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[Illnevergiveup3]

There's no way for Kishi to fix this.

The only way for Kishi to POSSIBLY fix this in my opinion, is if he rewrote everything after the Pein arc, and followed his original plan and ending.

[Nar123]

The only way for Kishi to POSSIBLY fix this in my opinion, is if he rewrote everything after the Pein arc, and followed Yahagi's original plan and ending.

 

Fixed.

[Nar123]

Kishimoto is the epitome of a writer having written his story into a corner. Whether he was paid to do it or forced to do it doesn't really matter anymore. The moment NH and SS became the canon couples for the sake of this gaiden and new movie, Kishi basically ran out of wiggle room. Of course this is on top of his obvious infatuation with Sasuke and the Uchiha.

 

The Naruto franchise then became about how to explain the way these couples came to be or how they supposedly make sense. So the only drama left for Kishi to play with is the actual state of these canon relationships. Such as whether or not NH is happy together. Or is SS an actual true, loving marriage with a daughter who belongs to both parents?

 

Had he stayed true to the manga's original path. Kept the plot simple and either gave NH some panel time or made NS canon (the latter would've still been better) then he wouldn't have had to make a bad movie to explain a sudden relationship. Plus he might actually have been able to write a gaiden about the next generation that was actually centered around the next generation.

 

He can't even come up with original villain ideas any longer, because everything either falls back to Orochimaru, the Uchiha or Kaguya and her descendants. The decision to end the Naruto manga the way they did killed off all chances of any kind to see any new or original ideas for this franchise.

 

The supposed popularity of certain characters appears to be what forced this decision that ultimately killed this story. So if Kishi is trying to purposely ruin his story even further due to his dislike of the way it turned out, then I say good for him. But if he's actually putting effort into it thinking the story is good, then I have no words to describe how inept he truly is as a writer.

 

THIS. 

 

Awesome post, really

 

 

NARUTO GAIDEN: THE SEVENTH HOKAGE!!!

 

is about salad finding out about her parents with her comic relief sidekick chouchou. the uchiha are once again the central focus and orochimaru is running free still experimenting on innocents while naruto neglects his family. truely an epic that would make shakespear eat his heart out.

 

Kishi be like

 

" Unlimited misleading works!! "

 

Honestly Naruto gaiden should just be called Uchiha Gaiden  a

[Namikaze Clan]

So once Gaiden ends in two weeks, is it going to be animated?

[TouKen4Life3g]

So once Gaiden ends in two weeks, is it going to be animated?

Probably but in OVA form. It can be done in 3-5 episodes top.

[Apollo]

So once Gaiden ends in two weeks, is it going to be animated?

 

Why bother, just take footage from various reality shows about who's the father and just edit in Naruto,Sakura,Sasuke,

[Nar123]

 

Why bother, just take footage from various reality shows about who's the father and just edit in Naruto,Sakura,Sasuke,

 

#truth

 

Edited by Nar123, 20 June 2015 - 01:30 AM.

[rocci]

Probably but in OVA form. It can be done in 3-5 episodes top.

Don't be surprise if sp animated it for regular weekly episode after naruto filler end.

[Apollo]

Don't be surprise if sp animated it for regular weekly episode after naruto filler end.

 

inb4 they edit boob hime-sama into it too.

[luffyq1]

So once Gaiden ends in two weeks, is it going to be animated?

i expect it will.

[trang95]

BORUTO- THE MOVIE TRAILER 2 OUT (-.-) http://www.narusaku....=15054&p=846051

[tricksie]

Kishimoto is the epitome of a writer having written his story into a corner. Whether he was paid to do it or forced to do it doesn't really matter anymore. The moment NH and SS became the canon couples for the sake of this gaiden and new movie, Kishi basically ran out of wiggle room. Of course this is on top of his obvious infatuation with Sasuke and the Uchiha.

 

The Naruto franchise then became about how to explain the way these couples came to be or how they supposedly make sense. So the only drama left for Kishi to play with is the actual state of these canon relationships. Such as whether or not NH is happy together. Or is SS an actual true, loving marriage with a daughter who belongs to both parents?

 

Had he stayed true to the manga's original path. Kept the plot simple and either gave NH some panel time or made NS canon (the latter would've still been better) then he wouldn't have had to make a bad movie to explain a sudden relationship. Plus he might actually have been able to write a gaiden about the next generation that was actually centered around the next generation.

 

He can't even come up with original villain ideas any longer, because everything either falls back to Orochimaru, the Uchiha or Kaguya and her descendants. The decision to end the Naruto manga the way they did killed off all chances of any kind to see any new or original ideas for this franchise.

 

The supposed popularity of certain characters appears to be what forced this decision that ultimately killed this story. So if Kishi is trying to purposely ruin his story even further due to his dislike of the way it turned out, then I say good for him. But if he's actually putting effort into it thinking the story is good, then I have no words to describe how inept he truly is as a writer.

Great post!!!

 

Yes, I used to think Kishi's whole "I don't know where the plot is going" schtick was just that. A schtick. Him being coy to keep rabid fans at bay.

 

But now I know he was just really terribly at planning out plot, following through on themes, and keeping at bay editors and marketers who had no vested interest in the integrity of the story, only how to make another buck out of the franchise.

 

His creative well ran dry a long time ago. Even in this chapter he phoned in two pages by cut-and-pasting Naruto flashback panels. He didn't redraw them for this new series, just cut and past. Two whole pages. 

 

That right there just shows how finished he is with the series. (lol, as if all the other crap he's pulled hasn't!) He can't even be bothered to give Naruto a new perspective or add some twist on the memory that makes it relevant. Instead he just rehashes the same old thing.

 

Persuading Sarada to stay in the village? Naruto remembers his childhood.

Ages can't come to some decision? Naruto remembers his childhood.

Hinata sends Naruto to the store to get vegetables instead of ramen? Naruto remembers his childhood.

 

Seriously, Kishimoto has made Naruto's only persuasive argument the flashback of his childhood. That's it.

[Illnevergiveup3]

I mean I don't think even dummies like SP should waste their time or budget animating a piece of crap series like Naruto Gaiden.

Edited by Illnevergiveup3, 20 June 2015 - 02:00 AM.

[rocci]

I mean I don't think even dummies like SP should waste their time with animating a piece of crap series like Naruto Gaiden.

It give them monies.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Fixed.

What was Yahagi's ending?

[Illnevergiveup3]

What was Yahagi's ending?

I think all of part 1 was his idea, I'm not sure about part 2.

[rocci]

I think all of part 1 was his idea, I'm not sure about part 2.

He take part in part 2 until sasuke awaken ms.
He become the chief editor of jump sq. It is the jump monthly shonen magazine.

[Nar123]

What was Yahagi's ending?

 

I don't know, but the story was certainly better when he was in command

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
I don't know, but the story was certainly better when he was in command

It was solid 8 out of 10 at the highest, maybe a 9 if something drastic were to happen, whatever that may be. It was lowering to 7 but I always saw it like 7-8 by Pain Arc. Then it goes down and down. The worst part is that after Pain Arc, it's literally 1/3 of the series, so it had a lot of time to lower the grade, which is why it's hard to dismiss it altogether.

[Princess Iris]

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