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Posted 11 December 2007 - 02:09 AM

QUOTE (Yoshimoto Trigen @ Dec 10 2007, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd hate it if Sakura came out with Anthro babies. I would grab holy water and spray Sakura's

special place
and yell "THE POWER OF CHRIST REPELS YOU!"


111189.gif ................. lol

And Naruto will be after you with his own holy water tongue.gif

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Posted 11 December 2007 - 11:08 AM

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I'm not a scientist and I forgot half the classes on genetics I took years ago so I may be bsing but here goes anyways.

SasuSaku:
I don't think Pink hair is a dominant trait, so if she hooked up with Sasuke their kid would most likely end up with some sort of darker hair color, if not black. It probably will not be pink unless it's a fluke; Sasuke is going to be giving that kid lots of melanin, and it will make a difference.

NaruSaku:
Naruto and Sakura both having recessive traits? I dunno...their kid will have an interesting hair color. It will be a toss up! I see a lot of people will be spreading rumors of infidelity because there's a good chance the kid won't resemble either of them.

NaruHina:
I'm going to go with the Byakugan Trumps All and Naruto and Hinata would have a dark haired, light eyed baby born with byakugan.


Strength
As for natural strength? NaruHina would automatically be at an advantage. There's almost no way their kid wouldn't be born with the byakugan.

SasuSaku just squeaks into second with the possibility of their child developing the Sharingan.

And NaruSaku comes last; neither have any bloodline limits to give. Inner Sakura is NOT a bloodline limit; to me, it's like a weird form of MPD. Kyuubi has nothing to do with Naruto's genes, and I don't think chakra can influence anyone to the DNA level.

Nurture
As for nurturing. I think NaruHina would be the most slack (but slack is relative). I don't think Hinata would stand for repeating her father's mistake with her, and I don't think Naruto would object to that either. Kid would be a taijutsu specialist though coming from two parents who also are taijutsu specialists (Gentle fist + Ghetto Fist equals? lol!)

SasuSaku would be the most grueling. What good is reviving the Uchiha clan if they're all weak right? I think Sasuke would definitely be unconsciously influenced by his father's example. Their kid would be pushed, and Sakura would probably be the softer one but I don't think she could do much to convince Sasuke to ease off.

Though Sasuke would still love his kid, even if it's not obvious to the world. He would be the crazy parent who'd march to the school demanding their kid be taught real stuff.



The Parent-Teacher Conference
Teacher: Hell Uchiha-san, your son, Genji, is an excellent student. Especially in history and politics. He's an scholar in the making.
Sasuke: *Uchiha Glare on "stun"* History? History?! What is this nonsense you're teaching my kid? Do you know who he is?
Genji: *headdesk* ChiChi-ue... (thinking: must we go through this EVERY year?)
Teacher: Yes, Uchiha-sama I understand, but--
Sasuke: I want him focusing on taijutsu, ninjutsu and genjutsu drills. *hands scroll over to teacher*
Teacher: *opens scroll* You've created a training regimen for your son? *rolls the scroll down* But this is too much for even an adult? *the scroll is so long it's trailing on the floor*
Sasuke: Hn, it's not enough. My son is Uchiha. Luckily, I will be able to make up for the substandard education he recieves here once he comes home. Come on now son. *drags Genji away*
Teacher: W-where are you going?! We have a lecture on Shodaime today! There's an exam tomorrow!
Sasuke: We're getting started on that training regimen. History *snorts*!
Sasuke's son: *mouthing to the teacher behind Sasuke's back* Save Me Senseiiiiii!


If the kid develops the sharingan, it would be able to do all three types of jutsu and you'd better believe Sasuke would make sure he teaches him everything. EVERYTHING.

However, I think NaruSaku would be the most well balanced. With Sakura teaching the heaven and Naruto teaching the earth, it'll work out well. Also the work ethic of their kid would be crazy, almost like Lee. Sakura is book smart and probably studies all the time. Naruto is a genius of hard work and likes hands on experimentation. NaruSaku might have the smartest and most creative kid out of the three.


So strongest child

Either

1. SasuSaku's kid + Sharingan
2. NaruHina's kid (+ Byakugan, but this is a given)
3. NaruSaku

or

1. NaruHina
2. SasuSaku - Sharigan
3. NaruSaku

So NaruSaku ends up dead last for me in both. But come on, Naruto was deadlast and look how he turned out! XD
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Posted 11 December 2007 - 09:59 PM

Science + Manga = Shouldn't be together.

Let our imaginations run free! (As long as NaruSaku take the lead <;' )

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 03:03 AM

QUOTE (Leney @ Dec 11 2007, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looks
I'm not a scientist and I forgot half the classes on genetics I took years ago so I may be bsing but here goes anyways.

