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#10361 Chatte

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 13 2013, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh boy he's going to be so disappointed. th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif I can't believe someone smart like him will deny the development NS has been given throughout the entire manga he will just over look it with only one chapter of Naruto holding Hinata's hand he will immediately claim canon. Kishi has shown us that one panel doesn't make a pairing canon, neither one confession or even any physical contact. Unless if you count it as fan service or trolling whatever you want to call it. Let him deny NS I just hope he admits he was wrong when he NS the endgame pairing.

He won't. He already said for him will be bad writing and cliche...

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Feb 13 2013, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He won't. He already said for him will be bad writing and cliche...

Bolded, he already have set up a defense for himself knowing that he'll probably lose at the end fu.png

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Feb 13 2013, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bolded, he already have set up a defense for himself knowing that he'll probably lose at the end fu.png

Exactly my thoughts wink.gif

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Feb 13 2013, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bolded, he already have set up a defense for himself knowing that he'll probably lose at the end fu.png

Then what does that say about our fandom? That's the first thing we claimed when 615 happened.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:24 PM

I just think I'll feel relieved that I wouldn't bother with sticking my tongue out to the others. At the present time I'm not so confident about NaruSaku, so if it does happen I'll simply be grateful and enjoy it without the hating. Which really is the best way to go anyway. There is such a thing called sore winners.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:25 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 13 2013, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh boy he's going to be so disappointed. th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif I can't believe someone smart like him will deny the development NS has been given throughout the entire manga he will just over look it with only one chapter of Naruto holding Hinata's hand he will immediately claim canon. Kishi has shown us that one panel doesn't make a pairing canon, neither one confession or even any physical contact. Unless if you count it as fan service or trolling whatever you want to call it. Let him deny NS I just hope he admits he was wrong when he NS the endgame pairing.


Many people lost faith in NS because of Chapter 540. like i said many times over, Kishi was just trolling just to throw us off for good reasons wink.gif .

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:25 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Feb 14 2013, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then what does that say about our fandom? That's the first thing we claimed when 615 happened.

I'll put it simply. Our pairing has strong hints, facts, moments, etc that has two characters showing it, it's more than just mere development. NH is just about Hinata, there's nothing from Naruto.

Edited by T XD, 13 February 2013 - 08:29 PM.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:29 PM

I'm worried that NS won't be canon due to all the NH moments thats been happening recently as well as there being no NS interaction at all for a long time. The last thing Sakura said about naruto was in 573 when she said that they would be together this time, but i'm not sure if that was meant romantically or not.

Also Sakura was there when Hinata was holding Naruto's hand and she saw how much hinata feels about naruto, would that stop sakura developing romantic feelings for naruto anymore? I hope not but it's makes me worry about NS in the future.. shamefulcry0js.gif

I have a small creeping feeling that NH and SS might still be the endgame due to Sasuke looking like his resolve to destroy the hidden leaf is slighly weakening. Maybe this could be the beggining of Sasuke's redemption? if he did go back to the leaf village i'm sure sakura would choase sasuke over naruto



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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:31 PM

We should stop talking about what will happen when / if NaruSaku becoming canon ... This can bring bad luck! arg.gif

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:31 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Feb 13 2013, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll put it simply. Our pairing has strong hints, facts, moments, etc that has two characters showing it. NH is just about Hinata, there's nothing from Naruto.

I agree. happy.gif
I just think it's humorous that we're taking a jab at Sawyer for voicing the same complaint that we had when 615 was released. Really, the bad writing excuse is a matter of perspective. To us, NH is bad writing because it lacks development. To them, NS is bad writing for an entirely different reason.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:39 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Feb 14 2013, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree. happy.gif
I just think it's humorous that we're taking a jab at Sawyer for voicing the same complaint that we had when 615 was released. Really, the bad writing excuse is a matter of perspective. To us, NH is bad writing because it lacks development. To them, NS is bad writing for an entirely different reason.

You're right XD. Their perspective on NS is different.

Plus, I think many of them follow each other opinion, and go with the flow.

Edited by T XD, 13 February 2013 - 08:41 PM.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:42 PM

TBH kishi can do whatever he wants but dident he say long ago that hinata was naruto's endgame in the old series time when it was still oldschool not shipuden of naruto i dont know if this is true mabey some of you can confirm this for me i heard it so you know:P

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:43 PM

Dunno why but I am more confident than never that NS is going to happen, lol.
I was thinking with that piece of hair on Naruto's shoulders every time she gets close to him...Dunno why it always leads me to that "Red thread of fate" things as it's all explained how it became like that because of her hair.
As well, Sakura made her choice as explained by Sai. It's Naruto. And I think this will be the final choice no matter what. Naruto has to make a choice as well. As in, confess to her and it's deal.
Sasuke's redemption in my opinion won't change much...

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Feb 13 2013, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
TBH kishi can do whatever he wants but dident he say long ago that hinata was naruto's endgame in the old series time when it was still oldschool not shipuden of naruto i dont know if this is true mabey some of you can confirm this for me i heard it so you know:P


Say what? Well, if that would be true, it will mean it would've been confirmed in the manga.
Plus, he would've made Road to Ninja with Hinata, don't you think?
Kishi's intentions are so bluntly obvious to me right now, at least in this matter, that I don't really know how to call it anymore...

