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#10361 DattebayoXShannaro

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:08 PM

 

Yeah, that's the debate I was talking about I was in.  It was one of the most frustrating and head shaking moments of my life.  For those who have an account on MangaFox who know of Akatsuki_Karas.  He/ she says he/her isn't a Sakura hater, yet his/her arguments reek of unfounded bias against her.

 

 

 

 

Couldn't agree more, it's a shame what this shipping war has become. We have reached a point where even the most simplistic and unmistakable aspects of the manga are subject to incessant argumentation in an attempt to prove, or disprove, something that should've been acknowledged simply by interpreting the obvious.

 

Really, it is embarrassing to have to argue about a subject evidenced so many times throughout the manga, which is Naruto love for Sakura. Everytime someone says "Naruto never said he loves Sakura" (therefore he doesn't love her), someone in the World is killed by lightning. That's why even after this likely, though unnecessary confirmation by the Obi/Rin parallel, hardly anything will change in the fandom. It's pretty much guaranteed that the shipping war will last until the very end of the series.

 

 

it's gotten so bad that if I were to ever write a fanfiction about the destructive behavior of humanity.  I would use fan and couple wars as an example.  Yes, I believe it's gotten that bad. The villain: "Human foolishness has proven to have no boundaries.  Even in works of fictions can they not keep their negative feelings in check"

 

The hero: "Come on!  Even you have to admit that's kind of a stretch"

 

The villain:  "Really, you argue about a character's validity and which characters should end up with who.  Even then, you're not above attacking each other and slander their intelligence for simply having a differing opinion."

 

The hero: "uhhh. . . not all of us are like that?"

 

 

In terms for anything ending, a sakura rin parallel establishment is possible next chapter. Since naruto is going to give obito a talk no jutsu, it's within the realm of possiblity of naruto mentioning his relation to sakura as like obitos towards rin and how he could would explain that if something happened to sakura he would be devastated, possibly even saying how she wouldn't have wanted him to follow a dark path. It's mostly going to a be we are alike speech and there's always a way back from the darkness, even naruto forgiving obito from what he did to his parents.

It's just very very possible that something ns obirin comes next chapter if the memories naruto saw come into play I mean we know how important rin is to obitos character, sakura has been the same with naruto mainly over the promise but going between team 7 and minato, it's a similar setup both ways, even Sasuke factors into this in other ways too. I would not be suprised if naruto learns it was obito who managed to make Kakashi better.

It's not granted to happen, but if naruto confirms he still loves sakura this next chapter, that's game cause if his feelings are still there, what else should happen? I mean it's it like we would get a suprise like 631 all to soon while the battle goes on I mean 631s event was predictable considering 630 ended with minato in front of naruto and sakura, that was very possible they would talk and some like me said that something could happen to make minato think of Kushina and well, look what happened the morning 631 came out, it was a meltdown to those against ns to the point forums had to be locked down due to the outrage some people voiced at that small moment and to another degree ns fans that were guilty of doing the same actions nh fans did in 615. Well I'm still upset that forums let nh boasting get out of hand but only acted on the ns stuff. Seriously if 652 has a naruto saying he loves sakura event, that's it, game over. People cannot say he's referring to the past before 469 or he's getting obito to let his guard down, no. If naruto says he loves sakura, he loves sakura.

It's that simple, it would just be more of a flow from kushinas foreshadow to 631 to the future. If we have a naruto saying he loves sakura moment, what else is there to go on? Naruto stating he still loves her combined with Sakura's changing outlook on Sasuke, what is the purpose of it all if not to go towards something in the end?

 

I agree, that if Naruto confirms his feelings again in the next couple of chapters.  No one can deny it anymore.  For one thing, we were never even given a hint that his feelings even changed, that was all fan interpretation.  If there is actually confirmation from Naruto himself.  No one can deny his feelings anymore, out of wanting him to be with someone else.  That closes the Naruto side.  Kishimoto just has to wrap of Sakura feelings and if she confirms her feelings for Naruto is love.  It's a done deal for us.  We just have to wait for them to say it to each other.

