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[Don-kun]

Ok I've a real question if Naruto is badly hurt do you see Hinata running up to him going all despair and crying over him. Or that role is more canon with Sakura and Hinata standing on the side line. If that is the case doesn't that means that Sakura cares a lot more about Naruto and a pairing with them make a lot more sense.

Someone says that Sakura will never call Naruto, Naruto-kun like Hinata, but I cannot picture Hinata crying all over Naruto's motionless body, even Ino step away from a hurt Naruto when Sakura step in the scene.
Now you may ask why I'm saying this is because I know Naruto at some time will be badly hurt and I really cannot picture Hinata crying for Naruto the way Sakura does.

what your opinion about this.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Kishimoto
Character Interaction

Naruto and Sasuke
>> Sasuke we are equals
Naruto and Neji
>> Neji we are equals
Naruto and Gaara
>> Gaara we are equals
Itachi and Kabuto
>> Kabuto we are equals

did i forgot someome?
can u guys help me to finish the list??

[Fenris]

Ok I've a real question if Naruto is badly hurt do you see Hinata running up to him going all despair and crying over him. Or that role is more canon with Sakura and Hinata standing on the side line. If that is the case doesn't that means that Sakura cares a lot more about Naruto and a pairing with them make a lot more sense.

Someone says that Sakura will never call Naruto, Naruto-kun like Hinata, but I cannot picture Hinata crying all over Naruto's motionless body, even Ino step away from a hurt Naruto when Sakura step in the scene.
Now you may ask why I'm saying this is because I know Naruto at some time will be badly hurt and I really cannot picture Hinata crying for Naruto the way Sakura does.

what your opinion about this.

I can see Hinata, before Naruto even gets hurt, offering to help him because she thinks of him as a child who needs her help to hold his hand and walk across the street. She showed signs of this before and Sakura told her that Naruto could handle it. But, I could see Sakura taking the carefully thought out steps (while being a nervous wreck, of course. Seeing your lover/best friend dying in your arms isn't always a ... calm reaction.) and healing him while also being distraught over his body. Hinata would probably cry, yes, as would Ino or Shikamaru or something at a fallen comrade - but I can't see her doing much but just standing there.

[Chew]

Depends on what Naruto's condition will be in the fight. Since he can't go super Kyuubi mode and if he's all beat up Sakura will freaked out and will quickly rush to him to heal him. She will call him an idiot as she heals him telling him that they're all here to help him that he doesn't has to do things on his own anymore. And once the fighting ends she will probably hug him (again for the third time ).

LOL Graven this is my favorite post from you

Anywho, I imagine if something like what Graven said (or something along those lines) happened, then Sakura would heal him, call him an idiot etc. Meanwhile, you'd have a juxtaposed panel of Hinata's reaction. If you notice (I know some to most of you have) that lately when we have a panel of Sakura, we have a panel of Hinata and vice-versa. For example, when Naruto saved Sakura from the Zetsu clone, the panel that followed was him saving Hinata from the Zetsu clone. I take this merely as a juxtaposition of how Naruto interacts with both females etc. Going back to what I was saying earlier and Graven's speculation...I hope we get a third hug

[Sasuke: 1 Naruto: 2 (maybe 3 and many more )

[Verilance]

Someone says that Sakura will never call Naruto, Naruto-kun like Hinata,

Sakura calling him Naruto-kun would be a step backwards in their relationship, thinking otherwise is faulty thinking by western eyes not knowing or caring what these suffixes really mean.

a suffix such as -kun imposes distance between the two people Sai explained this very well in the manga

Sai... --Click here to view--

-chan is different though because it is often used as a loving diminutive used for young boys and girls (or someone you have strong feelings for as Naruto does) the only worry about suffixes is if you find Naruto starts calling out Hinata-chan

common suffixes and their closest english prefix equivelent

-sensei (doctor, teacher, Master (in the sense of a Teacher))

-dono (lord)

-sama (Mr,Mrs. Ms. at higher station)

-san (Mr. Mrs. Ms at same station)

-kun (master (in the sense of a young boy))

-chan (Miss)

These are not exact interpretations of course but approximations

Edited by Verilance, 28 May 2012 - 09:53 PM.

