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#10081 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:13 PM

Oh and if you go by Final Fantasy, summons are there too. Funny, because Sakura has one. So yeah, anything is an insult.

I wonder if that person is the only one to hate on my post.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 19 October 2013 - 06:13 PM.


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:20 PM

also high level white mages have powerful summons  :excited: (Eiko & Garnet from Final Fantasy IX)

 
 

i know right.. i'm confused by how people think k9 is more relevant than sakura.. even though sakura and tsunade are helping thousands of shinobis..

There is obviously a reason that when playing any magic associated game, white mage/healer is always the highest difficulty. For example, Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology when playing as a Cleric/Healer/WhiteMage it is much hard because you can't control  you're team members, so all you're basically doing is  increasing your team members stats and healing them. But if you train your player character properly it can do some serious magic damage.

 

EDIT: Whoever haters thinks are fodders are useless. So If Sakura is healing fodder ninja that automatically makes her useless. SMH


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:22 PM

Well, Soul and Maka from Soul Eater, I don't think it has that much of a buildup for romance, but NS got a lot. IchiRuki got the friends down, but sign of more, well it's there, but this one Kubo can escape as much as I don't want to think this. Well, you could argue for Chad for not being main, but Orihime is one. The problem is that Kubo writes along the way, so it's not all that planned. Now, well it's more intact, but the previous damage was heavy so here we are. Again, it's not about fighting, it's about the character and Orihime got them, which is good, but the power she has could do some helping but for whatever reason, good or not, she was sidelined, only to have the other to do it. Why? Why not use both? That's like Tsunade telling Sakura to stand there and watch as we win the war. That said the other problem is that they are done like a side character. There's no second goal that is not in lined with other, it's just what it is. I guess this is the way that I was addressing for adventurous character.

 

Sakura is ongoing character that continues to evolve because her character is about learning the reality as well as getting to the level that she too can protect her team. Not to mention the situation that Naruto keeps placing himself in, which is currently going on. In physical, you can say she's done with Sasuke, but now, her mentally is soon to be done. The thing is Sakura and Naruto are both learning the cold side of the world and both of them have a reaction to them whether they're similar or not. But you know, I can't really complain. It is a different series altogether in the end. So, can't really rant. Still, it did have a good chance of becoming a really good one to me. It doesn't need to be perfect but it doesn't need to lose its momentum.

 

Hm, I suppose I can somewhat agree with that, though I do feel that Soul and Maka's relationship was a lot closer than Naruto and Sakura's, but NaruSaku has been specifically built for a romantic conclusion, where Soul/Maka was not. I'm not at all acquainted with IchiRuki or Bleach to add my two cents there. I agree with what you said in your second paragraph about Sakura.



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:23 PM

I wonder if that person is the only one to hate on my post.

 

There is another one :D

 

So your answer is nothing by default 'cause there's nothing relevant in that link?

I asked a straight question, just give me a straight answer, all those fancy wall of text won't help.

 

And this is the response from the one I been debating already.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:29 PM

 
Hm, I suppose I can somewhat agree with that, though I do feel that Soul and Maka's relationship was a lot closer than Naruto and Sakura's, but NaruSaku has been specifically built for a romantic conclusion, where Soul/Maka was not. I'm not at all acquainted with IchiRuki or Bleach to add my two cents there. I agree with what you said in your second paragraph about Sakura.

The thing is once they're friends, they can talk and share stuff easily. I mean it literally start off when they're already cool, so you easily get more out of good friends talking. Many stories usually go with "who are you" start like Bleach, Fairy Tail, One Piece, sports, and so on, and just build from there but they usually go with friendship right away, never doubting anything, though One Piece did start off with Nami just using Luffy to get her goal but gradually growing to like the crew, but you get my point.

Naruto, on the other hand, actually start that they know each other BUT one really don't like the other. Now that's a bit different. Usually they can joke one another and one would be like I hate you in a way you can somewhat easily tell that they will be couple without even going deeper. Granted you can say the same for Naruto, but you get what I mean. As I pointed out many times, every heroine don't need to have the same requirement as this one. No heroine is perfect. When it comes down to it, it's matter of preference.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:36 PM

The thing is once they're friends, they can talk and share stuff easily. I mean it literally start off when they're already cool, so you easily get more out of good friends talking. Many stories usually go with "who are you" start like Bleach, Fairy Tail, One Piece, sports, and so on, and just build from there but they usually go with friendship right away, never doubting anything, though One Piece did start off with Nami just using Luffy to get her goal but gradually growing to like the crew, but you get my point.

