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[TouKen4Life3g]

At least he confirms Naruto's pov at the very end, no romance for Hinata.

What do you mean?

[Inferno180]

Well with Naruto's birthday, that means we know when the battle took place, October 9th.

 

Remember Naruto was born in October not August.

[rocci]

Base on spoiler so far it seem that yin kurama is more wiser than the yang, this make me believe the fandom will question why kishi make naruto gain the yang which more violent?

[soraandven]

not kushina again so sad now im remembering rtn come to think of it the manga has felt like rtn recently

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Base on spoiler so far it seem that yin kurama is more wiser than the yang, this make me believe the fandom will question why kishi make naruto gain the yang which more violent?

Worse is why the hokage hide from the villagers that Naruto's father was the 4th hokage then he would nto suffer during his childhood being much more like Sakura on RTN, it's said that it was for Naruto's protection but the most dangerous guys knew who his parents were.

Kakashi knew it, Itachi knew about it, Jiraiyra, Shikamaru's father, Orochimaru, Sasuke's father (His wife), Danzou(who was after the kyuubi, Tsunade and so on...

 

It get even ridiculous when you think about it, didnt had any necessity for Naruto to suffer on his childhood.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 August 2013 - 12:47 AM.

[sushi.]

Worse is why the hokage hide from the villagers that Naruto's father was the 4th hokage then he would nto suffer during his childhood being much more like Sakura on RTN, it's said that it was for Naruto's protection but the most dangerous guys knew who his parents were.

Kakashi knew it, Itachi knew about it, Jiraiyra, Shikamaru's father, Orochimaru, Sasuke's father (His wife), Danzou(who was after the kyuubi, Tsunade and so on...

 

It get even ridiculous when you think about it, didnt had any necessity for Naruto to suffer on his childhood.

Not to mention Minato and Kushina, at least Minato must have had some relatives.

[Tsubaki]

Worse is why the hokage hide from the villagers that Naruto's father was the 4th hokage then he would nto suffer during his childhood being much more like Sakura on RTN, it's said that it was for Naruto's protection but the most dangerous guys knew who his parents were.

Kakashi knew it, Itachi knew about it, Jiraiyra, Shikamaru's father, Orochimaru, Sasuke's father (His wife), Danzou(who was after the kyuubi, Tsunade and so on...

 

It get even ridiculous when you think about it, didnt had any necessity for Naruto to suffer on his childhood.

 

Actually, it was necessary. The other villages knew that the fourth and his wife had died to save the village from the Kyuubi and sealed it on someone, but that "someone" just the oldest and only a few other people knew. If the other villages knew the son of the Hokage was alive and had been born on the day his parents died and kyuubi was sealed there was a chance that they could make the connection between these facts ... the third just didn't want to risk...

[catsi563]

there is also the notion of letting Naruto grow to become his own person, not the Son of the Hero. When hes the son of the hero, the son of the 4th hokage that always colors his upbringing and the expectations put upon him.

 

Without that he grew up with no expectations from anyone, and thusly he continued to constantly surprise and shock people with how amazing he was.

[redragon88]

Not to mention Minato and Kushina, at least Minato must have had some relatives.

 

They surely died for some reasons before Naruto was born. Could be Minato was an orphan or maybe his parents were also shinobi but died in a mission. But I don't think that's something Kishi cares to explore. He would rather have us focus on the characters he presents and not think about the ones he doesn't.

 

After all, we never saw who Konohamaru's parents were, the parents of Lee or Tenten, or the mothers of Neji, Hinata, etc. We know Kakashi's dad committed suicide, but we never get reference to the mom. And if it wasn't for Road to Ninja we probably never would've found out anything about Sakura's parents.

Edited by redragon88, 17 August 2013 - 02:27 AM.

[Strangelove]

 

They surely died for some reasons before Naruto was born. Could be Minato was an orphan or maybe his parents were also shinobi but died in a mission. But I don't think that's something Kishi cares to explore. He would rather have us focus on the characters he presents and not think about the ones he doesn't.