[Fenris]

Depends on what Naruto's condition will be in the fight. Since he can't go super Kyuubi mode and if he's all beat up Sakura will freaked out and will quickly rush to him to heal him. She will call him an idiot as she heals him telling him that they're all here to help him that he doesn't has to do things on his own anymore. And once the fighting ends she will probably hug him (again for the third time ).

Yes. But some people just don't understand that she calls him an idiot because she cares about him and his well being, and dodging in a fight full force without back up would be fatal. I could picture her saying something like that.

[Don-kun]

Sakura calling him Naruto-kun would be a step backwards in their relationship, thinking otherwise is faulty thinking by western eyes not knowing or caring what these suffixes really mean.

a suffix such as -kun imposes distance between the two people Sai explained this very well in the manga

Sai... --Click here to view--

-chan is different though because it is often used as a loving diminutive used for young boys and girls (or someone you have strong feelings for as Naruto does) the only worry about suffixes is if you find Naruto starts calling out Hinata-chan

common suffixes and their closest english prefix equivelent

-sensei (doctor, teacher, Master (in the sense of a Teacher))

-dono (lord)

-sama (Mr,Mrs. Ms. at higher station)

-san (Mr. Mrs. Ms at same station)

-kun (master (in the sense of a young boy))

-chan (Miss)

These are not exact interpretations of course but approximations

No, no no no.
Sorry I even hate FF where Sakura calls him Naruto-kun, this is just a reference for the Anime team I pretty sure they try to use that against NaruSaku since kun also mean when a girl has a crush on a guy.
No suffix only means two things, no respect or closeness
So my post was more about the reference from the OVA where Sakura was crying over a motionless Naruto, for some reason I cannot see Hinata doing that.

For me Sakura is the person that cares about Naruto the most, but NH like to say that Hinata deserves him because she was always there for him and cares for him more that anyone.

[Gravenimage]

I can see Sakura telling Naruto what I said in my last post. That he doesn't have to take the burden of saving the world on his own, that he has friends right here that are willing to help him. However I don't see Hinata rushing to him or crying if she sees him all beat up (she will be OC and also she's no medic nin). The problem with Hinata which a lot of members of this forum has said it before, she doesn't have any faith in Naruto. In three years I think she's the only member of the rookies who can't see that Naruto has changed and has become stronger than before (NH fans avoid this fact). She only see him as someone weak who needs "help". She said it herself in part 1 (in which NH fans deny it completely as being a big let down in the pairing becoming canon) that she sees him as a "proud failure." She doesn't believe in him while on the contrary Sakura who probably is the only person who has a lot of faith in him and truly believes he can save and change the shinobi world. She knows very well that he's all right fighting Tobi but she wants to be there to heal his injuries and help him in any way she can (she wants to be by his side through good and bad no matter what and that's exactly what the members of the rookies are thinking too). And yet I don't see her thinking that she wants to be with Sasuke and stay by his side, it has ALWAYS been Naruto (SS fans deny this to the extreme and even some NS fans too).

Edited by Gravenimage, 28 May 2012 - 10:18 PM.

[Don-kun]

You're right what is hard to understand, if SS knows that Naruto is the person Sakura cares about the most and NH knows that Sakura has more faith in Naruto, care about is wellbeing more and anyone else, Believe in Naruto dreams, wants to see him becomes Hokage, while Hinata only thinks that he needs to protect by her and dreaming most of the time about a relationship with him.
Why is so hard for them to accept NS when the paring is less selfish.

