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[TouKen4Life3g]

I just watched the SD episode. You're right sushi, her voice does sound different, but only in the first segment.

Is it more noticeable than Konohamaru in the first Shippuuden episode?

[sushi.]

Is it more noticeable than Konohamaru in the first Shippuuden episode?

It was so similar I had to look up on youtube to figure it out.

But the illogical fact that she only voiced one half got me quite confused.

Edited by sushi., 12 February 2013 - 05:37 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It was so similar I had to look up on youtube to figure it out.

But the illogical fact that she only voiced one half got me quite confused.

Perhaps the first half they have this new person to test her voice out. Second half, well maybe she got accustomed to it.

[Slextrem]

Is it more noticeable than Konohamaru in the first Shippuuden episode?

Hm... No, I wouldn't say so. Her voice sounds a little deeper than it usually does, but not by much. It's not Chie, but it's not bad.

[Chatte]

Ok I have to see that episode.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hm... No, I wouldn't say so. Her voice sounds a little deeper than it usually does, but not by much. It's not Chie, but it's not bad.

Ah ok.

You know one thing I have problem with Japanese VAs though maybe it has changed now. Back then, if the character grown up, the voice remains the same, though a little deeper tone. I guess it's heavily effected on DBZ if anything, which is why most people prefers USA dubs. Naruto, I'm good. USA Naruto, I'm not because I was praying for Naruto to get a "healthy" voice if you get what I mean. No offense to anyone I may offend.

[Don-kun]

LOL! I didn't know that about OP. That's funny. Hopefully I don't have that reaction to Sakura's temporary VA. It sounds like she did a decent job though. I'm looking forward to hearing it!

She probably will! Even if the account is an impostor, like so many people here have decided, the account updates pictures of Chie frequently. All of which are absolutely adorable. I'll let you know if I see anything.

I've hearing for years stuff about Chie FB account so don't count me in as one that came to that conclusion about the account is fake or being fake because I do believe the account is truth, I don't like denying stuff just to let myself feel any better because since the confession it's very obvious for even a 12 years old that Sakura accent in the Manga was just weird and it's also the main reason why her fans keep asking for her role in the manga and a lot of hater keep calling her useless or saying stuff like Kishi not caring about her character anymore.

The Naruto movie could be a way for Kishi to be making amen to the way he treated her character.

Anyway back to Kishimoto's plan with Sakura.
Sasuke (To Tobi) "If you think I'm just a foolish kid ruled by his emotions, that's fine. Following Itachi's path would be childish, the whispering of fools who don't know hatred. If anyone else tries to ridicule the way I live, I'll slaughter everyone they ever cared about. And then maybe they'll understand what it's like to taste… a little of my hatred."[73] This is from the Manga and there is only one person strongly opposing Sasuke's ways and that is Naruto. Killing of Sakura would of being a great way of sending a message to Naruto and his desire to oppose Sasuke's behavior.

In the end we don't know what will happen in the future, but ruling out stuff that matches with the way Kishi as being writing this Manga is not something I will do, like I say I never seeing a main character being sidelined for so long so her reappearance should dictates what Kishi has him mind for her character.

I strongly believe that Killing Sakura would of hurting this Manga a lot, but it's clear to everyone that Kishi didn't have any plans for Sakura.

Edited by Don-kun, 12 February 2013 - 07:03 PM.

[Slextrem]

Let's just drop the conversation about the rumor and the facebook account.

The conversation completely veered from where I was wanting it to go. I wasn't trying to make everyone lose their cool over the rumor, nor was I suggesting that it was the real deal, nor was I wanting to get into a debate over whether the account is real or fake. The only reason why I brought it up was because I thought the idea was interesting. I was hoping we'd get into a conversation about the "what if"s - the differences that the manga would have had, how it may have changed people's perspectives on Sakura's confession, what Kishimoto's intentions for the confession could have been, etc. The rumor being real or not was irrelevant.

While there were some discussions sparked, the main concern that everyone had was explaining exactly why they believe the rumor couldn't possibly be true. I understand that most here don't like to think about Kishimoto potentially killing off Sakura, (myself included), but damn. Can't we have a civil conversation about a possibility without people losing their minds over it? You don't need to beat the fact that it might not be true into my head over and over and over again. I already know that. I said that when I posted my original comment.

