by saying killing Konoha to avenge Itachi. It's changed but pretty much he made it clear that it's about honor and pride, alas saiyans.

 

Sasuke:  I am the prince of all Uchihas!

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

Sasuke:  I am the prince of all Uchihas!

Lol. Yeah, though he has "don't underestimate the Uchiha" nailed down. We're getting near.

[BlueStarSaber]

Lol. Yeah, though he has "don't underestimate the Uchiha" nailed down. We're getting near.

Someone should really slap before his ego gets the best of him.