[Paptala]

She seems to have thought over Sasuke's explanation for Naruto's behavior- loneliness by chapter 5, so she realized that Naruto's behavior wasn't out of a conscious tormenting of her. I think it shifted her mental picture to- oh, he wants to be friends with me, but doesn't know how to be friends with a girl. That shift in her mental image of Naruto made the constant "Sakura chan" thing stop bothering her and become acceptable. The date requests and groaningly bad attempts at overtures annoyed her though- she still thought herself too ugly for any boy to be interested in her romantically. So it hit her irritation level that she believed he just was confusing wanting to be friends with a girl to wanting to be romantic with a girl. (remember Kishimoto describes her as naive about what love really was in part 1). Rock Lee's immediate strong interest in her, after first freaking her out, looks to have opened her eyes a bit about Naruto's feelings for her- that maybe he was kind of attracted to her for real, not just confusing friendship with attraction. (it's very clear in chapter 245 she was aware he had been attracted to her. What was the shock when Sai talked to her was the depth of Naruto's romantic love for her, every bit as intense as the romantic love she felt for him) Look at the vibe Sakura gives to Naruto from the Chunnin exams onward in part 1, she pretty much trusts him completely- even when he's wrong, she's less annoyed at his attempts at overtures, and blushes and smiles about his saving her from Gaara, and tells Naruto (in spite of Sasuke's threat) about Sasuke's curse mark, then comes the POAL scene and her private reaction to it- it's at that point her semiconscious feelings for Naruto becomes fully conscious and she takes her first steps away from her one sided crush on Sasuke. By the time she goes to Tsunade Naruto is already completely equal in her feelings, by the start of part 2, Naruto already had "won" her heart. (that's really obvious when you compare even Sakura's first part 2 reactions to Naruto vs to Sasuke...)

After reading your post, I agree that you're right in Sakura probably realized Naruto wasn't trying to "torment" her by the date requests, etc. I still believe that she never took them seriously, which is understandable given Naruto's light-hearted tone when he asked her.

I don't know that Sakura's improved perception of Lee actually helped open Sakura's eyes in regards to Naruto at all, though. If I recall correctly, Sakura got incredibly pissed at Naruto right after badmouthing Lee (despite his "worrying" over her hair immediately beforehand), but having her own personal revelations about Naruto separately in the first test ("I don't want to see that impossible dream of yours crushed"), in the FoD before that scene ("At least Naruto isn't a coward!"), in the preliminaries ("I used to think you were an idiot...I was wrong Naruto. Show them!" & "If it weren't for you shouting like an idiot, I would have lost against Ino") and then in the finals ("When I watch you fight, I feel like I have to try harder...that's an incredible thing"), none of which was influenced by anything Lee did.

[FoolishYoungling]

After reading your post, I agree that you're right in Sakura probably realized Naruto wasn't trying to "torment" her by the date requests, etc. I still believe that she never took them seriously, which is understandable given Naruto's light-hearted tone when he asked her.

I don't know that Sakura's improved perception of Lee actually helped open Sakura's eyes in regards to Naruto at all, though. If I recall correctly, Sakura got incredibly pissed at Naruto right after badmouthing Lee (despite his "worrying" over her hair immediately beforehand), but having her own personal revelations about Naruto separately in the first test ("I don't want to see that impossible dream of yours crushed"), in the FoD before that scene ("At least Naruto isn't a coward!"), in the preliminaries ("I used to think you were an idiot...I was wrong Naruto. Show them!" & "If it weren't for you shouting like an idiot, I would have lost against Ino") and then in the finals ("When I watch you fight, I feel like I have to try harder...that's an incredible thing"), none of which was influenced by anything Lee did.

this.

[ciardha]

After reading your post, I agree that you're right in Sakura probably realized Naruto wasn't trying to "torment" her by the date requests, etc. I still believe that she never took them seriously, which is understandable given Naruto's light-hearted tone when he asked her.