 

While I agree Naruto confirming his feelings ends all contrary speculation.  It's not a done deal unless Sakura confirms the same, in my opinion.  However, it will close the door ever more slightly on fanbase opinion.


Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 24 October 2013 - 06:20 PM.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:25 PM

 

it's gotten so bad that if I were to ever write a fanfiction about the destructive behavior of humanity.  I would use fan and couple wars as an example.  Yes, I believe it's gotten that bad. The villain: "Human foolishness has proven to have no boundaries.  Even in works of fictions can they not keep their negative feelings in check"

 

The hero: "Come on!  Even you have to admit that's kind of a stretch"

 

The villain:  "Really, you argue about a characters validity and which characters should end up with who.  Even then, you're not above attacking each other and slander their intelligence for simple having a differing opinion."

 

The hero: "uhhh. . . not all of us are like that?"

 

:lmao: That's so true.

 

Yes,, If naruto is shown( to NH) that he still loves Sakura. Nh has no chance.

 

Found this review on Sakura's confession.

 

 

 

I mostly agree with their assessment, but I can't quite make sense of this part: 

 

"Sadly, the more she talks, the more she digs herself into a hole that will keep him at a distance. She has made the keys realizations that Naruto is always there, always by her side, while Sasuke was truthful about everything when he left and every encounter since then. But Naruto doesn't want to win her over in this way in the slightest."

 

Can you explain what exactly this person means here, Baka chan?



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:11 PM

I'm not entirely sure(correct me if I'm wrong), but I don't think we're allowed to post threads from other forums.

 

And what's the point really? Do you want me to facepalm with you?


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 07:31 PM

You know, random thought but I just woke up and thought:

 

Ever noticed that anime add or create a Naruto->Sakura, Sakura->Naruto, Sakura->Sasuke, Naruto->Sasuke and Sasuke->Naruto moment(s)/sceanrio(s), but no Sasuke->Sakura? I don't think there is one at all. I always noticed that the anime likes to have Sasuke to be centered with Itachi and Naruto. In fact, did you know the latest ova has only Itachi and Naruto for Sasuke's centric story? Heck, even in manga is doing that. So, shouldn't this be a sign, not just from anime, but in general?



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 07:33 PM

You know, random thought but I just woke up and thought:

 

Ever noticed that anime add or create a Naruto->Sakura, Sakura->Naruto, Sakura->Sasuke, Naruto->Sasuke and Sasuke->Naruto moment(s)/sceanrio(s), but no Sasuke->Sakura? I don't think there is one at all. I always noticed that the anime likes to have Sasuke to be centered with Itachi and Naruto. In fact, did you know the latest ova has only Itachi and Naruto for Sasuke's centric story? Heck, even in manga is doing that. So, shouldn't this be a sign, not just from anime, but in general?

Because he never showed off an scenarion on the manga which could imply that he may have "hidden" feelings for her romantically speaking, they cant work on something doesnt exist.

 

Okay just remembered of Hinata's healing powers my bad.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:03 PM

:lmao: That's so true.

 

 

I mostly agree with their assessment, but I can't quite make sense of this part: 

 

"Sadly, the more she talks, the more she digs herself into a hole that will keep him at a distance. She has made the keys realizations that Naruto is always there, always by her side, while Sasuke was truthful about everything when he left and every encounter since then. But Naruto doesn't want to win her over in this way in the slightest."

 

Can you explain what exactly this person means here, Baka chan?

I think they meant that Naruto realize something was up when she started to talk about not going after Sasuke. Bolded: Idk about that part.



 


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:04 PM

Because he never showed off an scenarion on the manga which could imply that he may have "hidden" feelings for her romantically speaking, they cant work on something doesnt exist.
 
Okay just remembered of Hinata's healing powers my bad.

Lol sorry for that reminder.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 09:55 PM

 

While I do respect some of Naruto's traits (his determination and joy) I would rather never in my life act like him. Not that I can't be silly from time to time, but not Naruto's type of silly.

 

But now that you've mention it I think that fact is an excuse haters use to bash NS fans. They claim the guys simply see themselves in Naruto and want NS to happen because we were rejected by a real life "Sakura" so we want to compensate with the story.

