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#10481 redragon88

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 12:57 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Feb 14 2013, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I strongly support Ichihime, and that's about the only pair I like on their list. SanjixNami? LOL. Sanji got eyes for all da ladies, not just Nami. And Nami seems to have a much stronger relationship with Luffy considering the fact that he rescued her from hell. LuNa is the only pair I ship in One Piece, and I can see Oda pulling it off.

I can pretty much agree with the LuNa stuff. Although Oda did say that there wouldn't be any romance in One Piece. The only thing I imagine happening is that there's an epilogue where we suddenly find out that Luffy and Nami had a kid together. That would be the only indicator that they actually got together. No romance hints whatsoever during the series, just strong friendship.

I also like IchiHime. I think the only reason I like it though is because Orihime is about the only character that's in love with someone. Maybe if Ichigo had a crush on Rukia I would prefer it but it seems Kubo wasn't interested in building their relationship that way.

I wonder if some people that prefer NaruHina don't take Naruto's feelings for Sakura too seriously, therefore like the pair just because Hinata likes Naruto. It would be in the same manner as to my preference of IchiHime.

I did like that there was a mention of SasuKarin given that I like that pairing as well, although that's just because to me it's the dark version of NaruSaku. I do wonder if that guy from Jump simply dislikes the idea of Sakura together with anyone. Maybe is because he doesn't approve of the role she has take ever since the Summit arc.

Kishi really needs to deliver somehow with Sakura. Let's hope he really is just delaying her time to shine.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:04 AM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Feb 15 2013, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love One Piece, but I could never ship someone with Luffy. Plus, Luffy isn't going to end up with anybody because he said. "Wife? I can't have one of those, I'm going to become the pirate king" (or something like that) when Boa Hancock was flirting with him. plus how do you do it if you're made out of rubber?


Not denying that he said that, but where exactly did you quote that from? The only time I remember him saying something close to that was in 598. "I'm not marrying you!! Thanks for the food." He rejects her after she flirted with him about being a good wife for him. And Oda can just as easily surprise people with paring Luffy up with Nami. I mean, he surprised everyone by killing off Ace. I think they're the most realistic and plausible pairing in the series.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:10 AM

Seems like I am the only who ships IchiRuki here! sad.gif


well I never read OP, but it is in my plans to read. based on what you are saying .. seems like romance in OP is just like it was in DBZ, right?!

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:16 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Feb 15 2013, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can pretty much agree with the LuNa stuff. Although Oda did say that there wouldn't be any romance in One Piece. The only thing I imagine happening is that there's an epilogue where we suddenly find out that Luffy and Nami had a kid together. That would be the only indicator that they actually got together. No romance hints whatsoever during the series, just strong friendship.

I also like IchiHime. I think the only reason I like it though is because Orihime is about the only character that's in love with someone. Maybe if Ichigo had a crush on Rukia I would prefer it but it seems Kubo wasn't interested in building their relationship that way.


I think you've just become my new best friend. I really could picture that epilogue like you said. But I think and hoping there will be some tiny hint of romance between the two near the future.

And I agree with everything you've said about Ichiruki and Ichihime.

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Feb 15 2013, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seems like I am the only who ships IchiRuki here! sad.gif


well I never read OP, but it is in my plans to read. based on what you are saying .. seems like romance in OP is just like it was in DBZ, right?!


I really do like Ichiruki, but I just prefer Ichihime more. Plus, I can't stand the Ichiruki fanbase.

Edited by luffyq1, 15 February 2013 - 01:17 AM.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:22 AM

IchiRuki or IchiHime?

I prefer IchiRuki. Rukia has shown to have deep feelings for Ichigo and Orihime has shown to love him. Both have a good chance. It's really up to Ichigo.

Anyway, we're off topic with this thread, so let's start a new topic here.

If Mito turns out to be like Sakura and Kushina, can we call ourselves canon? I mean, it would be as cliché as Kishimoto could make it.




Edited by FoolishYoungling , 15 February 2013 - 01:27 AM.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:24 AM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Feb 15 2013, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Urian Brown wrote about Naruto/Hinata, Sanji/Nami etc. I googled him, and if shonejump.viz.xom is anything to go by, he's an SJ alpha editor. ÔO wut.

As far as i remember the only editor i know on SJump Viz media is this guy Masahiko Ibaraki the rest just sound a cool name for translators.