I don't know that Sakura's improved perception of Lee actually helped open Sakura's eyes in regards to Naruto at all, though. If I recall correctly, Sakura got incredibly pissed at Naruto right after badmouthing Lee (despite his "worrying" over her hair immediately beforehand), but having her own personal revelations about Naruto separately in the first test ("I don't want to see that impossible dream of yours crushed"), in the FoD before that scene ("At least Naruto isn't a coward!"), in the preliminaries ("I used to think you were an idiot...I was wrong Naruto. Show them!" & "If it weren't for you shouting like an idiot, I would have lost against Ino") and then in the finals ("When I watch you fight, I feel like I have to try harder...that's an incredible thing"), none of which was influenced by anything Lee did.

You misunderstood what I meant. No, her opinion of Naruto in general was already pretty much on the level you were thinking I meant before the Chunin exams. What I was talking about is how she saw Lee's feelings, even if just a crush, were sincere. I think that lead to her seeing Naruto's feelings for her wasn't just him mistaking friendship for romantic attraction. When a second boy became attracted to her (Lee), I think that opened her eyes to seeing that maybe Naruto did feel more than just friendship for her. (She wasn't aware of the depth of Naruto's love, that it was as intense as her feelings for him, until Sai told her.) I think she may have already been teetering on the edge of semi-conscious to consciously aware of her real attraction to Naruto vs the one side crush on Sasuke in the Forest of Death. Thus the blush with the delighted look when she is looking out her window and thinking about how she was told Naruto rescued her from Gaara, at the conclusion of the Invasion arc.

Sakura got mad at Naruto in the Forest of Death for mocking Lee and using an aspect his physical appearance to heighten the mocking tone. What was Sakura bullied about in the Academy?- An element of her physical appearance... (She did think Lee's eyebrows were creepy too when she first met him and he made that way over the top love at first sight come on, but once she knew he wasn't just some creepy dude and wanted to protect her out of his crush on her- that was enough for her to create a bond of friendship and compassion to Lee. Naruto was acting like an jerk to Lee, and Sakura wasn't going to tolerate it, no matter how much she had come to care for Naruto. Sakura still gets irritated in part 2 when Naruto acts overly rude, as she should, it's bad behavior that someone should tell him to quit doing. If he wants to be Hokage, he needs to get that part of himself more disciplined, it's rude and immature, and he's now considered pretty much an adult in that world. (As Shikamaru told him in related context, it's time to be the adult. He has toned it down some, but he needs to do more).

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Once in a while, I will peer in this thread, seeing what new topics have been sprouted. I like many of your opinions, especially, Ciardha's. I never seemed to notice that Lee's feelings for Sakura played a factor in Sakura falling in love with Naruto. Part 1, we knew her feels started to develope after the Sasuke retrieval arc. And I agree that Sakura must keep Naruto in line, since, Tsunade faile to play the mother/elder sister role in the entire manga. Can't have our future Rokudaime shouting Jijii Raikage and Rubber Man lol.

[Paptala]

You misunderstood what I meant. No, her opinion of Naruto in general was already pretty much on the level you were thinking I meant before the Chunin exams. What I was talking about is how she saw Lee's feelings, even if just a crush, were sincere. I think that lead to her seeing Naruto's feelings for her wasn't just him mistaking friendship for romantic attraction. When a second boy became attracted to her (Lee), I think that opened her eyes to seeing that maybe Naruto did feel more than just friendship for her. (She wasn't aware of the depth of Naruto's love, that it was as intense as her feelings for him, until Sai told her.) I think she may have already been teetering on the edge of semi-conscious to consciously aware of her real attraction to Naruto vs the one side crush on Sasuke in the Forest of Death. Thus the blush with the delighted look when she is looking out her window and thinking about how she was told Naruto rescued her from Gaara, at the conclusion of the Invasion arc.

So, are you saying that Lee's feelings for her, once she realized he was sincere, boosted her self esteem to the point that she could now see Naruto's feelings for her more accurately? I can see that - if that is what you're trying to get at.

