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[SageNaru]

Just out of curiosity, those rods the Pein put in Naurto's body, are they still there? If they are, could that be why Naruto is being led closer to Nagato?

I think that destruction of the necklace was very pivotal to Naruto's development. To this point, it has been a crutch for him to bail him out should he lose control. And now that it is no longer there, we can see Naruto's will of fire. It's a common theme that even against the toughest odds, he wills his way on top. And I think this is yet another challenge for him. His friends, his village, his girl...he will look to them for strength in order to be able to control and suppress the Kyuubi.

When this battle is over he will be able to see the city laid to waste, not just by Pein but by him. He will take to lessons away from this. 1. He will need to become even stronger to protect the people he loves. 2. He needs to learn to control and suppress the Kyuubi's powers so that doesn't happen again. It would be great if he is able to meet Killer Bee and maybe learn tips from someone like him who has been able to co-exist with his Bijuu. I think the time is ticking to the day that the seal on the Kyuubi completely breaks, and when the time comes, Naruto needs to develop his own strength to contain, control, or destroy that power.

I am also wondering how badly damaged Naruto's body will be when he is brought back to human form. And I would like to see a final exchange with Hinata. Something along the lines of Sakura trying to heal her (even though she knows the wound is mortal), and Hinata telling Sakura it's a lost cause and pleading for her to go save Naruto.

No. The rods fell out when he went kyuubi. Right now 6 tails just wants to kill Pein.

It would be awesome to see Naruto and Killer Bee training together.

And I think the damage would be pretty bad. Considering how bad it was when he came back from 4 tails.

[Broken Figurine]

I have one question; what did Katsuya mean when she said, "Part of me is with Naruto so I know."? I could have missed something, but I was confused.

[Nate River]

Well personally i think hinatas done for. when naruto supressed Pains attack he didn't move at all. then he charged his chakra attack and to me it looked as if it exploded right there rather than shooting oof somewhere else, meaning hinata was cought in the blast. is this just me seeing this or is anyone else noticing this? if im wrong plz correct me.

I think the odds that she was in the blast are virtually zero. First, it's about the most undramatic way for her to go out. I think Kishi has a thing for the dramatic and almost every good guy of consequence has gotten to utter some sort of final words. Instead of dying before Naruto eyes by eating a Shinra Tensei to the face or being stabbed or uttering some dramatic final words she would just happen to die as collateral damage. It doesn't seem like his style.

The other reasons that many of us think Kishi hasn't got the onions to do it, but even if he does, that isn't how Kishi typically kills people off.

[Sir Whirly]

I have one question; what did Katsuya mean when she said, "Part of me is with Naruto so I know."? I could have missed something, but I was confused.

Tsunade gave Naruto a piece of Katsuya and was placed in his pocket.

[True]

Hinata should be alive since Sakura said to retrieve her.

If she was instantly killed off by the Shinra Tensei and stabbing I'd say so, but the fact that she said Naruto's name and has a pulse leads me to believe she'll survive.

[Derock]

Hinata should be alive since Sakura said to retrieve her.

If she was instantly killed off by the Shinra Tensei and stabbing I'd say so, but the fact that she said Naruto's name and has a pulse leads me to believe she'll survive.

Yeah, but she survived, barely and I believe Pain hit a vital organ. Hinata will die in a matter of seconds by the time Sakura get there. Her life right now is hanging on a thread.

[Nate River]

Yeah, but she survived, barely and I believe Pain hit a vital organ. Hinata will die in a matter of seconds by the time Sakura get there. Her life right now is hanging on a thread.

You know, I just thought of something. To our knowledge, has Sakura ever lost a patient or failed to save someone? If Sakura supposed to grow up this is one possibility. I really don't think he's going to do this, but your post made me think ok it.

[Derock]

You know, I just thought of something. To our knowledge, has Sakura ever lost a patient or failed to save someone? If Sakura supposed to grow up this is one possibility. I really don't think he's going to do this, but your post made me think ok it.

Well, I think that scene where she was healing a jam-pack full of people in the hospital before Pain used the Shinra Tensei may count. I noticed that she was becoming more frustrated that she and the other medics can't heal alot of people because their chakra was getting low. But that may not be the issue here.

[Nate River]

Well, I think that scene where she was healing a jam-pack full of people in the hospital before Pain used the Shinra Tensei may count. I noticed that she was becoming more frustrated that she and the other medics can't heal alot of people because their chakra was getting low. But that may not be the issue here.

