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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Unlike a lot of people I've seen I don't think all the recent character focus on Hinata is a result of editorial meddling or fan pressure, I don't mean any disrespect I just don't share that viewpoint.

From this chapter we have what is undoubtedly the biggest NH push in the manga, but we also have a random focus on Sakura in the middle that feels very reminiscent (to me) of Hinata looking over Naruto and Sakura at the end of the Pain arc, this all feels very deliberate to instill doubt. We are at the what Kishi has called the climax but I doubt the war will continue for another 2 years meaning there it will most likely be more of an action climax and there will be another arc after this most likely the resolution of the Team 7 dynamic.

I believe Kishi is starting to up the tension on the pairings, by letting Hinata be as close to Naruto as she has ever been, by having romantic moments between the 2 of them, by casting doubt on Naruto's feelings for Sakura, on his feelings for Hinata. Naruto has always been an action-adventure manga, romance was always present but was always a minor factor, to be honest Kishi isn't all that great at writing romance but for what has been such a small element prior has now been strengthened by Obito, arguably the main villain of the series primary motivation being one born out of love lost. Romance is now quite a big factor of the story and with competing romance comes tension.

As much as it makes no sense to suddenly develop feelings of someone he's never really interacted with as well as doubt what has been the earliest and most consistent element of this character he next arc will probably have Naruto analyse both his relationships with Sakura and Hinata, effectively creating 2 love triangles in the series Naruto > Sakura > Sasuke and Hinata > Naruto >Sakura, its the perfect way to create doubt and tension in the series, since the action climax has already happened it will create an emotional climax, its the equivalent of the romance movie cliche where at the beginning to halfway through someone screws up throwing the entire relationship into doubt only for them to realize why they love the other and get back together towards the end.

edit: woo 50 pages

THis is the reason why i think there will be a big NS moment soon, and after we will have a SS.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 29 December 2012 - 10:10 AM.

[KnS]

Yeah, I know, sharing chakra and all that. Sure. (1) But what if it's more than that?? (2) we don't even know for sure. (3) For all we know, Naruto could really be thinking he wants her to hold his hand because if he loses his heart will break and all that. (4) I'm just throwing out possibilities here, folks. So I'm keeping my expectations really, really low.

(1) What if it's not? Why assume it's something that hasn't been proven, rather than assume it's unlikely to be something that completely changes the previous 600+ chapters? There's always time to accept what it is -- even if it's NH -- once "what it is" has actually been revealed.

(2) You're right. We don't know for sure. We know we don't know. What's the value in hammering on a point that nearly everyone already accepts?

(3) And what we actually DO know is that there's absolutely no evidence of what you're suggesting. And we DO know that for Naruto to have a sudden, wild swing in his affections would be totally out of character and contrary to what's been established.

(4) If you need to be negative in order to cope that's your free choice, but I wonder at the continual forced "reality" checks. See item #2. Some people aren't so negative about the events. That should be okay too.

[Codus N]

@KnS:
I'm not trying to be negative here. I've said it once before, and I'll say it again: it's better to accept some things/possibilities beforehand so that you don't end up with a massive disappointment.

I don't mean to be obnoxious, but just as your points are valid, so is mine. Bottom line is, anything's possible from here on out.

I don't mind others being positive, but the skeptic me sees it as being desperate.

[Nefertieh]

And here we go back to ch 573 where Sakura states that she is going to be by Naruto's side along with everybody else. Sakura has never stated her desire to be there next to Naruto, as someone special, holding his hand. She wants to help him and support him, as a good friend does. She won't mind in the slightest if someone else is there as well. So Hinata also helping and supporting Naruto in no way bothers her. Naruto is not something she sees belonging only to herself. That's what I meant to say. Sorry if it was unclear.

Right, I have already addressed that quote. But I think you're ignoring the fact that she does show some reaction to Hinata when she is with Naruto (when she was healing Hinata, in this chapter). I understand that she doesn't fangirl possessively over Naruto (as I addressed in my quote, she isn't a satellite), but she has stated various times that she will be at his side.

As for Sakura's role, well I'll understand the complaints if the manga ends and Sakura never got more than this. Right now the manga is still going on. For all we know Sakura will have prominent role shortly after this. Or she may not. Complaining that Hinata has stolen her place is silly, for the reasons I already wrote. I still don't understand this "there can be only one heroine" attitude.