Sakura got mad at Naruto in the Forest of Death for mocking Lee and using an aspect his physical appearance to heighten the mocking tone. What was Sakura bullied about in the Academy?- An element of her physical appearance... (She did think Lee's eyebrows were creepy too when she first met him and he made that way over the top love at first sight come on, but once she knew he wasn't just some creepy dude and wanted to protect her out of his crush on her- that was enough for her to create a bond of friendship and compassion to Lee. Naruto was acting like an jerk to Lee, and Sakura wasn't going to tolerate it, no matter how much she had come to care for Naruto. Sakura still gets irritated in part 2 when Naruto acts overly rude, as she should, it's bad behavior that someone should tell him to quit doing. If he wants to be Hokage, he needs to get that part of himself more disciplined, it's rude and immature, and he's now considered pretty much an adult in that world. (As Shikamaru told him in related context, it's time to be the adult. He has toned it down some, but he needs to do more).

You're right - Sakura had every right to get pissed at Naruto for saying what he did, and she still gets angry with him when he acts immature/rude to others (though he obviously getting better, and Sakura's been laying off of him as a result). I find it funny when people get so angry at the claim that Naruto needs Sakura to keep him in line, when its been shown multiple times that Sakura is a positive influence on his reckless behavior (I think immediately of the times when Sai got Naruto seeing red, and Sakura was able to get Naruto to calm down by just saying his name).

Like you said, I just misunderstood what you were saying.

Still, there are still two things that bother me about the notion of Sakura being cognizant of her feelings for Naruto so early on. If she was, as you say, then why:
1) was Sakura so shocked when Yamato talked about the strength of her feelings for Naruto?; and
2) why didn't Sakura think of Naruto when the love letter nin said, "If you love him, then he must be a great guy" --> it was said in present tense, and Naruto is a great guy, and Sakura knows that; if she were consciously in love with Naruto, even if she were ashamed of once being in love with Sasuke (who is definitely not a great guy), why wouldn't she then afterwards think of Naruto?

Keep in mind I'm not making the argument that Sakura isn't in love with Naruto --> I just think that she's not cognizant of the nature of those feelings, while you do. I respect your interpretation of the manga, and if you can convince me otherwise, then I certainly wouldn't mind. Just wanted to know your thoughts on those two points.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

So, are you saying that Lee's feelings for her, once she realized he was sincere, boosted her self esteem to the point that she could now see Naruto's feelings for her more accurately? I can see that - if that is what you're trying to get at.

You're right - Sakura had every right to get pissed at Naruto for saying what he did, and she still gets angry with him when he acts immature/rude to others (though he obviously getting better, and Sakura's been laying off of him as a result). I find it funny when people get so angry at the claim that Naruto needs Sakura to keep him in line, when its been shown multiple times that Sakura is a positive influence on his reckless behavior (I think immediately of the times when Sai got Naruto seeing red, and Sakura was able to get Naruto to calm down by just saying his name).

Like you said, I just misunderstood what you were saying.

Still, there are still two things that bother me about the notion of Sakura being cognizant of her feelings for Naruto so early on. If she was, as you say, then why:
1) was Sakura so shocked when Yamato talked about the strength of her feelings for Naruto?; and
2) why didn't Sakura think of Naruto when the love letter nin said, "If you love him, then he must be a great guy" --> it was said in present tense, and Naruto is a great guy, and Sakura knows that; if she were consciously in love with Naruto, even if she were ashamed of once being in love with Sasuke (who is definitely not a great guy), why wouldn't she then afterwards think of Naruto?

Keep in mind I'm not making the argument that Sakura isn't in love with Naruto --> I just think that she's not cognizant of the nature of those feelings, while you do. I respect your interpretation of the manga, and if you can convince me otherwise, then I certainly wouldn't mind. Just wanted to know your thoughts on those two points.

this is why, there is only 50% of NS happening because Sakura is still clinging onto those feelings she harbors for Sasuke. Those feelings are a hindrance and it will derail any chance of her getting over Sasuke.
But it has been proven that Sakura has developed "unclear" affection over the course of the manga. Their are two sides to it: she either loves Naruto like a sibling or romantically.

