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[六道仙人]

I launch a poll.

 

When exactly Kishimoto has lost his own mind?

• When he married his wife by giving the beginning the sickening and bleeding heart liberalism in the manga
• When he realized that his current account was so full that he didn't need no longer to mantain the consistencty in his story
• When they told him that Hinata had to be the absolute star of the story
• When an alien kidnapped him and began to write the crap that we know as well
• He is under the influence of some eternal hangover after a drink with Tite Kubo from which he cannot be released

[tricksie]

AHK, I saw your posts from a few pages back:

Stress does not excuse the fact that she lashed out at Salad, the same exact way Sasuke lashed out at Sakura time and time again. I don't excuse Sasuke for that shit, and I damn sure won't excuse Sakura, who i once held to much higher standards than Sasuke could even dream. There is no excuse for it. Look at the damage she caused! One foot closer and Salad is dead! It's revolting that I even have to stick up for that child, she shouldn't exist, but still, I won't hold back when i criticized Sasuke for the same thing. She damn near could have ended a child's life, and she did it out of the need to intimidate her into silence.

 

So, the thing about Sakura and punching the ground.... I don't see it as an example of child abuse. Just a weak connection from Sakura to Tsunade. Since Tsunade's been shown to behave like this to Sakura many times, and slapping and physical comedy is big in this manga, I think this is one of those overblown reactions. Not abuse, because when Tsunade reacted that way to Sakura, it wasn't considered abuse either. (In real life, that's unacceptable. But this is a manga, and a terrible one at that.)

 

But here's the problem with the scene: Where Tsunade does punches the ground and destroys whole swaths of land, people step back and look at her with awe and put her in a place of power. But if Sakura does it, she is shown destroying her own home and passing out. She is punished for her power, and only ends up hurting herself.

 

So Kishimoto just continues to undermine Sakura. He is constantly punishing her for speaking out, using her abilities, having a temper, etc. This is why he's sexist. Because where Naruto rewarded for the same personality, skills and strength, Sakura is put down and her self-empowerment is punished.

 

There has yet to be a positive outcome for Sakura in the ending. Not one single thing has happened good for her. 

 

And I think the reason is because she's not Hinata. She's not passive and flawless and created to be easy-to-look-at and undemanding. Sakura is like a real life girl, and Kishimoto doesn't know how to write for those.

 

I'm sorry to say, but I don't expect much more for Sarada. He's never written well for females. I'm not holding out any hope that he's changed now.

 

I understand that you're talking about the emotional core of what's happening.... And it's true. In real life, reacting that way would be reprehensible. But I just don't think Kishimoto thinks that deeply. Sakura is just a disposable character now. She's a one-time main character who has now become the butt of some sexist joke for Kishimoto. He just keeps going back to it, but nobody with a brain thinks it's funny.

[Nate River]

So, it was Sakura's punch that resulted in the house falling down, right?
 
I have to say, reading this was quite entertaining.. I knew Sarada would be related to Karin. I honestly can't emphasize how pathetic Sakura looks.. and I'm not even talking about her doing housework or anything people consider to be sexist. She waited all of Part 1 miserably (except when she was with Naruto), all of Part 2 miserably (once again, except when she was with Naruto), and now TWELVE years for Sasuke, a guy who is never around. A guy who did nothing but degrade her the entire series and break her down to nothing but tears, someone who contributed absolutely NOTHING of worth to her life. 
 
And yet, all this time later, she still stands there spouting damage control when her own "daughter" questions her about this. The worst part was when I saw she put her picture over Karin's in the "family" photo. I laughed so hard. Seriously? They don't even have one photo together. Sakura is so desperate that she had to put her photo over Karin's in the picture frame. 
 
Oh yeah, and suddenly she faints a lot.. she must be seeing Sasuke's ghost quite often. I wonder, when she gets to be Tsunade's age and Sasuke still isn't around and she begins to look back at her life, what will she think? Oh well, I guess she'd consider a life of nothing but waiting around miserably, distracting herself from the truth and lying to herself fulfilling.

Is that not part for the course for Kishimoto, though? I mean Sasuke had a kid with a girl he nearly murdered.

It's like the worst of both universes for SS and SK. There must be some giant Konoha mental jutsu that Naruto has in place that just prevents everyone from telling the guy to screw off.