You have to bear in mind that a lot of people were expecting Sakura to play a role in this arc, especially after Kishimoto said in two interviews that he would. The first one was when he said he would focus on Sakura after Kakashi, and the other was when he promised she would be more "heroine-like" after the bad reception he got after her confession.

Considering Hinata has had a large role in the last arc and again a huge role in this arc, it could very well mean she's a permanent main character with more screentime to come. And unfortunately, most shonen manga don't have two main heros, let alone heroines.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Right, I have already addressed that quote. But I think you're ignoring the fact that she does show some reaction to Hinata when she is with Naruto (when she was healing Hinata, in this chapter). I understand that she doesn't fangirl possessively over Naruto (as I addressed in my quote, she isn't a satellite), but she has stated various times that she will be at his side.



You have to bear in mind that a lot of people were expecting Sakura to play a role in this arc, especially after Kishimoto said in two interviews that he would. The first one was when he said he would focus on Sakura after Kakashi, and the other was when he promised she would be more "heroine-like" after the bad reception he got after her confession.

Considering Hinata has had a large role in the last arc and again a huge role in this arc, it could very well mean she's a permanent main character with more screentime to come. And unfortunately, most shonen manga don't have two main heros, let alone heroines.

Nope, she could be if she was on team 7 but nope, her development ended.
Like Kakashi.

Like i said before NH is forced, SS is forced, and SS there are three girls.
I dont think naruto's manga will end with those two pairings, it's bad writing, plus the fact that hyuuga + uzumaki, me the urge to vomit.
I still wait for the rest of this arc, to make a conclusion.

NS is not forced, and it's good writing; I have my doubts that he will defecate on top of the script

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 29 December 2012 - 10:43 AM.

[KnS]

I'm not trying to be negative here. I've said it once before, and I'll say it again: it's better to accept some things/possibilities beforehand so that you don't end up with a massive disappointment.

Better for you, maybe. But speaking only for myself, I am perfectly capable of managing my own expectations. No matter what happens, trust me, I can accept it.

And again, you're implying that any positivity equals not accepting what the possibilities are and that's not true. I don't believe that accepting uncertainty is the same as forcing yourself to embrace potentially erroneous conclusions out of fear, especially when there is so much story left.

I don't mean to be obnoxious, but just as your points are valid, so is mine. Bottom line is, anything's possible from here on out.

Anything has always been possible. So nothing new there.

I don't mind others being positive, but the skeptic me sees it as being desperate.

All I can say is, I think that's a shame. Truly. But you have to do what you have to do.

I dont think naruto's manga will end with those two pairings, it's bad writing, plus the fact that hyuuga + uzumaki, me the urge to vomit.
I still wait for the rest of this arc, to make a conclusion.

LOL @ bolded. Otherwise, yes, waiting to see what happens.

[Nefertieh]

Nope, she could be if she was on team 7 but nope, her development ended.
Like Kakashi.

Like i said before NH is forced, SS is forced, and SS there are three girls.
I dont think naruto's manga will end with those two pairings, it's bad writing, plus the fact that hyuuga + uzumaki, me the urge to vomit.
I still wait for the rest of this arc, to make a conclusion.

NS is not forced, and it's good writing; I have my doubts that he will defecate on top of the script

I'm not saying she is a permanent character, I'm saying there are people here who think that she has so far been more prominant than the actual heroine, and it is a possibility of more to come. Don't count yor eggs before they hatch.

In this chapter, Hinata told Naruto that everyone is fighting to him. And ironically, that was what Sakura was thinking about.

[ramenanmitsu]

@KnS:
I'm not trying to be negative here. I've said it once before, and I'll say it again: it's better to accept some things/possibilities beforehand so that you don't end up with a massive disappointment.

I don't mean to be obnoxious, but just as your points are valid, so is mine. Bottom line is, anything's possible from here on out.

I don't mind others being positive, but the skeptic me sees it as being desperate.

Not trying to be rude here.

