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[六道仙人]

I'm pretty sure that Chie is (or was) a SS fan.... So her reply didn't really surprise me.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hm, I decided to ask this question from tumblr, though I have to redux it in case the answer becomes too similar, knowing perhaps people would choose this for #1. So here I go.

What are your top 2 NS parallels?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

Also, a little something about RTN:

 

For those who are interested, I bought the RTN DVD, and in the collector edition, there was the little book with Chie Nakamura and Junko Takeuchi’s interview. And it looks like Junko has a better apprehension of Sakura’s development than her own voice actor, because when Chie said that she thought that if Sakura was in RTN, the only girl who Sasuke was trying to seduce, then she would surely want to stay in this world and then, Junko said something like “I’m not sure of that…”, like no, Sakura-chan is not that shallow anymore. To be honest, I was kind of disappointed to read what Chie Nakamura said, after all the development Sakura had benefited to not be the little girl obsessed by Sasuke anymore, saying that is really out of place. I’m not even sure if the past Sakura would have reacted like Chie said, Sakura has always be an intelligent girl, able to distinct what is the right thing to do. I’m sure she would have come to the right choice sooner or later, even if Sasuke was really “in love” with her in this world. And if not, then it would show even more that her feelings for him are shallows, because it wouldn’t be the true Sasuke. 

Well i'm not surprised it was her who said on the interview that Sakura used Naruto's feelings for herself and she was being rough with Naruto on her confession.

 

Which i believe she commented on the summit but i dont remember.

 

I'm pretty sure that Chie is (or was) a SS fan.... So her reply didn't really surprise me.

 

I'm not sure if she is a SS fan right now after the summit.

But due to her reply on Jump Festa i believe she dislike Sakura's character which doesnt surprise me.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 October 2013 - 11:53 AM.

[咲耶姫]

Yes but the fact that Sakura's own seiyuu is not able to see her development is quiet annoying. Sakura is smart enough to distinct her real world and the AU world, and even more when her parents are dead in this AU world. Her parents are DEAD, of course she would have come to want to return in the real world, even with a loving Sasuke in the AU. 

And like I said, if she would have wanted to stay, then it would have prove that her feelings are not that strong for Sasuke, since in the AU, it's not the real Sasuke. 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Yes but the fact that Sakura's own seiyuu is not able to see her development is quiet annoying. Sakura is smart enough to distinct her real world and the AU world, and even more when her parents are dead in this AU world. Her parents are DEAD, of course she would have come to want to return in the real world, even with a loving Sasuke in the AU. 

And like I said, if she would have wanted to stay, then it would have prove that her feelings are not that strong for Sasuke, since in the AU, it's not the real Sasuke. 

Her feelings for Sasuke was proved to be not that strong when she was willing to let it aside for Naruto's wellbeing on the summit.
Just the fact that she made a fake confession for Naruto in order to return his feelings already proves that her feelings for Sasuke are not that strong as they used to be on part 1.

[sushi.]

Yes but the fact that Sakura's own seiyuu is not able to see her development is quiet annoying. Sakura is smart enough to distinct her real world and the AU world, and even more when her parents are dead in this AU world. Her parents are DEAD, of course she would have come to want to return in the real world, even with a loving Sasuke in the AU. 

And like I said, if she would have wanted to stay, then it would have prove that her feelings are not that strong for Sasuke, since in the AU, it's not the real Sasuke. 

I remember when she said Sakura's confession was selfish and then Kishi went out of his way to defend her. Must be pretty awkward when the author himself basically implies you misunderstood your own character.

 

And now Junko disagrees with her too, this is so fun.

Edited by sushi., 26 October 2013 - 12:08 PM.

[咲耶姫]

Yes, you're right. If she really loved Sasuke, she wouldn't thought of confessing to Naruto, even if i was just to make him return to Konoha in order to protect him. It proves that she has at least some feelings for Naruto and if she has some feelings for Naruto, then that means that her "love" for Sasuke has decrease. And as the chapters come out, her love for him seems to disappear. 

 

@ sushi: It was more a different interpretation of Sakura's character in the movie reather than a real disagreement. 

Edited by 咲耶姫, 26 October 2013 - 12:10 PM.

[六道仙人]

besides this Chie Nakamura proves that she didn't understand Sakura at all. In RTN, Sakura wanted to come out from the RTN world because she felt the loneliness for her parent's deaths, she felt the same feelings as naruto feels in normal world, not just because she was sad since Sasuke was playboying with each girl in village.

[sushi.]

If she truly loved Sasuke, she wouldn't have decided to kill him before seeing him again after 3 years. She didn't know personally how he changed for the worse and she hadn't seen him in a long time, but she decided to kill him anyway.

 

It just baffles me how easily she believed her "loved one" was evil, if it was Naruto she wouldn't believe it before she sees it.

Edited by sushi., 26 October 2013 - 12:19 PM.

[咲耶姫]

Yes, the fact that she was missing her parents is what decided her to return in the real world, the Sasuke playboy was just a plus. I feel like the Sasuke part was more for the viewer: to show them that Sasuke doesn't care about Sakura (well, for the love part). 

Edited by 咲耶姫, 26 October 2013 - 12:27 PM.

[rocci]

This make me question what would happen if only naruto get genjutsu by tobi? What would AU sakura personality?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well the thing is in the movie, Sakura was only there to stay to find a way to get out, only it was feeling good, but not once indicated that she wanted to stay and screw Naruto for her selfish needs. The reason why it was played comedy is because Naruto was the one being bummed out (literally) so won't it better for him to be in the same level as Sakura. She insisted it's no big deal, yet she was liking it, even though Naruto liked her being treated nicely by kids. The point was Naruto wanted to have the same wavelength of enjoyment, so he got mad that he get the crappy life.