Now the question is which one? There is only one evidence that points to Sakura reaction about women romantically has love issues with him. The evidence points to Sakura in a firm of antipathy towards Hinata's declaration of love for Naruto. However and sadly, Sakura still treats Naruto as second best. If she can't have Sasuke, Naruto is her rebound man.

[kidNinja]

this is why, there is only 50% of NS happening because Sakura is still clinging onto those feelings she harbors for Sasuke. Those feelings are a hindrance and it will derail any chance of her getting over Sasuke.
But it has been proven that Sakura has developed "unclear" affection over the course of the manga. Their are two sides to it: she either loves Naruto like a sibling or romantically.

Now the question is which one? There is only one evidence that points to Sakura reaction about women romantically has love issues with him. The evidence points to Sakura in a firm of antipathy towards Hinata's declaration of love for Naruto. However and sadly, Sakura still treats Naruto as second best. If she can't have Sasuke, Naruto is her rebound man.

One would think that someone who constantly puts you down, ignores you, slaps apples out of your hands after trying to feed them, ignore your love confession, almost run a sword through you, attempts to shoot lightning through your back and tries to cut your throat will be enough reason for you to stop loving them.


Nonetheless, it seems that Sakura's choice of Naruto over a redeemed Sasuke would be the only way it could go without making it look like Sakura chose Naruto because of an absent Sasuke.

Edited by kidNinja, 30 May 2012 - 02:24 AM.

[Gravenimage]

this is why, there is only 50% of NS happening because Sakura is still clinging onto those feelings she harbors for Sasuke. Those feelings are a hindrance and it will derail any chance of her getting over Sasuke.
But it has been proven that Sakura has developed "unclear" affection over the course of the manga. Their are two sides to it: she either loves Naruto like a sibling or romantically.

Now the question is which one? There is only one evidence that points to Sakura reaction about women romantically has love issues with him. The evidence points to Sakura in a firm of antipathy towards Hinata's declaration of love for Naruto. However and sadly, Sakura still treats Naruto as second best. If she can't have Sasuke, Naruto is her rebound man.

I have to disagree on the whole rebound thing, it annoys me when people say that Naruto is Sakura's" silver medal" because there's no such thing as a silver medal. If that's the case then I guess people are forbidden to move on from your first love and fall in love again with someone else who will be even be better than your first. Where does it say that people can't fall in love again? That they have continued loving their first love? Or are they destine to think of a relationship that's impossible or out of reach even fixing because both we're completely different people and it wasn't going to work. Sakura has already chosen who she loves, who she wants to protect from Sasuke none the less. I still highly believe she move on from Sasuke but we're assuming that she might still held feelings for him, and the only evidence we have is her thinking of of an evil Sasuke with flames on the background from a panel (that's enough proof ). I will think differently if the image was of a smiling twelve year old Sasuke but that's not the case. Sakura hasn't said anything of still loving Sasuke, she said in 470 that she doesn't love him anymore, however not caring for him is a different story. She hasn't stop caring for him as a friend, and former teammate as the boy who used to be her crush. She is conflicted because of her bond to him just like Naruto and it's not easy to severe those bonds, even Sasuke himself is having problems with that.

But I will believe her words from 459 as the ultimate truth to her character. She doesn't want to make another mistake, then she said she doesn't love Sasuke anymore, but she lied in saying that she didn't care for him anymore (loving-caring). And then her words to Naruto from 469 how she feels for him (reminding again she doesn't want to make another mistake). Followed by Kishi's words that he thought he was making an honest girl surprisingly stubborn. I highly believe she doesn't love Sasuke anymore because through her actions we see who is the person most important to her. Can Kishi make it anymore obvious who Sakura truly loves? In this upcoming movie he might give the most obvious hint (even after all the hints and parallels he has given in his manga).

