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[tricksie]

 

I was talking about the last chapter where sakura was blushing while touching the lips and forehead

This was obviously romantic so what i meant to say is; kishimoto is showing th  SS romance even if it's just from sakura side for now (I think we are going to see sasuke side romantic in the next chapters considering what kishimoto said in the last pages)

 

 

But in the panel before, Sakura was frowning and looking sad, like she obviously couldn't remember. So every reaction is shown there: romantic if you want to see romantic, unloved if you want to see unloved.

 

There's also the camp that sees Naruto's words — the bit about 'nothing else matters but the way you feel, not facts not rules, just feelings' — as a subtle reference by Kishimoto that for all Naruto's supportive behavior of Sakura and Sarada, where Sasuke has been ambivalent at best, Naruto's feelings for Sakura deep down might still be strong, no matter all the facts and reasoning against it.

 

Again, this all depends on what you want to see. Actions, like in Naruto's case? Or words, like in Sasuke's case with him occasionally calling her wife? (And that only when Naruto's actively pursuing her and being pissed off at Sasuke about it.)

 

My opinion is that neither Sasuke nor Naruto are showing a great deal of love for the ones they should care about. Or for the ones we'd hope they'd care about. I don't see how any ship could be happy about this series. There's evidence to support any ship you want to see. Kishimoto's basically writing something to pander to everyone (AGAIN!) and none of it points to one clear pairing being healthy or mutually supportive. Except for Naruto's support of Sarada and thereby Sakura. (But even that's a stretch because honestly how close can you be with someone you're not even on a first name basis on. "Just call me The Seventh"? wtf? Is this the first time she's even met Naruto too?)

 

The one left out in the dark here is Sakura. Sasuke's never home and Naruto doesn't care enough to keep up with what's going on in his bff's very hard life as a single mom. Both her teammates have turned out to be duds.

[Catra]

some gutsy ninja art made me feel a little better

http://orig11.devian...y_pokefreak.jpg

 

seeing this naruto makes me proud. like future gohan, adult rudolph and adult simba.

[RedFaction]

some gutsy ninja art made me feel a little better

http://orig11.devian...y_pokefreak.jpg

 

seeing this naruto makes me proud. like future gohan, adult rudolph and adult simba.

Agreed.

 

The Naruto that Jiraiya wrote in his novel was an actual hero. Too bad we got stuck with the loser Naruto.

[Catra]

Agreed.

 

The Naruto that Jiraiya wrote in his novel was an actual hero.

was he? what did he do?

[RedFaction]

was he? what did he do?

Well I don't know much about what he did exactly, since that novel was never translated to english. But, it has been said that the novel is sort of like an autobiography for Jiraiya, so if that's the case then I'd consider the Naruto from that novel a lot more of a hero than the Naruto in the main story.

Edited by RedFaction, 22 June 2015 - 03:22 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

was he? what did he do?

For starters, he kept his character.

[Catra]

For starters, he kept his character.

i meant what did he do in the story that made him worthy of being called a hero?

[Hatted]

 

But in the panel before, Sakura was frowning and looking sad, like she obviously couldn't remember. So every reaction is shown there: romantic if you want to see romantic, unloved if you want to see unloved.

 

There's also the camp that sees Naruto's words — the bit about 'nothing else matters but the way you feel, not facts not rules, just feelings' — as a subtle reference by Kishimoto that for all Naruto's supportive behavior of Sakura and Sarada, where Sasuke has been ambivalent at best, Naruto's feelings for Sakura, deep down, are still strong, no matter all the facts and reasoning against it.

 

Again, this all depends on what you want to see. Actions, like in Naruto's case? Or words, like in Sasuke's case with him occasionally calling her wife? (And that only when Naruto's actively pursuing her and being pissed off at Sasuke about it.)

 

My opinion is that neither Sasuke nor Naruto are showing a great deal of love for the ones they should care about. Or for the ones we'd hope they'd care about. I don't see how any ship could be happy about this series. There's evidence to support any ship you want to see. Kishimoto's basically writing something to pander to everyone (AGAIN!) and none of it points to one clear pairing being healthy or mutually supportive.

Except for Naruto's support of Sarada and thereby Sakura. (But even that's a stretch because honestly how close can you be with someone you're not even on a first name basis on. "Just call me The Seventh"? wtf? Is this the first time she's even met Naruto too?)

