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[narusaku4ver]

This information is coming from her voice actress though. She would have been told of this because it's her character potentially getting cut from the series, (i.e. her job ending). That's why I'm more inclined to consider this as true than I am regarding the other rumors you listed.

And? Since a VA knows what will happen on the story? if even the editor does not know what will happen on Naruto's future.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 11 February 2013 - 10:46 PM.

[T XD]

But... I don't get something. Kishi wanted to kill her, like, kill her kill her ? I mean, I can't figure out why he would want to do that for Sakura.

I'm having a hard time for this information to sink in !

Edited by T XD, 11 February 2013 - 10:48 PM.

[narusaku4ver]

But... I don't get something. Kishi wanted to kill her, like, kill her kill her ? I mean, I can't figure out that he wanted to do that for Sakura.

I'm having a hard time for this information to sink in !

An author always have to try to figure out all the possible situations, wanted is a strong word.
Killing her would mean that he'd give up on her character and that he failed to draw her as a heroine that's why he cut off this scenario.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 11 February 2013 - 10:49 PM.

[Tsubaki]

This is sort of off topic, but I heard that originally, Kishimoto was going to have Sasuke kill Sakura at the Summit (which may have made the whole confession fiasco seem more heroic, like he said he intended.)

I don't know if I trust the source or not though... It's a friend of mine that also has Nakamura Chie on facebook. He's been talking with her for years and has become very close with her. Apparently, she told him this...

(He's a major NaruSaku and Sakura fan as well, so he wouldn't have said this out of hatred for Sakura.)

Also, according to my friend, Chie told him that Sakura's fans saved her character from getting killed off.

Srsly if it is true so I don't even know what to think about Kishimoto anymore because there's no meaning in killing Sakura aside from take the burden of doing something with her character of his shoulders.

[Slextrem]

Honestly, it's best to get the source from Kishi himself. Otherwise, why show some love for Sakura regardless of her screen time for now. Kishi has shown to like her and even asked if she was popular in USA. That said it's best to hear it from the mangaka himself. Even then, that's not reliable enough.

The V.A. would have had Kishimoto as her source... Ultimately, I agree with you. It's better for fans to get their information from the author, but he's not going to leak out something big like that to the fans. I'm not saying this is 100% true, but it is a source that I'm more inclined to believe than say word from another fan.

[narusaku4ver]

The V.A. would have had Kishimoto as her source... Ultimately, I agree with you. It's better for fans to get their information from the author, but he's not going to leak out something big like that to the fans. I'm not saying this is 100% true, but it is a source that I'm more inclined to believe than say word from another fan.

So keep it for yourself this source is not reliable.

[Slextrem]

And? Since a VA knows what will happen on the story? if even the editor does not know what will happen on Naruto's future.

I'm not suggesting that the VA knows what is going to happen in the future. This is information about a possibility that Kishimoto was (maybe) considering, but then took a different route. It's just something to think about.

Edited by Slextrem, 11 February 2013 - 10:52 PM.

[narusaku4ver]

I'm not suggesting that the VA knows what is going to happen in the future. This is information about a possibility that Kishimoto was considering, but then took a different route. It's just something to think about.

Even if he was considering means nothing.
An author as to figure out the outcome of his actions the same he did with the confession he could draw it on all possible means, but he took a route where he does not scream NS canon but at the same time despict her as a heroine.
Fandom does not save characters, otherwise Jiraiya would be alive.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 11 February 2013 - 10:55 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Then why on earth even do RtN with Sakura, who supposedly be dead. That should have been proof that she wasn't intended to, much like Hinata wasn't meant to be Naruto's love interest, let alone even knowing him. What's worse is that it will destroy the whole concept of surpassing. So going second place is now ok? Got it. Plus, ever since her bash on SS pic, she seems like a normal person who can say anything. Kishi doesn't indicate of killing her nor hating her. Else why defend her. Trust me, I can go on and on and on, but I know you know better.

[Atheck]

Could this individual perhaps provide a screenshot of this conversation that they had with the voice actress as proof? Not that I believe it is not true but I would prefer some evidence to verify their connection to Nakamura and the conversation that they had with her.

[Slextrem]

Guys, this would have been an option he was considering before her confession arc. As in, over three years ago. Maybe he had something completely different planned out then, but has changed his mind about it. This has nothing to do with Road to Ninja, which was started only a year ago. It has nothing to do with what's going on in the series now. It's something that he may have been considering a few years ago, but changed his mind.

Maybe he was going to have all of Team Seven die so that they could be happy together in the next life, like Naruto says during his confrontation with Sasuke? Who knows. Fact is, he didn't choose to take that route, so stop fretting. I just mentioned it to spark some conversation about the confession. I didn't mean to cause a sh*tstorm and get attacked for leaving the comment. *cough*narusaku4ever*cough*

Atheck, that's a great idea. I've asked for a screenshot.

Edited by Slextrem, 11 February 2013 - 11:03 PM.

[Tsubaki]

The VA's barely speak with the mangaka and as far as I know they only meet in SJ events.
and tbh It's hard for me to believe that Kishi would talk so openly about the future of his manga with others people that way ( as @narusaku4ver said , usually even the editors know the future of the manga) but if you said that your source is reliable... I really don't know what to think anymore.

[Arachnia]

The VA's barely speak with the mangaka and as far as I know they only meet in SJ events.
and tbh It's hard for me to believe that Kishi would talk so openly about the future of his manga with others people that way ( as @narusaku4ver said , usually even the editors know the future of the manga) but if you said that your source is reliable... I really don't know what to think anymore.

best thing is too wait now and see what happens i still say 50% 50%

[Slextrem]

The VA's barely speak with the mangaka and as far as I know they only meet in SJ events.
and tbh It's hard for me to believe that Kishi would talk so openly about the future of his manga with others people that way ( as @narusaku4ver said , usually even the editors know the future of the manga) but if you said that your source is reliable... I really don't know what to think anymore.