[kidNinja]

I have to disagree on the whole rebound thing, it annoys me when people say that Naruto is Sakura's" silver medal" because there's no such thing as a silver medal. If that's the case then I guess people are forbidden to move on from your first love and fall in love again with someone else who will be even be better than your first. Where does it say that people can't fall in love again? That they have continued loving their first love? Or are they destine to think of a relationship that's impossible or out of reach even fixing because both we're completely different people and it wasn't going to work. Sakura has already chosen who she loves, who she wants to protect from Sasuke none the less. I still highly believe she move on from Sasuke but we're assuming that she might still held feelings for him, and the only evidence we have is her thinking of of an evil Sasuke with flames on the background from a panel (that's enough proof ). I will think differently if the image was of a smiling twelve year old Sasuke but that's not the case. Sakura hasn't said anything of still loving Sasuke, she said in 470 that she doesn't love him anymore, however not caring for him is a different story. She hasn't stop caring for him as a friend, and former teammate as the boy who used to be her crush. She is conflicted because of her bond to him just like Naruto and it's not easy to severe those bonds, even Sasuke himself is having problems with that.

But I will believe her words from 459 as the ultimate truth to her character. She doesn't want to make another mistake, then she said she doesn't love Sasuke anymore, but she lied in saying that she didn't care for him anymore (loving-caring). And then her words to Naruto from 469 how she feels for him (reminding again she doesn't want to make another mistake). Followed by Kishi's words that he thought he was making an honest girl surprisingly stubborn. I highly believe she doesn't love Sasuke anymore because through her actions we see who is the person most important to her. Can Kishi make it anymore obvious who Sakura truly loves? In this upcoming movie he might give the most obvious hint (even after all the hints and parallels he has given in his manga).

I understand where you're coming from, but it's just that 540 threw me for a loop.

[Don-kun]

So, are you saying that Lee's feelings for her, once she realized he was sincere, boosted her self esteem to the point that she could now see Naruto's feelings for her more accurately? I can see that - if that is what you're trying to get at.

You're right - Sakura had every right to get pissed at Naruto for saying what he did, and she still gets angry with him when he acts immature/rude to others (though he obviously getting better, and Sakura's been laying off of him as a result). I find it funny when people get so angry at the claim that Naruto needs Sakura to keep him in line, when its been shown multiple times that Sakura is a positive influence on his reckless behavior (I think immediately of the times when Sai got Naruto seeing red, and Sakura was able to get Naruto to calm down by just saying his name).

Like you said, I just misunderstood what you were saying.

Still, there are still two things that bother me about the notion of Sakura being cognizant of her feelings for Naruto so early on. If she was, as you say, then why:
1) was Sakura so shocked when Yamato talked about the strength of her feelings for Naruto?; and
2) why didn't Sakura think of Naruto when the love letter nin said, "If you love him, then he must be a great guy" --> it was said in present tense, and Naruto is a great guy, and Sakura knows that; if she were consciously in love with Naruto, even if she were ashamed of once being in love with Sasuke (who is definitely not a great guy), why wouldn't she then afterwards think of Naruto?

Keep in mind I'm not making the argument that Sakura isn't in love with Naruto --> I just think that she's not cognizant of the nature of those feelings, while you do. I respect your interpretation of the manga, and if you can convince me otherwise, then I certainly wouldn't mind. Just wanted to know your thoughts on those two points.

I totaly agree with this.

One would think that someone who constantly puts you down, ignores you, slaps apples out of your hands after trying to feed them, ignore your love confession, almost run a sword through you, attempts to shoot lightning through your back and tries to cut your throat will be enough reason for you to stop loving them.