SasuSaku:
I don't think Pink hair is a dominant trait, so if she hooked up with Sasuke their kid would most likely end up with some sort of darker hair color, if not black. It probably will not be pink unless it's a fluke; Sasuke is going to be giving that kid lots of melanin, and it will make a difference.

NaruSaku:
Naruto and Sakura both having recessive traits? I dunno...their kid will have an interesting hair color. It will be a toss up! I see a lot of people will be spreading rumors of infidelity because there's a good chance the kid won't resemble either of them.

NaruHina:
I'm going to go with the Byakugan Trumps All and Naruto and Hinata would have a dark haired, light eyed baby born with byakugan.
Strength
As for natural strength? NaruHina would automatically be at an advantage. There's almost no way their kid wouldn't be born with the byakugan.

SasuSaku just squeaks into second with the possibility of their child developing the Sharingan.

And NaruSaku comes last; neither have any bloodline limits to give. Inner Sakura is NOT a bloodline limit; to me, it's like a weird form of MPD. Kyuubi has nothing to do with Naruto's genes, and I don't think chakra can influence anyone to the DNA level.

Nurture
As for nurturing. I think NaruHina would be the most slack (but slack is relative). I don't think Hinata would stand for repeating her father's mistake with her, and I don't think Naruto would object to that either. Kid would be a taijutsu specialist though coming from two parents who also are taijutsu specialists (Gentle fist + Ghetto Fist equals? lol!)

SasuSaku would be the most grueling. What good is reviving the Uchiha clan if they're all weak right? I think Sasuke would definitely be unconsciously influenced by his father's example. Their kid would be pushed, and Sakura would probably be the softer one but I don't think she could do much to convince Sasuke to ease off.

Though Sasuke would still love his kid, even if it's not obvious to the world. He would be the crazy parent who'd march to the school demanding their kid be taught real stuff.



The Parent-Teacher Conference
Teacher: Hell Uchiha-san, your son, Genji, is an excellent student. Especially in history and politics. He's an scholar in the making.
Sasuke: *Uchiha Glare on "stun"* History? History?! What is this nonsense you're teaching my kid? Do you know who he is?
Genji: *headdesk* ChiChi-ue... (thinking: must we go through this EVERY year?)
Teacher: Yes, Uchiha-sama I understand, but--
Sasuke: I want him focusing on taijutsu, ninjutsu and genjutsu drills. *hands scroll over to teacher*
Teacher: *opens scroll* You've created a training regimen for your son? *rolls the scroll down* But this is too much for even an adult? *the scroll is so long it's trailing on the floor*
Sasuke: Hn, it's not enough. My son is Uchiha. Luckily, I will be able to make up for the substandard education he recieves here once he comes home. Come on now son. *drags Genji away*
Teacher: W-where are you going?! We have a lecture on Shodaime today! There's an exam tomorrow!
Sasuke: We're getting started on that training regimen. History *snorts*!
Sasuke's son: *mouthing to the teacher behind Sasuke's back* Save Me Senseiiiiii!


If the kid develops the sharingan, it would be able to do all three types of jutsu and you'd better believe Sasuke would make sure he teaches him everything. EVERYTHING.

However, I think NaruSaku would be the most well balanced. With Sakura teaching the heaven and Naruto teaching the earth, it'll work out well. Also the work ethic of their kid would be crazy, almost like Lee. Sakura is book smart and probably studies all the time. Naruto is a genius of hard work and likes hands on experimentation. NaruSaku might have the smartest and most creative kid out of the three.
So strongest child

Either

1. SasuSaku's kid + Sharingan
2. NaruHina's kid (+ Byakugan, but this is a given)
3. NaruSaku

or

1. NaruHina
2. SasuSaku - Sharigan
3. NaruSaku

So NaruSaku ends up dead last for me in both. But come on, Naruto was deadlast and look how he turned out! XD


See, I don't particularly disagree with you or anything of the sort. What you have done is taken the bloodlines of the characters and then tried the baby making formula tongue.gif. I am just going to give my POV and how I view things :thumbs:

First of all the main thing is we don't know how the genetics works in Narutoverse. A few assumption you took and I am not saying whether they are valid or not are:

1) Byakugan is dominant -> We don't know whether it is or not? It might be or might be not. We also don't know the hyuuga clan system and whether they allow marriage outside of their clan or not. Lets assume they allow the marriage outside of their clan and Byakugan is dominant. Then there should be no problem as the children would have the byakugan from a hyuuga and a non hyuuga. If the byakugan is recessive and an outside clan marriage is allowed, the chance of a child from that marriage having the byakugan decreases. Thus, it is a big assumption that byakugan is dominant. If it isn't then a NaruHina kid wouldn't necessarily have the same advantage than the one with byakugan.