If the facebook account is fake, fine. I'm the kind of person that trusts what others tell me. I've talked many times with the person that's running the account, so I believed them when they said that they were Chie. Maybe that makes me gullible/naive/stupid, I don't know. Frankly, I don't care. Again, that wasn't my concern when I brought the topic up. Since we've proven that we can't handle having a civil discussion about semi-controversial topics, I'll keep those thoughts to myself or in private discussions in the future.

Sorry for blowing up the thread and ruining the original discussion.
I'll mind what I post from now on.

Edited by Slextrem, 12 February 2013 - 06:31 PM.

[Chatte]

To be honest, I always get saddened with her evolution in the manga...
No matter what Kishi will do now, it will never erase those years of potential he wasted.

[narusaku4ver]

I've hearing for years stuff about Chie FB account so don't count me in as one that came to that conclusion about the acct being fake, I don't like saying things just to let myself feel any better because since the confession it's very obvious for even a 12 years old that Sakura accent in the Manga was just wierd and it's also the main reason why her fans keep asking for her role in the manga and a lot of hater keep calling her useless or saying stuff like Kishi not caring about her character anymore.

The Naruto movie could be a way for Kishi to be making amen to the way he treated her character.

Anyway back to Kishimoto's plan with Sakura.
Sasuke (To Tobi) "If you think I'm just a foolish kid ruled by his emotions, that's fine. Following Itachi's path would be childish, the whispering of fools who don't know hatred. If anyone else tries to ridicule the way I live, I'll slaughter everyone they ever cared about. And then maybe they'll understand what it's like to taste… a little of my hatred."[73] This is from the Manga and there is only one person strongly opposing Sasuke's ways and that is Naruto. Killing of Sakura would of being a great way of sending a message to Naruto and his desire to oppose Sasuke's behavior.

In the end we don't know what will happen in the future, but ruling out stuff that matches with the way Kishi as being writing this Manga is not something I will do, like I say I never seeing a main character being sidelined for so long so her reappearance should dictates what Kishi has him mind for her character.

I strongly believe that Killing Sakura would of hurting this Manga a lot, but it's clear to everyone that Kishi didn't have any plans for Sakura.

Disagree, killing Sakura would not hurt the manga as i said because she would not be killed just for the sake of it, dying at Sasuke's hands have a meaning that she was a weak girl that could not handle the situation, Naruto would lose the most important person and then he would've make a decision just look at this arc i cannot think on a way to Naruto understand Obito without Sakura dying, say what you want but Neji dying does not have the same meaning of Rin dying.
If it was to be a lesson it's okay, but since the edo rinne tensei was introduced it's clearly obvious that her death even if it happens would be temporary.
Kishimoto has plans for Sakura since the begining the difference is that sometime he plays it badly and other he plays it well, the manga was rushed with the Akatsuki and it ended so fast that it skipped a lot of jinchuurikis and we only 3~4 of them had an arc or just an mini-arc.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 12 February 2013 - 06:40 PM.

[Don-kun]

Let's just drop the conversation about the rumor and the facebook account.

The conversation completely veered from where I was wanting it to go. I wasn't trying to make everyone lose their cool over the rumor, nor was I suggesting that it was the real deal, nor was I wanting to get into a debate over whether the account is real or fake. The only reason why I brought it up was because I thought the idea was interesting. I was hoping we'd get into a conversation about the "what if"s - the differences that the manga would have had, how it may have changed people's perspectives on Sakura's confession, what Kishimoto's intentions for the confession could have been, etc. The rumor being real or not was irrelevant.

While there were some discussions sparked, the main concern that everyone had was explaining exactly why they believe the rumor couldn't possibly be true. I understand that most here don't like to think about Kishimoto potentially killing off Sakura, (myself included), but damn. Can't we have a civil conversation about a possibility without people losing their minds over it? You don't need to beat the fact that it might not be true into my head over and over and over again. I already know that. I said that when I posted my original comment.

If the facebook account is fake, fine. I'm the kind of person that trusts what others tell me. I've talked many times with the person that's running the account, so I believed them when they said that they were Chie. Maybe that makes me gullible/naive/stupid, I don't know. Frankly, I don't care. Again, that wasn't my concern when I brought the topic up. Since we've proven that we can't handle having a civil discussion about semi-controversial topics, I'll keep those thoughts to myself or in private discussions in the future.

