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#81 SweetGoodbye18

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:11 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Blossoms @ Feb 27 2009, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is a bit off-topic, but I just have to speak up here tongue.gif

I'm not really sure just where you were looking, but there was certainly *tons* of celebrating here points at our Avatar thread with the pairing poll XD, on Youtube, LiveJournal, and other places.

Zutara was hella popular yes, but Kataang was just as popular, and I know that we *here* certainly rejoiced when that pairing became official happy.gif

Back on topic:


Yosha! :thumbs:


Welcome back, pal XD

I see how crazy things are going over at NF, and we welcome you back to our little piece of insanity, here at H&E tongue.gif


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When in the mist of my exploring after the series finale, I did not come to this board. As for youtube nothing really tremendous that I could find . Hmmmm probably dint look hard enough lol. On the popularity of the pairing I based my opinion on Deviantart and Fanfiction.net . There was no explosion like something I would have expected from the Zutara community, but we did have the reputations of being extreme fangirls and a bit obnoxious when excited happy.gif

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:12 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Blossoms @ Feb 27 2009, 03:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This might be what's happening:

Ships that pass in the night

That was quite insightful, thanks Shauna-chan. As for me again this moment does NOT make NaruHina canon (especially considering Hinata might be dead), did anyone else see Naruto say "I love you" back? Cuz I sure as hell didn't.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:13 AM

QUOTE (UzumakiEdward85 @ Feb 27 2009, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That was quite insightful, thanks Shauna-chan. As for me again this moment does NOT make NaruHina canon (especially considering Hinata might be dead), did anyone else see Naruto say "I love you" back? Cuz I sure as hell didn't.


It's in the fine print. You must've missed it.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:22 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Blossoms @ Feb 27 2009, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This might be what's happening:

Ships that pass in the night

Wow...did not know there's actually a site that analyzed all of this... It makes me depressed to read so many other examples of bascially the author being a dictator/douchebag. Maybe I'm just too logical a person for manga plot twists. There's certainly a chance that Kishi is following this formula, in which case I really will quit Naruto forever (prob a lie...I shipped H/Hr for HP but still ended up reading the 7th book, albeit a library copy)

But, I still believe.

Edited by pal2002, 27 February 2009 - 08:25 AM.


#85 Sakura Blossoms

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:31 AM

QUOTE (pal2002 @ Feb 27 2009, 03:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow...did not know there's actually a site that analyzed all of this... It makes me depressed to read so many other examples of bascially the author being a dictator/douchebag. Maybe I'm just too logical a person for manga plot twists. There's certainly a chance that Kishi is following this formula, in which case I really will quit Naruto forever (prob a lie...I shipped H/Hr for HP but still ended up reading the 7th book, albeit a library copy)

But, I still believe.

You're better than me then, because I just couldn't read Book 7 after that whole H/Hr H/G mess ^^

Though I will continue to be interested in Naruto, if even just to see how it all ends. I've devoted a good chunk of my free time and interest to this manga and its characters, and I would just want to see how things ended up with Naruto and Sakura, if nothing else.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:40 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Blossoms @ Feb 27 2009, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're better than me then, because I just couldn't read Book 7 after that whole H/Hr H/G mess ^^

Though I will continue to be interested in Naruto, if even just to see how it all ends. I've devoted a good chunk of my free time and interest to this manga and its characters, and I would just want to see how things ended up with Naruto and Sakura, if nothing else.


Surprisingly, after the inital scene of Harry/Ginny and the ending scenes/epilogue, the majority of the story has Harry and Hermione traveling together and
Ron leaves for a bit.

So despite me being a H/Hr fan, I still read the 7th book just to finish the series. I think I'll do the same for Naruto even if NaruHina happens >.>

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:41 AM

It seems the entire Narusaku fandom belives that stright after the fight, Naruto will just make out with Hinata right there on the field mellow.gif

And about the (wonderful) site that anlysed it, you do understand this article was about pairings that are NOT canon, not pairings that came out of the blue.

It's hard for me to compre Naruhina to HarryxGinny because, unlike Harry, Kishi has thrown about quite a few hints that Naruto's reltionship with Sakura could be more, unlike harry whos writer didn't really give him someone to bud up some romance.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:42 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Blossoms @ Feb 27 2009, 03:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This might be what's happening:

Ships that pass in the night


Where in the world did you find these stuff?

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It seems the entire Narusaku fandom belives that stright after the fight, Naruto will just make out with Hinata right there on the field mellow.gif


Now I don't think that way. (Making love with a corpse?! YUCK!!!~ times 50) I'm thinking about how this will affect the plot, the character and the climax.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:44 AM

lol we have lots of H/Hr shippers here biggrin.gif I'm glad.
the large NF poll on Hinata's death is currently at 40% - 60% yes - no. That is surprisingly high...considering 1) NF is overran with Hinatards and 2) similar polls on kakashi's death polled only a 25% - 75% (much higher for shizune, sadly). This doesn't make Hinata's death any more or less likely...but ppl acknoweldging her death is something big.

Edited by pal2002, 27 February 2009 - 08:45 AM.


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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:45 AM

QUOTE (Dormin @ Feb 27 2009, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It seems the entire Narusaku fandom belives that stright after the fight, Naruto will just make out with Hinata right there on the field mellow.gif

Yeah cuz Naruto is a total necropheliac. tongue.gif

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:46 AM

QUOTE (Dormin @ Feb 27 2009, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It seems the entire Narusaku fandom belives that stright after the fight, Naruto will just make out with Hinata right there on the field mellow.gif

Might as well let 'em. It tends to happen at even the slightest hint of trouble. Nothing we can do about it. =/

It saddens me, but whatta ya gonna do? Panic at the drop of a hat. I don't even want to know what NF is saying right now though, because I honestly have a terribly low opinion of that place to begin with.