I know that the VA's facebook account is legit. I don't know if the information, that's coming from another fan, is. I'm more inclined to believe it because I've spoken with the VA myself, and as Sakura's voice actress it's more believable coming from her, but I don't know if it's true or not. I wasn't there to hear the conversation. This is just what I've been told by another fan. Take it as you will.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Guys, this would have been an option he was considering before her confession arc. As in, over three years ago. Maybe he had something completely different planned out then, but has changed his mind about it. This has nothing to do with Road to Ninja, which was started only a year ago. It has nothing to do with what's going on in the series now. It's something that he may have been considering a few years ago, but changed his mind.

Maybe he was going to have all of Team Seven die so that they could be happy together in the next life, like Naruto says during his confrontation with Sasuke? Who knows. Fact is, he didn't choose to take that route, so stop fretting. I just mentioned it to spark some conversation about the confession. I didn't mean to cause a sh*tstorm and get attacked for leaving the comment. *cough*narusaku4ever*cough*

Atheck, that's a great idea. I've asked for a screenshot.

Well, I would wait for screenshot. What you said make a good point, but honestly, I'm glad he changed his mind if it's even true. I'm not saying as a fan of NS and Sakura. When you really think about it, if that was the old intention, what message should I even learn? Even Death Note has a message. We are dealing with a Shounen manga, not anything else that suggest dead or anything, unless he wants to top Evagelion for the most wtf moment of all time.

Anyway, I'm not blaming you. Even if it's true, I would still rather get Kishi himself. Why the hell Naruto got to be complicated for people to understand. People made it sound like we're dealing mass effect or a long running sci-fi series. It's just a Shounen. You read it and like it. That's it. It doesn't have to be so damn complex. Predictable sure, but deal with it.

[sushi.]

If Sakura was originally going to die, he could at least have made her die as a heroine. If she would've died after the confession, she did not help Naruto right before her death, she failed at what she intended to do. The best he could do is to make her a martyr, (lol it even reminds me of what Amon told Korra in Avatar:LoK.) That is why I don't believe this VA 100%, I will not struggle on it, I'll just brush it off, because we'll never get a real answer anyway.

[Tsubaki]

I know that the VA's facebook account is legit. I don't know if the information, that's coming from another fan, is. I'm more inclined to believe it because I've spoken with the VA myself, and as Sakura's voice actress it's more believable coming from her, but I don't know if it's true or not. I wasn't there to hear the conversation. This is just what I've been told by another fan. Take it as you will.

I hope you haven't gotten the impression that I am blaming you for something, I know that you just brought the information you got to be discussed here.

... It's just .. hard to believe that Kishi would consider kill her off .. or more like painful to believe.

Edited by Tsubaki, 11 February 2013 - 11:23 PM.

[Slextrem]

If Sakura was originally going to die, he could at least have made her die as a heroine. If she would've died after the confession, she did not help Naruto right before her death, she failed at what she intended to do. The best he could do is to make her a martyr, (lol it even reminds me of what Amon told Korra in Avatar:LoK.) That is why I don't believe this VA 100%, I will not struggle on it, I'll just brush it off, because we'll never get a real answer anyway.

Good point.
The only reason why I brought it up in the first place was to spark some discussion about Kishimoto's intention regard her confession. I wasn't trying to get everyone all riled up about his plans for the manga.

I hope you have not gotten the impression that I am blaming you for something, I know that you just brought the information you got to be discussed here.

... It's just .. hard to believe that Kishi would consider kill her off .. or more like painful to believe.

No, no. You didn't give me that impression at all - don't worry! Someone else did, but I won't get into that.

I understand what you mean. I felt the same way. Sakura's my favorite character - it breaks my heart to think that, if this information is legit, Kishimoto might have killed her off.

Edited by Slextrem, 11 February 2013 - 11:25 PM.

[Arachnia]

Well, I would wait for screenshot. What you said make a good point, but honestly, I'm glad he changed his mind if it's even true. I'm not saying as a fan of NS and Sakura. When you really think about it, if that was the old intention, what message should I even learn? Even Death Note has a message. We are dealing with a Shounen manga, not anything else that suggest dead or anything, unless he wants to top Evagelion for the most wtf moment of all time.

Anyway, I'm not blaming you. Even if it's true, I would still rather get Kishi himself. Why the hell Naruto got to be complicated for people to understand. People made it sound like we're dealing mass effect or a long running sci-fi series. It's just a Shounen. You read it and like it. That's it. It doesn't have to be so damn complex. Predictable sure, but deal with it.

OMG death note pure awsomeness but i hated the near guy and evangelion lets just say i am happy it gets a remake in movies the wtf factor of the series was too much

[kirabook]

I don't know, I'm under the impression that the VA's only know what's going on with the anime. After all, the anime is handled by a separate entity, they base their content on Kishi's work that is released. Why would he reveal that information to a VA? I don't know, if she's willing to spill something like that, she seems too loose lipped.

If this were the truth, then it's not too bad I guess. Kishi said he knows how the manga will end pretty much, but not how he'll get there. He has a skeleton I assume, but doesn't have the juciy bits in-between. I assume NS was actually not set in stone until part 2 (or a little before) began. Sadly, this indicates that he hasn't been planning for Sakura very well at all if he intended her to die in some of his juicy bits (not the skeleton), but changed his mind later.

With that, I think I'm going to give up any special hopes that he'll do right with her in terms of her abilities.

But anyway, any pairings/romance was no doubt originally part of the juicy bits, but now he's been working the romance more and more into the skeleton. I think NS is pretty skeleton now a days, but a few years back, it was definitely juicy bits.