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#1001 narusaku256

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:49 PM

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why do you write like this! when i read what you said it always end up with an acent! it's kind of weird! but you sound like a kind person! i don't know why!

Guess I am a kind person then XDD. Btw, what does 'When I read what you said, it always end up with an ACENT?' I am sorry I did not understand this line :sweatdrop: Thank you for the compliment as well :)

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:53 PM

I...I do think Atheck is right when he is indirectly saying that Sakura would have a difficulty to defeat an unpredictable opponent who changes his fighting style, strategy and patterns every single time!

But on the other hand, we have to consider this factor as well that we have not scene Sakura fight as such! The only time we saw her fight for real is in Part 1 when they were rookies and in the beginning of Part 2! Its really difficult to judge the winner of this fight especially when we have both the characters who have not been portrayed as fighting as much! The only thing we can do is...build estimations!

 

It doesn't appear like she's made any improvements at all during that time. She failed to react to Omoi when he used the momentum of Karui's body to kick her, albeit she might have been preoccupied with attacking Karui. The lack of attention to her surroundings and of the other opponent's movements doesn't offer any consolation though. She's a brawler, simple as that. She contemplates on how best to land her fists on the enemy while trying to avoid death, if possible, through her medical techniques. There are no spontaneous actions to make her fighting abilities less predictable, no dissimilar attack patterns using anything besides her fists, it's just punch and tank, over and over again. 



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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:54 PM

Guess I am a kind person then XDD. Btw, what does 'When I read what you said, it always end up with an ACENT?' I am sorry I did not understand this line :sweatdrop: Thank you for the compliment as well :)

I read your sentences like this:

 

"we have to consider this factor as well that we have not seen Sakura fight as such! "


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:59 PM

I read your sentences like this:
 
"we have to consider this factor as well that we have not seen Sakura fight as such! "

Oh! Is it that way? Alright, I'll tone it down and reduce the exclamation marks then. Sorry for that if at all you had to face some trouble regarding that...

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 07:01 PM

Oh! Is it that way? Alright, I'll tone it down and reduce the exclamation marks then. Sorry for that if at all you had to face some trouble regarding that...

yeah, it's kind of confusing but i...read it as a conforting intention. Like, you don't want to sound rude, or something like that. That's why i feel you are kind, sfafadsa


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 07:06 PM

 
It doesn't appear like she's made any improvements at all during that time. She failed to react to Omoi when he used the momentum of Karui's body to kick her, albeit she might have been preoccupied with attacking Karui. The lack of attention to her surroundings and of the other opponent's movements doesn't offer any consolation though. She's a brawler, simple as that. She contemplates on how best to land her fists on the enemy while trying to avoid death, if possible, through her medical techniques. There are no spontaneous actions to make her fighting abilities less predictable, no dissimilar attack patterns using anything besides her fists, it's just punch and tank, over and over again. 

Hmmm...I guess she needs something more than just raw strength while facing Hiashi. Maybe polished movements and more refined attacks? Even so....something like finess? I think when we are bringing Hiashi into the picture...someone like Kakashi would be a good opponent for that guy...or even Guy. Asuma....can...prove to be a worthy opponent but I am not entirely sure since we havn't seen him fight...

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 07:10 PM

Im sorry but I highly disagree with athecks notion of Sakura as "just a brawler" that is simply not supported by the manga. The Sasori fight alone proves she has the capacity to understand and predict an opponents moves, to adapt to changing circumstances and adjust her fighting style to suit the opponent.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 07:13 PM

yeah, it's kind of confusing but i...read it as a conforting intention. Like, you don't want to sound rude, or something like that. That's why i feel you are kind, sfafadsa

Yeah XD. Maybe I do sound rude at times but really...that's never my intention..

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 07:13 PM

Hmmm...I guess she needs something more than just raw strength while facing Hiashi. Maybe polished movements and more refined attacks? Even so....something like finess? I think when we are bringing Hiashi into the picture...someone like Kakashi would be a good opponent for that guy...or even Guy. Asuma....can...prove to be a worthy opponent but I am not entirely sure since we havn't seen him fight...

 

That's exactly my point. She puts so much stock into her strength and regeneration that her skill and fluidity in taijutsu wanes. Sakura doesn't have the finesse or technique that skilled martial artists like Guy and Lee have.  