 

The one left out in the dark here is Sakura. Sasuke's never home and Naruto doesn't care enough to keep up with what's going on in his bff's very hard life as a single mom. Both her teammates have turned out to be duds.

I am not going to answer because I don't know very much about ingles 

yeah sakura seemed sad but her also was blushing in this panel So this can be interpreted like; sakura really don't can remember the kiss or she was just being sad because sasuke was far from home 

Kishimoto's basically writing something to pander to everyone 

 

i don't get this, sakura almost don't interacted with naruto in the chapters, and the only time her says something about he is dear friend

Except for Naruto's support of Sarada and thereby Sakura

 

naruto is going to be sarada's master in the movie so this is kinda a relationship between master and teacher (just like kakashi  and sasuke)

[FireFox]

SS Romance !? LOL Is that why Sakura had that "sad/embarrassed" expresion on her face about the kiss crap !? Context anyone !? .  I'm sorry but Sakura acting pathetic with BWS calling eacother husbando & waifu isn't gonna cut it  especially when their "daughter" questions the nature of that said marriage  and called it crap for legit reasons bc guess what  she can't explain it herself  bc he wasn't there for 12 years , she knows nothing about her "husbando" not even if he had glasses  . On the other hand Sasuke doesn't even botter to conntact them despite having the option to do so with his freaking cell  Oh and apparently he had a baby with another woman named Karin how about that .

 

I'm sorry but there's a difference between  "Actual Romance"  and just  "Plain Forced Bad Romance"  with OOC , and there's a big difference between "shown" and "tell"  and you can't just diacard one part but count the other , sorry but that's not how it works every action matters bc our interpretation depends on it as well as the image this story gives . All in all there's just no excuse for this bad writting .

[Narufan85]

 

But in the panel before, Sakura was frowning and looking sad, like she obviously couldn't remember. So every reaction is shown there: romantic if you want to see romantic, unloved if you want to see unloved.

 

There's also the camp that sees Naruto's words — the bit about 'nothing else matters but the way you feel, not facts not rules, just feelings' — as a subtle reference by Kishimoto that for all Naruto's supportive behavior of Sakura and Sarada, where Sasuke has been ambivalent at best, Naruto's feelings for Sakura deep down might still be strong, no matter all the facts and reasoning against it.

 

Again, this all depends on what you want to see. Actions, like in Naruto's case? Or words, like in Sasuke's case with him occasionally calling her wife? (And that only when Naruto's actively pursuing her and being pissed off at Sasuke about it.)

 

My opinion is that neither Sasuke nor Naruto are showing a great deal of love for the ones they should care about. Or for the ones we'd hope they'd care about. I don't see how any ship could be happy about this series. There's evidence to support any ship you want to see. Kishimoto's basically writing something to pander to everyone (AGAIN!) and none of it points to one clear pairing being healthy or mutually supportive. Except for Naruto's support of Sarada and thereby Sakura. (But even that's a stretch because honestly how close can you be with someone you're not even on a first name basis on. "Just call me The Seventh"? wtf? Is this the first time she's even met Naruto too?)

 

The one left out in the dark here is Sakura. Sasuke's never home and Naruto doesn't care enough to keep up with what's going on in his bff's very hard life as a single mom. Both her teammates have turned out to be duds.

 

I don't have anything particular to add to this at the moment, but reading your post for some reason drives home just how far this manga went off the rails. For a long time I felt like I understood where Kishi was going. That's proven to be false on my part for both the manga, and for this ill-guided spin-off about the "next gen" that really just features Team 7. Have we even seen the other half of Naruto's family yet?

[TouKen4Life3g]

i meant what did he do in the story that made him worthy of being called a hero?

He did many things, but do you remember the one where Naruto and Nagato imagine himself as the hero? That's one of them.

[Ryriena]

You're free to think what you want, i cannot change this.
 
Oh please guys don't start a discussion because of this okay ?
and I was talking about the last chapter where sakura was blushing while touching the lips and forehead
This was obviously romantic so what i meant to say is; kishimoto is showing th  SS romance even if it's just from sakura side for now (I think we are going to see sasuke side romantic in the next chapters considering what kishimoto said in the last pages)

Do you honestly believe that SS is romanticly filled, when nothing has been shown to prove that they are in this manga? Sasuke has not shown one ounce of feeling the same way to her that Sakura does to him. My father always showed some type of romantic feelings to my mom like being worried about her if she is hurt or sick, as does my mom for him, and even babies him, when he is ill. I have not seen an ounce of this between Sasuke and Sakura.