It really is an amazing sight to behold. Has there ever been a character in literature that has been given so much un deserved loyalty and have that portrayed as a good thing?

I can understand taking Sarada in regardless of what anyone thinks of Sasuke. She didn't do anything. But Sakura still wanting Sasuke after he abandons you and his daughter for 12 years? She should at least stick up for Sarada. Sweet merciful crap. That's just awful.

Does everyone involved creating this mess just have their heads permanently jammed up their butts or something?

[tricksie]

Unlikely

But I hope its NH time next

 

lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

O M G

 

I love this. I wish I'd read this instead of everything after 698.

[Nar123]

Wrong !!! 

 

 

Damn you! I was drinking something now it's spilled all over 

 

                     

[Sakura~]

Unlikely

But I hope its NH time next

 

lol

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I want to see the tears of NH fans.

[narusaku256]

 
 
Oh I forgot Kakashi is an old guy now!!  Well, I can't really see Sakura getting with anyone else besides him, Naruto, or (excuse me) Sasuke.  Oh there's Rock Lee but he's ugly. 

Well....they did have that sexual tension towards the end of the series Naruto was trying right from day 1 and yeyvhe couldn't get anything out of Sakura....Sasuke...well... But Kakashi....towards the end...yep...he got the girl

[Nar123]

We all know that Sakura is Sarada's mother, Kishi is just trolling, he wants attention.

 

Yep

 

 

I launch a poll.

 

When exactly Kishimoto has lost his own mind?

• When he married his wife by giving the beginning the sickening and bleeding heart liberalism in the manga
• When he realized that his current account was so full that he didn't need no longer to mantain the consistencty in his story
• When they told him that Hinata had to be the absolute star of the story
• When an alien kidnapped him and began to write the crap that we know as well
• He is under the influence of some eternal hangover after a drink with Tite Kubo from which he cannot be released

 

 

 

Can it be "all of the above" ?

If not I'd say that its when he realized his current bank account was full enough

[Yyubie]

So, it was Sakura's punch that resulted in the house falling down, right?

 

I have to say, reading this was quite entertaining.. I knew Sarada would be related to Karin. I honestly can't emphasize how pathetic Sakura looks.. and I'm not even talking about her doing housework or anything people consider to be sexist. She waited all of Part 1 miserably (except when she was with Naruto), all of Part 2 miserably (once again, except when she was with Naruto), and now TWELVE years for Sasuke, a guy who is never around. A guy who did nothing but degrade her the entire series and break her down to nothing but tears, someone who contributed absolutely NOTHING of worth to her life. 

 

And yet, all this time later, she still stands there spouting damage control when her own "daughter" questions her about this. The worst part was when I saw she put her picture over Karin's in the "family" photo. I laughed so hard. Seriously? They don't even have one photo together. Sakura is so desperate that she had to put her photo over Karin's in the picture frame. 

 

Oh yeah, and suddenly she faints a lot.. she must be seeing Sasuke's ghost quite often. I wonder, when she gets to be Tsunade's age and Sasuke still isn't around and she begins to look back at her life, what will she think? Oh well, I guess she'd consider a life of nothing but waiting around miserably, distracting herself from the truth and lying to herself fulfilling.

Well said. I cannot believe i said this right now sakura is realy stupid ... all she need to do is calmly sitdown , close her eyes, and think back to the pass. The only reason why she has feeling for sasuke is one THE BENCH SCENE. Thats it . After 12 years she still waiting that is beyond crazy not even one of her friends ino [even ino moved on from sasuke to sai] tsunade ,shizune no one give her advice 12 kittening years waiting .... my god i dont even have word for it. She knows her life is terible horrible and sad. But she STILL willing ENDURE for some GUY who NEVER shows any romantic feeling towards her. I cant believe this.

 

I dont want to but i just cant see her like this . Deep down inside my heart i realy wish that THIS spin-off will make her end with naruto realy theres no one in narutoverse know and love her better than naruto. Hes the only one who can make sakura smile like kushina. Im gonna give this series one last chance. Hope its gonna work sakura deserve ALOT better than anyone else in this manga right now she is missrable.

[narusaku256]

Jiraiya would be so proud of Naruto today.... The third and the last book....is a huge hit!