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#10487 redragon88

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:26 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you've just become my new best friend. I really could picture that epilogue like you said. But I think and hoping there will be some tiny hint of romance between the two near the future.

It would be nice but I wouldn't get my hopes to high.

I think when asked about the romance what Oda said was "They're in love with adventure", and I think he also added "If you're interested in romance go read a shoujo". That last part really cracked me up. laugh.gif

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Feb 14 2013, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Mito turns out to be like Sakura and Kushina, can we call ourselves canon? I mean, it would be as cliché as Kishimoto could make it.

I'm not sure if I would start claiming it's canon, but from then on it would feel ridiculous to even consider alternatives happening.

Edited by redragon88, 15 February 2013 - 01:34 AM.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:50 AM

Was the person who wrote the valentines day couple thing hating on sakura? sleep.gif

People shouldn't be way to judgemental on the confession on the summit arc. what about the other good things sakura did for naruto do people forget about those moments? dry.gif

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:51 AM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Feb 15 2013, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IchiRuki or IchiHime?

I prefer IchiRuki. Rukia has shown to have deep feelings for Ichigo and Orihime has shown to love him. Both have a good chance. It's really up to Ichigo.

If Mito turns out to be like Sakura and Kushina, can we call ourselves canon? I mean, it would be as cliché as Kishimoto could make it.


100% agreed. Both pairs have an equal amount of chances to happen. Like you've said, it all rest on Ichigo.

And if it does turn out that Mito is another Sakura, then I would probably say that NS is definitely written in stone. As much as I find the idea of using parallels to be ridiculous, I have no other chance but to call NS too obvious if that were to happen.


QUOTE (redragon88 @ Feb 15 2013, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would be nice but I wouldn't get my hopes to high.

I think when asked about the romance what Oda said was "They're in love with adventure", and I think he also added "If you're interested in romance go read a shoujo". That last part really cracked me up. laugh.gif


Well Oda can be a huge troll. The way he actually said it is like this "Of course they're in love... WITH ADVENTURE!" laugh.gif

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:55 AM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Feb 14 2013, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seems like I am the only who ships IchiRuki here! sad.gif


well I never read OP, but it is in my plans to read. based on what you are saying .. seems like romance in OP is just like it was in DBZ, right?!

Well it depends for Bleach for me. If it's cool to love a shinigami, then IchiRuki. Otherwise, IchiHime. Think as somewhat Yu Yu Hakusho, except romance happened in the very beginning. If you ask me, well, I would go for IchiRuki because of the dynamic. Granted, Orihime got much more into Ichigo than Hinata, but it does suggest that Ichigo feels happy when Rukia is there, as Orihime suggested it. There's a good chance that this manga would end with no one. I don't know, maybe IchiRuki does have a really good chance. After all, the ending of FKT arc sure dismissed Orihime's importance quick.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:57 AM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Feb 14 2013, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Mito turns out to be like Sakura and Kushina, can we call ourselves canon? I mean, it would be as cliché as Kishimoto could make it.


Mito= Sakura? Oh, my faith arrogance in NaruSaku will increase even more by the parallel, it if it's really blatant. Weird because I'm already ridiculously confident in NS already. However, even though I struggle to see any pairing canon in the end other than NaruSaku, I'll try not and jump the gun. Just wait until the next NaruSaku interaction and we'll get a better impression of it all. happy.gif

I do see parallels as proof usually, however, the deciding factor for me will be when we see how big the upcoming NS moments are.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:01 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Feb 15 2013, 01:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well it depends for Bleach for me. If it's cool to love a shinigami, then IchiRuki. Otherwise, IchiHime. Think as somewhat Yu Yu Hakusho, except romance happened in the very beginning. If you ask me, well, I would go for IchiRuki because of the dynamic. Granted, Orihime got much more into Ichigo than Hinata, but it does suggest that Ichigo feels happy when Rukia is there, as Orihime suggested it. There's a good chance that this manga would end with no one. I don't know, maybe IchiRuki does have a really good chance. After all, the ending of FKT arc sure dismissed Orihime's importance quick.


Ichigo is really gentle when it comes to Orhime. If Orihime is not even in a good mindset, his strength just goes away. His fight with Grimmjow was the perfect example of that, and one of the biggest Ichihime moments in the series. I like Ichiruki a lot by the way smile.gif

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:04 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Feb 14 2013, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really do like Ichiruki, but I just prefer Ichihime more. Plus, I can't stand the Ichiruki fanbase.