But I don't get why you're repeating again and again, "try to accept if the negative comes" when the people on this thread already does.
When people list their hopes and reasons, you repeat this again and again, and it looks like you're trying to crush down when people have hopes for NS. Being rational, and looking at things in a neutral point of view is a good thing, but neutral=/=negative, logical=/=negative. Yours just sound negative, instead of being neutral and logical. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if you will say, "We can't say they are canon yet. Kishi might troll us again", when Naruto and Sakura kisses each other.

People are stating their reasons to why they believe NH is not romantic in a rational way, and your answer to that is "we cannot be so sure."
If you want people to be negative about NS then state the reasons how there can be no more romantic development logically. Trying to crush people's reasons with a "you cannot be so sure" goes nowhere and it only goes to show that you don't have anything to back-up your claim.

Of course I'm just talking about the impression I get from reading your posts. But the constant "we cannot be sure yet" replies to rational backed-up theories people are giving out sounds rude.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 29 December 2012 - 11:03 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

Excellent lecture, professor James!!

That was very informative, thank you!!

Thanks.

I'll also add more:

I agree that the editor should be more worried about the quality of the series in the long run. But the problem is, some might not even hold the same kind of thinking. There might be some particularly stupid (or even inexperienced) editors that only care about getting the top spot this week. As it is now, I'm not just concerned about Kishi's writing. I'm also concerned about the quality of his editor. And it's the bolded I'm concerned about. He doesn't have to particularly be like that, just being all "hmm... Hinata gives higher ratings to the manga, let's give more spotlight to her."

There is no way to know that unfortunately until you see a pattern. When you see quality go down because blatant ripping of character just to gain profits, then you start to wonder how can such a story be printed without being proof read. Sure an editor may make a mistake or two, but I think an editor needs to be like a lawyer. They shouldn't (and I emphasize this) let their personal feelings interfere with their job. If you do, then they cause problems not only for the job , but the product itself and the fanbase that follows it.

Here is the kicker, are the editor's aware of the shipping wars? I'd say so. Should they let this interfere with their job? No, cause that's not what they are supposed to be doing. They just are meant to maintain quality control.

I don't know what kind of job a Manga editor does, but I do know what a Comic book editors does. I'll put a review at the bottom of a brief summary. Since comic books are close to Manga, I would think that their jobs are rather similar. Here was written in a brochure I got once for a job offer.

Comic book editors. --Click here to view--

Comic Book Editors meet with the Writer at the beginning of production to discuss the story concept. If you’re a Comic Book Editor working with existing characters with a long history, you discuss the things that character can and cannot do. Allowing your Writers to take liberties, such as giving an old character new powers, will get you in trouble with diehard fans, so you work hard to maintain continuity. After this meeting, you set a schedule for production.

Once the Writer turns in a script, you meet with the Illustrator and discuss how the comic book should look and feel. You may provide examples of previous issues, or you may ask to see sketches from the Illustrator as work progresses.

Once the illustrations are complete, you send the document to the Colorist for a pop of red and blue, and then you ask the Letterer to put dialogue from the script into the dialogue balloons.

After each step is complete, you perform a quick quality check to make sure the story makes sense, looks good, reads well, and has no grammatical errors. Any mistake you find must be corrected, but Artists can be touchy about disapproval. Sandwiching your criticism between nuggets of praise helps soften the blow.

Each step must be completed on time so production can move forward and the comic book can head to the print house and the website. One of your duties as a Comic Book Editor is to remind your team members of the deadlines on a regular basis so they can stay on schedule.

The bolded parts are most interesting my opinion as they seem to point at just maintaining the universe, not writing it. So if the writer has a plan and that plan is to do this, the editor's job is to maintain quality control. He can alter the course to make it flow better, but I don't think he is allowed to break the course without permission from the writer.

A sensible idea would be that if the editor is forcing things to happen in the story, then he is breaking his role as the editor and he should be fired. Would explain why Kishi has fired previous editors over the years. Maybe they wanted the bias and they let it affect their work. We don't know. More or less, if a big uproar is made by the fans about the quality, it is up to the editor to see that and adjust the story to accommodate that. Complaining about not getting your pairing choice is not what they look for though.

I very much agree that it is all about a balancing act. It's what good editors/authors pay attention to. Now, I'm wondering whether Kishi's editor is a particularly bad one (seriously, you don't hand one of your best-selling authors your worst editors if you want more profits and better story quality).