[Nostradamus]

Unlikely

But I hope its NH time next

 

lol

 

 

 

 

 

Perfect. However there should be one more picture with Kushina getting angry and smacking some sense into Naruto.

[tricksie]

Is that not part for the course for Kishimoto, though? I mean Sasuke had a kid with a girl he nearly murdered.

It's like the worst of both universes for SS and SK. There must be some giant Konoha mental jutsu that Naruto has in place that just prevents everyone from telling the guy to screw off.

It really is an amazing sight to behold. Has there ever been a character in literature that has been given so much un deserved loyalty and have that portrayed as a good thing?

I can understand taking Sarada in regardless of what anyone thinks of Sasuke. She didn't do anything. But Sasuke still wanting Sasuke after he abandons you and his daughter for 12 years? She should at least stick up for Sarada. Sweet merciful crap. That's just awful.

Does everyone involved creating this mess just have their heads permanently jammed up their butts or something?

 

Works both ways. No matter how it ends up, whether it's Karin or Sakura, it's still a girl he nearly murdered. 

 

What's crazy is that I really, genuinely liked this manga. And now, I'm getting an almost equal amount of pleasure in watching it go down in flames. And everytime I think we've hit the bottom, Kishimoto just busts on through. If it's like he said in the chapter that this is the pinnacle of his writing...then maybe he's right! Because it's gotten really, spectacularly awful!

[Michi]

Unlikely
But I hope its NH time next
 

lol

 
 

 


 




 

[Aizen-Sama]

Not only is Sakura a single mom with a child that might not even by her's, and is fainting sick despite the fact that she's supposed to be the greatest medic ninja in the village, but she's having nervous breakdowns now due to borrowing too many loans and breaking her own house down.   Man, is this comedy or hate-fanfiction?  lol

Edited by Aizen-Sama, 23 April 2015 - 06:09 PM.

[Nar123]

Jiraiya would be so proud of Naruto today.... The third and the last book....is a huge hit!

 

Nagato : The first book was good, the sequel was horrible, Naruto make the last book shine!

 

Naruto (10 years later): mission failed

[Nar123]

Not only is Sakura a single mom with a child that might not even by her's, and is fainting sick despite the fact that she's supposed to be the greatest medic ninja in the village, but she's having nervous breakdowns now due to borrowing too many loans and breaking her own house down.   Man, is this comedy or hate-fanfiction?  lol

 

It looks like an anti-Sakura fanfic funnily enough

[harry4e]

We all know that Sakura is Sarada's mother, Kishi is just trolling, he wants attention.

 

That's not the issue, we've all concluded that part, however whoever the birth mother is doesn't change the fact that A) Not a single visit from good old Sasuke for 12 years to his family, B) The only photo of Sakura and Sasuke together is of the team photo. Also it's odd of no photo with Sakura with Sarada either, but that could be her being the one behind the camera taking photo's of her child.

 

OK so is there anyone who is defending this chapter, and actually think it's good?

[Aizen-Sama]

Sasuke hasn't even seen his daughter.  What a disgusting cowardly assh*le.

[Nostradamus]

Not only is Sakura a single mom with a child that might not even by her's, and is fainting sick despite the fact that she's supposed to be the greatest medic ninja in the village, but she's having nervous breakdowns now due to borrowing too many loans and breaking her own house down.   Man, is this comedy or hate-fanfiction?  lol

I'm calling it right now. Sakura got so desperate that she killed Karin and stole her kid and created her own Uchiha family with Karin's kid. And Sasuke was like" "Yeah I don't really care I just want to travel the world."

 

 

This is pure gold. Whenever you think they can't do any lower they find a way. Any low point can always get lower.

[narusaku256]

 
Nagato : The first book was good, the sequel was horrible, Naruto make the last book shine!
 
Naruto (10 years later): mission failed

Jiraiya didn't deserve that too. Of all...Jiraiya wasn't supposed to be the one to get disappointed. If anyone would be hurt the most...by current Naruto...it'd be Jiraiya.

On one hand....Atleast Jiraiya died a hero's death. He didn't get to see the transformation of Naruto and its great that he didn't. And really....I feel happy that he died when the series was at its best. Handling a retconed Jiraiya would be too much. Atleast he didn't get his character destroyed. Jiraiya is one of those gems of Naruto and seeing him getting destroyed....

I am happy that Jiraiya died and got the ending he deserved