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#81 James S Cassidy

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 09:55 PM

QUOTE (kabu-chan @ Dec 3 2009, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i can imagine a sakura vs sasuke battle where sakura is failing miserably but then naruto arrives all of a sudden (surprise, surprise) and then says "remember when you promised that we'd save sasuke together? well, you're keeping that promise." and then they kill (in other words "save") sasuke together.
and they live happily ever after. :3


This still reminds me of the song Hero by Skiller

I'm just a step away
I'm just a breath away
Losing my faith today
Girl: We're falling off the edge today


This reminds me of the what is happening now in Chapter 474. Sakura is saying "We're (as in her and Naruto) falling off the edge."

I am just a man
Not superhuman
Girl: I'm not superhuman
Someone save me from the hate


Again Naruto digresses that he isn;t perfect and that he is trying the best he can, and of course, Sakura also agrees that everyone is human, but sometimes things need to be done to save someone from something.

It's just another war
Just another family torn
Girl: Falling from my faith today
Just a step from the edge
Just another day in the world we live


This reminds me of what the everyone keeps telling Sakura and Naruto. "It's war, this stuff happens" despite them not accepting it and losing faith in the fellow clans


I need a hero to save me now
I need a hero,
girl: Save me now
I need a hero to save my life
A hero will save me just in time


This I can see happening when the fight between Sasuke and Naru-Saku. Just Sakura being the hero to Naruto and Naruto being the Hero to everyone including Sakura and Sasuke.

That's it, I am definitely doing this video whether people like NaruSaku or not. I am going to make it for the pairing because it remidns me so much of it.

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 10:07 PM

Lol, your on a NaruSaku loving website, I think people will like it. Just watch out, outside of this site people are not usually as nice as NaruSaku.

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 10:09 PM

Boy do I know it. Feels like I am going to get mugged on the internet.

I care not though. They can spam all they want, but I just want to make something awesome for once in my life.
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Posted 03 December 2009 - 10:12 PM

wont say i told ya so.

but well...

oh and some silly author wrote this in one of his stories, cant remember his name though.

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Who was he to dismiss her feelings so easily? So she had gone to confront Sasuke. Her intentions being to protect Naruto by putting him down permanently in spite of the pain it would cause her, and with the certainty in her broken heart that Naruto would hate her and then turn to Hinata.

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 10:43 PM

After thinking about the chapter some more I realized that I feel really bad for Sai. I know a lot of people are being harsh with him over the guilt tripping, but one thing that I noticed in this chapter was how badly he wants to be thought of as part of team 7. I don't know if kishi meant anything like this, but I feel really bad for him. He tried to help Naruto with his burdens and he was turned away, so he decided to do things on his own and caused problems with Sakura. He tried to take burdens from Sakura then, but she also just turned him away with a fake smile. Also, Naruto's image of the perfect team 7 doesn't include Sai.

Sai is right there though, wanting to be part of their struggles and yet he is largely going unrecognized.

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 10:52 PM

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Sasuke is just another tragic hero. Kinda like Two-Face from Batman.

Once a hero, saw the ones he loved die, and decides to turn evil.

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 10:58 PM

funny thing is he doesnt even realize he is choosing evil. to him it justice and righteousness. Hes right and no one can convince him otherwise.

the theme though that may come into play in a surprise may come from Karin where she pushes him to as Gaara said it seek the light.
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Posted 03 December 2009 - 11:04 PM

I'm rather happy with this chapter.

The shattering image of Team Seven was truly heartbreaking... I think Naruto has finally grasped that things really can't go back to the way they once were...

Gaara I wub.gif you... you and your inspiring speech of inspiration boogie.gif

Urgh, Sasuke was so unattractive in the flashbacks... looked like he had something shoved up his @$$ down.gif

Danzou's gonna go mecha on Madara eager.gif This'll be fail!
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Posted 03 December 2009 - 11:13 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Dec 3 2009, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wont say i told ya so.

but well...

oh and some silly author wrote this in one of his stories, cant remember his name though.

In your heart chapter 4 --Click here to view--
Who was he to dismiss her feelings so easily? So she had gone to confront Sasuke. Her intentions being to protect Naruto by putting him down permanently in spite of the pain it would cause her, and with the certainty in her broken heart that Naruto would hate her and then turn to Hinata.


