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[Hiraishin]

though sakura's hands doesn't give a me an intimacy impression... it's just weird how kishi did draw her hands around sasuke's belly....  with clenched fists... Maybe she feels so uncomfortable in that shooting during the running? Maybe it's for this that she hasn't her own horse...  And what's wrong with the dressing? lol
 
funny think that all this is a representation of western world..lol

 
I agree. The AU cover was probably only meant to be aesthetically pleasing.
 
I think Sakura's outfit was chosen based on how it looks. (I certainly can't deny that she doesn't look very attractive in that outfit.)
 
I think a lot of people are misreading Sakura's "blush". There is a weird misconception nowadays that a blush immediately can only mean affection of some kind. In the right circumstances a blush can also appear in anime when they're surprised, delighted, sad, interested, etc.
 
In this case, I think it has to do with how fast the horse may be going towards the direction of whoever they seem to be shooting at. So, it could be a bit of surprise with the thrill of riding on a fast horse straight into a battle. Her arms are around Sasuke, but her hands are gripping her own arms, not onto him. So it may very well be that she's only holding on because she has nowhere to hold on to before she falls off (Sasuke is already holding the reigns to the horse). The way that her hat blew off her head can attest to the speed and the fact that she just doesn't want to fall off.

Yeah, normally in that situation (guy and girl on a horse or motorcycle together) you'd imagine the girl to actually have her arms wrapped around and clutching the guy's midsection, instead of just around it but with clenched fists and holding onto her own arm lmao..

[Lilac]

That is just bad writing and I have said it so many times Sasuke's redemption is nothing but forced and everything involved with him for that matter  especially when he doesn't care about his actions , shows no signs of redemption nor does he wants a redemption .  Sasuke's reasons are selfish and he only caught Sakura bc she was useful not bc he cares big difference  not to mention that you just don't let the people you care for die or try to kill them and not giving any kitten about it with zero reaction the Sasuke relationship are complete disaster especially the SS one which barely falls even under any sort of "friendship" .

 

And don't worry I'm not putting any hope in Kishi killing him  that much its clear  but trying to tell convince me by what is shown in the manga that Sasuke cares for them so much and its a great "friendship"  its utter BS  and I would pass any day of my life to have some like that for a "friend" no thank you . 

 

I don't think they have a great friendship at all in Shippu. My point is part I Sasuke did care about Naruto and Sakura (as teammates/friends, nothing more) And part I Sasuke has caught Sakura before:

 

http://www.mangapand...hapter-138.html

 

As for seeing them as important:

 

http://www.mangapand...hapter-133.html

http://www.mangapand...hapter-133.html

 

The friendship was there before. None of it is romantic, but heavily platonic. I think Kishi went overboard with Sasuke's revenge in part II, so it does feel very forced by comparison.

Edited by Lilac, 25 July 2014 - 01:13 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

 

The meaning isn't limited strictly to combat strategies or tactics. The concept of a "genius" is applicable to anything, both in and outside of combat. Like for instance, Sasuke's comprehension and almost perfect mastery over the taijutsu capabilities that were observed for him which he mastered in just a month's time, his academics, or simply having a more level-headed thinking process (this is directed more towards Part 1 than Part 2 though).

You're kind of drawing the line of Streets Smarts vs Book Smarts which I feel describes Naruto vs Sasuke perfectly.

Naruto is street smarts.
He can't pass a test to save his life, but when it comes to muscle memory, fighting on the fly, ability to view the situation and adapt to it, imaginative improvising, and great instinct, Naruto is a genius in that retrospect. It isn't by the book, but at the same time it is unpredictable and a bit dangerous because you don't know whether it would work or not. In a sense, he is a lot more practical in what he does.

Sasuke has book smarts
He can memorize anything and apply it if the situation is similar, he can answer difficult questions and formulate plans, he can analyze a situation and deduce an outcome, and everything he does it relatively by the book. He is very astute with his actions and considers himself a professional. However, he lacks creativity and can't think outside the box. As evident with this fight, all his plan more or less didn't help while Naruto's had higher success rates because he was able to trick his opponents in ways Sasuke never thought about.

Naruto, despite being an idiot at times, might even posses a higher understanding of common sense.

Sasuke is too analytical which is okay, but it costs him when there are unknown variables. If we all did everything by the book, then nothing would ever get really done. Sometimes the best route is to take risks.
 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 25 July 2014 - 01:35 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Save you the trouble:

Minato: Well, let's end this fight.
Naruto: ...
Naruto: Dad...About Sakura-chan. Well, she's not my girlfriend. Well I do love someone but...
Minato: I understand...

There, I save the future.

[Atheck]

To  James S Cassidy:

 

I suppose that makes sense. Thank you for pointing out the discrepancies between the two.