Naruto, on the other hand, actually start that they know each other BUT one really don't like the other. Now that's a bit different. Usually they can joke one another and one would be like I hate you in a way you can somewhat easily tell that they will be couple without even going deeper. Granted you can say the same for Naruto, but you get what I mean. As I pointed out many times, every heroine don't need to have the same requirement as this one. No heroine is perfect. When it comes down to it, it's matter of preference.

 

I think that's one of the things I love most about NaruSaku. They had a rocky start but they have grown so much and it makes for such a dynamic relationship, it's a shame more people don't take the time to see it for what it is, two strong, good hearted people who grow to care for each other and support one another. They face their difficulties (like the confession) and come out stronger for it in the end. 



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:43 PM

 
There is another one :D
 
And this is the response from the one I been debating already.

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Oh boy...

Ok, first of all, what's considered a main character in Bleach then? No one not named Ichigo? Second, I am talking about heroine, so now we disapproving that she's a heroine, even though there's one time she was ranked in top 10 heroine in one specific year? Thank you for making me feel good that she's a support character. Surely everyone wants her to be support character but whatever you say now makes us happy. That's insulting to Kubo's writing. Heck, anyone would feel insulted with those comment to their hard work character, especially main characters.

Now for the second part, at what part am I being biased? Do you know why I greatly appreciated AoT? Because the villains are many, not one man or so. You will have some that are stronger than others, but that doesn't make others easier. In that world, it's always hard difficult and it only can go higher as more of them comes in. Yes, they have one ace in their sleeve, but again, still needs help. I can't go on further without spoiling, so whatever.

Not sure what part I need to answer you guys, note, you guys, not that user, but you can always ask me. For those who don't like my post, well, fine, I'm not here to convert you. All I know is I'm getting many reps by many in tumblr for the first time and many new followers. It may sound like feeding my ego, but really, I'm only glad that people take their time to read it. That's all I can care for.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:46 PM

 

Yeah it was! :D

 

 

I played as a mage on WOW. And I kicked ass :D

 

Apperenly almost anything related to Sakura this days is an insult.

 

If Sakura was among rookies people would bash her for not using her own power and that she was brought to rookie level status (since she is a MC). If she is not people still bash her.

 

Confused by this logic I am. :D

 

Yeah, I recognized him by the "lol".  He uses that at least once in his posts.  From that, you get the impression he's trolling you.  He's one I've just about given up debating seriously with, and I'm not the only one as I've encountered another a few others on the Bleach threads who haven't gotten through to him either.  He's one who believes mass opinion over actually manga facts.  I have gotten a headache from debating with him on the "Sasuke is NOT the main villain" thread.  I'm Kurohane by the way on mangafox. We may have run into each other on there and not even know it.

 

 

There is another one :D

 

And this is the response from the one I been debating already.

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I can see some negative views may have come.  That's normal for anything these days, but there should be positive opinions, from non-haters. 

 

Yep, that's D1982.  He is one who would ignore your points and make such a statement.


Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 19 October 2013 - 10:16 PM.


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 07:34 PM

NaruSaku4Life3g Thanks! And just you know I read your post and I think it's amazing. I am sorry if me bringing you this guys post here ruined your mood. :(

 

 

Yeah, I recognized him by the "lol".  He uses that at least once in his posts.  From thatm you get the impression he's trolling you.  He's one I've just about given up debating seriously with, and I'm not the only one as I've encountered another a few others on the Bleach threads who haven't gotten through to him either.  He's one who believes mass opinion over actually manga facts.  I have gotten a headache from debating with him on the "Sasuke is NOT the main villain" thread.  I'm Kurohane by the way on mangafox. We may have run into each other on there an not even know it.

 

 

I can see some negative views may have come.  That's normal for anything these days, but there should be positive opinions, from non-haters. 

 

Yep, that's D1982.  He is one who would ignore your points and make such a statement.