 

While rejection is part of life I haven't had any drama of a long standing unrequited crush (I move on rather fine, plenty of good girls in the world) so I've never had any "Sakura" to dealt with. Don't know about the others.

 

Huh, its funny who is tossing the bolded part.. cause there will be much rebound in another pairing.. But that's just me..

 

What I'm surprised of is that it is considered confirmed. 631 is a joke, 632 proves it. :unsure: It's alright to interpretate, but acting like you have evidence when you do not have will only bite you in the back.

 

And no, it's not off-topic. The debate thread is an all-around topic thread, nothing is oft actually ! :excited:

 

maybe one..I'm 18 today : D

 

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 11:15 PM

 

It's actually kind of funny that you mention having friends who consider themselves asexual, me and my sister (who's three years younger than me) have never desired to pursue romantic relationships even though girls around us that are around our ages are already having babies and getting married (very often in that order). And people tend to treat us like we're 'not normal' or 'just going through a phase'. :facepalm: I think it's quite interesting to hear there are other people who do feel the same way, and that we aren't the only ones. And yeah, one's reaction it the label is definitely highly subjective, I don't like it, but my sister probably wouldn't care.

 

Also, I think there are different kinds/levels/manifestations of asexuality as an orientation.  There are those who are asexual and completely aromantic, and there are those who are asexual but absolutely want a "romantic" life partner and as such individuals whose orientation is asexual will get together, get married but won't have sex because they have no desire for it (they might have other physical activity, hugging/cuddling, making out it all depends).  I'm sorry if this is offensive, I'm honestly not trying to box anyone, I just find human/mammal/animal sexuality fascinating.  (For instance, you know how it's often considered attractive/sexy when a woman curves her back?  Obviously we assume that that's because it results in a woman pushing her buttocks backwards and her breasts forwards, and I suppose that's true...but, but, but...that...which is known as lordosis behavior or mammalian lordosis is actually typical mammalian mating behavior that's seen across various mammals including felines, hyaenidae (which is difficult for them), rodents, canines, boars, primates (including humans)...soooo interesting).

 

Anyway, to get back on topic, speaking of Sasuke's sexuality...I know it's not appropriate to use filler as evidence, but it's pretty interesting I think that while all the alternatives had different personalities they seemed to retain their "real world" romantic interests, but Sasuke wasn't asexual.  It seems that his indifference in the real Narutoverse isn't meant to be an orientation but more of a disinterest and I'm not sure that mere disinterest (and interest in other things) would actually be considered asexuality by individuals who identify themselves as asexual.



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 11:41 PM

You know, random thought but I just woke up and thought:

 

Ever noticed that anime add or create a Naruto->Sakura, Sakura->Naruto, Sakura->Sasuke, Naruto->Sasuke and Sasuke->Naruto moment(s)/sceanrio(s), but no Sasuke->Sakura? I don't think there is one at all. I always noticed that the anime likes to have Sasuke to be centered with Itachi and Naruto. In fact, did you know the latest ova has only Itachi and Naruto for Sasuke's centric story? Heck, even in manga is doing that. So, shouldn't this be a sign, not just from anime, but in general?

 

What is this OVA you're talking about? When did it came out? Do you have a link?



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 11:56 PM

 
What is this OVA you're talking about? When did it came out? Do you have a link?

Here:

It's early morning in the Uchiha district, and we see the inside of Sasuke's home (in the garden there's a chicken).
We are shown Itachi's figure from the neck down.
For some reason he's in his Akatsuki clothes, tying up a (frilly) Akatsuki apron.
He puts the bread in the toaster splendidly and puts the kettle on.
He takes out the eggs from the fridge, pours some oil in the frying pan and cracks the eggs magnificently.
He puts the lid on the frying pan (until now, he was using the sharingan).
He opens the lid and chuckles at the perfect sunny-side-up fried eggs.
But if you look closely, there are some fragments of egg shells in the yolk.
In the meantime, the toasts were also burned.
He puts the sunny-side-up fried eggs on a plate and washes the pan.
He tries to remake the sunny-side-up fried eggs - starting from the moment when he wears the Akatsuki clothes for some reason.
But this time the yolk breaks up.
Then, Itachi's (shiny) sweat gets in.
They turn into scrambled eggs - but they are so burned that he can't peel them off the pan.
He begins to prepare Chinese-style fried rice in a wok.
Sasuke wakes up. He comes down into the living room.
He sighs at the sunny-side-up fried eggs placed all over the floor.