[James S Cassidy]

To  James S Cassidy:

 

I suppose that makes sense. Thank you for pointing out the discrepancies between the two.

You're welcome.

Oh and forgot to mention: I feel Naruto has a lot more combat experience under his belt than Sasuke especially with fighting a wide arrange of opponents using many techniques.

[FireFox]

 

I don't think they have a great friendship at all in Shippu. My point is part I Sasuke did care about Naruto and Sakura (as teammates/friends, nothing more) And part I Sasuke has caught Sakura before:

 

http://www.mangapand...hapter-138.html

 

As for seeing them as important:

 

http://www.mangapand...hapter-133.html

http://www.mangapand...hapter-133.html

 

The friendship was there before. None of it is romantic, but heavily platonic. I think Kishi went overboard with Sasuke's revenge in part II, so it does feel very forced by comparison.

Yes P1 you don't have to show me links I know what was what in P1 at least Sasuke was human if nothing else  but the characters are not the same from that time they grow and they change so is their relationship like with NS . Its meaningless to still hold them to  their P1 selves when all of them changed so much they are not the same brats and even then Sasuke wasn't a very good friend , Sasuke since then has also created new bonds with Taka bonds that he chose himself unlike with T7 which was put in there not by his choice . 

 

Speaking of P1 Sakura's confession itself is the highlight of how good the SS bond was  "You never speak to me not a single word  " at best they were teammates/colleagues but good "friends" I hardly believe that friends at least interact with each other  not to add all the insults that were also present and almost always being indifferent to her their bond was nothing more then being members of T7 teammates . The fact that Sasuke doesn't even reacted (like he did with Naruto this chap and previously with Itachi) when Sakura was about to die speaks volumes of how much he cares about her now and in what light he holds her/them  he's indifferent to her which is even worse then hate . And acknowledging her just bc she useful now doesn't speak very well but then again that's what she wanted from him in the first place acknowledgement .

 

The best that Kishimoto can do right now that doesn't seem forced is that for Sasuke to just acknowledge them as his former teammates which he doesn't even consider them as such now   that is the right way to repair their "bond" . To me the T7 bond with Sasuke is an utter disaster and Sasuke is clearly not comfortable with them while he is with his other team .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 25 July 2014 - 01:54 AM.

[Lilac]

Yes P1 you don't have to show me links I know what was what in P1 at least Sasuke was human if nothing else  but the characters are not the same from that time they grow and they change so is their relationship like with NS . Its meaningless to still hold them to  their P1 selves when all of them changed so much they are not the same brats and even then Sasuke wasn't a very good friend , Sasuke since then has also created new bonds with Taka bonds that he chose himself unlike with T7 which was put in there not by his choice . 

 

Speaking of P1 Sakura's confession itself is the highlight of how good the SS bond was  "You never speak to me not a single word  " at best they were teammates/colleagues but good "friends" I hardly believe that friends at least interact with each other  not to add all the insults that were also present and almost always being indifferent to her their bond was nothing more then being members of T7 teammates . The fact that Sasuke doesn't even reacted (like he did with Naruto this chap and previously with Itachi) when Sakura was about to die speaks volumes of how much he cares about her now and in what light he holds her/them  he's indifferent to her which is even worse then hate . And acknowledging her just bc she useful now doesn't speak very well .

 

The best that Kishimoto can do right now that doesn't seem forced is that for Sasuke to just acknowledge them as his former teammates which he doesn't even consider them as such now   that is the right way to repair their "bond" . To me the T7 bond with Sasuke is an utter disaster and Sasuke is clearly not comfortable with them while he is with his other team .

 

As I said before, once again, I do not think they have a good friendship in part II. Not at all. He tried to kill her! More than once! He's a monster in part II.  But to say Sasuke was only ever rude to Sakura and never did anything nice to her in part I is...false. I love NaruSaku, but I won't ignore Sasuke's friendship with Sakura just because she used to have a crush on him a long time ago. For example, the time he noticed Sakura was down and complimented her:

 

http://www.mangapand...chapter-36.html

http://www.mangapand...chapter-36.html

 

Or the time he became angry at Sakura being hurt while being fueled by the curse seal:

 

http://www.mangapand...chapter-55.html

 

And so on. (Sick of looking at them together now, lol!)

 

Kishimoto may not be the best writer ever, and he has pulled things out of nowhere before (Kaguya, BZ controlling everything, etc) but Sasuke's redemption isn't one of them I believe. I don't see a problem with it. Sakura is over her love of Sasuke now, and will just be friends with him later on.