So why Naruto's situations were more serious if not just serious than Sakura? Because again, it's all about leaving, but the problem is that it's taking them a while to figure out how since "Madara" doesn't exist there or rather known. Because of many delays, Sakura starts to suffer loneliness. She realized Naruto really felt this way for all of his life, so she wanted to leave, but Naruto was now loving the world he was in, to the point maybe he wanted to stay. To me, the fence scene is where it contradicts everything the seiyuu or anyone's interpretation because Sakura had a hard time on thinking what to do with Naruto and when Sakura heard that Naruto was talking like he has a life in there (I got to be home), she tested him by asking Naruto if he likes it there, which Naruto responded in a lying way, so she knew. Then, instead of begging or anything, she walked away. That said it all and trust me, I'm doing the best not to sound biased but that's how it was written. I can see why people in here are happy not because of NS stuff but the consistent of the characters. Regardless of the beginning, it has the factor to be there.

I guess hearing/reading others is not believing until you read/watch the actual source for yourself, and this goes for everything, not just Naruto.

[Superman333]

The thing about true love is that once you fall in love you will always love that person. So if Sakura-Chan truly loved Sasuke, her feelings for him would never waver nor would they decrease. It was selfish love, and selfish love can't be true love. With Naruto it will be true love and she will always be in love with Naruto . 

 

With that said, it was shown several times even in the movie that she was willing to do things for Naruto's sake even with Sasuke there she was willing to put aside her own needs for Naruto's. So she puts Naruto first even above her self which is a clear indicator. 

Edited by Superman333, 26 October 2013 - 12:51 PM.

[Psychox]

Yes but the fact that Sakura's own seiyuu is not able to see her development is quiet annoying. Sakura is smart enough to distinct her real world and the AU world, and even more when her parents are dead in this AU world. Her parents are DEAD, of course she would have come to want to return in the real world, even with a loving Sasuke in the AU. 

And like I said, if she would have wanted to stay, then it would have prove that her feelings are not that strong for Sasuke, since in the AU, it's not the real Sasuke. 

 

Hm.. I think the voice actress  assumed that due to Kishi's portraying her when the swing scene took place when Sakura said ''If Sasuke-kun was here , he would've understood what i want/how i feel'' which is kind of a let down if you elaborate on it  . I mean, really ? Sasuke? The guy who didn't gave two cents about how you feel nor for your well being/existence? Hhh . But no, i do believe that  Sakura wanted to return to the real world due to her experiencing  loneliness . Later on we see that she was ready to stay in the genjutsu world just so to make Naruto happy . If that ain't real love i don't know what is ..

But if we are to anticipate that Sasuke would return her feelings and she feeling lonely , would she be happy ? Is that what the real one would give her? I think that is a lesson she had to learn the hard way.

[TouKen4Life3g]

^You supposed to think that these characters were going their ways to flawed with their discussions, such as Naruto would be better off with actual family, Sakura having no family, and her thinking Sasuke would be the better person to understand her. That said all of them are addressed and well, the ending was the morale of it. It would have been questionable for that line have not get any results, but hey if it's for that date request scene, I'm all for it. Sure, it's odd for them to act the way they did in the beginning, but if the story has its points, then it's ok, so long you do it well.

[Psychox]

^You supposed to think that these characters were going their ways to flawed with their discussions, such as Naruto would be better off with actual family, Sakura having no family, and her thinking Sasuke would be the better person to understand her. That said all of them are addressed and well, the ending was the morale of it. It would have been questionable for that line have not get any results, but hey if it's for that date request scene, I'm all for it. Sure, it's odd for them to act the way they did in the beginning, but if the story has its points, then it's ok, so long you do it well.

That's why i think it was a lesson they both had to learn the hard way through experience .

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's why i think it was a lesson they both had to learn the hard way through experience .

Pretty much.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Yes, the fact that she was missing her parents is what decided her to return in the real world, the Sasuke playboy was just a plus. I feel like the Sasuke part was more for the viewer: to show them that Sasuke doesn't care about Sakura (well, for the love part). 

Well that part is tricky for sure because it was a "what if" scenario.

Remember that despite feeling lonely she was kind of happy when she saw Sasuke then on the next seconds she saw him around a lot of girls.

So in fact she may have thought that Sasuke could be the person who could fill up her loneliness on that moment.
If she would have come back or not i dont know.

 

She decided to return to the real world after she saw Sasuke playing with other girls, and in all everything combined made her into tears and realize she was wrong on which even then she was more gentle with him after that experience when she goes to Naruto's home, it's tricky for sure but even then would not erase her loneliness which Naruto still felt the same after being with the people who fill up his loneliness.

 

In fact they werent the real Naruto and Sakura due to the fact they were tweaked to look like the exactly the opposite in terms of personal experience.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 October 2013 - 03:04 PM.

[咲耶姫]

Indeed, she was happy. But as far as I remember, she was already starting to feel lonely before she saw Sasuke with the other girls, and even when she was happy while eating her food at the table, the rose that Sasuke gave her, was starting to fade. So, I think that it might symbolize that she was beggining to feel like her place was not in this world, she just wasn't completely aware of it until she saw the playboy Sasuke, that was the last thing she needed to fully understand. But she was already really saddened by the loneliness that the loss of her parents caused her. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's why it connected to Sasuke understanding her because if Sasuke did understand, then he would have been serious with her. His words at the balcony suggested that he cared for her, but really, she's just another girl on a Tuesday. So loneliness and understanding connected together, and both of them happened. When you feel alone, you would at least have someone on your side. She claimed that Sasuke would have her side, but reality pretty much kicked her hard. Why else she felt different in the aftermath, including Naruto.