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[catsi563]

=^__^= I can haz whole chapter?

[Chew]

OF COURSE! I shall name it....

Chronicles of teh epic Catsi.

Anyways back on topic, I do hope we see some more growth from Sakura from this point on. and more narusaku. >=D.



Edit: Pizza is good.


Double edit: I shall keep this edit button stamped on my forehead.

Edited by chewp900, 07 August 2009 - 08:07 PM.
Double posting...again

[chouzu_tao]

In many ways Sakura feelings may mirror narutos int his regards. How long has it been since Yamato so clearly pointed her feelings towards him out?

in a way she may be suffering from the same thoughts as him.

"how can i be worthy of his love for me? How can i be worthy to love him when I cant even keep my own promise to him? Whne I cant even do more then little things for him?"

Yamaots words to her may come back full circle soon as Sakura realizes that the strength of her feelings for naruto may be all she needs to push herself forwards and come out victorious over whatever obstacle she faces eve Sasuke.

I even hold the opinion that she may defeat Sasuke straight up in a fight by following Narutos example during his fight with Gaara where he faced an near overwhelming opponent and with nothing more then guts and his desire to protect Sakura who he loves driving him crushed Gaara.

She too may be the one crawling or dragging herself towards a battered and downed Sasuke who is telling her to "Keep away!!" while she tells him how she feels about naruto and how she wont let him take away those who are precious to her that shell kill him first.

Where I can see Sakura confronting Sasuke on Naruto and Team 7's behalf. I don't see her pulling out the win... With Naruto Vs Gaara. Sure Gaara was overwhelming but not only did Naruto have guts but he had hidden abilities to back him up. Sakura for all intents and purposes is a 'normal' girl. No extra chakra pool. No biju. No bloodline limit. I know Sasori wasn't a push over but I would venture to say Sasuke is a bigger threat than Sasori. I do see Naruto and Sakura confronting him together. It would cut the chains of hatred. Because if Sakura went at it alone and got seriously injured... Naruto could grow to hate Sasuke.

[Chew]

Hmm....I forgot about that promise Sakura made Naruto while in his four tailed state(even though he didnt hear a word she said).

She said I'll save Sasuke for you or something like that. And then in Part I, at the end, she said "next time we'll do it together!"

So you do bring up a very good point my friend

Edit: I'm just going to listen now...

[catsi563]

Ahh but there in lies the rpesaging from of all people Rock Lee.

Lee wanted to show that a genius could be defeated by hard work.

Sakura has taken what was a genraly average to below averag Shinobi and through hard work made herself into something special.

it is this special ability which would in the context of the story enable her to win.

Aslo slightly less important but somewhat relevant is the old Snake beats toad beats slug beats snake argument in which team 7 paralells the sanin in this regard.

Add in Sakuras promise and we have the foundations upon which a sakura victory over sasuke becomes all the more likely. A person who Sasuke said would never amount to anything as a ninja who Sasuke barely acknowledged as a teamate.

A kunoichi who was once nothing special and was to quote sasuke "frankly your ability is below Narutos" turns out to be the one to finally defeat him. it has some delicous irony in it and a healthy dose of Story resolution.

OF COURSE! I shall name it....

Chronicles of teh epic Catsi.

WOOT!!

mmmmmmm pizza

Edited by catsi563, 07 August 2009 - 08:02 PM.

[Chivalrysae]

I don't see Sakura defeating Sasuke. There's just too much of a level gap as far as ninja abilities. We all know that Naruto had more than guts to defeat Gaara. What I do see if Sakura being the catalyst for Naruto defeating Sasuke in much the same was she was the catalyst for him in the Gaara fight. He was able to kick it up a notch knowing that she needed him. Maybe it will come down to him being almost defeated, and Sakura telling him that she needs him so he can't lose. Since losing to Sasuke might mean his death considering how powered up they are, he may draw up even more power than he knew he had before.

[Sakura Blossoms]

OF COURSE! I shall name it....

Chronicles of teh epic Catsi.

Anyways back on topic, I do hope we see some more growth from Sakura from this point on. and more narusaku. >=D.



Edit: Pizza is good.

Okay. Last warning about this. Stop double posting, and use the EDIT button on the bottom right hand side of your original post, to add more writing/comments to your post, and stop posting a new comment one after the other.