[FireFox]

 

As I said before, once again, I do not think they have a good friendship in part II. Not at all. He tried to kill her! More than once! He's a monster in part II.  But to say Sasuke was only ever rude to Sakura and never did anything nice to her in part I is...false. I love NaruSaku, but I won't ignore Sasuke's friendship with Sakura just because she used to have a crush on him a long time ago. For example, the time he noticed Sakura was down and complimented her:

 

http://www.mangapand...chapter-36.html

http://www.mangapand...chapter-36.html

 

Or the time he became angry at Sakura being hurt while being fueled by the curse seal:

 

http://www.mangapand...chapter-55.html

 

And so on. (Sick of looking at them together now, lol!)

 

Kishimoto may not be the best writer ever, and he has pulled things out of nowhere before (Kaguya, BZ controlling everything, etc) but Sasuke's redemption isn't one of them I believe. I don't see a problem with it. Sakura is over her love of Sasuke now, and will just be friends with him later on.

I never said he didn't do any good in P1 I even said there was a time when he acted like a decent human being but even then that friendship wasn't any good . And that's good and all but like I said those parts of him being a human being toward her are small and P1 is P1 I look at the manga as a whole and their progression  and toward the course of this manga this 686 chapters and all that has happened all of that seems rather forced now that's all i'm saying Kishi will do that like I said Sasuke will acknowledge them as T7 but all of that will be forced bc Sasuke doesn't want that and its not working for it  like everything in this manga its all handed to him and Naruto is gonna literary beat that down his throat . The execution of his redemption is forced and it will be done in the very last moment  .  

 

To me a friendship when that said friend is trying to kill you more then once without zero remorse its not a friendship at all its disgusting and I don't support it the same with NaruSasu  just bc Kishimoto will pull it at the end doesn't mean that I'm gonna agree with him and like it and say that its beautiful they are such a good friends in the end or any kind of that kitten  when the execution of all of that is bad .  

[Gojira]

 

Oh yes that make sense. It's not because you're not understanding it that doesn't make sense.

 

If Sakura would choose Naruto because Sasuke is bad, then Naruto would look like a silver medal, as you and some others said.

That's why Kishimoto is restoring the bond between Sakura and Sasuke / he's also restoring team7 general bond.

Then Sakura will choose Naruto because of Naruto, and not because she's upset about Sasuke.

Their journey together, searching for Sasuke made her realise who Naruto really is.

At the end of the journey, she will realise she wants to live with him and no one else.

And then Naruto will not be a silver medal at all, like he would have been if he had accepted the broken confession of Sakura back then.

I thought you were referring to Naruto

 

Hasn't she already realized who he is? She can't really go through an epiphany of something she already knows. I don't really get why people think Sakura is gonna come to a sudden realization, if Kishi wanted to go that route he would have done it in one of the many chances he got. It was pretty much established that she realized her feelings for naruto sometime off-panel, just like she fell out of love with Sasuke at some point off-panel.

 

Kishi has an interesting habit of saying "kitten transitions". Its all about confusing the audience to get them guessing god forbide he actually reveals what a character really feels.

 

Her rebuilding the bond with Sasuke doesn't really change the situation from why she chose Naruto in the confession. Naruto saved the world and Sasuke is a wildcard.

 

On top of that we know Sakura is going to choose Naruto....problem is she's not in love with Sasuke anymore so there isn't really a choice that's needed to be made, thanks to the murder attempts we'll never know for sure if Naruto is a silver medal or not.

Edited by Pepsi, 25 July 2014 - 05:02 AM.

[tekopi]

This is the first that I see the thread reach more than 40 in just a few days compared to several chapters ago. Oh well  . And I am way too lazy to browse through all these pages. Anyway, about the cover page? I don't think we should be tick with it, well I think it is for teasing/commercial purposes, other than end pairing related, y'know. My impression when I see it is that Kishi seems to like to do AU cover so much these past few chapters and tease everybody with his trolling. And the movie announcement, if he is going to cramped all the confession, N/S fight, etc. etc. in the movie, I wonder what is it duration will be...4 1/2 hours? Splendid...then it is a must buy story. LoL

[only Naruto]

 

I didn't say that to prove SasuSaku could happen.

I said that because some people seem to believe that Sakura will hate Sasuke forever, where she's not even hating him right now.

That's totally OOC.

 

Team7 will be repaired, and Sakura and Sasuke really had bonds at the beginnings.

Sasuke cared for her as much as he cared for Naruto, and Kishimoto is going to restore that.

It's already obvious Sasuke doesn't really is indifferent to them, even if it's the first interpretation of the story.

 

 

 

Yeah it's what he thinks at the moment, what he's interpreting at the moment. But it's also pretty clear he's unsure or his analysis. He's using words that express a vague idea, as I said before.

 

It's true it's only the vision of Kakashi, but I personally think it's Kishimoto who wanted to say that, and it's also Kishimoto who wanted it to be vague because he just doesn't want to ruin the surprise. LOL

 

To conclude, Sakura will NEVER hate Sasuke, I know some people would like it but this just will never happen. Same for Naruto.

