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[六道仙人]

I think that Sakura will have a role when everyone is gathered here: I'm talking about Tsuande and Kakashi.

Kakashi will tell his story with Obito to Naruto and even Minato will add some details in this story.

[Akashi]

I think that Sakura will have a role when everyone is gathered here: I'm talking about Tsuande and Kakashi.

Kakashi will tell his story with Obito to Naruto and even Minato will add some details in this story.

I don't think that now is the right time to preach / talk about past. Alliance has 2 enormously powerful enemies to defeat. 

[六道仙人]

I don't think that now is the right time to preach / talk about past. Alliance has 2 enormously powerful enemies to defeat. 

 

I know but that will happens inevitably at a certain point.. It's already been foreshadowed when Naruto said to Kakashi "You'll tell me your story later!!".

[Inferno180]

I agree with Atheck about Sakura, but I think we shouldn't come to conclusions too quickly or be too worried about it. It's no biggie. : p
 
Right now it looks like she only gets paneltime when she has a purpose, but I think it's alright..for now. This chapter was really important and only important things happened, characters with direct connection to Obito/the Uchiha.

Agree. ^^

Well yes this is true, she got a lot of time and it's nice she had a few great chapters this volume, however there are still other matters to take care of. Sakura can still fight, nothing is saying she cannot, I mean she released the seal 5 chapters ago, that is still very recent. We still have no idea if sakura is just fighting in an initial form of the white strength seal and if she can go stronger than tsunade. Not to mention she may even get to fight alongside tsunade which should be neat if it occurs. She does have an important role later on when sasukes motives come to light and how this impacts her and naruto will cause some more development on there. Also she obviously has the role in the end when naruto and Sasuke fight and we see exactly what she does. But there is still time in the fight for her to help, I mean if the 5 current Kages come to help, if tsunade can get in the scuffle on her own then sakura can help too. One thing I need to say though, the ending of this chapter left me confused, obito is the ten tails jinchurki but what exactly happened? Is he human sized? Did obito become gigantic? Or did he somehow use the rinne tensei in a new way like putting his soul in the ten tails? Someone care to clarify this?

[T XD]

That's precisely the issue though. Sakura is intended to represent the characteristics of a heroine yet ever since chapter 634 her involvement in the conflict has been downgraded to supplemental duties as her teammates continue to act as the head of the Alliance's offensive force.

It's their role. We don't know what Sakura might do in the upcoming chapters. The battle is somewhat far from over. For now, she engaged in battle showing the brute strength of her seal and the healing power. Do we know what she might do and what she got up in her sleeves regarding her seal in the upcoming chapters ?

It doesn't stop here for her. What Naruto and Sasuke done was their role in this fight when she was doing the healing. Not to mention that it needs to be shown Naruto and Sasuke doing a combo attack.

 

You can bring into discussion the myriad of qualities that a hero comprises of but what Sakura is doing at the moment, vacantly gazing into the masses of Jubi replicas whilst remaining completely inanimate, is not what would be commonly associated with a hero. Hell, the fact that there are numerous groups of inferior shinobi fighting in her stead isn't practical even from a medic's perspective. Would it not be more logical to become involved in the fighting if your aptitude for incapacitating large numbers of the enemy at once minimized the need for healing these weaker soldiers? Nevermind the fact that Katsuyu can restore any injuries on her own.

The question you asked here, you have a point. But, don't you think that maybe Kishi is holding her back because he's saving her for later ? Maybe she's saving energy or something that this will be mentioned afterwards ? I think that Kishi wanted to show us her healing ability part from the seal to let us know how much it's great and to put the panels how it's done she using it. Plus, I return to also that Kishi picked to show her more of what she's going to do for later.
  