Itachi: "Sasuke, is that you?"
Sasuke: "Yes."
Itachi: "You're eating sunny-side-up fried eggs, aren't you?"
Sasuke: "Sure, I guess."
Sasuke is about to casually pick up one of the sunny-side-up fried eggs at his feet.
Itachi: "Don't touch those!"
Sasuke: "...!?"
Itachi: "I'll be sure to make you eat some perfect sunny-side-up fried eggs!"
Sasuke waits obediently.

(From this point on I'm not sure of the chronological order.)

Itachi's mangekyou sharingan appears at the center of the sunny-side-up fried eggs on the floor.
The room becomes a sort of horror-like vacuum.
Sasuke's pupils go back and forth.
In the end, Itachi has used up all the eggs.
No matter how many times he looks in the fridge, there aren't any more eggs.
At that moment, the chicken in the garden runs in front of Itachi's eyes.
Itachi runs after the chicken.
He talks a little with Sasuke (sorry, I was laughing so hard that I forgot what they were saying).
Itachi gets the eggs safely.
At this point, he's somehow in anbu clothes.
He prepares the sunny-side-up fried eggs (incidentally, they are twin eggs).
He removes the shells splendidly with a kunai.
He dries off the (shiny) moisture by blowing on it.
The perfect sunny-side-up fried eggs are complete.
For some reason, Sasuke is gazing intently at the mangekyou sharingans all over the floor.
Itachi brings the fried eggs to Sasuke and sits across from him.
Itachi: "Well, eat up. I cooked these for you."
Sasuke eats them with a knife and a fork.
He chews.
Itachi: "How are they?"
Sasuke: "Uuuum, not very good..."
Itachi pokes his forehead and seems to be thinking something along the lines of 'You little brat...'.
Sasuke doesn't seem altogether displeased either.
At this point, while they are flirting in front of 700 people (the audience, I presume), there is a black out.
The scene changes to a (desert?).
Sasuke is sleeping in the shade of a tree.
He gets poked in the forehead by someone, and opens his eyes.
Sasuke: "Ouch... was it a dream..."
For some reason, in front of him there is Naruto.
Sasuke asks him something along the lines of "Why are you here?".
Naruto: "Let's go back to our battlefield. That is also Itachi's will."
Naruto starts to run, and Sasuke runs after him.
They hear a sizzling sound.
The sand at Sasuke's feet becomes a (sorry, I can't understand the word).
The sand turns into the yolk of fried eggs.
Naruto and Sasuke are standing on some huge sunny-side-up fried eggs.
When they turn around, the blue sky has turned into a mysterious vacuum.
Then, a huge Itachi appears.
Exactly, Naruto and Sasuke were standing on Itachi's frying pan.

Sunny-side battle, the end.

Seems to be a gag/comedy type thing. The OVA doesn't come out on DVD until December so it won't be subbed until then. Here are some pictures:
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Posted 25 October 2013 - 12:24 AM

^Thank you.

 

 

What is this OVA you're talking about? When did it came out? Do you have a link?

I can't do it since it's not on video, but yeah, the above post did it. It's strange Pierrot at its finest. Not sure that's a compliment.



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 02:35 AM

Also, I think there are different kinds/levels/manifestations of asexuality as an orientation.  There are those who are asexual and completely aromantic, and there are those who are asexual but absolutely want a "romantic" life partner and as such individuals whose orientation is asexual will get together, get married but won't have sex because they have no desire for it (they might have other physical activity, hugging/cuddling, making out it all depends).  I'm sorry if this is offensive, I'm honestly not trying to box anyone, I just find human/mammal/animal sexuality fascinating.  (For instance, you know how it's often considered attractive/sexy when a woman curves her back?  Obviously we assume that that's because it results in a woman pushing her buttocks backwards and her breasts forwards, and I suppose that's true...but, but, but...that...which is known as lordosis behavior or mammalian lordosis is actually typical mammalian mating behavior that's seen across various mammals including felines, hyaenidae (which is difficult for them), rodents, canines, boars, primates (including humans)...soooo interesting).