 

After all, we never saw who Konohamaru's parents were, the parents of Lee or Tenten, or the mothers of Neji, Hinata, etc. We know Kakashi's dad committed suicide, but we never get reference to the mom. And if it wasn't for Road to Ninja we probably never would've found out anything about Sakura's parents.

 

I don't think Minato was an orphan. His parents may have died latter in his life, maybe before he and Kushina started living together.

[soraandven]

now we will see kurama's full power also its gonna be nice to see sasuke jealous again he's only seen naruto in kyubbi mode i wonder how he will react when he see's bijuu mode

[Codus N]

I misunderstood because 4life's post was about Obito targeting Sakura.

 

But if he targets Sakura for being a medic, which is not unlikely because we all know Obito is a master strategist - it might be what triggers a Rin parallel. Which might again make Obito bring her up.

 

Bolded; Me too..me too. Since it's bound to happen, it doesn't hurt making predictions, but it's hard to imagine the moment to be natural. But I'm not a writer, hopefully Kishi can pull it off somehow.

 

Ah, I understand. No biggie. But from a strategic standpoint killing off the medic is one of the basic strategies in battle. Except for one thing. Obito now possesses control over natural energy (since Juubi is the culmination of Natural Energy), which means that he should possess the same sensory abilities SM grants. In other words, he would be sensing the 5 Kages coming. Even if he killed off Sakura, Tsunade would just take her place and she's still leagues above her. Not to mention Shizune herself. So that's a pretty pointless move.    

 

 

 

Yeah, this war in general seems like something out of a fanfiction. There's been some positives, but I am in agreement with the notion of Kishimoto seemingly rushing, just to move the story along to wherever he ultimately has it ending up.

 

Yup, pretty much what I think. It's sad that one of my favourite mangas has been degenerated into something sort of a B-grade fanfic. Hell, even Minato's seal of approval isn't enough to make me put this manga back on my top list of mangas. The only reason I've been reading it so far is because Bleach is on hiatus so, I've got nothing to pass my spare time on Wednesdays *mutters*.

 

But that said, this chapter definitely had a very interesting tidbit to read.  

Anyway,  Obito is more like testing Naruto, he tested Naruto first with his friends, he then killed off Neji and it didnt work, second he started attacking Naruto's dream which was to become hokage, showing to him that all the kages are trash, third he start taunting Naruto why after living a miserable life he still wants to save the world, his parents are dead, it's not working too, the last would targeting Naruto's heart, so it's clearly going to be Sakura next, but i dont know how he will get to that, i think it will be rushed dont see reason why she would leave her position but it's kinda obvious she will have to play damsel in distress.

 

Bolded: That's precisely the problem at the moment. Where is the connection that connects ObiRin and NaruSaku that they're aware of? If Obito does target Sakura, what will be the trigger? those are the questions needed to be answered before we get into the connection between those pairings. Unless these questions are answered, I don't think we'll have a satisfying resolution the pairs.

[Dkey]

Worse is why the hokage hide from the villagers that Naruto's father was the 4th hokage then he would nto suffer during his childhood being much more like Sakura on RTN, it's said that it was for Naruto's protection but the most dangerous guys knew who his parents were.

Kakashi knew it, Itachi knew about it, Jiraiyra, Shikamaru's father, Orochimaru, Sasuke's father (His wife), Danzou(who was after the kyuubi, Tsunade and so on...

 

It get even ridiculous when you think about it, didnt had any necessity for Naruto to suffer on his childhood.

 

The secrecy always concerned the kyuubi.

The secrecy concerning his parents was a bit to much but the secrecy was meant so that Naruto could make friends because all of the villagers knew he was the kyuubi container. Maybe the villagers didn't care that they were the 4th son, maybe they were relieved the 4th decided to use his son and not someone else.

[Hanabi]

Worse is why the hokage hide from the villagers that Naruto's father was the 4th hokage then he would nto suffer during his childhood being much more like Sakura on RTN, it's said that it was for Naruto's protection but the most dangerous guys knew who his parents were.