Yes, it's only because Sakura's status as a protagonist is inferior comparative to her teammates' that she has been put to the side for the time being. Despite the fact that throughout almost all of P2 following the Sasuke and Sai arc (her effectiveness in that mission is debatable as well)her role has been minor. The situation calls for her relegation to the background once again because Kishi is incapable of providing her with an active role for more than one just scene to help distinguish her from the likes of Ino, Kiba, or the other side-characters.

Even I won't contest to the notion that Sakura hasn't been truly acting like a heroine since the Sasori fight.

Okay, here, it's your view on the matter. But, I want to say to the inferior part as a protagonist regarding Sakura that each main character has to show what is planned for them as in character to show. For example, Sasuke has to show his rivalry, how he's against Naruto in the manga etc.
 
 

That is exactly what Sakura is doing right now. She has literally not taken a single step or carried out any actions at all since restoring the fodder to full strength. Having a brief conversation with Sai relating to the nature of Sasuke's actions doesn't constitute as effective or heroic behaviour.

Like I said before, it doesn't stop here, and she doesn't have a place after her talk to Sai that things have turned to concentrate on Obito and his matter.
 

No offense, but your assurances hold little value if Kishi doesn't offer any indication that there is more intended for Sakura aside from medical duties. Sakura is not acting like a protagonist at the moment. In fact, she isn't doing anything at all. There is nothing to suggest that her role will be expanded upon anytime soon. Especially with Naruto, Sasuke, Minato, and the Hokage clones being available to fight against Tobi; all of whom are much more powerful than Sakura.

You're right. My assurance isn't enough. I'm thinking and talking logically what she would do in the upcoming chapters. Neither do I think that her other role for the turning event will be anytime soon.

If those characters are now in move like how Kishi putted them to do now, it doesn't mean that we won't see her at all. I'm not saying that her next move will be the next chapter or after the two next ones also. I'm saying that maybe we'll see her having a thought, the other Kages will arrive to the battlefield and maybe an interaction with Tsunade or many other possibilities like these ones. Then her other role will come when everything as planned went through.

I know that there's craving for Sakura big moments and solo ones too, but everything needs to take its place in the right moment.

Edited by T XD, 03 July 2013 - 12:47 PM.

[Akashi]

 

I know but that will happens inevitably at a certain point.. It's already been foreshadowed when Naruto said to Kakashi "You'll tell me your story later!!".

Well that's oblivious.. but now is not the time.

 

Plus I can't find a reason for Sakura not to fight atm. She's confirmed to be one of the three neo-sannin, 3rd strongest rookie, despite being one of the best medics. She waited so long to fight side by side with her teammates, but what do we see? She's just watching as the edo!kages, Sasuke and Naruto try to defeat Madara and Obito. I said this before, her presence as a medic is not required: Katsuyu and other med ninjas can handle the wounded shinobi. She would be of much greater use if she was near Naruto, in order to heal him if he gets a fatal wound..

Edited by Tauriel, 03 July 2013 - 12:53 PM.

[T XD]

I know that, but he is Sasuke's fellow


Edit: Ohh Madara just stands there and watches, without giving who knows what, on how his plan came down to nothing. Something tells me he didn't had a plan, like people said, he is just doing this for s*** and giggles. He doesn't care about power, or order. He doesn't seem to have a set goal...he just wants to watch the world burn.

Like Sasuke doesn't have a set goal, he just wants to destroy the world and recreate a new one

I think Madara has a spare plan on his own. Obito has one also... Why not Madara ? Knowing the guy, I think he'll try to counter Obito's.

[Inferno180]

Okay I got Answer, obito is normal size, he pulled the ten tails in him and gained some physical features, he looks a bit lizard like, also noticed his hair turned white due to the rinne tensei like good old Nagato. So actually since its a human sized fight, this means anyone on team 7, the edo hokage, and current hokage can participate and help fight obito now. Just wonder how Kakashi will handle this, is obito going to get Kakashi first?

[六道仙人]

Well that's oblivious.. but now is not the time.