[Chew]

Sorry about that, sometimes I forget that button is there. D:

Edit: (that and I'm a bit hyper)

Edited by chewp900, 07 August 2009 - 08:14 PM.

[Sir Whirly]

Am I the only one disappointed by Ino? Seriously, crying over Sasuke, who she has had no interaction at all in the entire manga. I mean WTF? Sakura I can understand, but Ino? Kishi is making all the girls in Konoha look pretty damn shallow...

[Pite]

I think the whole manga is about hard work being more powerful than any talent. Skura is one example from being deficient in nearly all combat statistics she was able to beat Sasori (with some help), Lee was able to hold Kimimaro for a while, Naruto beat the living snot out of Pain's puppets.

But also shows that talent can be improved through hard work, look at Kakashi who is both talented but also is an hard worker. Jiraya is also a good example, even better than Naruto, since Jiraya did not have a giant nuclear reaction in his belly and had to drag himself into Sage-ship through earnest hard work.

[Sir Whirly]

I think the whole manga is about hard work being more powerful than any talent. Skura is one example from being deficient in nearly all combat statistics she was able to beat Sasori (with some help), Lee was able to hold Kimimaro for a while, Naruto beat the living snot out of Pain's puppets.

But also shows that talent can be improved through hard work, look at Kakashi who is both talented but also is an hard worker. Jiraya is also a good example, even better than Naruto, since Jiraya did not have a giant nuclear reaction in his belly and had to drag himself into Sage-ship through earnest hard work.

Yes I understand that aspect of the manga, I am talking about the personal feeling of Ino and others. Her crying over someone who has, in my knowledge, never even looked at her.

[catsi563]

We cant really judge Ino at this moment due to the fact that the reason behind her crying is ambiguous at best. She could be crying for any number of reasons none of which involve Sasuke.

While Shikamarus statements do seem to indicate she has some lingering feelings and those feelings may be stronger for sasuke then have been indicated no cofirmation has been made yet and untill it is, the reason remains speculation.

[Pite]

Yes I understand that aspect of the manga, I am talking about the personal feeling of Ino and others. Her crying over someone who has, in my knowledge, never even looked at her.

Sorry I did not mean to answer your question, but I think that it is weird that Ino is crying over Sasuke since he has left them for many many years and has nearly caused the death of most of her friends.

[Sir Whirly]

We cant really judge Ino at this moment due to the fact that the reason behind her crying is ambiguous at best. She could be crying for any number of reasons none of which involve Sasuke.

While Shikamarus statements do seem to indicate she has some lingering feelings and those feelings may be stronger for sasuke then have been indicated no cofirmation has been made yet and untill it is, the reason remains speculation.

Yeah, but ambiguous has been a mainstay of this manga. So to see that, the correlation seems to fit.

[Verilance]

I really can't understand people being so hard on Ino.

If you were having a discussion that involves a group of friends talking about killing one of there friends who had turned to a life of crime for the good of the community don't you think it could get a little emotional especially when a certain girl had feelings (however shallow they may have been) for the boy in question.

I guess people have no emotions here i dunno

The same thing bugs me about people going on and on about Sakura crying. Hell I don't cry often possibly do to upbringing I don't know but there have been times in my life when I have wailed like a litttle girl.

People cry some people cry more than others some people cry for different reasons.

My ex-wife would cry when we were fighting I would stop arguing because she was crying and that would only make her madder

Edited by Verilance, 07 August 2009 - 10:18 PM.

[Smiter]

Edit - Lulz Smiter, I was already posting this, just kind of nodded off for a few while editing before I hit Add Reply

I'm simply too fast.

Thank you that was vary enlightening,I hope you can help us with other mysterys of nipon,for instance what does -chan mean I've asked before but never got the same answer twice,anyway thanks a lot.

"chan" is a suffix, usually used as a term of endearment. Literally, "chan" means "little". "Sakura-chan" is Naruto's way of addressing her in an affectionate way. It can also be used by adults/older children addressing younger children.

The thing that always gets me with statements like these, or comments from the other side saying that Sakura *will* end up with Sasuke, is that there is the huge GLARING problem of Sasuke not showing any interest in Sakura...whatsoever

How exactly will she just randomly end up with a killer missing-nin, whom has betrayed the village and his friends multiple times over, and who doesn't care about anyone, or anything except whatever killing is on his agenda next...and in this case it's the Kages next.