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 07:17 PM

Im sorry but I highly disagree with athecks notion of Sakura as "just a brawler" that is simply not supported by the manga. The Sasori fight alone proves she has the capacity to understand and predict an opponents moves, to adapt to changing circumstances and adjust her fighting style to suit the opponent.

I think that's what Atheck wanted to say. Give her some time to analyse opponen's movements and she'd KO him but throw an unpredictable opponent who changes his attack patterns and strategies every second and she'd have a difficult time adapting to the battle!

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 07:23 PM

 
She also admitted that making split-second decisions isn't a strength of hers.

do you recall when she said this?

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 07:24 PM

 
That's exactly my point. She puts so much stock into her strength and regeneration that her skill and fluidity in taijutsu wanes. Neither Sakura or Tsunade have the finesse or technique that skilled martial artists like Guy and Lee have.  

But...that's what she is. I mean like....devastation battles are her type of battles and if she puts much stock into her movements, her Healing abilities and strength would pale AS COMPARED TO her Taijutsu skills then. Like, concentrate on one and the other diminishes. Something like that. So instead of focusing on Taijutsu in which Hiashi already excells her she might as well concentrate on the abilities which she excells at. And maybe this would put her on an advantage against Hiashi?

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 07:45 PM

The fact that she can alter the terrain to her pleasing already makes her a difficult opponent for the Hyugas. People generally don't give Sakura enough credit...

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 07:49 PM

Have we even seen Hiashi fight? Like, I know he's the leader over the whole Hyuuga clan, and that means that he has to at least be pretty powerful, but how are we able to judge his skills when they haven't been showcased to begin with?
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Posted 03 September 2014 - 07:53 PM

Have we even seen Hiashi fight? Like, I know he's the leader over the whole Hyuuga clan, and that means that he has to at least be pretty powerful, but how are we able to judge his skills when they haven't been showcased to begin with?

That's what I said some posts ago. All we can do is build estimations...

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 07:58 PM

The fact that she can alter the terrain to her pleasing already makes her a difficult opponent for the Hyugas. People generally don't give Sakura enough credit...

You would think that  obliterating 100 of Mini Juubi's in just one punch and creating a huge ass crater would be enough  to get the recognition and end this silly debate , but then again Hyuga's are Konoha's strongest   :facepalm: .


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 08:00 PM

That's what I said some posts ago. All we can do is build estimations...

To me, he seems like he would just be a stronger version of Neji, with a few more techniques in his repertoire. I think Sakura would be able to outlast him. Her stamina has increased significantly over the course of the manga. Plus she does have the Byakugou Seal, so it's not like she wouldn't be able to heal herself from his attacks.
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Posted 03 September 2014 - 08:06 PM

To me, he seems like he would just be a stronger version of Neji, with a few more techniques in his repertoire. I think Sakura would be able to outlast him. Her stamina has increased significantly over the course of the manga. Plus she does have the Byakugou Seal, so it's not like she wouldn't be able to heal herself from his attacks.

If you base it on pure Taijutsu, even Naruto would have problems handling Hiashi. Bring in senjutsu for Naruto and Byakugou for Sakura, they defeat Hiashi.

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 08:12 PM

do you recall when she said this?

 
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But...that's what she is. I mean like....devastation battles are her type of battles and if she puts much stock into her movements, her Healing abilities and strength would pale AS COMPARED TO her Taijutsu skills then. Like, concentrate on one and the other diminishes. Something like that. So instead of focusing on Taijutsu in which Hiashi already excells her she might as well concentrate on the abilities which she excells at. And maybe this would put her on an advantage against Hiashi?

If it's an advantage, it's a crudely developed one. Simply dodging/tanking while trying to run the other person dry in a battle of attrition doesn't inspire much confidence in your skills, just your longevity. Who is to say that this would even be available if Hiashi manages to block Sakura's tenketsu? We don't know for certain if the Byakugou is capable of reopening the points. If she's stripped of her regeneration and chakra then the fight comes down to skill alone. That prospect sounds far more appealing than simply punching and healing your way through every attack that is dealt against you.

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 08:17 PM

 

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