2) Sharingan is a recessive trait -> As Sasuke said that even in the Uchiha clan it only appeared in the select few. So, even if Sasuke and Sakura get together it doesn't necessarily mean that the children would have the sharingan. If they do well and good but if they don't, then what??

This is where I believed that more than having bloodlines, its a nurturing environment and the parental guidance that counts.

I guess this is where the difference is, I am thinking in terms of different environment provided for the kids and who will come out better. In this case there is NaruHina where it is my personal belief that unless Hinata develops her confidence she will remain under Naruto's shadow and thus the child would be subjected to two extremes. One is a quiet mother and the loud father. If the child has the byakugan then of course he would follow the hyuuga way and if he loud and obnoxious like his father we don't know how that would be viewed. Then there are other things too e.g. if the child doesn't have byakugan he would most likely learn from naruto and at the academy etc. My main point is basic character and personality - don't see the best combination from this pairing. Its either going to be a Hinata extreme child or Naruto extreme. (as per my POV)

In Sasuke and Sakura's case, I don't know what to think. Looking at Sasuke's personality in part 2, I just can't see Sakura being as easygoing with him as she is with Naruto. If Sakura gets subdued and Sasuke asserts authority as was the case in Sasuke's house then the child would look up to Sasuke for the praise. And, I don't see Sasuke as easygoing. Also, what would have if lets say Sasuke has 2 children and one of them has the sharingan and the other doesn't. Who would be concentrate more on and all the other psychological stuff that goes on. At the moment its a tough cookie to follow. I can't even say how the children will develop because again my bias will come in big time.

For NaruSaku, I think would be the best environment for the children whether it is with a bloodline or without. I am sure if its with a bloodline, it going to be a new one so there is no clan stuff or anything to deal with and Sakura and Naruto already have no bloodline so a child without a bloodline would not feel out of place or anything. Even if the child is not overtly strong in the beginning, he will be able to develop properly because Sakura would be able to help him if he/she has less chakra, since she has already experienced it. If a child is more chakra oriented than Naruto would be able to help with his techniques. Even without all this, I think NaruSaku would be the best of parents because of the environment that they would have inside the house. It won't be overtly strict or lax. Sakura would be the disciplinarian and Naruto would spoil the kids a little tongue.gif
Both of them are stubborn people and don't like to lose and I think this would be one of the things the children would take with them because neither Naruto nor Sakura would act differently in front of each other. They are both free spirits and I am sure they would let their children find their own path as well.

If you are talking about initial strength of having bloodlines to not having bloodlines sure sharingan and byakugan sure that would make the kid/s strong but personally I think it takes more than just good genes to produce strong children. Personality, environment and a lot of other things come into perspective.

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 03:07 AM

And I thought I was obsessed O_O

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 07:33 PM

Haha. You know, I once saw a mini-comic where Sasuke went to kill Itachi with an army of pink haired Uchihas and he died of laughter... literally. XD
Anyway I think Naruto and Sakura's child will be the most powerfull.Most people pointed out why.

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 08:41 PM

QUOTE (marinka18 @ Dec 12 2007, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haha. You know, I once saw a mini-comic where Sasuke went to kill Itachi with an army of pink haired Uchihas and he died of laughter... literally. XD


HOW DID THAT ARTIST FIGURE OUT MY PLANS FOR KISHIMOTO!?

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 07:34 AM

QUOTE (Wilson @ Nov 12 2007, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lol, i reckon if Naruto had a child, Kyuubi stuff would definitely be passed on, so yeah, with Sakura's chakra control and Naruto's immense chakra capacity....ho ho, one strong as child coming up. XD


Passed on? I doubt it. Kyuubi's a sealed demon, not a genetic trait... huh.gif

As far as who would have the strongest kid, that entirely depends on the kid. Characters like Rock Lee, Naruto, and Sakura show us that it's not your genes or fate that determine your strength, but the strength of your will.

Of course, I would vote for NaruSaku by that, as those two are the about the most stubborn characters in Naruto. So if their kid took after them, s/he's have the mindset of a champion. But again that's up to the kid.

No offense to anyone who likes the idea, but I can't stand the whole 'Kyuubi passed on to Naruto's kids' concept. The thing is sealed inside of him. It's not a genetic part of him. It's not a bloodline ability. Unless he ripped Kyuubi out of his stomach and resealed it in his kid, it probably ain't happening.