True. I'd say we have to see what the upcoming chapters would be before we decide whether or not the editor is doing his job right. One chapter won't do it and it takes a while for the reactions of the fans gets to the editors.

On the note of spin-offs, I'd actually like one with Bee. He's interesting and wacky enough. Plus, he's obviously awesomely powerful.

[Weltall]

God this thread goes way too fast for my little brain

Okay, after watching Slextrem's excellent video I decided to reread #615. Since then I've been thinking about the hand-holding part.

There's all this energy around Naruto supposedly holding Hinata's hand in a romantic way, right? Never mind that Naruto has never shown any romantic interest in Hinata before. Never mind that Naruto is not likely to be in romance mode in the middle of the war. Never mind the whole holding-hands-because-he's-about-to-transfer-chakra thing. Romance is still the way some readers are interpreting it, and others are afraid of interpreting it, right?

But consider what Hinata actually thinks:

"Naruto's hand is... so big... so manly... but most importantly... it makes me feel safe!!!"

It's as if she wasn't interpreting it as romance herself -- not from his side, I mean. Her private thoughts (above) aren't actually about their relationship. It's not as if she thought, "OMG!! Naruto is SO HOLDING MY HAND. Does this mean he could LOVE ME???"

No. There's no hope included in her thoughts, no assumptions. She simply reacts to her private dream of holding his hand, not to the possibility that it means anything. Hinata's fans might be willing to assume Naruto loves her, but I don't think Hinata assumes he does.

Looking at it from that angle makes it seem even more development-coming-full-circle for Hinata, rather than advancing the relationship from Naruto's side in any way.

Hmm.... Just a late night thought.

I really think people don't understand Hinata's character, what she wants is Naruto's well being above all, for the first time she stands next to him and was able to inspire him she did what Naruto did for her all these years I don't believe she's looking for a relationship of course she would like it but first and foremost what she wants is to be able to stand next to him as an equal and be there for him like he was there for her and she pretty much did it in this chapter, she said she would stop chasing him after the war but she may be aware of his feelings and she's not going to force him she's a bit like Naruto for that matter execpt Naruto suffers that Sakura loves Sasuke, Hinata doesn't that's what her smile and "..." in chapter 450 conveyed to me. People here thinks Hinata is selfish and wants to force Naruto in a relationship with her I do believe it's the contrary and we will see that soon enough. To be honest if I wasn't sure NS is the canon pairing I wouldn't mind NaruHina, as long as Kishi resolves Naruto's feelings for Sakura and yes I do believe her development has come full circle and it was nicely done.

[Gravenimage]

After doing some serious thinking I've come to realize of the possibility of what Kishi might have in mind. I said that he wants to force Sakura's hand, I still think I'm right. He's planning to make Sakura to see her true feelings for Naruto and erase all feelings for Sasuke for good. And he's doing that using Hinata as a plot device (again) to make her see the truth. I'm sure once she sees Hinata and Naruto holding hands she will feel hurt like she did at 442 and will make her reflect and see the truth, I think that's the only use Kishimoto has for Hinata as a key to make NS canon since she has always been pairing fodder. In 437 he used Hinata as a catalyst to make Naruto go nine tails because it was necessary in the arc for him to do so. The irony that Hinata will be the one to make NS canon, that's how I see it and probably how Kishi sees it too. Because come on people think, we're almost at the end of the story why would Kishi start developing NH NOW??? Why would he make a 180 just when he's reaching the finish line??? If he wanted NH all along he would've done so since the beginning at part 1, I trust he's not going to make all the NS development being a complete waste of his time doing panel after panel just so he can change his mind and force this pairing that doesn't make sense at his readers. Especially when he showed it to us clearly since chapter 3 that Naruto likes Sakura the stubborn and never give up Naruto some one who hasn't given up in saving Sasuke, now what are the chances that he's going to move on from Sakura and fall for Hinata NOW???

Edited by Gravenimage, 29 December 2012 - 11:45 AM.

[Nefertieh]

Not trying to be rude here.

But I don't get why you're repeating again and again, "try to accept if the negative comes" when the people on this thread already does.
When people list their hopes and reasons, you repeat this again and again, and it looks like you're trying to crush down when people have hopes for NS. Being rational, and looking at things in a neutral point of view is a good thing, but neutral=/=negative, logical=/=negative. Yours just sound negative, instead of being neutral and logical. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if you will say, "We can't say they are canon yet. Kishi might troll us again", when Naruto and Sakura kisses each other.

