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#81 Weltall

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:17 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Feb 20 2013, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So Hashirama is a Naruto with talent and Madara is a idiot Sasuke? Sounds a strange parallel to me huh.gif

Where is it implied that Madara is an idiot ?
Parallel doesn't mean carbon copy, Hashirama while sharing some Naruto's traits is obviously not a loser like Naruto the dude has been sitting alone on the top of the shinobi world, hyped to death by everyone and mostly by Madara himself. I don't know the exact details about their relationship but their dynamic is not the exact same as Naruto and Sasuke, in fact the one chasing after the other in that case is Madara and not the other way around or at least that's what it's been hinted since now but anyway
we will get answers in the upcoming chapters right now nothing is set in stone.
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Oh! I see. I guess I misunderstood your wording. Sorry about that, and thanks for the credit. biggrin.gif

No prob, your posts are always a joy to read.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:18 PM

I actually want to see more of susano karama vs shiva. Two gods that rip the landscape apart would be epic....... headscratch.gif Come to think of it, Madara has the juubi on top of senju dna and perfect susano. mellow.gif juubi plus shiva and perfect susano omfg.gif by the time the war is over, half the world will be gone!!!!

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:21 PM

QUOTE (Turson @ Feb 20 2013, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not necessarily. Naruto can get other half of Kuramas chakra, which would make him twice as powerful as he is now. If he combined SM with BM it would intesify that power even further, it should be enough to lift him up to Hashiramas level. Sasuke... well, Rinnegan is the only option.


Pretty much this. We've seen how far Senjutsu can augment someone's abilities to utter ridiculous levels (looking at you, Hashirama!!). Imagine how SM would augment Kurama's powers. And oh, did I forget that Kurama's other chakra half will possibly return?? So yup, combine all of that above and you have Naruto at Hashi's level.

For Sasuke, I'm betting we'll see a fusion of Susanoo and the Juubi, just like Susanoo Kurama in this chapter.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:45 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Feb 20 2013, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh yeah...isn't it the picture where Sakura, Naruto and Sasuke are leaning against the wall and their clan symbols are above them? I think that her clan symbol is dot-within-a-circle there.

Wow, I completely forgot about that, but you're right!

I always wondered why her symbol was different there than it was on her clothes. Who knows, maybe the symbol on Hashirama does have something to do with Sakura. (Maybe Sakura is part Senju? hMmMm tongue.gif or something to do with slug sage mode, of course) I would love that, but I won't get my hopes up! laugh.gif

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#85 T XD

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:47 PM

Nice chapter, and we're beginning to see another parallel of Naruto and Sasuke. Plus, most probably, Mito is another Sakura too.

I'm interested in seeing more of Hashirama's and Madara's detailed story when they were young. I think that they came to be equals in power with time, and Madara's brother's eyes helped him in that. I hope Mito is included in the next chapter, though, I don't think so yet. I think she'll appear later.

About the symbol on Hashirama's forehead, it might be tied with Sakura. Still, it's not exactly something to depend on too much. If Sakura did get a power up, well, here's our answer, and maybe we'll know more of it if she did get one.

By the way, Hashirama and Madara are really the same as Naruto and Sasuke from their conversation in the battle, and their past will give us more of that.

Edited by T XD, 20 February 2013 - 03:50 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:59 PM

Another chapter showing how weak the current gen is compared to the last gen and we now also know that Naruto and co might have to battle not only the complete Juubi but also the Complete Juubi with the Sasunoo armour, so they really have no chance of winning.

Can't say i'm that excited with the content of this chapter, it alteast showed how much of a beast Hashirama was, and had Sage mode as well, which just so happened to look like the Haruna's clan symbol, though I won't read too much into that because if there was some awesome power of Senju within Sakura, Kishi would have given Sakura a bigger role this past few years, if he added this to her arsenal now it would look like something he just tacked on and wouldn't make sense.

Another rivals becoming friends then becoming enemies story....seriously Kishi has over done this to death, only time we haven't seen it was with Team Ame, (and that was probably because Yahiko died before it could happen) we have Naruto/Sasuke, Hiruzen/Danzo, Jiraiya/Orichimaru, Kakashi/Obito. and now Hashirama/Madara, I bet the Second Hokage and Madara's younger brothers were probably also rivals and it was the Senju had something to do with Madara's brothers death.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:17 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Feb 20 2013, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, looks like we will have a flashback within a flashback. That said I find this chapter pretty nice. It certainly shows us possibly the highest level of a shinobi, so I find it pretty interesting. I like how more of mythology stuff is used in here. It seems their bonds was legit, but sadly, Madara's ambition was too much. It seems like he was annoyed that he mentioned about brother. It's definitely a parallel with a different outcome and reason; it's their bond and fate that will be repeated within new people.