No, I wouldn't expect it to be inability to do so. if it happens, it'll be because they are too late. However, because it's a friend she may blame herself nonetheless. Like I said, I don't expect it, it's just something I thought of when I read your post.

[SageNaru]

I don't think she'll be able to heal her. Or she just might be too late. If Sakura can't heal her than I would like to see a little talk between Hinata and Sakura.

[Onionhead Attacks]

If Sakura even has enough chakra left, I think she'd try her best to stop the bleeding and seal up the wound somewhat since she probably won't have enough chakra to fully heal the wound.

[trivia212005]

Not to go off topic or anything but we all noticed something about Dragonball Z and Naruto.

Naruto 1-Tailed=Super Saiyan 1
Naruto 3-Tailed=Super Saiyan 2
Naruto 6-Tailed=Super Saiyan 3
Naruto 9-Tailed=SUPER SAIYAN 4?????

[Derock]

Not to go off topic or anything but we all noticed something about Dragonball Z and Naruto.

Naruto 1-Tailed=Super Saiyan 1
Naruto 3-Tailed=Super Saiyan 2
Naruto 6-Tailed=Super Saiyan 3
Naruto 9-Tailed=SUPER SAIYAN 4?????

And this is one of the reasons why I hate the fandom because they compare it with DBZ. Please no discussing about the Naruto = DBZ comparison.

[roninmedia]

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I think the Kishimoto = Rowling romance development is worse.


The whole confession scene still reeks of a certain fear of rejection by Hinata. It's the case of letting all your feelings out at the point where you feel there is no return; Hinata essentially knew she had no chance in the fight with Pein. Hinata was not expecting to come back so in that sense she had to get the confession off her chest. However, such timing in expressing said feelings can certainly be perceived a feel of failure/rejection.

So I believe after surviving, she will revert back more align to her subdued self so the scene in response to her confession will be mainly Naruto's dialogue without such a push from Hinata. I don't see her strongly reaffirming it verbally at that point in time. I can't see her confidently reaffirming it, however, if rejected, I think she will be confident enough to move on if she so wanted.

Edited by roninmedia, 07 March 2009 - 05:15 AM.

[Nee-sama]

If Sakura even has enough chakra left, I think she'd try her best to stop the bleeding and seal up the wound somewhat since she probably won't have enough chakra to fully heal the wound.

Hopefully, she saves the rest of her chakra to heal Naruto. Then she will pass out next to him and the camera will fade out with the two of them asleep under a tree... Then, Naruto will wake up and think he's hurt her again, so he'll panic, "Sakura-chan! Not again!" Until she wakes up and then....


*pinch* damn the dream's over.

[Urazz]

Hinata should be alive since Sakura said to retrieve her.

If she was instantly killed off by the Shinra Tensei and stabbing I'd say so, but the fact that she said Naruto's name and has a pulse leads me to believe she'll survive.

Nah, I'm thinking it's going to end up being Sakura trying everything she can to save Hinata but since her chakra is too low, she'll fail and Hinata will give her last words to Sakura. Sure it would be cliched but there's not much that can be done nowadays without being a bit cliched.

[SageNaru]

Nah, I'm thinking it's going to end up being Sakura trying everything she can to save Hinata but since her chakra is too low, she'll fail and Hinata will give her last words to Sakura. Sure it would be cliched but there's not much that can be done nowadays without being a bit cliched.

I agree. It really doesn't seem like she has enough chakra to heal her. Especially with the wound Hinata has. And Hinata having her last words with Sakura would be cliched but I would really like to see that.

[True]

Nah, I'm thinking it's going to end up being Sakura trying everything she can to save Hinata but since her chakra is too low, she'll fail and Hinata will give her last words to Sakura. Sure it would be cliched but there's not much that can be done nowadays without being a bit cliched.

Hmm that's possibility, but seems too shoujish for me. She gives her dying words to Sakura to love Naruto for her right before she dies? I can't see that happening in Shounen, but eh who knows.

I'm torn on Hinata dying. For one I'd be glad if she did because that would mean Kishimoto actually went through with it and killed someone from the younger generation. Yet if she does die then from a NaruSaku standpoint it would feel as if the only reason NaruHina didn't happen is because Hinata died. I'd much rather prefer if Naruto was to speak with her about her confession and turn her down then have it that Hinata dies and Naruto doesn't have a word in it. Her death to me would just be used as a plot device then to turn Naruto into the six tails and nothing more if her confession isn't resolved with closure from Naruto himself.