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 04:55 PM

I've had several thoughts on this a while back. I do believe that in reality, not only the parents would affect the children, but so would the people outside of the family (example: SasuSaku-Naruto would definitely become a surrogate uncle of sorts I'm sure, and vice versa for NaruSaku)

In my opinion, in physical strength, I think I would go with Naruto and Sakura. This is for a variety of reasons. First off, I think of Naruto's own parents (namely Minato). The man had a lot of chakra, if I'm correct, and was considered a living legend in his day. I imagine that if Naruto and Sakura had kids, that immense amount of chakra, one way or another, would be passed down. If that wasn't the case, then they may as well have great chakra control, seeing as Sakura seems to naturally have the ability to control hers perfectly. Like previously stated, Naruto would be the 'best Dad in the world' and spoil the kids, while Sakura, as loving as she would be, would be the one in the family who makes the rules (because we know Naruto would be whipped laugh.gif ). This brings me to the idea of the Rasengan (I know, I know, very typical to write, but bare with me). Using the Rasengan involves controlling your chakra while building it up to a powerful level. Imagine having a level of chakra somewhere around Naruto's with Sakura's tutelage in control. It may very well be a good combination in teaching the child the Rasengan. In the concept of outside influences, I'm sure Sasuke, if he were around when Naruto and Sakura had the kid, would probably either A) have little contact with the kid, B ) be an uncle to the girl/boy, C) help Naruto and Sakura's child train when he had the time. Call me crazy, but for some odd reason I just imagine that if Naruto brought back the Uchiha, Sasuke would try and start over, and maybe being close to the children would help.

Okay...NaruHina. This pair would also seem legitimate in strength. In my opinion, I think that the Byakugan could appear in the children, but it may not be as strong. For example, Neji had better sight of chakra points in the body versus Hinata, if I'm correct. I think it varies from Hyuuga to Hyuuga. Regardless of bloodline, I think that their child would be less in terms of chakra, but maybe more physical versus NaruSaku child. As previously stated, taijutsu would probably be their strongpoint. There's also the environmental factor. I think Naruto and Hinata would probably be more gentle with their child, but not by much. Hinata just seems to me to be a kind mother, and she wouldn't push her children too hard. Not to say she would encourage themselves to be challenged, but you get the idea. Naruto would probably be more of a driving force in building up the child's strength.

Lastly, I look at SasuSaku...this one's both my favorite idea and least favorite. My favorite because I KNOW that Naruto would have some kind of role in the revived Uchiha clan, and it's my least because...well, it's not NaruSaku...anyways, I do believe that the Sharingan would be very hard to have appear in the child. Not to say it isn't possible, but its hard to say. I could see Sakura being the more involved parent in the child's life, but who's to say Sasuke wouldn't be a good father? I could see him training his child, and being actively involved in their life. I'm almost certain the child would be gifted in brainpower (look at the parents :sasuke: sakura.gif ) but they may not be as much of a physical fighter as the children of NaruSaku or NaruHina, which is fine, since Sasuke is a gifted user in Fire techniques, which I'm sure will be passed on to the child. Naruto would most likely be the equivalent of an uncle. He would probably stop over at the Uchiha compound when his day's over, and the kid(s) would glomp him when he steps foot in the house. Oh, I'm sure he'd also teach them a technique or two *cough*Sexy no Jutsu*cough* to get on Sasuke's nerves a little, and it would probably help the children in the long run.

So, to finish my super long post of doom here's what I think the order would be. I can't be for certain though since it all matters on the individual in the end.

1. NaruSaku
2. NaruHina
3. SasuSaku

I have my reasons, and in truth I think that these children would probably be pretty close in level of power to each other. Okay, I'm done with this large post. Anyone who got this far, I salute you!

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 11:18 PM

NaruSaku's child, definitely. As they get older, they will have more and more techniques and together they make a very strong couple. Also, the willpower of Naruto, and the intelligence of Sakura. narusakuct7.gif

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 03:55 AM

QUOTE (Yoshimoto Trigen @ Dec 11 2007, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Science + Manga = Shouldn't be together.

Let our imaginations run free! (As long as NaruSaku take the lead <;' )

Haha, ahh I like the way you think. wink.gif

QUOTE (narutokage @ Dec 12 2007, 03:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
See, I don't particularly disagree with you or anything of the sort. What you have done is taken the bloodlines of the characters and then tried the baby making formula tongue.gif. I am just going to give my POV and how I view things :thumbs:

First of all the main thing is we don't know how the genetics works in Narutoverse. A few assumption you took and I am not saying whether they are valid or not are:

1) Byakugan is dominant -> We don't know whether it is or not? It might be or might be not. We also don't know the hyuuga clan system and whether they allow marriage outside of their clan or not. Lets assume they allow the marriage outside of their clan and Byakugan is dominant. Then there should be no problem as the children would have the byakugan from a hyuuga and a non hyuuga. If the byakugan is recessive and an outside clan marriage is allowed, the chance of a child from that marriage having the byakugan decreases. Thus, it is a big assumption that byakugan is dominant. If it isn't then a NaruHina kid wouldn't necessarily have the same advantage than the one with byakugan.