Kakashi knew it, Itachi knew about it, Jiraiyra, Shikamaru's father, Orochimaru, Sasuke's father (His wife), Danzou(who was after the kyuubi, Tsunade and so on...

 

It get even ridiculous when you think about it, didnt had any necessity for Naruto to suffer on his childhood.

 

Baby Naruto might end up kidnapped like kid hinata from kumogakure shinobis. But I don't think Orochimaru, Sasuke's father (His wife), Danzou(who was after the kyuubi, Tsunade knew about him being the fourth's son, 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

there is also the notion of letting Naruto grow to become his own person, not the Son of the Hero. When hes the son of the hero, the son of the 4th hokage that always colors his upbringing and the expectations put upon him.

 

Without that he grew up with no expectations from anyone, and thusly he continued to constantly surprise and shock people with how amazing he was.

But later it's revealed that he is the son of the 4th kage, so all this impact turned into dust, the same things happened with the "loser and genius", Naruto was a loser, then he worked hard until it was revealed he was an uzumaki and he get where he's at because of his heritage.

The rasengan was a jutsu made by the fourth to help him master the bijuu bomb, the prophecy kid the parallels and etc... removed the charm.

Naruto become more like a destined person, he's destined to be kage, to save the world and even ending up with Sakura(there's an huge development but the paralles and MinaKushi put the "destiny" thing on the recipe).

He always fought off to change destiny but looks like that it was his destiny after all.

 

 

 

Bolded: That's precisely the problem at the moment. Where is the connection that connects ObiRin and NaruSaku that they're aware of? If Obito does target Sakura, what will be the trigger? those are the questions needed to be answered before we get into the connection between those pairings. Unless these questions are answered, I don't think we'll have a satisfying resolution the pairs.

 

That's why i think she will get into the middle, or just show a flashback but srsly it will be fun to read.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 August 2013 - 10:40 AM.

[T XD]

Usually I don't see spoilers until the chapter is out with full translation, but my curiosity brought me here with what I have read in the debate thread.

 

Kishi mentioning Naruto's birthday in this chapter means that there might be something or things happening and given to Naruto cause it's his birthday. Kishi made the deal to mention it and made some conversation about it.

 

645's rumor is giving its vibes here XD

Edited by T XD, 17 August 2013 - 11:42 AM.

[Dkey]

Usually I don't see spoilers until the chapter is out with full translation, but my curiosity brought me here with what I have read in the debate thread.
 
Kishi mentioning Naruto's birthday in this chapter means that there might be something or things happening and given to Naruto cause it's his birthday. Kishi made the deal to mention it and made some conversation about it.
 
645's rumor is giving its vibes here XD

I know and I'm curious how Naruto's birthday will be handled. Unfortunately I think we will have to wait awhile. 1 2 volumes. Maybe it's at night and in a few moments it will be tomorrow eitherwise why would tobi bring it up

[T XD]

I know and I'm curious how Naruto's birthday will be handled. Unfortunately I think we will have to wait awhile. 1 2 volumes. Maybe it's at night and in a few moments it will be tomorrow eitherwise why would tobi bring it up

Yup, seems it's night. Till tomorrow comes, it will be after a chapter or two.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think the idea of birthday will make his moment of ending the war phenomenon. What's crazy is that the parallel hasn't been played yet, so this is a huge advantage for NS. Remember how I said that NH played the trump card too early (615)? Well, now I am sure that it was too early and now, no bashing, they're screwed. The best part is about Naruto, so what he earns is what he wants (ex. Sakura hugging Naruto in Pain Arc).

[Codus N]

Usually I don't see spoilers until the chapter is out with full translation, but my curiosity brought me here with what I have read in the debate thread.

 

Kishi mentioning Naruto's birthday in this chapter means that there might be something or things happening and given to Naruto cause it's his birthday. Kishi made the deal to mention it and made some conversation about it.

 

645's rumor is giving its vibes here XD

Mind giving me a heads up on that rumor? I haven't been around for a while, so can somebody fill me in?