 

Anyway, to get back on topic, speaking of Sasuke's sexuality...I know it's not appropriate to use filler as evidence, but it's pretty interesting I think that while all the alternatives had different personalities they seemed to retain their "real world" romantic interests, but Sasuke wasn't asexual.  It seems that his indifference in the real Narutoverse isn't meant to be an orientation but more of a disinterest and I'm not sure that mere disinterest (and interest in other things) would actually be considered asexuality by individuals who identify themselves as asexual.

 

For what it's worth, I saw my psychiatrist last night (I have to go weekly as part of my chronic pain therapy program) and I asked him about asexuality.  He said it's quite uncommon, less than 1% of the population, and that you're "more likely to know a schizophrenic than someone who meets the clinical definition of asexual."  
 
Conversely, he went on to say that it's not uncommon for people to incorrectly self-identify as asexual, either due to misunderstanding the definition or for the purpose of masking other sexuality issues they can't/won't confront or wish to hide from others.  One other point he made was that the debate rages within the psychiatric/behavioral science community as to whether asexuality is an orientation, but there's been more research into the question in recent years.
 
Don't know if that means anything to anyone, but I thought it was interesting.  It was funny, too, because I told him I'd been defending the possibility that one of the manga characters was asexual, and he said, "Really?  Which one?"  (He knows I read Naruto.)  I said, "Sasuke."  His response was then, "That's interesting."
 
That was it, though, because by then my time was up.   :mellow:


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 04:18 AM

Here:
Seems to be a gag/comedy type thing. The OVA doesn't come out on DVD until December so it won't be subbed until then. Here are some pictures:
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What did I just read? Why is Itachi so fixated on those damn sunny-side up eggs? :lmao:

 

It seems Sasuke messed around too much with Orochimaru's poisons and now he's in some weird drug fueled hallucination. :argh:



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 04:46 AM

 

What did I just read? Why is Itachi so fixated on those damn sunny-side up eggs? :lmao:

 

It seems Sasuke messed around too much with Orochimaru's poisons and now he's in some weird drug fueled hallucination. :argh:

Lol. That's one way to put it. :lol: 


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:01 AM

KnS, that is really interesting, though I think it's a bit problematic to deny someone who self-identifies as asexual.  I understand your psychiatrists perspective, but...I don't know...I'm a bit uncomfortable with that...you know??



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 06:22 AM

I suppose I take a different view of this sort of thing.  If someone believes they are asexual, or wants to believe it because it's easier than believing something else that might be more confusing or painful, they are certainly free to do so.  
 
However, just because a person holds such a belief or chooses a label for themselves doesn't mean they have self-evaluated correctly in clinical terms, or that their desire to self-identify in a given way is necessarily healthy for them.  It depends upon their private feelings and motivation for the identification -- which only they know.  Assuming they actually do know, right?
 
If the numbers indicate that true asexuality is relatively rare, logic dictates that some if not many individuals who self-identify as such are mistaken, deflecting, or seeking an authoritative explanation for their behavior.  I'm definitely not advocating "denying" anyone their preferred style or label of personhood; it's none of my business, and I certainly wouldn't want some layman telling me who or what I am.  
 
At the same time, though, blanket acceptance of a prevalent form of self-identification -- when statistics don't support it and it may be a cover for a deeper issue -- is also uncomfortable.  I would never question a stranger, but I would question a friend if they chose to raise the subject with me.
 
If you're interested in chatting more, sent me a message.  I'd love it.  Otherwise, we'd better get back to topic before we get kicked off the forum.   :shifty:


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 04:53 AM

There is a little mistake, the raw says だって not だった (but that doesn't interfere with anything)

 

Dang it. I still don't like this idea, but well. You can't always win.