2) Sharingan is a recessive trait -> As Sasuke said that even in the Uchiha clan it only appeared in the select few. So, even if Sasuke and Sakura get together it doesn't necessarily mean that the children would have the sharingan. If they do well and good but if they don't, then what??

This is where I believed that more than having bloodlines, its a nurturing environment and the parental guidance that counts.

I guess this is where the difference is, I am thinking in terms of different environment provided for the kids and who will come out better. In this case there is NaruHina where it is my personal belief that unless Hinata develops her confidence she will remain under Naruto's shadow and thus the child would be subjected to two extremes. One is a quiet mother and the loud father. If the child has the byakugan then of course he would follow the hyuuga way and if he loud and obnoxious like his father we don't know how that would be viewed. Then there are other things too e.g. if the child doesn't have byakugan he would most likely learn from naruto and at the academy etc. My main point is basic character and personality - don't see the best combination from this pairing. Its either going to be a Hinata extreme child or Naruto extreme. (as per my POV)

In Sasuke and Sakura's case, I don't know what to think. Looking at Sasuke's personality in part 2, I just can't see Sakura being as easygoing with him as she is with Naruto. If Sakura gets subdued and Sasuke asserts authority as was the case in Sasuke's house then the child would look up to Sasuke for the praise. And, I don't see Sasuke as easygoing. Also, what would have if lets say Sasuke has 2 children and one of them has the sharingan and the other doesn't. Who would be concentrate more on and all the other psychological stuff that goes on. At the moment its a tough cookie to follow. I can't even say how the children will develop because again my bias will come in big time.

For NaruSaku, I think would be the best environment for the children whether it is with a bloodline or without. I am sure if its with a bloodline, it going to be a new one so there is no clan stuff or anything to deal with and Sakura and Naruto already have no bloodline so a child without a bloodline would not feel out of place or anything. Even if the child is not overtly strong in the beginning, he will be able to develop properly because Sakura would be able to help him if he/she has less chakra, since she has already experienced it. If a child is more chakra oriented than Naruto would be able to help with his techniques. Even without all this, I think NaruSaku would be the best of parents because of the environment that they would have inside the house. It won't be overtly strict or lax. Sakura would be the disciplinarian and Naruto would spoil the kids a little tongue.gif
Both of them are stubborn people and don't like to lose and I think this would be one of the things the children would take with them because neither Naruto nor Sakura would act differently in front of each other. They are both free spirits and I am sure they would let their children find their own path as well.

If you are talking about initial strength of having bloodlines to not having bloodlines sure sharingan and byakugan sure that would make the kid/s strong but personally I think it takes more than just good genes to produce strong children. Personality, environment and a lot of other things come into perspective.

Yeah, I agree with this. From all other threads, I get the idea that the Byakugan is within every Hyuuga, but it also seems its because the parents were both Hyuugas. This would mean that there are no outside marriages. So if Naruto and Hinata were to have a kid, the kid might not have the Byakugan, so there goes the Jyuuken, which would weaken the child's taijutsu. I also agree that environment is what determines the strength of the child. For example, assuming that Sasuke doesn't change, he'll push his kid over the edge. If he has more than one child, he will probably focus solely, or at least 90% of his time on who he deems to be the stronger child. The other child will be left to feel like how Sasuke felt as a child.

QUOTE (marinka18 @ Dec 12 2007, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haha. You know, I once saw a mini-comic where Sasuke went to kill Itachi with an army of pink haired Uchihas and he died of laughter... literally. XD
Anyway I think Naruto and Sakura's child will be the most powerfull. I think most people pointed out why.

laugh.gif Pink haired Uchihas...everybody's seen it...why haven't I?

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 05:06 AM

Wow, there are some seriously thought out responses here. I hadn't even given notion to the possibility that the bloodlines could be recessive.

I truly and honestly believe that NaruSaku would get the better ENDING child. Not necessarily one born as the strongest, but one that would become such.