Oh good to know that at least you like IchiRuki! smile.gif I don't ship IchiHime but Orihime is one of my favorite characters.
oh we aren't that bad. of course there are those stupid shippers that acting really badly but it isn't everyone and and it happens in both fandoms. wink.gif


QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Feb 14 2013, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IchiRuki or IchiHime?

I prefer IchiRuki. Rukia has shown to have deep feelings for Ichigo and Orihime has shown to love him. Both have a good chance. It's really up to Ichigo.

Anyway, we're off topic with this thread, so let's start a new topic here.

If Mito turns out to be like Sakura and Kushina, can we call ourselves canon? I mean, it would be as cliché as Kishimoto could make it.


I definitely will not call it canon since I don't like doing that until we have an indisputable proof it but If Mito turns out to be like Sakura and Kushina so I think nothing more will be able to shake my faith in NaruSaku because if even after 615, Kishi still brings to light another parallel NS .. it would be too much to ignore.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:10 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ichigo is really gentle when it comes to Orhime. If Orihime is not even in a good mindset, his strength just goes away. His fight with Grimmjow was the perfect example of that, and one of the biggest Ichihime moments in the series. I like Ichiruki a lot by the way smile.gif

Yeah, hence Orihime got more reasons than Hinata. But again, who knows. I'm just saying that the closing of that arc seems brush Orihime like nothing, which was odd. After all, wasn't she the reason or one of it to begin with?

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:27 AM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Feb 15 2013, 02:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh good to know that at least you like IchiRuki! smile.gif I don't ship IchiHime but Orihime is one of my favorite characters.
oh we aren't that bad. of course there are those stupid shippers that acting really badly but it isn't everyone and and it happens in both fandoms. wink.gif



You're absolutely right. It's just that I've had bad experiences with the Ichiruki fandom when I was neutral on pairs in Bleach. And I'm glad you like Orihime. It feels like Orihime is the Sakura of the series.

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Feb 15 2013, 02:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, hence Orihime got more reasons than Hinata. But again, who knows. I'm just saying that the closing of that arc seems brush Orihime like nothing, which was odd. After all, wasn't she the reason or one of it to begin with?


Her importance diminished due to the fact that situation they were in escalated into more than just about her.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:29 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're absolutely right. It's just that I've had bad experiences with the Ichiruki fandom when I was neutral on pairs in Bleach. And I'm glad you like Orihime. It feels like Orihime is the Sakura of the series.



Her importance diminished due to the fact that situation they were in escalated into more than just about her.

True. Just wish she got some closing comment, but instead, it went out pretty quick. So, how would you feel if nothing becomes canon for Bleach?

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:40 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Feb 15 2013, 02:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True. Just wish she got some closing comment, but instead, it went out pretty quick. So, how would you feel if nothing becomes canon for Bleach?


I think I'd be ok if a pair wasn't going to happen in Bleach. But I just can't imagine Kubo easily brushing off Orihime's strong love that she has for Ichigo. After all, she would fall in love with him 5 times over if she had 5 lives. That's some powerful stuff, man. laugh.gif


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:48 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Feb 14 2013, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I'd be ok if a pair wasn't going to happen in Bleach. But I just can't imagine Kubo easily brushing off Orihime's strong love that she has for Ichigo. After all, she would fall in love with him 5 times over if she had 5 lives. That's some powerful stuff, man. laugh.gif


I've seen a lot of people compare IchiHime with NaruHina ... it makes me curious. How is IchiHime better than NaruHina? Just an honest question. I haven't seen Bleach yet so I wouldn't know. It's on my list though. wink.gif

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 03:01 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Feb 14 2013, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I'd be ok if a pair wasn't going to happen in Bleach. But I just can't imagine Kubo easily brushing off Orihime's strong love that she has for Ichigo. After all, she would fall in love with him 5 times over if she had 5 lives. That's some powerful stuff, man. laugh.gif

It won't be the first to ignore love. But yeah, I understand. The problem is that the manga is in yellow alert in terms of getting cancelled or don't get the permission to end it big. That's my concern as of now.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 03:02 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Feb 14 2013, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've seen a lot of people compare IchiHime with NaruHina ... it makes me curious. How is IchiHime better than NaruHina? Just an honest question. I haven't seen Bleach yet so I wouldn't know. It's on my list though. wink.gif


From what I've read, Orihime cares alot about her friends, not just Ichi; it's one of her main developments. She's not some Ichigo-obsessed fangirl.


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