 

Sakura and Sasuke (and Naruto) will grow new bonds and they will be friends at the end.

And Sakura will choose Naruto when Sasuke will be good again, and not because Sasuke is bad.

 

.i agree with u its kishimoto stating through kakashi ,.about team 7.and i just re red the 675 chapter (mangapanda) . and this is what i have, kishimoto is telling us through kakashi (that sakuras feelings should have changed after all what happened with team 7.in the last 3  years right? .and . the reason tells us that yes her feelings should have changed..) .

 

but since its kakashi and not sakura who said this . ill be on the safe side and say that am sure by 80%(after it was (100%)  that sakuras feelings changed from (crush) to  only because she is a kind girl .she will save him from darkness even thou he dont deserve it .. . so you are right he wants to make it vague .and not to ruin the surprise for us  , ..( ss fans are 100% sure that .her love is bigger and deeper now seems that kishis vague jutsu doesnt work on them)lol

 

agree, he will never make sakura hates him .the same thing with naruto. and i dont want her to hate sasuke . actually i want sasuke  to be her best friend and choose naruto over him. .and it seems  that is what kishi is going to do .(as we hope.)

I didn't expect Kishi to draw Sakura being comfortable with holding Sasuke considering all the times he tried to kill her. But then again, he makes Naruto consider Sasuke as a great friend, so my expectations should be kept low.

. i dont think naruto consider sasuke . as a great friend . he considers him as  a lost friend .that he must save . cause naruto knows the pain sasuke been through . and naruto was saved from darkness. so he will never give up to save him.. its a nice thing  for me  . .

[oksus]

There's something hilarious about reading NH/SS post that says how this new movie will be canon, unlike RTN, because Kishi will do more work on it, and how it will prove SS & NH are canon.

I can't wait for them to yell how it is not canon once the movie comes out and is pro NS, just like RTN was :)

[tekopi]

@oksus, what they failed to see is that, because of that RTN (that NS is 'not canon' in it as per their saying) and have greater rating unlike all other Naruto movies, Kishi will be involved fully in the last Naruto movie. Thanks to that RTN, they can see NH/SS become 'canon', as per their saying.

 

(What.Am.I.Saying.Just.Now.LoL)

Edited by tekopi, 25 July 2014 - 05:01 AM.

[luffyq1]

There's something hilarious about reading NH/SS post that says how this new movie will be canon, unlike RTN, because Kishi will do more work on it, and how it will prove SS & NH are canon.

I can't wait for them to yell how it is not canon once the movie comes out and is pro NS, just like RTN was :)

That's pretty sad.

[Hanabi]

 

 

This is so cute. 

 

Don't know if anyone has answered you yet, like 8-9 pages were added the last time I was looking through the thread.

 

This is actually the perfect reiteration of all the NS moments that have supported us so far (well, maybe not all of them, but some of the biggest hints from third parties thus far.)

 

Sai: "Aren't you going to confess?"

Gaara: "CPR..."

Minato: "Naruto's girlfriend, whom resembles Kushina"

Yamato: "I can tell just by looking at you. Sakura, you really..."

 

I can't think of the exact chapters these are referring to off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure everyone here knows which parts these are referring to.

 

All of their observations summed up in this cute little drawing.

 

i once drew a fanart like that

minus the toad and toad boss and gaara though

[Princess Iris]

Those who *still* think Sakura is fangirling by seeing the blush...then you may need to read the chapter again in which karin INTENTIONALLY hug Sasuke....That was 100% fangirling...that too in recent chapter ( i dun remember the no. Though)

She is hesitating to hold Sasuke but has to hold him.....as u can see her posture seems like she will fall

It is not even fanservice ....cuz it has NO significant SS here

The picture i guezz, shows difference between Karin & Sakura...over Sasuke's feelings...

The cover kinda PROVES....she is not over Sasuke! ! <3 that makes me happy

[六道仙人]

Save you the trouble:

Minato: Well, let's end this fight.
Naruto: ...
Naruto: Dad...About Sakura-chan. Well, she's not my girlfriend. Well I do love someone but...
Minato: I understand...

There, I save the future.

 

save this too

 

On the bench in Konoha village, naruto approaches someone who is here..

Naruto: Ehi someone! Do you know why am i here?

Someone: I love you! Even my dad knows this ttebayo!
Sasuke *blushing*: Me too, Naruto

 

How you can reach the masterpiece of trolling

[rikakim94]

i once drew a fanart like that

minus the toad and toad boss and gaara though

 

I wish ns was actually this simple and not complicated with the worn out  love triangle.

[narusaku256]

i once drew a fanart like that

minus the toad and toad boss and gaara though

I always wanted to see Jiraiya being physically present to see how his student has surpassed him in every way and also to give NS his blessings. Sigh...Ero senin