NaruHina
I've seen many arguments for the child of NaruHina over on the NF boards. Obviously the biggest advantage given would be the Byakugan. However, I am pretty confident that the Hyuuga clan inbreeds, considering that every Hyuuga that I have actually seen possesses the Byakugan. Meaning, if an outsider is brought into the clan via marriage, there should be AT LEAST one person there without the Byakugan. The Hyuuga clan also prides itself on being the best clan in Konoha, so even if they do allow outside marriages, the likelihood of someone being accepted is extremely low. Naruto, being as hated as he is for hosting the Kyuubi, would probably never be accepted.

Another thing brought up, is the idea that child of those two, will be able to learn Jyuuken. Which is fine, and Jyuuken is in fact, quite formidable in terms of the damage it can deal, and the accuracy with which it can strike.

Another big advantage the child would gain, is the enormous amount of chakra that Naruto has. I'm quite sure the advantages Naruto has gained from the Kyuubi, would be passed down genetically as his chakra and the Kyuubi's chakra intermingle. To that degree, it is quite possible his offspring would host dozens of times more chakra than a child born from someone else. However, it's also possible that the negatives (losing control of emotions = berserk) would be passed down as well. A gene for predisposed bloodlust I guess. Also, Naruto is quite intelligent when it comes to battles, so if that gets passed down, it's just adding to the child's advantages. It will be no Shikamaru, but it will be a child that could easily hold it's own.

Naruto also adds on a creative aspect to the child, if the child gains his personality. Nothing more creative than a former prankster. Unfortunately, adding on the shy and quiet personality of Hinata hinders the child. Especially if it gains the lack of confidence that Hinata seems to be trying to trump as of now.

Raising: In terms of being raised, I agree with narutokage in that the child will probably end up as an extreme of either Naruto or Hinata. Hinata lacks the confidence as of now to really discipline her children, especially if Naruto gives them the OK to do something.

SasuSaku
The Sharingan is this child's greatest asset, but if the recessive trait mentioned earlier holds barring, then this child could also be ordinary. However, I'll look at it from the idea that the child is indeed born with the gene for the Sharingan. A tool accredited by many as "cheap". It can cast genjutsu, memorize ninjutsu, predict movements, and possibly even more things. Put simply, the Sharingan can almost do it all. This essentially gives the child insane advantages. Speeding up training being a large part of it. On top of that, predicting movements in battle puts you at an automatic advantage over your enemy.

Being a descendant of the Uchiha clan, it's safe to assume the child is already going to have a natural affinity to Katon (Fire), and a large possibility that the child will also have a second elemental affinity. This is also an advantage, as two is obviously better than one. To help with matters, Katon is quite a powerful affinity to have, as its offensive capabilities are quite high. Couple this with the chance that the child could have a second affinity to Doton (Earth), and the child can now take out the elemental weakness to his more offensive jutsus, while having a large amount of very capable defensive jutsus (opinion, but so far Doton shows the greatest defensive capabilities to me).

Then we bring in the Sakura side to it. Sakura is a genius, and while it isn't proven that intelligence is hereditary, you can tend to find that it does seem to "run in the family". So a child of a genius clan, then possibly garnering genius intelligence from the mother. Quite a force to be reckoned with. Add in the fact that she could teach the child medical ninjtusu and chakra enhanced battling, and this kid is going to be creating new landscapes fast.

Also, Sasuke is a definite genius when it comes to battles. This puts the child's intelligence even higher, and makes for quick thinking while in combat.

In terms of personality, this child too, will probably be an extreme of either Sasuke or Sakura, purely because their personalities do not mix at all. The only personality I know the child would have for sure, is seriousness, as both parents have that trait.

Raising: Sasuke seems almost too indifferent to me, to be any good with raising his children. The way I've always seen him towards his children, is in a similar way to how his father was to him. There, mildly supporting, but never really talking or being there for his child. However, if SasuSaku were to happen, there's a strong chance this part of Sasuke would go away, as I can't imagine it happening if he's still "cold to the touch". Sakura, to me, seems that she would end up in much the same way as Shikamaru's mother. A bossy, demanding, and disciplining woman. However, Sakura also has a kind and gentle side of her, and that would help tremendously in the upbringing of the child. Especially since a child with no love, often ends up bad (excluding Naruto...he's just...different).

NaruSaku
Now, the biggest argument against this child is always that it has no Bloodline such as the Byakugan or the Sharingan. However, I don't exactly agree with that. It is quite possible that Naruto will pass down traits of the Kyuubi as a Bloodline to his children. Possible enough that I honestly believe he would. Now, considering that the Sharingan is apparently recessive, and there's no proof that the Byakugan is or is not dominant, this child could ACTUALLY be born as the strongest of the big three.