It would be most unfortunate if Kishimoto did that so Naruto's not alone and we as readers don't fell bad. I think NaruHina is bad enough on its own, but it would be a travesty if it occur mostly as a consequence of SasuSaku rather than on its own merits.

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 11:15 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Dec 3 2009, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
funny thing is he doesnt even realize he is choosing evil. to him it justice and righteousness. Hes right and no one can convince him otherwise.

the theme though that may come into play in a surprise may come from Karin where she pushes him to as Gaara said it seek the light.


Actually, Sasuke knows what he is doing. He is choosing evil, essentially. He chooses to stay in the darkness, that is choosing to be evil. It makes it even more horrible knowing that he willingly decides to do these things. He said himself he didn't care what happened to anyone else, or the world, as long as he grew closer to his revenge. Gaara saw that Sasuke knew perfectly well what he was doing; where Gaara pretty much didn't know any better, Sasuke does. That's why Gaara saw that it was hopeless with him.

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 11:33 PM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Dec 3 2009, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would be most unfortunate if Kishimoto did that so Naruto's not alone and we as readers don't fell bad. I think NaruHina is bad enough on its own, but it would be a travesty if it occur mostly as a consequence of SasuSaku rather than on its own merits.


If he actualy chose hinata yes i agree.

but i dont think he will.

as ive said Its her perception. its what she believes will happen. She is willing to make the sacrafice of any chance of Naruto loving her, so she can save him.

whether she trully believes that Naruto will choose hinata over her because of this action is an uncertainty. She knows of Hinatas confession and sacrafice. and may see it as a logical outcome of her killing Sasuke one of narutos closest bonds.

as Sai said she also knows you might hate her. thus it makes logical sense where she might feel something like that would happen.

Its more likely though that Naruto and Sakura will have a little conversation afterwards.
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Posted 04 December 2009 - 12:18 AM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Dec 3 2009, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Sasuke is just another tragic hero. Kinda like Two-Face from Batman.

Once a hero, saw the ones he loved die, and decides to turn evil.

I love how the topic of Batman has become an inseperable part of this thread. My job, she is done. The Bat, he is pleased.

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It would be most unfortunate if Kishimoto did that so Naruto's not alone and we as readers don't fell bad. I think NaruHina is bad enough on its own, but it would be a travesty if it occur mostly as a consequence of SasuSaku rather than on its own merits.

If that kind of thing actually happened, I'd honestly lose every last bit of respect I have for the manga. I'll be frank; I'm only in it for the bond between Naruto and Sakura now. The general direction of the series otherwise took a dive off a cliff a while back to the point where I can't even claim it's very good anymore. Such an illogical move would just... well, it would be indefensible.

I suspect there'd sooner be no pairing resolution than such an outcome, however.

Edited by dl316bh, 04 December 2009 - 12:18 AM.

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Posted 04 December 2009 - 12:48 AM

ı agree dl316bh.
İn order to survive,we cling to all we know and understand and we label it reality but knowledge and understanding are ambiguous that reality could be an illusion, all humans live with the wrong assumptions isnt that another way of looking at it.

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Posted 04 December 2009 - 01:11 AM

I also agree dl316bh.

I just....I just don't like NaruHina. It doesn't feel right. It's too...I don't know. There is nothing there to make it.

I really hope NaruSaku is the final product of this because like dl316bh it's the only reason why I m still attracted to this manga anymore to be honest.
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Posted 04 December 2009 - 01:44 AM

QUOTE (dl316bh @ Dec 3 2009, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love how the topic of Batman has become an inseperable part of this thread. My job, she is done. The Bat, he is pleased.

Bat be praised.


It's why I love this chapter regardless of the content. This thread featured Bender, SNL, and Batman. How could I not love the thread it spawned?

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If that kind of thing actually happened, I'd honestly lose every last bit of respect I have for the manga. I'll be frank; I'm only in it for the bond between Naruto and Sakura now. The general direction of the series otherwise took a dive off a cliff a while back to the point where I can't even claim it's very good anymore. Such an illogical move would just... well, it would be indefensible.

I suspect there'd sooner be no pairing resolution than such an outcome, however.


Don't misunderstand, I don't genuinely believe it will occur. I was merely responding to catsi's post. I'm just a bit amazed that someone would want it to occur like that. Well, no, actually, I'm not. It's pairings. Our pairing or bust, I suppose. No matter how we get there.