Sorry for blowing up the thread and ruining the original discussion.
I'll mind what I post from now on.

Excuse me but since when are you're allowed to tell users what conversation to have or witch one to drop, there are nice ways to say things and harsh ways to say things.
This topic was brought up by no one else but you with the intention to talk about it and try to go over events we have seeing in the Manga. So far this rumor is just a rumor not confirmed by Kishi himself, but if someone want to question Kishi's behavior with say character taking in consideration that rumor, I believe I'm in my right to do so, I'm not bashing anyone in the process.


So if you don't want to talk about something just do what other normally do, start a new topic or ignore what is on hand, not dictate how we should behave or what we are allow to say and what we are not allow to say here, since this is a forum and we are free to discuss whatever we want as long that we are not bashing any characters or any users in the proses, so please calm down your horses and if you don't want to talk about this topic any farther just ignore it.

No matter what others want to believe it's clear to me that Kishi didn't have any plans towards Sakura and that he could well be planning for Sasuke to be the one who ends her life, if Kishi did show me something great about Sakura then I would of say that the rumor is crap, but this rumor sadly matches with the way he being treating her character so far.

Edited by Don-kun, 12 February 2013 - 07:09 PM.

[xerorains]

I'm split down the middle about the whole kill off Sakura thing. I can see why Kishi would do it. In fact, it's not difficult for me to believe that he would have killed off a lot more characters already. From my perspective, he seems easily distracted and it appears he is under pressure to "flesh" out the character concepts he introduces.

The general idea for Naruto appears to carry the theme of surpassing the previous generation. It's also important that Naruto is not infallible, and the audience has room to doubt. I wouldn't personally agree with the idea. We can also surmise that Kishi didn't believe in it either.

The reason it appears ridiculous to me is that we know the ending is already in place. We have actually known this for years. So either Kishi lied to the public, he lied to the VA, or it doesn't really make much sense. Of course it doesn't have to make much sense, does it? I think it's quite clear how whimsical Kishi can be.

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About Hinata, I fail to understand how her fans seem to imagine her. Her character, like a lot of the others seem pretty one dimensional. So it generally confuses me when people seem to add more to it. You can't go underneath the underneath for everything. If Kishi did that, he would spend more time thinking than actually drawing. She is not the heroine. Why should she end up with the hero? It just doesn't seem feasible to me at all, despite people clinging to her.

[Slextrem]

Excuse me but since when are you're allowed to tell users what conversation to have or witch one to drop, there are nice ways to say things and harsh ways to say things.
This topic was brought up by no one else but you with the intention to talk about it and try to go over events we have seeing in the Manga. So far this rumor is just a rumor not confirmed by Kishi himself, but if someone want to question Kishi's behavior with say character taking in consideration that rumor, I believe I'm in my right to do so, I'm not bashing anyone in the process.


So if you don't want to talk about something just do what other normally do, start a new topic or ignore what is on hand, not dictate how we should behave or what we are allow to say and what we are not allow to say here, since this is a forum and we are free to discuss whatever we want as long that we are not bashing any characters or any users in the proses, so please calm down your horses and if you don't want to talk about this topic any farther just ignore it.

You responded to me specifically to tell me again how the account is fake, even though I had moved on from that conversation completely. Thus, I felt the need to make that post saying to drop it. If you want to keep talking about it with other users, fine, but stop responding to me about it. I'm tired of people shoving the point that the rumor/account is fake in my face. That wasn't the point that I was trying to make with my original post.

Edited by Slextrem, 12 February 2013 - 07:03 PM.

[narusaku4ver]

I'm split down the middle about the whole kill off Sakura thing. I can see why Kishi would do it. In fact, it's not difficult for me to believe that he would have killed off a lot more characters already. From my perspective, he seems easily distracted and it appears he is under pressure to "flesh" out the character concepts he introduces.

The general idea for Naruto appears to carry the theme of surpassing the previous generation. It's also important that Naruto is not infallible, and the audience has room to doubt. I wouldn't personally agree with the idea. We can also surmise that Kishi didn't believe in it either.

The reason it appears ridiculous to me is that we know the ending is already in place. We have actually known this for years. So either Kishi lied to the public, he lied to the VA, or it doesn't really make much sense. Of course it doesn't have to make much sense, does it? I think it's quite clear how whimsical Kishi can be.