People are stating their reasons to why they believe NH is not romantic in a rational way, and your answer to that is "we cannot be so sure."
If you want people to be negative about NS then state the reasons how there can be no more romantic development logically. Trying to crush people's reasons with a "you cannot be so sure" goes nowhere and it only goes to show that you don't have anything to back-up your claim.

Of course I'm just talking about the impression I get from reading your posts. But the constant "we cannot be sure yet" replies to rational backed-up theories people are giving out sounds rude.

I've read this entire thread, and to be honest, I think some people are trying to downplay this entire chapter, instead of trying to be cautiously optimistic. Codus is just telling everyone not to assume anything; it's not a negative comment.

[Awes9]

I've read this entire thread, and to be honest, I think some people are trying to downplay this entire chapter, instead of trying to be cautiously optimistic. Codus is just telling everyone not to assume anything; it's not a negative comment.

I think everyone aknowledges the possibility of NH being canon or at least the majority, but they are still facts that makes it unlikely and far from being set in stone so it works both ways. Also I have to say, no offense to anyone, I really dislike when people talks about popularity instead of the actual manga to justify an event in the manga I really would prefer if the discussion is about the manga not about polls.

[KnS]

God this thread goes way too fast for my little brain

Join the club.

I really think people don't understand Hinata's character, what she wants is Naruto's well being above all, for the first time she stands next to him and was able to inspire him she did what Naruto did for her all these years I don't believe she's looking for a relationship of course she would like it but first and foremost what she wants is to be able to stand next to him as an equal and be there for him like he was there for her and she pretty much did it in this chapter, she said she would stop chasing him after the war but she may be aware of his feelings and she's not going to force him she's a bit like Naruto for that matter execpt Naruto suffers that Sakura loves Sasuke, Hinata doesn't that's what her smile and "..." in chapter 450 conveyed to me. People here thinks Hinata is selfish and wants to force Naruto in a relationship with her I do believe it's the contrary and we will see that soon enough. To be honest if I wasn't sure NS is the canon pairing I wouldn't mind NaruHina, as long as Kishi resolves Naruto's feelings for Sakura and yes I do believe her development has come full circle and it was nicely done.

Well, I fully admit that I cannot relate to Hinata at all. At all. And I'm guilty of thinking Hinata a selfish girl, mostly because it was the word she used to describe herself and her motives during the Pain arc. That's why it took me the third readthrough of #615 to stop and really think about her reaction to holding Naruto's hand.

I'm glad of her development, though, because despite not caring much for her character I wanted to see her grow for her own sake.

[Namaenash]

Not trying to be rude here.

Of course I'm just talking about the impression I get from reading your posts. But the constant "we cannot be sure yet" replies to rational backed-up theories people are giving out sounds rude.

Doesn't sound rude at all, and I agree that people are entitled to their own opinion. We need people who can always give positive, factual and reasonable 'comfort' in this kind of situation. These people are the ones who keep the fandom 'alive'.

[Canadian_DJ]

All you need to do is remind yourselves that

Sasusaku: over 9000 murder attempts.

Naruhina: over 9000 hours spent stalking

Narusaku: over 9000 hours spent being there for one another.

Boss post right here!! awsome pal.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

Right, I have already addressed that quote. But I think you're ignoring the fact that she does show some reaction to Hinata when she is with Naruto (when she was healing Hinata, in this chapter). I understand that she doesn't fangirl possessively over Naruto (as I addressed in my quote, she isn't a satellite), but she has stated various times that she will be at his side.



You have to bear in mind that a lot of people were expecting Sakura to play a role in this arc, especially after Kishimoto said in two interviews that he would. The first one was when he said he would focus on Sakura after Kakashi, and the other was when he promised she would be more "heroine-like" after the bad reception he got after her confession.

Considering Hinata has had a large role in the last arc and again a huge role in this arc, it could very well mean she's a permanent main character with more screentime to come. And unfortunately, most shonen manga don't have two main heros, let alone heroines.