 

Yeah he can do that! :D I am Skymk there btv :) nice to meet you! :)

 

I am currently debating with him in chapter thread. Where he says Sakura is not heroic. I pointed out that she risked her life to save Chiyo. Yet he denyed it by saying she is a medic. So in his opinion. Sakura can never do any heroic attacks because she is a medic. Logic simple fails :D

 

And I know about that thread. Been posting there my self. I mean no offense or anything. But 90% of time I spetn reading posts on MF makes me think how can so many people be ******?


Edited by milan kyuubi, 19 October 2013 - 07:36 PM.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 07:48 PM

NaruSaku4Life3g Thanks! And just you know I read your post and I think it's amazing. I am sorry if me bringing you this guys post here ruined your mood. :(

 

 

Yeah he can do that! :D I am Skymk there btv :) nice to meet you! :)

 

I am currently debating with him in chapter thread. Where he says Sakura is not heroic. I pointed out that she risked her life to save Chiyo. Yet he denyed it by saying she is a medic. So in his opinion. Sakura can never do any heroic attacks because she is a medic. Logic simple fails :D

 

And I know about that thread. Been posting there my self. I mean no offense or anything. But 90% of time I spetn reading posts on MF makes me think how can so many people be ******?

 

Lol your skymk? i seen you posting the NaruSaku , SasuKarin , SasuSaku, NaruHina pic 


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 07:52 PM

NaruSaku4Life3g Thanks! And just you know I read your post and I think it's amazing. I am sorry if me bringing you this guys post here ruined your mood. :(

Oh no, it didn't. In fact, I was more motivated to write down more explanation and my take on heroine as well as why one thing should not be disregarded. It's really frustrated to hear how medic or whatever is not doing good. In the word of Doug Walker, the kitten is wrong being medic. In fact, it's great to save lives, rather than destroying one. Look, it's nothing wrong with getting both perks but what I'm trying to say is when Sakura is around, she's always in work of big responsibility. If you really say she has done nothing here, then clearly, you should just quit.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 09:57 PM

:)

Saw this on FB. :)


Edited by Baka chan, 19 October 2013 - 09:58 PM.


 


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 09:58 PM

:)

Saw this on FB. :)

Nice one, but last two images are from a filler episode.



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 09:59 PM

:)

Saw this on FB. :)

Inb4 that's filler which it is.

 

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 10:57 PM

:)

Saw this on FB. :)

 

 Ok, I know that's just a filler, but holy geez at that last panel. Are you guys sure that the anime is favoring NH? Because these endings are clearly telling another story.


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 10:58 PM

 
 Ok, I know that's just a filler, but holy geez at that last panel. Are you guys sure that the anime is favoring NH? Because these endings are clearly telling another story.

Anime favors Hinata. It's just that her character leads to Naruto.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 11:01 PM

But the new NH counter argument is that Hinata doesn't look worried when Sakura hugged him because she knows there is nothing but friendship between them. ^ :wacko:


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 11:04 PM

But the new NH counter argument is that Hinata doesn't look worried when Sakura hugged him because she knows there is nothing but friendship between them. ^ :wacko:

You know, what is our take if Sakura was part of those tails of friendship?

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 11:12 PM

But the new NH counter argument is that Hinata doesn't look worried when Sakura hugged him because she knows there is nothing but friendship between them. ^ :wacko:

The thing with NH is that they know nothing. What does  Hnata know besides " Naruto kun" or " Naruto kun's big hand"? What does she know? I ask myself this all the time. What does she know beside Nauto's Nindo?



 


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 11:14 PM

You know, what is our take if Sakura was part of those tails of friendship?

I would wonder why she had to stop healing, because only she can do that among the rookies. Sai can not heal, that's why he took her place.

 

But I wouldn't think much of it, I don't think Kishi is trying to tell us anything(he honestly doesn't need to tell us NS will happen anymore), because this possible writing technique is so little and weak it might not even be there.

The thing with NH is that they know nothing. What does  Hnata know besides " Naruto kun" or " Naruto kun's big hand"? What does she know? I ask myself this all the time. What does she know beside Nauto's Nindo?

I agree. Even though she looked at his painful childhood, she didn't see him. She didn't see his suffering through his eyes(for all we know), she got one thing out of it and that is inspiration. That's all we know, that is all she has commented on when talking or thinking about him. His determination, his ninjaway. Because that means something to her, it affects her. That is fact and the rest is headcanons.


Edited by sushi., 19 October 2013 - 11:18 PM.

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