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#10281 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:22 PM

You know it's sad when tumblr keeps displaying logic and blows my mind away. I remember when Mass Effect 3 was reviewed, they said ending is greatly justified. HA! Sadly, fans know more these days. I know there are fans that just eats it and thinks it's great, but we have fans that wants justice and consistent. Maybe you can call us hardcore. While people will move on, we can always critique for the topic we take upon ourselves. So I'm happy that there are fans that know story as much as I do if not more.

And that's why I stay here.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:31 PM

"Love doesn't need a reason" means, IMO, that you don't need someone to do something to love him/her. You love him/her because of who he/she is. It's touching the concept of soulmates IMO.

You meet someone, you love him/her and that's it. It could be debatable, but IMO, the idea Kishimoto gave me was this.
IMO, it's even fuelling NaruSaku, because Naruto was loving her and the fact that Hinata did things wouldn't change the love he felt for Sakura. Normally.

 


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:32 PM

Sasuke's character in a nutshell:

 

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:32 PM



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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:33 PM

You know, when it all said and done, Kakashi was the best character out of Team 7.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:34 PM

You know, when it all said and done, Kakashi was the best character out of Team 7.

Only guy who's development was spared 


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:38 PM

"Love doesn't need a reason" means, IMO, that you don't need someone to do something to love him/her. You love him/her because of who he/she is. It's touching the concept of soulmates IMO.

You meet someone, you love him/her and that's it. It could be debatable, but IMO, the idea Kishimoto gave me was this.
IMO, it's even fuelling NaruSaku, because Naruto was loving her and the fact that Hinata did things wouldn't change the love he felt for Sakura. Normally.

 

This whole "Love doesn't need a reason..." is taken too literally sometimes.

They think like anybody could fall in love with anyone without cause or reason...but that's not exactly true. If you're miserable with the person then you aren't really in love. I know because I have been in that kind of relationship before.

The reason why we fall in love is not because "I saw them..." Sure, there is attraction, but people keep confusing attraction with love. You can be attracted to someone or think someone is pretty, but not really be in love with them.

To me, whenever anyone says this kind of thing, all I am thinking is "I can't really truly justify love...so this is my way of avoiding that answer."

"I love you because.....reasons."

Honestly, those kind of relationships don't last long and when the "attraction" wears off....the relationships ends for..."reasons."

That's all I am reading into that. "I can't give you a real answer so...I am avoiding giving one with a cliche answer."


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:39 PM

Only guy who's development was spared 

But his life is not the best exemple for people, in the end - he's kind of... very lonely man in all aspects, but he has best friend.



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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:42 PM

But his life is not the best exemple for people, in the end - he's kind of... very lonely man in all aspects, but he has best friend.

 

To me, Naruto appears to be a very lonely man. Just because you have someone doesn't mean you aren't lonely.

 

"Have you ever been alone in a crowded room?"

 


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:45 PM

 

To me, Naruto appears to be a very lonely man. Just because you have someone doesn't mean you aren't lonely.

 

"Have you ever been alone in a crowded room?"

 

 

Nobody seems happy in the epilogue and to me that's one of its biggest problems. It's like giving character development and family issues to create drama that can be explored in the sequel for the new generation by means of destroying the characters of the old generation.



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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:48 PM

 

To me, Naruto appears to be a very lonely man. Just because you have someone doesn't mean you aren't lonely.

 

"Have you ever been alone in a crowded room?"

 

Don't want to look at that character of 2 last chapters =|

For me - Naruto is character that give example of steel will not a guy who lecture his son of a shinobi way like he wasn't like that as a kid =|, I myself use this "never give up", and be selfless for other, but it's sad to see character as good as that - lost his core in the end. But - oh well at least we had those 698 - of this great story, with this poor end =\


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:55 PM

"Love doesn't need a reason" means, IMO, that you don't need someone to do something to love him/her. You love him/her because of who he/she is. It's touching the concept of soulmates IMO.