Again, we bring in the idea of the child being incredibly intelligent from Sakura's side. Couple that with Naruto's battle smarts, and his creativity, and we really have another Minato being born here. A child that can not only come up with interesting and creative ideas, but also the intelligence to take them all the way, in terms of creating jutsus.

I've already mentioned the Kyuubi genetics earlier:
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Another big advantage the child would gain, is the enormous amount of chakra that Naruto has. I'm quite sure the advantages Naruto has gained from the Kyuubi, would be passed down genetically as his chakra and the Kyuubi's chakra intermingle. To that degree, it is quite possible his offspring would host dozens of times more chakra than a child born from someone else. However, it's also possible that the negatives (losing control of emotions = berserk) would be passed down as well. A gene for predisposed bloodlust I guess.


Also, I bring up the fact that Sakura can teach her child medical ninjutsu/chakra enhanced strength again.

Personality wise, this is the only child I can't see going to either extreme. One reason being that both Naruto and Sakura have many similar traits. The other dealing with the child's raising, and will be mentioned next.

Raising: Naruto is going to smother his child with love, and spoil the sweet hell out of it. In the case of NaruHina, this is a bad thing, because the child grows up selfish, with nobody to correct him, unless Hinata changes. However, it's a great thing in the case of NaruSaku. Naruto gives the child plenty of love, letting him/her grow up knowing it, all the while Sakura will definitely stand up to Naruto, and will not only discipline the child, but also keep Naruto in line in terms of how much he spoils it. This creates a balancing effect. Love is given, but so is discipline, so that the doesn't child grows up pompous and selfish.

Against One Another
These text-based simulation fights are completely subjective to how I believe things can or can not be trumped. In the end though, I've just made them for fun.

NaruSaku > NaruHina; This is based on if the NaruHina child had the Byakugan and had learned Jyuuken as I mentioned earlier. I see the NaruSaku child beating the NaruHina child because, while the Byakugan can see virtually 360 degree around you, it's a useless bloodline to have against being outwitted, considering one side has the Sakura portion. Close-range fighting could be the downfall to the NaruSaku child though.

NaruSaku > NaruHina; This is based on the NaruHina child not having the Byakugan. Without the Byakugan, I honestly do not see a contest, especially if the NaruSaku child does take in his creative and genius aspects of jutsu creation.

NaruSaku > SasuSaku; This one is based on the SasuSaku child having no Sharingan. While the child itself has many advantages still, losing the Sharingan really puts a hurt on the kid. While strategically, both are probably at a standstill (SasuSaku may have an advantage here), I can't see the SasuSaku child trumping the NaruSaku child's jutsu ingenuity. On top of that, gaining the near limitless stamina makes this battle's outcome one-sided as the fight progresses longer.

SasuSaku > NaruSaku; This one is based on the SasuSaku child having the Sharingan. Now the Sharingan boosts the child's power exponentially. It is a truly terrifying bloodline limit to have. It could null out any jutsus the NaruSaku child may have. The reason I don't have the SasuSaku child being completely over, is because the near limitless stamina plays a very large role, and if the SasuSaku child can't finish it in a decent amount of time, there's a good chance the child will lose.

NaruHina > SasuSaku; The NaruHina child has Byakugan and SasuSaku has no Sharingan. Again, being outwit would be the demise of the NaruHina child. Unfortunately for the SasuSaku child, the NaruHina child will also have near limitless stamina, and that would play a HUGE factor in this fight, especially coupling it with the Jyuuken moves.

SasuSaku > NaruHina; This is based upon the SasuSaku child having the Sharingan, and the NaruHina child having the Byakugan. The Sharingan would add too much power to the SasuSaku child. The near-limitless stamina is a slight saving grace for the NaruHina child, but the lack of Sakura intelligence makes this one kick the bucket.

SasuSaku > NaruHina; This is based on the NaruHina child having no Byakugan. There's no contest. Without the Byakugan, the child lost all insight into attacks, and will probably be trashed.

Ending to this. Well as you can see, NaruSaku (to me) wins it out in 3/4 of it's fights. Now, you may see that I said the SasuSaku child with the Sharingan would probably beat the NaruSaku child. This is correct, I do believe that. However, there is something to note here. The NaruSaku child remained the same for each simulation. The SasuSaku and NaruHina children did not, as they could, or could not have their respective bloodlines. That is why I rate NaruSaku's child as being the stronger in the end.

I know this is really long, but I love topics like this, and thought I'd share all my thoughts. happy.gif


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Posted 15 December 2007 - 09:02 AM

I wonder is the kyuubi's chakra really be passed down? I mean if there is only one nine-tailed fox soul, and naruto has access to it, would it really be passed down? I don't disagree it's just interesting and maybe I am reading too much into it but I am wondering if intermingling would actually work Genetics wise. happy.gif

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 04:46 PM

Hey I'm a fan so if I want to be a nerd and add (psuedo)science in the mix with my fannish-ness then blah to all the haters!