 

@Morgaine

 

No problem. About debates, actually I'm not discrediting the validity of a proper discussion. In fact, to question other people's arguments what usually leads to a debate is something very good, it is healthy, it makes us exercise our minds to not simply accept what you are being told without considering it logically first. But some extremist fans, as you've mentioned, love to rely on double standards and usually don't think twice before attacking you personally instead of the idea you are defending. And unfortunately this kind of behavior is very common around the Naruto fandom since some fans rather want to debate with their emotions instead of their brain. 

 

Anyway, sorry for the late reply. Been a little busy with some stuff.


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 04:56 AM

Hi, I’d like to talk about something that I noted some weeks ago.

 

So, I was reading a book about Japanese culture, and it was saying that in Japan and Orientals country in general, the conception of time in several arts is different to them than it is to us Occidentals. In Japan, their conception is that everything is constantly repeating itself “like the 4 seasons cycle”. That’s exactly what the books said.

 

So here, I wonder if this doesn’t mean that all theses parallel in the overall série (Naruto/Sasuke, Naruto-Sasuke/Hashirama-Madara, Team 7/Team Minato, Team 7/Team Sarutobi…) are not more than what people think. It would really engrave itself in the Japanese culture and traditional conception of art. Because, really if we think about it, those parallel can easily be seen as cycle repeating themselves. Even Kishimoto uses this term to define “The Cycle of Hate” during the fight against Pain. So if, this parallel do are cycles and that it’s engrave itself in the Japanese culture, these parallel do are important. And all those people who says that we are desperate to believe in the impact of those parallels, well they are the desperate ones, or in denial, or they just doesn’t understand Kishimoto’s work. (don’t know why, but I would tend to choose the last option)

 

And even without that information about Japanese culture, you don’t have to know it to remark that there are “parallel” everywhere in the manga, so of course there are important, they just says that because there is no Hinata in those parallel and that the only characters that are involved in are the team 7 members, and I’m sure that they know Naruto is meant to break those cycle, and in the love department, it’s clear that he will break it without Hinata being involved, so you know what that means

 

Also, a little something about RTN:

 

For those who are interested, I bought the RTN DVD, and in the collector edition, there was the little book with Chie Nakamura and Junko Takeuchi’s interview. And it looks like Junko has a better apprehension of Sakura’s development than her own voice actor, because when Chie said that she thought that if Sakura was in RTN, the only girl who Sasuke was trying to seduce, then she would surely want to stay in this world and then, Junko said something like “I’m not sure of that…”, like no, Sakura-chan is not that shallow anymore. To be honest, I was kind of disappointed to read what Chie Nakamura said, after all the development Sakura had benefited to not be the little girl obsessed by Sasuke anymore, saying that is really out of place. I’m not even sure if the past Sakura would have reacted like Chie said, Sakura has always be an intelligent girl, able to distinct what is the right thing to do. I’m sure she would have come to the right choice sooner or later, even if Sasuke was really “in love” with her in this world. And if not, then it would show even more that her feelings for him are shallows, because it wouldn’t be the true Sasuke. 


Edited by 咲耶姫, 26 October 2013 - 04:57 AM.

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 10:25 AM

@咲耶姫

 

So Chie said that Sakura would stay in the AU if Sasuke only seduced her? I gotta say, I'm a little disappointed too. I thought that she, of all people, would have more awareness of Sakura's character given how she's been voicing her since the very beginning.

 

Then again maybe Chie said that because she's aware that Sakura is just in love with her mental image of Sasuke. It could be that instead of meaning it as "Sakura loves Sasuke soooo much that she would stay in the AU world" she meant it as "Sakura is so deluded with her mental image of Sasuke that she would stay with a false version of him in order to satisfy her own interests".

 

It could be Chie is aware of Sakura false idolization of Sasuke and is fed up with it. From what I remember she's the one who called Sakura selfish for her confession to Naruto in that interview with Kishimoto. It could be that Chie also wants Sakura to get over Sasuke just as much as us. That's also one way to look at it.






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