Sasuke doesn't even know what true love is. And Kishimoto doesn't do stuff for no reason. He wouldn't pair Sakura up with Sasuke with all these negatives going for such a pairing. This manga is all about hope, and achieving ones highest goals despite all the hardships, and obstacles thrown in one's way. Kishimoto wouldn't reward Sasuke like that, and leave Naruto his main character out in the cold like that, after all that Naruto has done to better himself, and to help all those around him whom he loves and cares for.

Quoted. For. Truth.

Too many people tend to forget that it takes two to create a relationship. A one-sided relationship will never happen.


I agree with the theory that Sakura and Naruto will try to find Sasuke again on their own, and stop him first. If they can't persuade him to stop, then they'll be forced to kill him. I think, in a way, they feel personally responsible for Sasuke since he was part of the old Team 7. So, they'll want to handle it themselves.

Of course, we must remember that Naruto and Sakura do not know WHY Sasuke is doing what he's doing. They don't know that Itachi was actually forced to kill his own family, and that Danzou is (possibly) the one responsible for making the order. Of course, that doesn't excuse Sasuke's decision to capture Killerbee and work with Madara. My prediction is that Naruto and Sakura will beat some sense into Sasuke, but it is at least comforting to know that they acknowledge things aren't the same.

On the subject of Sakura's feelings... we could be in for a LONG wait! There is also the chance that she might try to persuade Naruto to "love" someone else, because she doesn't feel worthy (calling him an idiot, and thinking that all she's done is make mistakes).

Hmm, 5 chapters left before H&E's birthday, with the 6th on the birthday week. Hopefully we'll get more on Sakura's feelings by then!

[dl316bh]

The problem with Ino's reaction really lies in her lack of development, which is a problem with most of the Nine. This seems out of character for her because we haven't really seen much of her at all for the longest time and the many issues surrounding Sasuke didn't seem to provoke such a strong reaction before. Thus, it seems out of the blue.

It's more a problem with the way things have been handled as far as development of the Nine than the character herself. Really, there's no reason why the Nine couldn't have been given some true spotlight time in Part 2 by now. We wasted so much time on Sasuke and that could have been prime timing for a few scenes with the Nine chillin' and thinking things over. Alas, nothing.

I guess people have no emotions here i dunno

I'll be straight with you; that's a rather rude thing to say or even imply just because some people justly see a problem with a scene.

Kishi is making all the girls in Konoha look pretty damn shallow...

This is an equally stupid thing to say. Really? Shallow? Because of showing emotions? Suddenly girls can't show emotions without looking shallow?

Is there really any nice way to react to such a statement? Because I'm having difficulties.

The thing that always gets me with statements like these, or comments from the other side saying that Sakura *will* end up with Sasuke, is that there is the huge GLARING problem of Sasuke not showing any interest in Sakura...whatsoever

I think some shippers desperately cling to Sasuke wanting to propagate his clan again way back in the beginning for this. Because Sakura was originally holding a childish crush on Sasuke, she's the immediate go-to girl for this, apparently. Despite the fact that he could do such with most anybody, for one thing, and his clear disdain for her for another.

Edited by dl316bh, 07 August 2009 - 11:13 PM.

[Verilance]

I apologize for the way it came out that of course was not what I was intending to say and you are right it was rude.

I was just trying to point out why I have no problem with Ino crying and was thinking aloud on the keyboard

Edited by Verilance, 07 August 2009 - 11:22 PM.

[Gaara]

Love the NaruSaku part of this chapter. It looks very good for our pairing right now.
Oh, and Ino crying was out of place. It looks like Kishi wants NaruSaku and is now trying to find Alternatives for Sasuke. But there is really no developement between Ino and Sasuke. NaruSaku is actually the only pairing with developement. So I think he should end the story with NaruSaku happened and maybe some hints at ShikaTema and maybe InoChouji and/or HinataKiba or HinataShino.

But that Kage meeting made me think: Those are all horrible Kages! What the hell? Not even Gaara is really trustworthy (he was a murder once after all).

People like Kakashi or Shikamaru would lead that Alliance better than any of those Kages.

Edited by Gaara, 07 August 2009 - 11:29 PM.

[Pite]

All those people are warriors but also politicians my friend. Lies, deceit, hidden intentions and burdens from the past pile up.