NaruSaku's kid would be voted Most Likely to Succeed or The Next Hokage. I think their kid would end up remarkably well-balanced and well-adjusted. Just because I think that in terms of natural strengths, they'd be the weakest doesn't mean that they won't be strong. It's just that they'd have to work a little harder.

I can't buy Kyuubi affecting any child of Naruto's. The only way it would make sense is if Naruto was the one having the pregnancy, and let's just keep Mpreg out of this...

I'd talk about the subject more, but I think talking about chakra-enhanced sex is pushing the fannish card a little far, lol.
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Posted 15 December 2007 - 05:36 PM

Hrm. Naruto and Sakura would have the weakest child, I think. (although I am DEFINITELY NOT a SasuSaku/NaruHina supporter!!!)

Naruto and Sakura's child- good chakra control, will probably have the benefit of training under the Hokage and the best Medical Nin in the world, may have large chakra supply from Naruto

Naruto and Hinata's child- Byakugan, have the benefit of being under the Hokage and the Hyuugas (like Neji), chakra supply?

Sasuke and Sakura's child- Sharingan....And, since it is oh-so powerful that is all I am going to say

1. SasuSaku
2. NaruHina
3. NaruSaku < -- but their child will work his/her way to the top

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 06:10 PM

Well, since the Byakugan and Sharingan are recessive, then Jyuuken wouldn't work and copying other Jutsu wouldn't either. That means NaruHina and SasuSaku would be let-downs, since they in-breed and (proposidly) use a technique to stop deformities.

Thus, unless SOMEHOW Sakura or Hinata are related to Naruto or Sasuke, then no Sharingan or Byakugan, thus putting a severe dent in the Sharingan line, and the Byakugan heritage.

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 07:14 PM

How do you know if it's recessive or not?

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 07:22 PM

QUOTE (Shana @ Dec 15 2007, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How do you know if it's recessive or not?


I don't know about Byukagen because everyone I've seen has had it, so I'm pretty sure they had a lot of inbreeding. Anti-disorder jutsu ftw!


But Sharingan is different because not everyone can be able to get it. Only a certain few are able to get the trait. I guess that because they married outside of the family and the gene started to get diluted.

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 08:58 PM

I agree with narutokage.

We have no idea whether Byakugan is dominant or recessive. Odds are the former, but looks at what we do know: Every Hyuuga shown has it. And that's it. I thought one of the reasons that indbreeding was frowned on was its high tendency to bring out negative recessive traits (I know there are many social reasons as well), but honestly we don't know they behave that way. I think it's likely given what we know about the Hyuuga, but there is no definitive proof of it. As some NaruHina fans have argued, we have never seen their mother. If she was from outside the clan, then I would thing marrying outside the clan a second time would reduce the odds of the child carrying it.

Really, there are a lot of unknowns with this. I believe they operate mostly like a traditional Japanese clan, and I think the trait dominant, but it's all circumstantial.

On the Sharingan, I'm not really sure. I knew most Uchiha didn't have, but I'm not sure if that has more to do with the odds of possessing the trait or with that most just don't have the ability, are placed with the right circumstances, and so on necessary to activate the trait. It's theoretically possible that had he lived a specific type of life, that Sasuke would never have activated it.

The only way to make anything close to a accurate comparison is too assume the best case scenario for each, both genetics and environment, but realistically, what are the odds of the child possessing all that.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 08:33 PM

Well how do you define 'strength'?

Kakashi is probably the best pure warrior of the leaf but even he himself has said he lacks Naruto's large amounts of natural chakra and Naruto has surpassed him.

Physically Tsunade probably isn't that strong but her ability to control and manipulate her chakra grant her great physical strength.

Shikamaru has a somewhat weak bloodline abliity but he makes the most of it and thanks in part to his astounding intellect (which exceeds Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and Hinata's likely), has allowed him battle and defeat foes that are far stronger then he is.

Very few things can be said with certainty here I feel..

-Naruto family's bloodline ability, if he has one, is likely their absurdly large chakra reserves. That would be passed along to any and all children he has.

-Sasuke and Hinata's familes both posses a bloodline ability that while we don't know if its recessive or dominant would require lots of intensive training to use effectively and master and requires a good amount of chakra.

-Sakura it appears, is a first generation ninja, meaning she's the first in her family to become a leaf village ninja. As such, it doesn't appear she has any real pluses or negatives to pass along to her children.




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