Edited by Ryriena, 22 June 2015 - 03:47 PM.

[Namikaze Clan]

 
I don't have anything particular to add to this at the moment, but reading your post for some reason drives home just how far this manga went off the rails. For a long time I felt like I understood where Kishi was going. That's proven to be false on my part for both the manga, and for this ill-guided spin-off about the "next gen" that really just features Team 7. Have we even seen the other half of Naruto's family yet?

No, Kishi's ignoring Hinata and their children. Bolt only showed up twice. I wouldn't celebrate though since they will appear in the Bolt movie

[Illnevergiveup3]

I honestly feel like Kishimoto can't bare to even draw SS and NH together, I think it hurts even him to do it lol.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I honestly feel like Kishimoto can't bare to even draw SS and NH together, I think it hurts even him to do it lol.

I think Gaiden is telling but who knows. He doesn't seem to be a fan of pairing, rather a family. If you get it.

[Bail o' Lies]

Comments on Cho cho, Himawari, & Sarada Fanart
1. I'm just waiting for Naruto's daughter to grow up and look as sexy as her mommy
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2. Poor sarada,shes flat like her motherHimawari is like a mix of weird hair narutos cheek lines hinatas face and big boob
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3.Himawari has booobs
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4. 'Nosebleeds' cant wait till shippuden series of this
5. hope sarada will get boobs too:(
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Seeing all that
ME: -sigh-
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...That is disgusting. 

 

Are we the only sane people in this fandom?

Their are the people that didn't give a kitten about pairing but they are gone now.

 

The beta males won. This is what you get.

Sadly.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

I think there's some good illustrations of Sakura, both angry (pursuing Sarada when she thinks something bad has happened to her) and maternal (with long hair, talking to a younger Sarada in their kitchen). So, surprisingly enough, there's been more storyline about Sakura when I expected Kishimoto to forget about her completely.

 

There were two Naruto panels I liked, the one a few posts above about "Let's go save your mom," and the one where he's angry and looking directly at the reader upon overhearing that Sarada might have Karin's dna instead of Sakura's.

 

But the rest of it is nonsense. I don't find it as painful to read as I thought I would after the end of the manga. Instead they all seem like fun-house mirror reflections of their old characters. Everyone's behavior is exaggerated or purposeless or retconned into oblivion. 

 

I know whatcha mean, like Sakura getting pissed just because Sarada could tell her and Sasuke's "relationship" is a mess, or Naruto just ditching Boruto when he was bringing lunch from Hinata (which is why i think that in the long run, Naruto is now unhappy with his family life, and his work is just an excuse), plus all the other BS. =/

 

HalfDemonInuyasha even told me last night on Skype, he gets the feeling with Naruto not judging Orochimaru that he'll make some kind of Faustian bargain with him, which we all know will backfire. Can't this just be some horrible Infinite Tsukuyomi nightmare and we can be put out of our misery because this is just TOO. MUCH.

[Bail o' Lies]

I'm more and more of the belief that Yahagi was the only legitimate editor and that all the ones that followed were plants placed by SP who were tasked with "guiding" Kishi the way they themselves wanted the story to go...

Remember as soon as Yahagi left the next arc was the pein arc which was overall fine but added that Hinata suicidal confession. which we were apparently now suppose to take as an act of true love despite kishi not seeming to give a kitten about it in interviews for years. And the Confession Sakura made to Naruto which kishi in interview defend for years is now the mistake, and was a false confession. We also know about editors desire to make hinata the heroine from a leak on twitter, and have apparently they have been doing it for years.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 22 June 2015 - 04:25 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Remember as soon as Yahagi left the next arc was the pein arc which was overall fine but added that Hinata suicidal confession. which we were apparently now suppose to take as an act of true love despite kishi not seeming to give a kitten about it in interviews for years. And the Confession Sakura made to Naruto which kishi in interview defend for years is now the mistake, and was a false confession. We also know about editors desire to make hinata the heroine from a leak on twitter, and have apparently they have been doing it for years.

Well, I think the cheap way to bring back the dead wasn't Yahagi's style because it's like the scale was large, only to copout greatly. Not to mention, every time Naruto say "that jutsu" it's always like Kishi has no idea what it is, so he just scraps it every time he gets to it.

[Catra]

i did laugh at naruto's reverse harem on kaguya. it was funny how everyone reacted from kaguya, to sakura, to sasuke.