 

Plus I can't find a reason for Sakura not to fight atm. She's confirmed to be one of the three neo-sannin, 3rd strongest rookie, despite being one of the best medics. She waited so long to fight side by side with her teammates, but what do we see? She's just watching as the edo!kages, Sasuke and Naruto try to defeat Madara and Obito. I said this before, her presence as a medic is not required: Katsuyu and other med ninjas can handle the wounded shinobi. She would be of much greater use if she was near Naruto, in order to heal him if he gets a fatal wound..

 

I never told that he won' fight anyway... btw, I'm also sure that Sakura will join Naruto at a some point...

[ramenanmitsu]

I thought Sakura was going to be relegated to fodder healing for another several chapters but this chapter changed my mind. 

 

The parallels are going to be brought up and she will most likely appear soon. Kishi is constantly shoving down on our throats how Obito is similar to Naruto with his determination and his feelings for Rin. Those repeated Obito -> Rin panels are there for a reason. Sakura's lack of appearance now is the calm before the storm. And when Kishi shows a parallel, there is always a verbal confirmation.

 

Tsunade=Sakura by Chiyo, Jiraiya

Kushina=Sakura by Minato

Rin=Sakura by?? 

 

Jiraiya=Naruto by Nagato 

Minato=Naruto by Kakashi, Jiraiya

Obito=Naruto by Kakashi, Obito

 

Orochimaru=Sasuke by Jiraiya

Kakashi=Sasuke by Gai

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 03 July 2013 - 01:03 PM.

[六道仙人]

I thought Sakura was going to be relegated to fodder healing for another several chapters but this chapter changed my mind. 

 

The parallels are going to be brought up and she will most likely appear soon. Kishi is constantly shoving down on our throats how Obito is similar to Naruto with his determination and his feelings for Rin. Those repeated Obito -> Rin panels are there for a reason. Sakura's lack of appearance now is the calm before the storm. And when Kishi shows a parallel, there is always a verbal confirmation.

 

Tsunade=Sakura by Chiyo, Jiraiya

Kushina=Sakura by Minato

Rin=Sakura by?? 

 

Jiraiya=Naruto by Nagato 

Minato=Naruto by Kakashi, Jiraiya

Obito=Naruto by Kakashi, Obito

 

Orochimaru=Sasuke by Jiraiya

Kakashi=Sasuke by Gai

Very true, nice observations! I also think that a parallel between Rin and Sakura will be inevitabile. Maybe Obito will notice how the triangle in T7 is pretty similar to that's between him, Kakashi and Rin once...

[James S Cassidy]

Wow, we get another interesting chapter and...I can't do the podcast.

Oh well. I didn't see that coming. Sad for Minato to find out this way that Obito caused the death of him and his wife. You know, I knew Obito was just a tool to Madara. I knew he really didn't want Obito to gain his wishes. He lied to himas I expected. Funny how Obito seemed to be turning into a new Zetsu of some sort.

Also, you can see how Sasuke doesn't really listen to Narutp and just goes off doing whatever. Forshadowing for future events? I guess Sakura's hunch is right on the money.

See? Minato, with his Thunder God, is faster than anyone ont he field. If Naruto really was faster than that, he would have reached Obito sooner. I have been discussing with others on whether or not Naruto can also teleport, but seeing this chapter I am going to safely assume that the "Yellow flash" that Killer Bee and Tsunade mentioned are not the same. So why not have Naruto learn the technique?

What did Hashiramam mean by "Which one is it?" The translations in this one are bit wonky. Fellow of the traitor? (aka, Fellow Traitor?) Again, another forshadow? Kishi is being really straight forward now isn't he? I am glad because we have been thrown back and forth for a while.

Now Obito has become the ten-tails Jinchuuriki. Hmm, I guess if it was a way to save his own life and betray Madara at the end, I guess it works. You know with Obito constantly thinking about Rin, I have a funny feeling he is going to be redeemed somehow. There can not be a reason why he keeps thinking about her in these chapters. I know he loves her, but we already established this so many times. I am wondering if he will bring Rin back to life.