Frankly you may have assumed too much. You can't really blame anyone for expecting too much and then being disappointed. Kishi has managed to have two main characters so far. I think he just might manage giving both Hinata and Sakura resolutions.

Look, maybe I'm misunderstanding you? But I don't really get your point about Sakura reacting to Hinata. I already gave alternative reason for her to look upset instead because she is jealous. Sakura cares for Naruto, of course she will want to be there helping and supporting him. Sakura just doesn't seem to want to hold his hand and waltz down the aisle with him. If Hinata ends up marrying Naruto, Sakura will not be crying bitter tears and think that Hinata stole her place as Naruto's wife. Disagree?

[sushi.]

After doing some serious thinking I've come to realize of the possibility of what Kishi might have in mind. I said that he wants to force Sakura's hand, I still think I'm right. He's planning to make Sakura to see her true feelings for Naruto and erase all feelings for Sasuke for good. And he's doing that using Hinata as a plot device (again) to make her see the truth. I'm sure once she sees Hinata and Naruto holding hands she will feel hurt like she did at 442 and will make her reflect and see the truth, I think that's the only use Kishimoto has for Hinata as a key to make NS canon since she has always been pairing fodder. In 437 he used Hinata as a catalyst to make Naruto go nine tails because it was necessary in the arc for him to do so. The irony that Hinata will be the one to make NS canon, that's how I see it and probably how Kishi sees it too. Because come on people think, we're almost at the end of the story why would Kishi start developing NH NOW??? Why would he make a 180 just when he's reaching the finish line??? If he wanted NH all along he would've done so since the beginning at part 1, I trust he's not going to make all the NS development being a complete waste of his time doing panel after panel just so he can change his mind and force this pairing that doesn't make sense at his readers. Especially when he showed it to us clearly since chapter 3 that Naruto likes Sakura the stubborn and never give up Naruto some one who hasn't given up in saving Sasuke, now what are the chances that he's going to move on from Sakura and fall for Hinata NOW???

Word..just Word, dude

Besides, to me, NS was confirmed already in databook 3. If what you said is true, I can't wait to see all the YT-reviewers reactions(as 80% like NH) XD
Hope that was legal to say. If not, you mods can edit it. I don't mean to bash the NH fans, but he who laughs last laughs best. :3

[4000TMNT]

Wow, nobody respond to my last post, I fell ignored.

[Namaenash]

Frankly you may have assumed too much. You can't really blame anyone for expecting too much and then being disappointed. Kishi has managed to have two main characters so far. I think he just might manage giving both Hinata and Sakura resolutions.

Look, maybe I'm misunderstanding you? But I don't really get your point about Sakura reacting to Hinata. I already gave alternative reason for her to look upset instead because she is jealous. Sakura cares for Naruto, of course she will want to be there helping and supporting him. Sakura just doesn't seem to want to hold his hand and waltz down the aisle with him. If Hinata ends up marrying Naruto, Sakura will not be crying bitter tears and think that Hinata stole her place as Naruto's wife. Disagree?

As of this point, we don't know yet, since the panel is very ambiguous, but it may or may not be a clue to Sakura's reaction. We'll have to wait and see how she react in the future chapters (if such chance exist --cross fingers).
It's difficult to explain, but I think fellow Japanese or those who have lived in Japan in this forum knows that most of the time, romance in shounen is subtle and indirect. In Naruto series, the majority of the couples are depicted that way. Minato/Kushina which is the most prominent pairing in the series, they don't have a panel of them saying 'I love you' to each other. It was depicted indirectly. Same goes with Asuma/Kurenai, Shikaku/Yoshino, Fugaku/Mikoto, Yahiko/Konan, etc.

You can argue the same idea can be applied to Naruto/Hinata, but at this point of time, it may be too early to conclude. If we see Sakura's reaction in the coming chapters, it's quite safe to say that Kishi has ulterior motive (either to keep NS fans interested in the manga, or what happen in this chapter will trigger something bigger). We don't know yet, but that's the fun part. We (fandom) are situated to keep guessing and hoping.

In summary, that single panel of Sakura showing...something in the midst of Hinata's encouragement to Naruto, maybe significant. Again, we'll have to see. Most importantly, her reaction is different than Hinata's when she watched Sakura hugged Naruto

Edited by Namaenash, 29 December 2012 - 01:07 PM.