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[TouKen4Life3g]

If anyone care, Sakura in viz translation said, "Sasuke...didn't even..." So yeah...the point is he don't care. Reminds me of Bakura.

"My name is Marik"
"I don't care."

[narusaku256]

If anyone care, Sakura in viz translation said, "Sasuke...didn't even..." So yeah...the point is he don't care. Reminds me of Bakura.

"My name is Marik"
"I don't care."

But wasn't it apparent to her, before hand?

[TouKen4Life3g]

But wasn't it apparent to her, before hand?

But they're in a team. I mean she went from hate to don't care. It's like wrestling. People boo at you but at hindsight, at least you caused reactions. But if you get nothing, it's worse because they know you're there, but they will act like you don't exist. It's bad.

[narusaku256]

But they're in a team. I mean she went from hate to don't care. It's like wrestling. People boo at you but at hindsight, at least you caused reactions. But if you get nothing, it's worse because they know you're there, but they will act like you don't exist. It's bad.

Right! Got what you meant to say. Man, Sasuke is worse XD. I don't know what makes Naruto and Sakura still cling on to him XD

[Gojira]

I still think it should have been Kakashi or Naruto. Kishi's giving SS the false impression that tehre's still something there.

[TrueSacrifice]

Right! Got what you meant to say. Man, Sasuke is worse XD. I don't know what makes Naruto and Sakura still cling on to him XD

 

In short their bond and the plot.

 

Kishimoto may not have demonstrated very well how those bonds formed so strongly but they did and now Naruto and Sakura will stop at nothing to get Sasuke back. I somewhat agree with the people who complain about this aspect. It seems more like their feelings are based on satisfying the themes and plot then their own experiences. It comes across as somewhat forced. Personally I have mixed feelings on the whole matter.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Right! Got what you meant to say. Man, Sasuke is worse XD. I don't know what makes Naruto and Sakura still cling on to him XD

Well, going by Kakashi, it's her duty. She's a sweetheart. Naruto do have a valid reason, like it or not. I mean if Sasuke never got phased by Naruto, then yeah. But on the other hand, he probably the same as Sakura. I know I know, people want them to say screw it, but morale is morale. Plus, without going to religion, the pope did forgive the guy who tried to kill him, so pretty much let it be bygone.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 19 May 2014 - 08:21 PM.

[Chatte]

https://mobile.twitt...183589863976960

Hmm. I prefer white or light grey as his hair colour...

Interesting hair color...

[narusaku256]

 
In short their bond and the plot.
 
Kishimoto may not have demonstrated very well how those bonds formed so strongly but they did and now Naruto and Sakura will stop at nothing to get Sasuke back. I somewhat agree with the people who complain about this aspect. It seems more like their feelings are based on satisfying the themes and plot then their own experiences. It comes across as somewhat forced. Personally I have mixed feelings on the whole matter.

When it comes to this, I have myself answered this question many times and yet I still ask myself why do they still cling on to Sasuke! For Naruto I can understand, because it is his Nature and all the more he made a promise with Itachi too, right? As for Sakura, again I've answered this question many times myself, yet I still ask myself the same question. Even I am a bit messed up about this stuff now.

@4Life maybe yes. But will he really get redemption without any efforts? As in, Obito did undertook some responsibilities as his redemption and so did Kabuto. But should Sasuke be really handed that redemption?

Edited by narusaku256, 19 May 2014 - 08:29 PM.

[TrueSacrifice]

@narusaku256

 

I don't let it get to me. I just accept it for what it is. It doesn't really harm the story imho.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Again, she's a kind girl that won't let a person go to darkness, especially if she knows him. I mean she hasn't talk about her bond with him at all because well, she most likely know she don't have any. She said it herself in that confession chapter. It's just that he's Team 7 and Naruto pretty much does have connection, so it's not all lost.

[narusaku256]

@narusaku256
 
I don't let it get to me. I just accept it for what it is. It doesn't really harm the story imho.

Yeah, it does not harm the story but it does harm the characters which is well, not good IMO.

@4Life It would be really great if it was just that! But Sakura's reactions tell a bit different tale. Maybe, I am looking too much into things or I am not looking just deep enough! You know, during that Summit Arc she did come to terms with reality that Sasuke doesn't give a damn about her, let alone caring and at the extreme, returning her feelings. But why this revelation all of a sudden in the last chapter? Though we expected that Team 7 would improve on their flaws, but it was a similar scenario to the first time.

Edited by narusaku256, 19 May 2014 - 08:46 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, it does not harm the story but it does harm the characters which is well, not good IMO.