Edited by dl316bh, 27 February 2009 - 08:48 AM.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:48 AM

QUOTE (dl316bh @ Feb 27 2009, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let 'em. It tends to happen at even the slightest hint of trouble. Nothing we can do about it. =/

It saddens me, but whatta ya gonna do? Panic at the drop of a hat. I don't even want to know what NF is saying right now though, because I honestly have a terribly low opinion of that place to begin with.


Majority of the fans there are probably randomly screaming their heads off about the chapter.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:54 AM

If Hinata survives I could honestly see something akin to the Hospital Scene in part one, except it is Hinata who is injured and Naruto who comes to visit. Naruto will try and speak but Hinata will cut him off with a sad smile and say "I know..." and accept that he dosn't have feelings for her.

I don't think were going to get a response from Kishimoto until well down the line, there's so much story left to resolve before he takes care of the pairings.

That or Kishimoto needed a continent plot device to get Naruto in Kyuubi form.
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:55 AM

I suppose I should put in my 2 cents. Honestly I think Hinata is dead as a doornail. The sound ex Text. The confession from Pein afterward of how it reminded him of how his parents were killed right in front of his eyes by Konoha Ninja. Plus the fact, people have been dropping like flies in Part 2. Part 2, especially this chapter particularly, reminded me of when the writers of the New Jedi Order were writing their books. Basically they were killing off, two major long standing characters to for a more dramatization of how life can be easily snuffed out in the times of war. Also, it puts the reader on edge, making them think that if particular long standing characters are being killed, its possible for anyone to go.

I think Kishi is doing this as well. We've been comfortable too long with how peaceful Konoha has been. They're been threats, people get injured, but everything works itself right and eventually everyone comes home. Kishi, is telling us, that's not happening anymore. The comfort zone, we've all built up, he decided to bring that crumbling down.

I mean Asuma was the first. But that lost wasn't so bad. He was a character a lot of people loved, but his lost wouldn't touch us all so much. Jiraiya, that was the first one that really got our attention. Then Shizune, death comes from left field. And now Hinata.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I hate to say it but we are in unknown territory now. Kansas has gone bye-bye...

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:55 AM

QUOTE (Radon @ Feb 27 2009, 03:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That or Kishimoto needed a continent plot device to get Naruto in Kyuubi form.

A likely possibility, I suspect.
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 09:02 AM

QUOTE (No WhereMan @ Feb 27 2009, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I suppose I should put in my 2 cents. Honestly I think Hinata is dead as a doornail. The sound ex Text. The confession from Pein afterward of how it reminded him of how his parents were killed right in front of his eyes by Konoha Ninja. Plus the fact, people have been dropping like flies in Part 2. Part 2, especially this chapter particularly, reminded me of when the writers of the New Jedi Order were writing their books. Basically they were killing off, two major long standing characters to for a more dramatization of how life can be easily snuffed out in the times of war. Also, it puts the reader on edge, making them think that if particular long standing characters are being killed, its possible for anyone to go.

I think Kishi is doing this as well. We've been comfortable too long with how peaceful Konoha has been. They're been threats, people get injured, but everything works itself right and eventually everyone comes home. Kishi, is telling us, that's not happening anymore. The comfort zone, we've all built up, he decided to bring that crumbling down.

I mean Asuma was the first. But that lost wasn't so bad. He was a character a lot of people loved, but his lost wouldn't touch us all so much. Jiraiya, that was the first one that really got our attention. Then Shizune, death comes from left field. And now Hinata.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I hate to say it but we are in unknown territory now. Kansas has gone bye-bye...


For this, I'm starting to see it more clearly. Hopefully it won't be ruined by the next couple of chapters, especially when Part 2 is more darker now.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 09:15 AM

Y'know what I've had enough of this guessing game already. Hinata is dead, do you honestly think Pein would've missed a vital spot in such close proximity and with nothing to interrupt him? He probably stabbed her through the heart so at least she didn't suffer. So unless someone in Konoha knows Tensei Jutsu (which is not bloody likely) Hinata is dead as a doornail.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 09:20 AM

Tonight Death comes a plot twist?

... I know, lame attempt to be witty. XD

I agree with Ed. I honestly think she's gone and everybody's gotten worked up for nothing. I only hope this leads to more interesting things from the manga.

Edited by dl316bh, 27 February 2009 - 09:22 AM.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 09:31 AM

I just realize something. Naruto is able to detect people's chakra with the natural energy he gathers for sage mode. Eventually Naruto will confirm if Hinata is dead or not. Then we will know the pairing fate. This is feels like torture. This was a depressing chapter. sad.gif

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 09:44 AM

QUOTE (Kag19 @ Feb 27 2009, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just realize something. Naruto is able to detect people's chakra with the natural energy he gathers for sage mode. Eventually Naruto will confirm if Hinata is dead or not. Then we will know the pairing fate. This is feels like torture. This was a depressing chapter. sad.gif

Chances are that probably will not happen because currently Naruto is a 6-tailed mini-kyuubi about to go on a rampage and as seen from what happened when he went 4 four tails... he passed out immediately after. Someone else will have to verify her death or magical reincarnation. *shrugs* we'll just have to wait and see.




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