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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:01 PM

SS daughter looks creepy as hell... stalking bolt and stuff, and her expressions too /sigh

 

and naruto is prob not the best dad...... same goes to sasuke



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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:02 PM

w.e i can still see my happy little NaruSaku family in my head. One blond boy who looks like his father with green eyes, and two pink haired b/g twins both with pink hair and one with blue eyes.

 

lol if those moments push NH so far than why does it take three years after the ending to get the ball rolling. 


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:02 PM

Whats strange -  im okay with 700 chapter. Probably because its all about other people, not just about Naruto/Sakura/Sasuke and gave me the nostalgic feelings.

 

Im hate 699 chapter. THE WORST. CHAPTER. IN A WHILE!


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:02 PM

I have visited various forums except NB(rabid NH fanboys who cant see kitten due to shipping goggles) and it seems no one is happy with this.Not even genuine NH/SS fans.One SS fan even said that all Sasuke did was stick his kitten into Sakura and then run off to be a deadbeat leaving Sakura taking care of her spawn.Never seen such a kitten epilogue.

 

This epilogue is even worse than Digimon. At least Matt and Sora had a moment together.I am saying this as a Taiora shipper



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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:02 PM

bad ending is mega ultra bad....but at least I can move on........

 

I didn't read the whole chapter but it announced that Naruto was hokage right?


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:03 PM

Sarada has no resemblance to Sakura at all. WTF happened with that?

She's Karin up and down! lol theres little things i feel like he did to be mean, and this is one of them. 


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:03 PM

Do you guys think we'll get an explanation from Kishi? I honestly don't think this is what he wanted to do. That's why it seems so random and OOC. I think up until 698 he wrote it the way he had planned from the Pain Arc, but then for 699/700 switched to the Epilouge and movie for Part 3 and money. He has to explain this somehow. There's no way he wrote all those NS scenes showing Naruto being in love with Sakura and her putting him above Sasuke just to end it like this. There's no way I'll believe that.
Anyway, like I said before, 698's the last chapter for me. After that I'll make my own conclusion. NS is still the only logical pairing going by the entire series. Two OOC chapters and a movie won't change that.

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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:03 PM



She does though. Her forehead. She only looks like Karin because of the glasses

Why the glasses though? That just seems totally random for a SasuSaku kid to have.

 

You know what, I give up trying to make sense of this mess.

 

 


 



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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:03 PM

I asked what the point of Minato and Kushinas words were and if we now have to assume that Naruto gave up on Sakura.

 

She probably agreed with you, that's why she followed you.
 


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:04 PM

it is utterly horrific to me that Kishimoto is such a bad writer he would forsake fifteen years worth of character and plot development - all within the span of four chapters.  It makes me wonder what his motivations really were, because in the end the pairings came from thin air.

 

No one should hate Sakura's character, they should hate the way she was portrayed in the ending.  We watched Sakura grow from an insecure, useless child into a powerful woman (Who was the unfortunate victim of bad writing).  It saddens me that it only took a handful of chapters to totally destroy everything Kishimoto himself had been building for years and years.  I remember when I first started reading Naruto, when it had first come out, it was a story about a plucky little orphan who was determined to make it in the world and he had so many goals set out for himself.  Sakura was one of those goals.  I know that some people don't understand why Naruto liked Sakura back then, but there was beauty in her fire and determination.  What have we seen since the time skip?  it was like that fire burnt out, that the only reason Sakura even existed anymore was to fill Team 7 and end up with Sasuke.  That said, how Kishimoto could decide that an abusive traitor was worthy of her love and admiration, period, is beyond me.

 

It took 600+ chapters to depict the parallels between Team 7 and the others, as well as between Sakura and Kushina.  For Naruto to call her his girlfriend, for her not to deny, to meet his parents, to be like his mother, to grow, only to end up with the broody emo boy whose presence was barely remarkable since the first half of the manga.  What happened to never giving up?  What happened to chasing the girl of his dreams?  Why all the backstory between naruto and Sakura only to ship them off with two minor characters?

 

For NaruHina fans this is a totally hollow, unremarkable victory.  Naruto and hinata thus far have NO relationship whatsoever, we've only seen glances of Hinata in the manga.  Hell, even the filler with the anime was geared towards Naruto and Sakura.  I remember watching the movie where Naruto and Sakura had their roles reversed, where they were both able to peer into each others lives.  It was beautiful, it was emotional, and it showed Sakura exactly why she shouldn't be with sasuke.  he was absolutely fake, a traitor, and unworthy of her time..  And Naruto sacrificed that happiness for her.  Now as fans (Not just of the pairing but the manga itself) we have to wonder why we made this journey in the first place, to have so much resolved in the span of two chapters..  With so much left unanswered.

How Sasuke is able to redeem himself after betraying his village, his team 7 'family', with a simple 'sorry' does not suffice.  It is hollow, it is empty, it is illogical.   There was no resolution to the promise of a lifetime, not even an acknowledgment of it, and we are left wondering why something that played such a big role in the earlier chapters is now completely forgotten.  I have never witnessed writing so atrocious in all the books and manga I've read.  It was rushed and you really feel it.  We all grew along with Naruto, we felt his pain, we felt his triumphs, when Sakura thanked him in front of the villagers we felt his elation and victory.  Now what are we left with?  We feel betrayed, just like Naruto and Sakura SHOULD have.  But no promise of a lifetime will bring back the wasted years, the wasted potential that this manga had.  All to be dashed on the rocks with two chapters.