To be fair, they did spend a year before hell break loose, so you have to say they bonded. I guess if we have the same as Hashirama and Madara bond timeline, it will be more credible but that would risk Naruto and Sasuke growing older than 16.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, it does not harm the story but it does harm the characters which is well, not good IMO.

@4Life It would be really great if it was just that! But Sakura's reactions tell a bit different tale. Maybe, I am looking too much into things or I am not lloking just deep enough!

Well, here's the thing, we don't know the buildup morale is yet. Like how certain if this whole thing is about love. What if it's something else. If anything, this chapter is ambiguous on what Sakura wanted from Sasuke. To show care for his team? For her in terms of personal reason? She was the only one that got attacked. Hard to say so stay put and wait on how this unfolds.

[narusaku256]

Well, here's the thing, we don't know the buildup morale is yet. Like how certain if this whole thing is about love. What if it's something else. If anything, this chapter is ambiguous on what Sakura wanted from Sasuke. To show care for his team? For her in terms of personal reason? She was the only one that got attacked. Hard to say so stay put and wait on how this unfolds.

Not trying to spark a huge debate as such, but just putting up something that intrigues me. It is apparent to Sakura that Sasuke doesn't give a damn to her, let alone caring for her and the extreme, return her feelings. So what I am trying to say is why a sudden revelation from Sakura when she knew about that already? If her desire is like Naruto, she won't be affected by what Sasuke thinks of her just like Naruto is not affected by what Sasuke thinks of him. She got upset over the fact that Sasuke did not seem to care about her and the whole scene made it look like she wanted him to worry about her and not Naruto. Don't get me wrong here. We all expected that the flaws Kakashi stated in part 1 during the first bell test would not be repeated, but to me, it seemed that it was the same case. Maybe I am wrong. I'd really be happy to be proven wrong, actually.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It still applies the morale of this buildup because we need to know why is this even happening. Why all the buildup. Why all on Sakura? Again, this is the closest we can get with Team 7 being together. What is Kishi trying to tell us in the end of all this? What is the morale? We don't know what's the point until the end arrives. Would your point be proven wrong? Would it be right? Who knows. That's the journey.

[TrueSacrifice]

 

Not trying to spark a huge debate as such, but just putting up something that intrigues me. It is apparent to Sakura that Sasuke doesn't give a damn to her, let alone caring for her and the extreme, return her feelings. So what I am trying to say is why a sudden revelation from Sakura when she knew about that already? If her desire is like Naruto, she won't be affected by what Sasuke thinks of her just like Naruto is not affected by what Sasuke thinks of him. She got upset over the fact that Sasuke did not seem to care about her and the whole scene made it look like she wanted him to worry about her and not Naruto. Don't get me wrong here. We all expected that the flaws Kakashi stated in part 1 during the first bell test would not be repeated, but to me, it seemed that it was the same case. Maybe I am wrong. I'd really be happy to be proven wrong, actually.

 

I really think people are reading too much into this bit. Sakura already knows that Naruto is worried about her and she reassured him that she was fine. Even though she should probably know by now, the fact that Sasuke doesn't care about her well-being at all still hurts her. As Kakashi stated she still loves him be it more platonic or romantic in nature. Also it's probably not that Naruto doesn't care about what Sasuke thinks of him it's just that he understands that aspect of Sasuke better than Sakura does and had a different kind of relationship with him.

 

Ask yourself this as well. Do you honestly think if Naruto pointedly ignored Sakura after she was hurt that she wouldn't care or notice?

 

One more thing I don't think the events of the bell test are really relevant to what happened in this chapter. If that were the case shouldn't Naruto have charged in first?

Edited by TrueSacrifice, 19 May 2014 - 09:32 PM.

[Hanabi]

apparently people have been saying this is the jump live official coloring of 676, i'm really curious about the pink-brown hair.

http://www.mangabird.com/naruto-6765

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

apparently people have been saying this is the jump live official coloring of 676, i'm really curious about the pink-brown hair.
http://www.mangabird.com/naruto-6765

Why Obito is on full Zyzz mode?

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 May 2014 - 09:55 PM.

[TrueSacrifice]

apparently people have been saying this is the jump live official coloring of 676, i'm really curious about the pink-brown hair.

http://www.mangabird.com/naruto-6765

 

It's strikingly similar to Hagoromo's. It's already been theorized that Madara is in the guise of the other brother hasn't it? That's the theory I've been working with anyway ever since that character was first shown.