[Inferno180]

I thought Sakura was going to be relegated to fodder healing for another several chapters but this chapter changed my mind. 

 

The parallels are going to be brought up and she will most likely appear soon. Kishi is constantly shoving down on our throats how Obito is similar to Naruto with his determination and his feelings for Rin. Those repeated Obito -> Rin panels are there for a reason. Sakura's lack of appearance now is the calm before the storm. And when Kishi shows a parallel, there is always a verbal confirmation.

 

Tsunade=Sakura by Chiyo, Jiraiya

Kushina=Sakura by Minato

Rin=Sakura by?? 

 

Jiraiya=Naruto by Nagato 

Minato=Naruto by Kakashi, Jiraiya

Obito=Naruto by Kakashi, Obito

 

Orochimaru=Sasuke by Jiraiya

Kakashi=Sasuke by Gai

 

Kakashi himself also stated that, that Sasuke is like him. Around the chunin exams I believe it was somewhere.

[PhenixElite]

I would like to know how sakuras absence for 2 chapters can be called "lack of apperance". We can even say that shes missing for 1 chapter since the last one was only focusing on kakashi and obito. That compalining really doesnt make much sense there.

[Inferno180]

All I know is, next Naruto fighting game or even if just DLC for Storm 3, I already have 2 new characters I would love to see, White strength seal Sakura and Obito as the ten tails Jinchruki.

[arian_rad]

I'm really interested in seeing how the parallel between Sakura and Rin would be brought up. I dont know what kishi plans to do with this and how he wants to put it in the manga. At this point it is blatantly obvious that he will bring it up but what will cause that? You guys have any ideas?

[T XD]

I'm really interested in seeing how the parallel between Sakura and Rin would be brought up. I dont know what kishi plans to do with this and how he wants to put it in the manga. At this point it is blatantly obvious that he will bring it up but what will cause that? You guys have any ideas?

My thought is that it will be from Obito.

 

Possible reasons will be if she talk to him, if she says something and he hears her, seeing her healing and saying something at the same time, or an interaction with Naruto either healing him or saying something to him or both.

 

It could be from Kakashi also, but I think it's more to Obito cause he needs to see and/or hear from the other Obito and Rin.

Edited by T XD, 03 July 2013 - 01:24 PM.

[sushi.]

I'm really interested in seeing how the parallel between Sakura and Rin would be brought up. I dont know what kishi plans to do with this and how he wants to put it in the manga. At this point it is blatantly obvious that he will bring it up but what will cause that? You guys have any ideas?

It can be Naruto's feelings for Sakura, or if she says something that reminds Obito of Rin. If she tells Naruto she's watching over him..BOOM

 

The parallells are very simple, one similar trait between two characters and they're linked. If Kishi wants them to.

[ramenanmitsu]

I'm really interested in seeing how the parallel between Sakura and Rin would be brought up. I dont know what kishi plans to do with this and how he wants to put it in the manga. At this point it is blatantly obvious that he will bring it up but what will cause that? You guys have any ideas?

I imagine two ways. 

1.) Obito sees Sakura and one of her expressions overlaps that of Rin.

2.) Obito sees Naruto and Sakura interact with each other and it reminds him of how he used to interact/how he wanted to interact with Rin. 

 

Chances are small, but Sakura's existence itself may be the key to Obito's redemption.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 03 July 2013 - 01:31 PM.

[arian_rad]

It can be Naruto's feelings for Sakura, or if she says something that reminds Obito of Rin. If she tells Naruto she's watching over him..BOOM
 
The parallells are very simple, one similar trait between two characters and they're linked. If Kishi wants them to.

Since the two similar quotes between minato and sai happend where they realized naruto and obito's feelings, I could see a similar dialogue also happening between naruto and Sakura to make this happen. It would make sense based on what kishi is doing to show this parallel.