Not much to say, but pretty fun to read and see. One last thing to say is that people in here has been bringing up these theory about Sakura's possible developments. While I haven't read one, it could be interesting theory; however, I will keep my expectation low in order to prevent my hype. I got to say though, it does feel rather convenience that we getting more of this before Sakura's shining moment, let alone this "Sakura's year" part hasn't happened yet.

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#88 FullmetalNinja25

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:18 PM

Great not only are we stuck in a Flashback for Kami knows how many Chapters but now we've got a Flashback within a Flashback! That isn't done for a reason! It's piss poor storytelling!

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Feb 20 2013, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Second highest.

Remember that Rikudo solos Juubi. Now that's insane strong. laugh.gif

Oh yeah, that's right. Lol. Good point. Still, it's definitely one of the highest peak of the manga.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE (Edward Uzumaki @ Feb 20 2013, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Great not only are we stuck in a Flashback for Kami knows how many Chapters but now we've got a Flashback within a Flashback! That isn't done for a reason! It's piss poor storytelling!

2, i'm more pissed off with the fact that the whole fight of Naruto vs Obito got screwed up with infinite interruptions, it's fight, talk, change scene, flashbacks, fight,talk, flashbacks,fight,talk,change scene,flashbacks.

Moreover is Naruto's high speed, it's shown that he's faster than the yondaime but he does not use this ability, so with the speed he should theoretically already have raped both obito and madara using sand as a lubricant.
This is where i dont get it why show that he surpassed the yondaime on speed when he actually does not take advantage of it, in other words he didnt even needed to have Kakashi's Kamui to help him, he could just counter-attack with the highspeed.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 February 2013 - 04:27 PM.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:32 PM

A flashback within a flashback XD kishi lol

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:43 PM

Usually when someone perform sage mode, they only get the eye mark. But hashirama get a forehead mark
Is it just coincidence?


#93 六道仙人

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE (rocci @ Feb 20 2013, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Usually when someone perform sage mode, they only get the eye mark. But hashirama get a forehead mark
Is it just coincidence?


he gets eye marks too along the forehead mark.

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#94 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:47 PM

QUOTE (rocci @ Feb 20 2013, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Usually when someone perform sage mode, they only get the eye mark. But hashirama get a forehead mark
Is it just coincidence?

I think his sage form was imperfect, Fukasaku said when someome reachs the perfect form there are no marks when it uses, the less the marks are the most perfect the form is.
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#95 T XD

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:48 PM

Something I noticed that Kishi has not only some kind of parallel fetish, but there's also some kind of flashback fetish XD

Flashback within a flashback... That's rare XD

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:51 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Feb 20 2013, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think his sage form was imperfect, Fukasaku said when someome reachs the perfect form there are no marks when it uses, the less the marks are the most perfect the form is.

I think you're wrong... An imperfect sage mode is when the more you resemblese a toad, the less your sage mode is imperfect...

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Fukasaku said that the eye mark represent that you've reached the perfect sage mode.

Sage mode's Jiraiya wasn't perfect, for this reason we was a lot toadish...

Edited by 六道仙人, 20 February 2013 - 04:51 PM.

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#97 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:52 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Feb 20 2013, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Something I noticed that Kishi has not only some kind of parallel fetish, but there's also some kind of flashback fetish XD

Flashback within a flashback... That's rare XD

Maybe we will get flashback within a flashback within a flashback.

#98 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:53 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Feb 20 2013, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you're wrong... An imperfect sage mode is when the more you resemblese a toad, the less your sage mode is imperfect...

http://www.mangastre...418-page-5.html

Fukasaku said that the eye mark represent that you've reached the perfect sage mode.

Sage mode's Jiraiya wasn't perfect, for this reason we was a lot toadish...

The thing is Jiraiya also had the eye marks but he had other features like some other maks on his face.


Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 February 2013 - 04:53 PM.

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#99 六道仙人

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:55 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Feb 20 2013, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing is Jiraiya also had the eye marks but he had other features like some other maks on his face.



in fact the sage mode of Jiraiya wasn't perfect, that's why he looked more a toad... While Naruto has only eye mark, as stated by Fukasaku, he becomed a real sage.

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#100 T XD

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE (rocci @ Feb 20 2013, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Usually when someone perform sage mode, they only get the eye mark. But hashirama get a forehead mark
Is it just coincidence?

I think that's simply the way his sage mode make out the marks on his forehead, and his eyes.

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Feb 20 2013, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe we will get flashback within a flashback within a flashback.

With Kishi, I think that's very possible XD




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