Edited by Chatte, 13 February 2013 - 08:45 PM.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Feb 13 2013, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a small creeping feeling that NH and SS might still be the endgame due to Sasuke looking like his resolve to destroy the hidden leaf is slighly weakening. Maybe this could be the beggining of Sasuke's redemption? if he did go back to the leaf village i'm sure sakura would choase sasuke over naruto

Well after this chapter for me it killed off any chances of NH or SS happening this chapter showed that Kishi dont have any problems with cliche, Shodaime and Tobirama reminded me of Goku and Vegeta relationship.

THe story keeps repeating itself the constant abuse of stereotypes Shodaime being a guy like Naruto,Goku,Luffy and other typical shounen heroes, and their wives being tsunderes pretty much spoils the ending it will be cliche.
Tobirama could be like Sasuke on the future, a cold guy with no friends but a determined will that is able to even do wrong things in order to achieve an objective.
The NH claims that NS being canon is bad writing because it's cliche but complaining about cliche on Naruto is completely retarded when the story is full of it.

The plot repeating itself over and over again and for those who think that Sasuke will give up on destroying the village are completely wrong despite being an asspull he will still have this desire and like even shodaime said he will be like Madara again but both Madara and Sasuke, their stories havent come to an end, so it's likely that Madara will be redeemed first and then at the ending it will be Sasuke.

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Feb 13 2013, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
TBH kishi can do whatever he wants but dident he say long ago that hinata was naruto's endgame in the old series time when it was still oldschool not shipuden of naruto i dont know if this is true mabey some of you can confirm this for me i heard it so you know:P

He never talked about couples the only thing he said that he only planned one pairing to be canon if i remember.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 13 February 2013 - 08:48 PM.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Feb 13 2013, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm worried that NS won't be canon due to all the NH moments thats been happening recently as well as there being no NS interaction at all for a long time. The last thing Sakura said about naruto was in 573 when she said that they would be together this time, but i'm not sure if that was meant romantically or not.

Also Sakura was there when Hinata was holding Naruto's hand and she saw how much hinata feels about naruto, would that stop sakura developing romantic feelings for naruto anymore? I hope not but it's makes me worry about NS in the future.. shamefulcry0js.gif

I have a small creeping feeling that NH and SS might still be the endgame due to Sasuke looking like his resolve to destroy the hidden leaf is slighly weakening. Maybe this could be the beggining of Sasuke's redemption? if he did go back to the leaf village i'm sure sakura would choase sasuke over naruto

All I can say is be patient. Here's the thing, there's just way too many pointing to NaruSaku in more ways than one. If you actually felt the pain from chapter 615, then 616 is the cure. There hasn't been any suggestions at all that Naruto has changed his feelings. When the alliance arrived, it was all about his friends will always be there to help and he won't end that bond, even in afterlife. That was the whole point and message received. What's next? That we have to wait. And don't you think it's coincidence that Sakura didnt show up and yet we are back to Sasuke as a break from the real battle, now that Obito and Madara is out of control of the beast. Think about it.

Let's face it: Sasuke will be redeemed by the end. He will be one of, if not the final battle of the manga. There's no room for any SS. There will be one but it's more of ending Sakura's situation as Sasuke has no indication of love. Sakura is undergoing through changes and it's being supported by the fact other characters are going as well. Sakura is all about changing. Naruto is about achieving your destiny, no matter how hard the battle is. For the record, come on, you know better than I do that Sakura won't chase for Sasuke. To be honest, even if she loves him, do we think she will have a shot? Honestly, I think she is more worried about the fact Sasuke has gone too far and he's from Team 7, which is a family to her. Sakura is matured enough to know that. Remember, she went after him because Naruto was feeling too much pain. I wish I can explain more but I got to go. I hope someone can fill me in.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Feb 13 2013, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
TBH kishi can do whatever he wants but dident he say long ago that hinata was naruto's endgame in the old series time when it was still oldschool not shipuden of naruto i dont know if this is true mabey some of you can confirm this for me i heard it so you know:P


I never heard something like that honestly...

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:50 PM

Yeah i guess you guys are right. To me it all seems to be on a knifes edge at the moment it really could go either way. The number 1 thing worrying me is just the lack of any NS moments at all, not even general conversations. Yeah i can understand its war but it wasn't Sakura trying to snap Naruto out of his breakdown just after neji died which kind of sucked tbh.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:51 PM

Yeah she's still thinking at Sasuke but knowing her as she always doesn't know what to do...however, when the situation is all...how should I call it, unexpected, she acts genuinely all protective and doesn't have a problem to raise her voice at Sasuke if that means it's hurting Naruto. This page here ...Aah, the feels:



That glare at Sasuke FOR Naruto says a lot. She didn't have any time to think about it, she just acted from pure basic instinct...

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:52 PM

[quote name='Arachnia' date='Feb 13 2013, 12:42 PM' post='438038']
TBH kishi can do whatever he wants but dident he say long ago that hinata was naruto's endgame in the old series time when it was still oldschool not shipuden of naruto i dont know if this is true mabey some of you can confirm this for me i heard it so you know:P

I have have a hard time believing this if kishi wanted naruhina together then why not develop it in the early shippuden chapters. Not only that but make naruto take hinatas confession seriously and the hand holding thing more seriously. These days it feels more like a ship tease. headscratch.gif

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:55 PM

Also, funny how Naruto was called an outsider like his mother, and Sakura defends him when she hears that like Minato did with Kushina. Coincidence much? And they say Sakura has no parallel with Minato.
I have to LOL.

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