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About Hinata, I fail to understand how her fans seem to imagine her. Her character, like a lot of the others seem pretty one dimensional. So it generally confuses me when people seem to add more to it. You can't go underneath the underneath for everything. If Kishi did that, he would spend more time thinking than actually drawing. She is not the heroine. Why should she end up with the hero? It just doesn't seem feasible to me at all, despite people clinging to her.

Me too would be better if she dies on this arc and gets revived by Obito to see if Naruto would or not become like him as Obito claims showing that there's another choice for him using the edo rinne tensei to revive her and die, but it's obvious that it would not happen because would make NS canon, so it's likely pushing Neji's death to be equal to Rin's death, about Naruto not being infallible, well i would believe on that but Nagato said that Naruto's volume was perfect so for me i think he will accomplish everything save Sasuke, become hokage, change the world, ending up with Sakura.
He will not fail.

I have any doubts that along with the train of happiness Madara will be changed along with Obito.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 12 February 2013 - 07:20 PM.

[Chatte]

Can we just move-on from that discussion, really? Pretty please? Thanks!

[Don-kun]

I will Chatte I think everyone wants to believe that everything will go well with Naruto and Sakura + NS, but I also believe that we need to consider other stuff so if something doesn't happen the way we always wanted at lease we always had that doubt in us that will help us have a more easier transition with the moving on.

You responded to me specifically to tell me again how the account is fake, even though I had moved on from that conversation completely. Thus, I felt the need to make that post saying to drop it. If you want to keep talking about it with other users, fine, but stop responding to me about it. I'm tired of people shoving the point that the rumor/account is fake in my face. That wasn't the point that I was trying to make with my original post.

I kind of question the event at the start, but I never stated that the account was fake, that's why I especially told you not to count me as one who believes that the account was fake since I can clearly see that Kishi is not treating Sakura the right way and he is not doing anything to help her fans against her haters he just keep adding more arsenal for them to bad mouth her character, three quick example I could add: Sasuke would understand me comment to Naruto, praising Hinata character in the movie the interview while not saying anything about Sakura despite the fact that he clearly stated that he would talk about her character and jealousy of Hinata's size while later beating the crap out of Naruto for no reason, all of these reference are from the best NS movie ever because in the Manga he just refuses to write anything to keep the haters quiet or make it clear who is the heroine of the story.

So no I didn't disagree with your post, I just finding more reason to show why I believe that poster is truth.

Edited by Don-kun, 12 February 2013 - 07:37 PM.

[xerorains]

Yeah, sorry. I was a bit late to the party. I started typing my response up this morning, but I'm at work and I didn't get to finish til a little bit ago.

So am I crazy or does anybody think that Hinata is one dimensional? (Not insulting her character here, it just strikes me as she is made to serve a single purpose.)

[sushi.]

So..uhm..anyone looking forward to the tomorrow's chapter?

I myself would love to see Minato-kun speak. XD

[Slextrem]

I kind of question the event at the start, but I never stated that the account was fake, that's why I especially told you not to count me as one who believes that the account was fake since I can clearly see that Kishi is not treating Sakura the right way and he is not doing anything to help her fans against her haters he just keep adding more arsenal for them to bad mouth her character, three quick example I could add: Sasuke would understand me comment to Naruto, praising Hinata character in the movie the interview while not saying anything about Sakura despite the fact that he clearly stated that he would talk about her character and jealousy of Hinata's size while later beating the crap out of Naruto for no reason, all of these reference are from the best NS movie ever because in the Manga he just refuses to write anything to keep the haters quiet or make it clear who is the heroine of the story.

So no I didn't disagree with your post, I just finding more reason to show why I believe that poster is truth.

I misunderstood your post. I apologize.

So..uhm..anyone looking forward to the tomorrow's chapter?

I myself would love to see Minato-kun speak. XD

Same here! I assumed that he would have more dialogue in the last chapter. He can't be revived without getting to say anything.

Edited by Slextrem, 12 February 2013 - 07:34 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Can we just move-on from that discussion, really? Pretty please? Thanks!

So..uhm..anyone looking forward to the tomorrow's chapter?

I myself would love to see Minato-kun speak. XD

I am for sure. Hashirama is going to talk and I can sense that his storytelling could have him acting like a goof at certain point. When it gets to the serious point, well yeah, serious time. What do you think he's going to cover in the next chapter?