Nonetheless, it seems that Sakura's choice of Naruto over a redeemed Sasuke would be the only way it could go without making it look like Sakura chose Naruto because of an absent Sasuke.

I agree with this even more.

I have to disagree on the whole rebound thing, it annoys me when people say that Naruto is Sakura's" silver medal" because there's no such thing as a silver medal. If that's the case then I guess people are forbidden to move on from your first love and fall in love again with someone else who will be even be better than your first. Where does it say that people can't fall in love again? That they have continued loving their first love? Or are they destine to think of a relationship that's impossible or out of reach even fixing because both we're completely different people and it wasn't going to work. Sakura has already chosen who she loves, who she wants to protect from Sasuke none the less. I still highly believe she move on from Sasuke but we're assuming that she might still held feelings for him, and the only evidence we have is her thinking of of an evil Sasuke with flames on the background from a panel (that's enough proof ). I will think differently if the image was of a smiling twelve year old Sasuke but that's not the case. Sakura hasn't said anything of still loving Sasuke, she said in 470 that she doesn't love him anymore, however not caring for him is a different story. She hasn't stop caring for him as a friend, and former teammate as the boy who used to be her crush. She is conflicted because of her bond to him just like Naruto and it's not easy to severe those bonds, even Sasuke himself is having problems with that.

But I will believe her words from 459 as the ultimate truth to her character. She doesn't want to make another mistake, then she said she doesn't love Sasuke anymore, but she lied in saying that she didn't care for him anymore (loving-caring). And then her words to Naruto from 469 how she feels for him (reminding again she doesn't want to make another mistake). Followed by Kishi's words that he thought he was making an honest girl surprisingly stubborn. I highly believe she doesn't love Sasuke anymore because through her actions we see who is the person most important to her. Can Kishi make it anymore obvious who Sakura truly loves? In this upcoming movie he might give the most obvious hint (even after all the hints and parallels he has given in his manga).

I cannot agree with this, I know Sakura has strong feelings for Naruto that goes beyong friendship I also thinks she needs another push to completely let go of her romantic affection for Sasuke. Why does she love him? Is one way to start, we still don't know what's is the real reason behind this romantic affection and the reason for her total commitment to him. If her reasons are the ones we already seen, then there is something really wrong with her, anyway we also need to see Sakura for the first time questioning her reason for loving this guy. A flash back of all the events they had, positive and negative would be a good way to start.

I'm positive that if Kishi does the realistic option Sakura will let go her romantic feelings for Sasuke, for good. Sure it would still be normal if she still wishes for him to let go of his evil path do to Kishi's unrealistic view of a dysfunctional bond that he calls unbreakable bond, but after her reflection it would be seen very awkward for her to still sustain her romantic feelings. To be honest Sasuke never made her happy, his presence maybe but Sasuke personally never tries to make her happy apart from the day hecomplemented her Genjutsu.



Another realistic scenario would be if Naruto tells her that the reason why he respected her feeling is because he realized that she really loved Sasuke and he thought that Sasuke was the only one could made her happy, but as long that she're happy, he would be happy for her to even if her happiness is not with him, that would be a perfect moment for Sakura to shut him up call him ''Baka'' and correct him it would be more realistic if she is honest with him and herself about how she really feeled for Sasuke at the time of her confession and before the confesson, then expline him that Sasuke is no longer the person she want to be with or share her loves life with anymore, tell Naruto that he's the person she really grown to love and he means a lot to her, he means a lot more than anyone else.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I have to disagree on the whole rebound thing, it annoys me when people say that Naruto is Sakura's" silver medal"

if sakura chooses naruto as a "silver medal" it would bash her character so hard that the fanbase will hate her

and plus naruto said that he will only tell her that he loves sakura when he fulfill his promise and would be sad if he says " i love u sakura" and she declines his proposition in order to be with a guy that tried to kill her 3 times.

adn we cannot forget the things he did only for her

Edited by dovahkiin, 30 May 2012 - 01:26 PM.