I mean already her character relevancy prior to this incident wasn't important and overall it won't effect the plot much except for Naruto turning into six tails and potentially getting captured. If thats the legacy her character leaves behind then it be some shotty development for her and reduced to just a plot device. Then again part 2 focuses primarily on Team 7 and their development as the manga progresses to a close so it may just be to further their characters instead of the side characters.

[Hopestar]

Should she die or not die that is the question of the decade!
We know Kishi doesn't have the to kill his younger characters but if so then bravo to him but NH would argue that NS was only possible due to Hinata's death, so it may be essential that she lives. Besides Sakura's charka should have recharge a little bit by now so she has more available to her. Perhaps it would be a great seen between Hinata & Sakura should Hinata dies.

Sakura is taking charge and who knows Kishi may have her become Rokudaime instead of Naruto. Trust me once he figures out what the Hokage really does, besides defending the village, he may reconsider like Jiraiya.

At this point of the game Naruto might as well be capture because the only ones who can deal with him in his current state is Pain and Yamato. Unfortunately we don't know how far away Yamato is from the village so it will take him awhile unless Sai paint him a bird he can ride on, it maybe too late by the time he arrives! Therefore only leaves Pain and we know where that will lead. Plus Naruto destroy his necklace so Yamato may not be able to help him at all! If he doesn't need the necklace then you better bet it will be a b*tch and possibly can end his life just to suppress Kyubi all because Konoha and Naruto himself refuse to control the kyubi power.

Therefore, as much as you all hate for another Rescue arc, we can cover a lot through this time period like for example: At least we will have some development on other characters especially Sakura (hint hint ). Besides Konoha still doesn't know about Sasuke's involvement with the Akatsuki, we know don't know the full power of Madara, Konan, & Zetsu since neither have fought yet, Cloud & Akatsuki are unaware that Killerbee escape and still lives, Danzo's evil ploy to takeover Konoha and overthrow Tsunade, and Kabuto's whereabouts.

[Jenskott]

Despite the spoilers hinted otherwise, I enjoyed this chapter more than the former one.

Of course, it was great seeing Sakura taking charge and ensuing orders (although everyone assumed she'd evacuate with the other villagers cause the spoiler), and seeing Six-Tailed Naruto. Again, it's interesting the fox broke the necklace, and I wonder what it'll lead at.

I'm less pleased about several characters stating Hinata's injuries were the trigger. They were the straw broke the camel's back.

I shall not speculate about Naruto being captured because I don't try predict events in this manga anymore.

And this is one of the reasons why I hate the fandom because they compare it with DBZ. Please no discussing about the Naruto = DBZ comparison.

I also hate that. Not matter what Kishimoto does, people always compares it with DragonBall (which they always call DragonBall Z). I'm sorry, but there're more series in the world to draw ideas from, and powerups are usual and frequent in any action/fighting-based manga. Hell, even in sports manga.

I'm torn on Hinata dying. For one I'd be glad if she did because that would mean Kishimoto actually went through with it and killed someone from the younger generation. Yet if she does die then from a NaruSaku standpoint it would feel as if the only reason NaruHina didn't happen is because Hinata died.

I don't understand why you think that, True. If Kishimoto planned killing Hinata, then it's obvious Kishimoto never intended NaruHina happened. Hence, even though he didn't kill her, he wouldn't get Naruto and her together.

It's like the "Sakura only befriended/fell in love with Naruto because Sasuke left! If he'd have stayed, never it'd have happened!" argument, which ignores one basic law of storytelling: the author controls absolutely everything what is in the history: world's shape, events, character's personalities and evolution... Why do you think the hero or heroine's attacks always hit the target when he really needs it, but the villain's attacks always fail when he's about of killing the hero/heroine?

Therefore, if Kishimoto planned developing a deep relationship between Naruto and Sakura -and it's my guess that was his intention, given that it'd been happening since the start of the book-, it would have happened, regardless Sasuke leaving or staying.

Of course, I hope NaruHina and SasuSaku fans gainsaying me. Even if NaruSaku happens, most of them won't understand why or how happened, and they'll make up excuses of why it shouldn't have happened (right like we'd do if NaruHina happens), instead of accepting the hints NaruSaku fans saw were, indeed, hints. After all, you still find Avatar fans claiming they could rewatch the entire series twice and they'd never see the moment where Katara fell in love with Aang.

I hope nothing on my argument above sounded like if I'm bashing NaruHina/SasuSaku/Zutara fans, because I can assure that wasn't and isn't my intention at all. If someone felt offended, I'm awfully sorry.