You meet someone, you love him/her and that's it. It could be debatable, but IMO, the idea Kishimoto gave me was this.
IMO, it's even fuelling NaruSaku, because Naruto was loving her and the fact that Hinata did things wouldn't change the love he felt for Sakura. Normally.

 

I'm sorry but the idea that "Love doesn't need a reason," Is utter bullcrap. In real life there is no such thing as love at first sight. Abusive relationships do exist but they aren't the norm, and they only last are bc of old ideals of gender roles. Nowadays most ppl don't put up with that abusive crap 

 

All Relationships even love are based on development and investment. You have to seek people, get to know them, take risks, find common ground, shared experiences, pledges of friendship...etc.

 

This is why you care about people, bc of how much you have invested into a relationship. This is why you love someone because of how much you have invested into a relationship.


Edited by Shadow1275, 12 November 2014 - 08:57 PM.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 09:01 PM

Love does need a reason; a basis; a source. The basis of the love between Naruto and Sakura is the bond they have. They are each other's strength; they are heaven and earth. Sakura has always pushed herself to because of Naruto (to help him or even simply because he is cheering her on). Naruto has pushed himself to protect Sakura and to keep his promise to her. They are two sides of the same coin; their love is perfect and is the ideal everyone else should seek both in fiction and real life.

 

Kakashi got it backwards. It is hate that doesn't need a reason. I believe Oda demonstrated this well during the fishman island arc in One Piece where Hodi Jones hatred for humans persisted despite being shown that there was no reason for it. Look at many of NaruHina fans who continue to argue and harass ladygt despite having what they want (a canon ending for their ship) and despite ladygt's civility.


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 09:05 PM

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Sad that when a normal fan could think better way to end.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 09:06 PM

Remember Tidus and Yuuna from FFX? *sigh* even the FF franchise has some great romance. Kishi should have played some FF games to get a feeling how romance is done.

 

FFX was the first FF game I beat start to finish and I loved Tidus and Yuna. Now I want to go replay FF games.



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Posted 12 November 2014 - 09:07 PM

This whole "Love doesn't need a reason..." is taken too literally sometimes.

They think like anybody could fall in love with anyone without cause or reason...but that's not exactly true. If you're miserable with the person then you aren't really in love. I know because I have been in that kind of relationship before.

The reason why we fall in love is not because "I saw them..." Sure, there is attraction, but people keep confusing attraction with love. You can be attracted to someone or think someone is pretty, but not really be in love with them.

To me, whenever anyone says this kind of thing, all I am thinking is "I can't really truly justify love...so this is my way of avoiding that answer."

"I love you because.....reasons."

Honestly, those kind of relationships don't last long and when the "attraction" wears off....the relationships ends for..."reasons."

That's all I am reading into that. "I can't give you a real answer so...I am avoiding giving one with a cliche answer."

 

I wasn't talking only about attraction though. I was thinking about soulmates. You can feel someone because of his aura. You see what I mean ?


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 09:11 PM

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 09:12 PM

 

Nobody seems happy in the epilogue and to me that's one of its biggest problems. It's like giving character development and family issues to create drama that can be explored in the sequel for the new generation by means of destroying the characters of the old generation.

 

I know, right?! I hate that Kishi destroys the main characters of Naruto to drum up drama for a sequel.



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Posted 12 November 2014 - 09:14 PM

 
Nobody seems happy in the epilogue and to me that's one of its biggest problems. It's like giving character development and family issues to create drama that can be explored in the sequel for the new generation by means of destroying the characters of the old generation.

That is disgusting.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 09:30 PM

I am getting so sick of NH fans telling us we need to "Respect the author's decision" or a "real fan would love the ending."
That's like telling a Batman fan that they need to say that "Batman Forever and Batman and Robin are the best Batman movies of all time."

I rather watch those movies than The last.

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