Naruto's feelings for Sakura - ones that played an IMMENSE part in the manga itself for years and years has conveniently been forgotten.  Swept under the rug.  Naruhina fans got what they wanted - but at what cost?  They've successfully backed a pairing with no interaction whatsoever, with a girl that we have barely seen except in passing glances.  Congratulations to them - the main character is paired with one of the most poorly developed love interests I've ever seen, whose sole contribution to the manga is watching Naruto from afar and blushing.

The fact that they need a movie to put the two of them together is telling of how poorly developed their relationship is and the fact that there is no viable reason for them to even end up together for the time being.  To see Sakura reduced to a housewife dusting bookshelves is ridiculous and sad, so much for growing up and proving she was strong.

I'll hand it to Kishimoto, he is the troll master.  I certainly won't be supporting any of his future works and will definitely NOT be watching the next movie or reading part 3.  To me, the OVA is the real ending.  When I think of the end I'll imagine it was Naruto reaching up to Sakura's face, and her crying out with happiness and leaning down to embrace him.  That was the way it should have ended, all said and done it was the only ending that made sense.



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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:04 PM

Atleast, its obious that NS would make much better family.

 

NH and SS in the epilogue fell impotent, dull and dysfunctional.



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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:04 PM

You know what...Movie Sakura has almost no reason to reject Naruto considering Sasuke is a kittening hermit practically 


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:04 PM

 

I can't even....

 

NH out of nowhere. Sakura is a housewife. This is the ultimate let down. 

 

I think Kishimoto bowed to pressure in the end. I was ready for an open ending. Not an NH one.

 

And yeah, I don't hate Sakura. Kishimoto used her as a plot device. Start to finish. But even worse is Hinata. She didn't even get a romanctic arc. Last we saw of her she was face-down in the dirt after tripping.

 

And yeah, when did Naruto even change his feelings? Where did that come from? Ugh.

 

I agree with you. It feels so surreal, forced and out-of-character...

 

If I hear that Kishimoto got pressured into this, I will be surprised not at the slightest. It would make sense.

 

I do not hate Sakura, either. It is not her fault. Kishimoto decided ruining all her growing up and character development in order to achieve the forced, illogical conclusion what he wanted, turning his character into a mere plot device. I used to read super-hero comic-books and I have seen this dozens of unpleasant times.

 

 

 

I have visited various forums except NB(rabid NH fanboys who cant see kitten due to shipping goggles) and it seems no one is happy with this.Not even genuine NH/SS fans.One SS fan even said that all Sasuke did was stick his kitten into Sakura and then run off to be a deadbeat leaving Sakura taking care of her spawn.Never seen such a kitten epilogue.

 

Seriously? Even they realize what their pairings got kitten development?

 

I am amazed. This is Spider-Man: One More Day again. It was a dumb, scurrilous story tailored to split Peter and MJ up and having a single Spider-Man. And EVERYBODY, even people that did not care for Peter/MJ or hated teh marriage, hated that story.


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:04 PM

Bolt, I am the hokage of the village so try to understand that i cannot be a parent only for you!!!
 
WTF of all, It's really Naruto, the one who has suffered of loneliness because he never had parents...? Kishimoto, what the hell was you thinking? Not to mention, Sasuke also goes to do a tramp and go back in home in a blue moon maybe....

Kishimoto kitten on his main character in more ways than one. Disgusting. Minato wouldn't have treated Naruto his way. How can people honestly be happy about this?

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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:04 PM

She does though. Her forehead. She only looks like Karin because of the glasses

That's all she got? He basically made her look like a SasuKarin daughter, but with Sakura as the mother.
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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:05 PM

Kishi:  What devolopment?  Can't hear you with all of these MONEY.


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:05 PM

You know what...Movie Sakura has almost no reason to reject Naruto considering Sasuke is a kittening hermit practically 

 

isn't that obvious now? Sakura won't never reject naruto simply becaue Naruto won't never make a confession to her. UZUMAKI NARUTO GAVE UP OFF PANEL.


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:06 PM

I hope japanese fans just rage at him so hard ...


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:07 PM

I found the second half of the war arc to be a little contrived. Too many power ups and villains. And the entire thing was just one big battle, no time for reflection or even setting changes. Kaguya was a terrible big bad who popped up at the end all of a sudden only to quickly be beat in like 10 chapters. And to be honest things just got ridiculously convoluted.
 
But I really liked the way Naruto and Sasuke's conflict got wrapped up. 

Exactly.

I agree with most of this

Though i disagree on the sasuke part, his reasons to fight naruto weren't that great in my opinion
I wanted their fight to be something as long and dramatic as the first fight

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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:08 PM

On the plus side, everyone and their mother now are gonna do retcon fanfic, giving the manga a more proper ending. (SakuIno fanficcers, please pull through for this)


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