As far as the manga goes, you've seen many of my posts, so I think we're pretty much on the same page on the overall direction and quality.

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Posted 04 December 2009 - 03:23 AM

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Don't misunderstand, I don't genuinely believe it will occur. I was merely responding to catsi's post. I'm just a bit amazed that someone would want it to occur like that. Well, no, actually, I'm not. It's pairings. Our pairing or bust, I suppose. No matter how we get there.

As far as the manga goes, you've seen many of my posts, so I think we're pretty much on the same page on the overall direction and quality.

Yeah, we pretty much are on the same page in regards to the manga.

The "our pairing or bust" thing is frighteningly accurate for a lot of the nowhere-near-canon pairings. I've run across folks who do not care if it makes no damn sense in context of the story as long as their pairing hooked up. Which is really the reality of ninety percent of Naruto pairings, but few wish to admit it; I've always thought that NaruSaku being the closest real pairing the manga has is what's painted a target on it the worst of all.
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Posted 04 December 2009 - 04:18 AM

I'm not really worried. Things have to get messy before they're resolved. Kishi has said before that the series is 'far from over', and continuing to develop narusaku without throwing some serious uncertainty into their relationship would be a tad boring. I suspect he's trying to complicate things to make their relationship stronger in the end.
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Posted 04 December 2009 - 04:30 AM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Dec 3 2009, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Sasuke is just another tragic hero. Kinda like Two-Face from Batman.

Once a hero, saw the ones he loved die, and decides to turn evil.





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Posted 04 December 2009 - 04:31 AM

On a different note, I think Kishi made Sasusaku much darker in this chapter than it's ever been before "Even if it means killing the one she loves". When you will go so far as to kill the person you love because you don't think you can save them from the evil that's consuming them, that's not true undying love: that's an unhealthy relationship. Now, if Kishimoto decides to go down that path with Sakura, then that's his decision, but it would complete change Sakura from the confident girl she is now to a truly dark character. I personally love her character because of her motif (a cherry blossom that is blooming). If she did this, then we would never get to see her truly blossom, which would be a shame.
I agree that the shattered image of Team 7 was very moving. I think it is an important moment in the series. This is the first time that Naruto has had serious doubts about being able to rebuild their team and making everything go back to the way it was. Personally, I'm rooting for him to find a solution because although I'm not too fond of Sasuke, Naruto has worked too hard for this to just fail now.
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Posted 04 December 2009 - 06:16 AM

QUOTE (Namikaze Minato @ Dec 3 2009, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thats a bad comparison, i believe u still like ur ex because he did liked u and was nice, etc.... but sasuke didnt cared about sakura all along, he said it! he cares alot more about naruto, tell me any sweet conversation sasuke had with sakura? the bench scene it was naruto, they only talked when he left, and even with her crying he still didnt show "caring" feelings... how can u love when u dont get anything from the other person, thats not a relashionship she is living a lie...
The only unconditional love that exists is mother\father love, cuz only a mother can forgive everything to her child, sakura dont know anything about sasuke well they almost never talked! I trully dont believe someone can love another if theres REALLY nothing in return, the only thing he gave to her was suffering, humilliation, some kicks and some punchs...


Are you seriously trying to negate Sakura's love for Sasuke just because he doesn't love her back? She loves him. I'm a NaruSaku fan, do NOT misinterpret what I am about to say.

A person can love someone without them loving you back. To be IN love, in my opinion, is for both to accept that they are meant for one another. (hence why I am a narusaku fan, Sasuke has no room in his heart for loving anything other than revenge.)

At no point in my argument did I say Sakura was being logical in her love. Love isn't logical, they can hurt you, tear you apart from the inside out, but you still manage to have strong feelings for them. I'm not sure if you've ever felt like that about someone. Someone that you couldn't let go of, someone you knew was beautiful, and someone you respected enough to continue to care about them even if they put you down. Love is a messed up thing some times, it isn't as simple as dropping it. But in the end, there are choices, you can choose to leave that person to try and forget and move on, which Sakura is TRYING to do.

Anyway. yea. I don't blame Sakura for loving Sasuke or at least still having feelings for him. I understand it's not logical, but you can't help how you feel. Maybe she'll be completely turned off from him after he almost kills her in this fight they're about to get into. I just really hope Naruto doesn't try to move on.

Love is everything.




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